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Yep. Blizzard HATE US. Who would've thought? Sad thing is, the BRAINDEAD WHALES will CONTINUE to shell out their money to fund them and keep them relevant.
@@ozzcoremidmx8287 I am convinced the only reason people enjoy DIV is because it is literally diablo 3.1. There wasn't any thought or decision making that went into it. They actually love Diablo 3, not 4.
i know right cause if i really want to play their game i just pirate it and even then ive probably not play it because there are a lot of actually really good endie games out there.
That's why I had no hope for a Diablo 4, YongYea was right after he exposed the shop. Cosmetics at first, but just imagine they'll go into the Immortal... I mean Immoral way when the positive reviews are done.
@@gunchapred8933 which is fine. I just hope they do not start to cry when Blizzard changes the game for the worse to make more money. Some will quit, others will bitch and enough will buy to keep it afloat. The best thing for people to do is not Boycott. Just spend your money elsewhere. Move on and pop your head back in to laugh at the trainwreck like I do.
@@arrowghost When a company is this money hungry, it eventually affects the quality of the game, not just the pricing. They will find a way to give you less game for more money because people will buy it. Boycotting probably won't work, but you can save yourself some heartbreak by just giving up on Blizzard
@@BobOrKlaus If the scale down was even to a dedicated group of heroes with the expansive skill trees (think Borderlands) I’d be fine with that IF we got good mission variety, maybe even Raid content. But the audacity to do all this and for them to pretend like they still act like they stand by their company beliefs (“Lead Responsibly“) is what ticks me off. To quote Jon Stewart: “If you don't stick to your values when they're being tested, they're not values: they're hobbies“.
@@BobOrKlaus Wait what? What if I want to play this a year from now? I will sit in queue for hours... It's not like the limited time events in OW 1, these are supposed to be playable forever.
In Europe I'm pretty sure these bundles with artificial prices - forcing you to buy more than you actually want - is illegal. They are supposed to offer each item in the bundle separately. Wouldn't be surprised if the EU looks into this since Activision is already on their radar for the merger. Would be awesome for them to get their ass handed to them for illegal bundling.
I reported the Overwatch 2 fake discount shop prices to VZBB in germany. They telled me via Email that they will investigate it. I hope sooner than later. Allready 6 months gone.
Not to mention the game was advertised as story missions were going to be the reason you 'bought' the game, which would count as false advertising ... if the game wasn't free to play... so they knew what they were doing when they screwed up on this. You can't get a return on a game you didn't buy...
It seems akin to price gouging to me, which is 100% illegal in Europe, Australia, I think Canada and also some states of US. Bethesda was accused of doing this with Fallout 76 and they had to stop bullshitting consumers on the price of the shit they sold in the shop.
@@PatzeShayminJeyawue Nah dude, I'm european too and trust me, if the EU is pissed enough at Activision, they'll do something about it. They sued Google, you think they can't impose restrictions to Activision?
The FTC needs to get involved in this already. They charge for something they don't deliver on, then they charge more for something that's just a scaled down version of what they initially promised.
Not gonna happen if it didn’t happen to Fortnite for Epic straight up deleting evidence that they would release the PvE for free but now its only purchasable on the side or through their sub fee.
@@guycd1 I think you underestimate how manipulative and predatory many marketing and monetization tactics can be. It is basically psychological manipulation. Many people are being tricked or led into doing things they otherwise wouldn't do.
Oh, this company has had a history of doing that continuously for some 10 years at this stage xD Especially when it comes to WoW betas, and then being told that: "Blizz -- This is not fun. Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? None of us thinks this is any fun." Blizz Dev: Lol, we know better! Artifact Power, more artifact power, Azerite items, stupid necks, stupid cloaks, and stupid bonus powers, and the expansion of the Bonus Powers - Shadowlands.. Where they were told about how literally everything felt not fun, felt like it was against the player.. The whole ripcord bollocks - "No no, we can't remove that, it'll break everything" - and once everyone has quit it was apparently possible to change it. They were told that from the very first parts of the beta. But no no, the 'F*ck you' attitude from whoever is in charge is real with that company. Now you just mix that f*ck you with massive Bobby greed.
Here's the other plot twist people may not be realizing yet: It's NOT permanent either. To even access Overwatch you need to connect to their servers. Unless they separate the Story Missions from the main game, the access to the missions are tied to servers they may shut down eventually, and thus, everybody losing access to what they paid for.
That's okay all your progress will save over to Overwatch 3 the Collectible Card Game. Overstone. Hearthwatch. There we go. Hearthwatch by 2026 remember this. No your heroes can't fight they have rap battles because fighting is violent and our ai told us that was bad so you pull hero cards and lyric cards and have to combine them with the best beat cards. Damn it I just came up with a fun idea plz bliz no steal.
@@DisconnectHack It's extra hillarious because I'm moving house and I found the disc case for the original Overwatch. I was holding it in the air and telling my poor old Mum "Hey! Check it out! I own a game that doesn't exist!"
That's all live service games. While I enjoy playing them, I do also acknowledge that they will not be playable 20 years from now the way my playstation 1 games are on my playstation.
The game is free You have played for over half a year for free so you should be able to pay 15$ If you can't pay 15$ i suggest changing a job and stop being a freeloader
Anyone else remember back in the day when $20 got you an entire expansion w/ skins as well as story content> And now $20 gets you a skin... wow... we're living in the worst timeline
I remember the times when 20$ got you a full AAA game that gave you dozens of hours of fun. You didn't need Internet connection to play it in singleplayer. There were no DLCs. We had expansions released on seperate CD/DVD discs for a smaller price but they had as much content as the base game. Every game was released very well tested, polished and completed. Patches were very rare. You got maybe 2 to 5 patches for a game over several years. The idea of paying for skins and other game content was considered ridiculous. Game developer studios put a lot of effort to make their games as best as possible at launch because those who weren't simply were put out of business. Those were the good days. Ever since then dumb consumers gradually allowed worse and worse things to happen.
@@pietroroberto6114 That's overexaggerating how nice things were back then. Even back on the ps1, new games were usually between $40-$50. Heck Mario 64 was sold for $60 and that was back in the 90s. We also did have plenty of awful games like the trend to rush out game-adaptations of big upcoming movies to cash in on the hype surrounding their release usually resulting in buggy and terrible games. There were plenty of classics that will stand the test of time in regards to video games, but there dozens if not hundreds of lazy and uninspired cash grabs that only didn't have microtransactions because the tech wasn't available yet.
@@toddclawson3619 Oh I'm talking about PC games. Console games were always more expensive. As for movie adaptations you are right but overall it was much, much, much better.
I think so little of Activision Blizzard at this point that I genuinely think this was their plan the whole time. Make big promises for the PVE mode that they never truly intended to deliver on, then gate it behind a paywall to fleece their custimers for cash.
This is what happens when a company's greed is forgiven time and time again by fans giving them the money to continue doing so. You have the power to decide with your wallet if you want to keep supporting this BS or not.
@@Jellygrass Pokemon mostly are great & well made tho. Even the latest installment which has the biggest bug f ups, actually still has good settings, gameplay & enjoyable storyline and characters.
@@Cosmoman78 But they have never reach the level of quality or innovation that reach GOTY material unlike Mario and Zelda franchise. They definitely have the manpower and resources to do so but they didn't. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, a very good example released with many bugs while TOTK barely. Shows what the company is prioritising.
@@guguy00 A broken clock is right twice a day and such... It has gone somewhat quite around EA, but dont forget that EA at its peak was the absolute king of scumlord hill. "Surprise" mechanics... "singleplayer games are dead", the bioware fiascos that where mass effect 3, andromeda and that godawfull live service game? Star wars battlefront 3s microtransaction blowout? The situation with Titanfall? Introducing micro transactions in singleplayer offline games? (Deadspace 3) The yearly cashgrab with casino mechanics that was their soccer games? The occasional good game in the mountain of shite EA churned out doesnt make EA a better company, it makes it a worse in my opinion because they clearly are capable of delivering good product, but more often then not decide to f*ck over their customers.
@@guguy00 Yeah thats fair. Its just that i trust EA as far as i can throw them, and i dont believe for a second that they could turn a leaf XD They are still the scummy anti consumer corporation as allways. But youre also right that blizzard at the moment simply takes the cake... bethesda, konami, EA, ubisoft... cant hold a candle to them at the moment.
@@riptors9777blizzard does the same thing, just look at diablo 4. It's a pretty fun game but it's always-online, there's a cash shop, it's taking a live service monetization model and it's likely going to get a lot worse with time.
It’s $15 for 3 missions… wow I thought it would at least be 10 missions with how long it has taken. They really took years just to release 3 missions and make them $15 this is insane 😭
Also these "story missions" are still group play, you just fight bots instead but you have other random players with you ruining the immersion of any story. GG Blizz.
You know what would have been better? Even without skill Trees, release a 20 - 30 hour campaign with unique maps and objectives and the whole nine for an upfront fee. Instead they charge 15 bucks every season for 3 archive missions that get boring in an hour. Keep on being you Blizz.
What gets me is that people would have paid $40-$60 for something like that. How many people do you think will not only pay $15 for three missions but do so _multiple_ _times?_ The economics of this don't make sense for the exact same reason the old "episodic releases" model didn't make sense.
I wouldn’t mind expensive skins, if there is a fair way to earn skins without money. This stupid 60 credits a week system, is the most unfair way to unlock skins and the battle pass giving you legacy credits is so scummy
Dealing with a corporate entity like Activision Blizzard is like dealing with a psychopath; you can't appeal to emotion, the spirit of gaming, or creative license. There's only the cold, calculating, overbearing, and insatiable desire to maximize profit at any and all opportunities. That is the psychopathy these companies embody when you interact with them.
The bizarre thing is that there's no way this works out for them in monetary terms. This has the same problems the old "episodic release" model did - instead of having a bunch of missions they can get people to pay $40+ for, they're drip-feeding to an audience that will inevitably shrink. After all, who would buy Episode 2 in a series as their first game in a series?
Don't say that! That would be an insult to the intelligence of iguanas! They're more likely to find a way to the moon before Blizzard stops messing up 😂
nah they have that board from the one episode of south park where the feds chop off a chickens head and make decisions bases on what the chicken lands on
@@gamerskater17Hey Bruh Don’t insult the Chickens even the dead ones they’re way more smarter & helpful than whatever ActiBlizz has left. ActiBlizz are more like Mosquitoes are biting & draining the blood out of good franchises & Employees
@@austinberry5696 Oh I’m not insulting the intelligence of an iguana. I’m just saying that the combined IQ of the iguanas is the amount that Blizzard’s CEO has.
We are not baffled. Nor are we angry. We aren't even disappointed. We have come to accept that Blizzard is a trash company filled with trash employees. As such, we are just done with them
Doubt that. If fans were gonna change they already would have. It’s the same reason we don’t have Elder Scrolls 6 or GTA6. They keep reselling the same product just slightly changed, and people keep buying it. Why spend money developing a whole game, when you can just keep reselling the same thing?
@@italianspiderman5012 You know what I did since Day 1 of Overwatch 2? I downloaded it, saw it was just Overwatch 1 recycled, played a few matches and modes, closed the game and deleted it. Imagine if EVERY player did what I did, do you think Blizzard would have deleted pve mode? Paywall stuff? Hell no, they would be begging for us to come back but no... people are too much of a dumbass.
Exactly, things like this happened because people still buy it. I kinda believe this will sell well and Blizzard will keep doing this again and again, or doing even worse than this. Just stay away from the game at this point.
I think we can all blame the Diablo Immortal Whales for how brazen ActiBlizz has become. Why would the executives make any good changes to how they run things when there are idiots more than happy to pay for overpriced unnecessary garbage.
"At least it can't possibly get any worse." *Narrator:* But it in fact could, and it did, and it continued to do so until the sentiment was both bitterly reviled for its naive false hope, and looked upon wistfully for how much better things had once been.
@@sechran I swear I saw this "quote followed by a narrator saying things off screen" in a TV series but for the life of me, I can't remember the title...
Normally I’d argue about this, but Activision probably genuinely DOES think like that. Taking “Activision is the worst” as a challenge is genuinely the only explanation for this, because even someone motivated by greed would realize what a stupid fucking idea this is.
@@nerdock4747 Other companies have occasionally surpassed them, but overall Activision ends up being the worst over a longer period of time. EA was worse in the mid-2000s? Their hack CEO got the boot because earning the undying hatred of literally everyone is a bad business practice. Konami became the worst in the mid 2010s? They fall off the map because they stop making games, and Activision is the worst again. Activision has always been pushing for the title of “worst gaming company,” they just occasionally get surpassed by a company that dies out or backs down not long after.
The meaning of the bundle's content sounds pretty clear. The Invasion bundle gives access to the Invasion story missions, both during and after the Invasion season. In other words, having a given bundle at a specific moment only gives access to the missions included in it. Presumably, they are planning to release a succession of such seasons, each with their own pack of missions that will require buying the corresponding bundle to access. And I suppose that older missions won't be very much played once new ones are out, which means that the value of any of these bundle will crash towards nothing as new content gets released since only a few people will play them and they will be likely to be scattered across all of them. In order to play without very long queues, picking the latest missions will be by far the best choice. Overwatch2 is a free to play because it's hidden behind a thinly veiled subscription.
Basically what’s going to happen is the total value of all the story missions are going to exceed $100, which is what Blizzard probably wanted to charge for the game originally before making it free to play. So basically they are charging regular price for a game and still has the excuse for the expensive micro transaction of a free to play.
It's gotten to the point where it's not about giving the fans what they want, it's about giving shareholders what they want...which is more money! But they're so stupidly greedy they don't even realize giving fans what they want means easy money anyway
@@wolfstorm5394 They think only of the shareholders but forget that the shareholders aren't the ones buying the game/stuff in game. It's the fans, or what's left of them anyway. If you screw too much with the fans you can bet that one day they'll just give up because it won't be worth it. Sure, there will still be some that will continue to cling to the carcass that once was considered a good game, but if you lose too many players the game simply stops being profitable.
Indeed it is, especially with fake discounts attached. Like the shit they already tried with their garbage Halloween event, then went on to change it so you could buy stuff seperately without the discount (thus making it an actual discount). But now they are doing it again? Forcing a buyer to purchase one product to gain the right to purchase another. You can't buy PvE without also paying for some extra trash. Bruh!
It's a boon to have voices speaking out because Blizzard and other companies are doing a pretty damn good job at conditioning the newer generations to accept microtransactions as the new normal.
I remember playing Warcraft, Warcraft II, Starcraft, Diablo on my dad’s computer when I was a boy. I remember the launch of Wow and how excited I was to hop on with my friends that day. So very sad to see what Blizzard is becoming. Another cog in the soulless corporate machine, if you will. Hope to see the passion, and the respect for the players return one day.
I remember being in high school when I got Diablo 1, me and my friends went to translate the instruction booklet to learn the lore (We are mexico and only came in English) and we all found a way to play together. The same happened with World of Warcraft although only me and my gf wanted to pay the sub. Starcraft 1 was also a hit among my friends. I don't thing anyone will ever feel what we felt ever again. The videogame market is way too big and diverse now. And for kids, they will stuck with either Nintendo games or trneding shooters like Fornight. That feeling, that passion is lost forever.
I remember playing Warcraft 3 for the first time in my neighbor's PC and gettinf absolutely hooked, the two of us would skip class sometimes and even ditch other friends just to get home and play Warcraft
The $15 price for the story missions feel to me is another way Blizzard want to force "break the ice" on the free to play players. That why they added it inside a Bundle which also have other microtransactions products. For those who don't know "break the ice" in the free to play games is when a player make his first buy, because these company believes after the player make his first microtransaction buy it will be easy for this player to make a second and third .....going on.
Even god damn mobile games have free story modes, though you sometimes need to earn crystals or tickets or wait out a timer for them. At least there's a F2P option at all though.
This is what scared me and had me worried when they shutdown OW 1. Hands down if OW 1 was still up and running; people would be playing it more than OW 2. Everything is just a micro transaction and it's one of the reasons why I haven't really played much of OW 2.
I agree with this. I downloaded Overwatch 2 a bit ago hoping for the single player content. I tried playing the multi-player and it never grabbed my attention, thats why I was looking forward to the story content. The moment it was announced that it was canceled and that this was gonna be paid, immediately deleted it and am not interested anymore.
And that's fine. It's a F2P game, if the paid content isn't worth paying for to you, then don't pay it. If the F2P content isn't worth playing for you, then don't play it. But the outrage about 'greed' I really don't understand. F2P games tend to work this way. Does no one remember when TF2's "PVE" mode first came out and it cost like one dollar for a MVM ticket every single round you wanted to play? And that was pretty much a nothingburger on story or actual content, just a goofy lil game mode to farm RNG rewards.
@@theSatoIf you are justifying player and weapon skins costing over $15 for example then that's the problem right there: Accepting this greed as the new standard of video gaming. They shouldn't be charged this much at all. Regardless if the game is free or not. Just a sign of a game with no quality control whatsoever. Shouldn't have to put up with this at all. There's plenty of F2P games that have done far better than what is going on with Overwatch.
@theSato The game isn't free to play, I paid for both a PC and Playstation edition of this game only for them to make it free to play and then try to charge me for story content.
@@theSato However that isn't the original plan for PvE. They are going for a plan that gives you less content and it'll probably cost you more money. That is the greed. The PvE was originally supposed to be a single drop for x amount of money, now it is spread out and it will cost more and give out less content. If that isn't greed, well I don't know what else to say.
Yet theyll be perfectly fine. Reminds me of Diablo immortal. Everyone complaining yet I already knew.. it was gonna be financially successful because gamers lead the charge in whining yet keeping what they hate filled with cash. Idk to me.. I see them pull this crap and my immediate annoyance is to the gamers now. Everyone says Blizzard is trash yet I promise you would still spend money at their conventions
It’s happening in every industry. Corporations will churn out the shittiest products for the largest amount of money possible. We need to start treating wealth hoarding like we do any other addiction and shame it instead of treating the wealthy like Gods.
God I wish the original creators of Overwatch could have been at a different studio, so much love and craftmanship went into the original development of this game... It was a great, original and insta-hit IP, even people who didn't do FPS games played it... I loved the esport, I was in the fandom for years, and watched it die from up close. It's just one big sadge emoji We spent years waiting to see what they were building up, but now... all those people have left and the new guys are making up new lore, so now we'll never know what they were building up to...
I'm in awe at their persistent complete inability to read the room, their handling of OW2 story missions has big "Do you guys not have phones" energy. :')
Blizzard is really emphasizing on what modern gaming is all about. If you're looking for the perfect reason to completely abandon this industry, look no further, because things *will* only get worse from here on out. You'll just have to be sorry that you weren't born yet when gaming was at it's absolute peak & make peace with the fact that you'll be *PAYING* video games, not *PLAYING* video games.
What about Indie games? What about Nintendo? I understand being pessimistic about the Western gaming industry, but there are still great games to be found, even from major companies, and earning the goowill of the customers is a better practice in the long-term than blind greed. Look at the backlash! This is _already_ backfiring on Activision, and it’s only *just* been announced! A bunch of people left World of Wacraft during Shadowlands to play it’s competitors, not helped by their arrogant decision to deliberately release a patch on the same day as one of their biggest competitors.
@@AzureGreatheart Agreed, there are actually a ton of great games out, far more than I even have time to play. Abandoning AAA games if anything just frees up more time to spend on actually worthwhile entertainment.
i know its cute to have a pessimistic attitude but this is just bullshit, sifu, death stranding, indies, spider man, etc. the games only suck if you buy from notoriously terrible companies in order to complain
@@AzureGreatheartNintendo is hit-or-miss, but Indie games are truly where the fun remains strong and the respect is truly appreciated unlike most AAA publishers.
They only 2 explanations to me that they keep doing this shit is: 1: The morons who keep buying staff like this are more that the people who quit and they make decent money off of them or 2: The game itself its doom to fail and they try any method to milk money until its done, more like a hit or miss. Which ever one it is, its a shameful display.
Activision likes to put their head in the sand after another bad decision. Wait until the vocal minority disperse, then continue with the plan. Why bother making a super cool game mode customers pay for once when you can attempt to charge for a smaller experience every season. Activision's lack of respect for customers is truly shocking.
That's literally wrong tho. Once you buy the access to the missions, you have access to everything when they come out. It's not paid for season to season other than the BP
EA have spent the last few years genuinely trying to put out great single player games. Dead Space Remake was awesome, Jedi Fallen Order has zero mtx, Wild Hearts was a solid attempt, even NFS Unbound is a fun racing game. Blizzard has put out scummy rubbish non stop for years. People go out and buy Diablo 4 and become surprised that there's $30 skins in it.
That moment when EA is doing a better job. Think even recently EA moving swtor to another company, possibly with more resources and budget, so Bioware can concentrate on their two best IPs of DA and ME.
This one makes me so glad that I uninstalled because now it just feels even worse, the world of overwatch and the characters were so rich when created by the devs and it just hurts more and more as the higher ups keep reaching their hands down for only profit and not story or gameplay, only their corporate greed being the thing they wish to feed. It angers me and makes me wish the devs could do what they wanna in a new studio of their own.
I paid for OW1 and got my moneys worth out of it and then some. Slowly drifted away from it only coming back for a night of gaming when I needed to shoot something after a long day. OW2 was announced making my friends and I excited for the story content because it is what we wanted since the OW beta. Continued playing on and off since the announcement and into OW2. Since the announcement that PvE was being canceled not a single one of us has had any type of interest in playing. Now that they are asking us to pay for the 1.5-2 hour scraps of the PvE most of us have uninstalled the game all together. Everything they have done with OW2 could have been done by modifying OW1, even the piecemeal PvE they plan to sell.
Blizzard will keep doing this because there have been no negative financial repercussions. They don't give a damn about the furor, it's just free advertising.
This is why live service games should be illegal. Imagine buying a product that can be changed at any time! -features that were included can be removed,change or monetized! -Becomes dead if theres no internet. -You can get locked out of the product if you dont use it the way it was intended to be use. or if a moderator is in a bad mood. -The company can just abandon the product when ever they want and your investment it lost! -A product you have to keep investing money in indefinitely just to get the full experience.
I bowed out at launch. I can only boycott them once, unfortunately. Between the lack of significant new content and nonsense like requiring it be paired to a cellphone, it reeked of modern Triple AAA: an overhyped and under-delivered cash grab, and my rule for Triple AAA titles is don't buy it until 6 months after release, because by then we'll know the true state of the game. It has yet to steer me wrong.
I doubt that. For every person who doesn't spend money on OV out of care for the game, there is at least one whale who will spend 100$ just to buy levels in battlepass.
I'm not disappointed. I've come to expect this out of Blizzard ever since they stopped caring about their customers, shortly after Wrath of the Lich King. I stopped buying their games ages ago and I'm not about to do it again unless they stop lying and cheating the playerbase that's in an abusive relationship with them. They're greedy and out of touch.
Just when i thought I seen the bottom it turns out I just arrive at the top of the skyscraper. How much lower can they go before they go under? I going back to Warcraft 3 and Starcraft2.
Yeah, I never played either Overwatch game but thought that from the start, the idea was that Overwatch 2 multiplayer would be free to play but the PVE story campaigns (with progression trees and all) would be sold for a price.
@Chepakishui overwatch 2 is now worse than most mobile gacha games. Both are free to play but at least mobile gacha games don't have you pay for their main story chapters
This isn't the PvE that they promised. This is on par with archive missions or Junkerstein's Revenge that we were getting for free to keep us playing the game. That is why everyone who played OV expected this to be free. And it should be free to keep people playing this game and spend money on cosmetics.
Of course I expected it for free, these missions are only apparently 30 minutes each, there is no ability to play the missions by yourself either so the fact that we have to pay 15 dollars for that? It's a rip off.
That what i was expecting them to do and i was like "there is no way that they can do the situation even worse than this"....guess who was wrong...again. I quited OW after day 2 of OW "2", they screw the game for me and i choose to end it before i sink hours on OW "2" and leave the game with a bad taste of my mouth, i choose to live with the good memories i had with the game.
The whole reason they cancelled the PVE is because it didn't make enough money for them. This whole restructuring and packaging it into multiple transactions every season is their way of trying to make it as lucrative as skins rather then just making a enjoyable experience.
@@illuminous7937 Exactly, it wasn't going to lead to congruent user spending so it got chopped up and will now be sold in pieces. Anyone who buys this shit is a rube beyond help.
Its funny seeing Overwatch creators complaining about the end of PVE and calling out Blizzard, only to stick with the game and be "excited" to play the story missions anyway, while complaining about how bad it is. Funny and utterly pathetic.
funny thing about the watchpoint pack, they basically released a new one every season. So far there has been 5 watchpoint packs, I believe. I anticipate a greedy move from them. To me it was expected that the story missions would be locked behind the battle pass. But them charging for them seperatly caught so off gaurd. Its such a unattractive solution and its also insane levels of greed especially after all they have done
I honestly don't know how most people are able to withstand the salty players. One of the most negative social experiences in games. There are pretty good games coming out now, people don't have to deal with this
dude I quit 2 weeks into the launch of OW2 after playing everyday since literally the open beta back in 2016 and I'm really glad I did. This game went from being one of best games of all time to legit shittier than a mtx/ad ridden mobile game. This game (if you can even call it that) just keeps getting worse by the day and I don't know how people stick around and still play. Addiction is fucking real dude
I was scammed out of $40 by the deceptive battle pass pre-order thinking I'd get the campaign when it came out too. But not only will I not get the story, despite spending the first games launch retail price on it, I'm now expected by Blizzard to shell out even more money? I don't know how they're still in business. They should have been shut down after the massive investigation of harassment cases
Think of the people that spend money on the game and didn’t know it was going to be shut down and then made free. All they got was a few heroes and that’s pretty much it.
they're still in business because gamers are stupid and spend their money on these greedy companies. you want change stop wasting your money on blizzard, its that simple.
Overwatch 2 is worse than mobile gacha games now. Both are free to play but at least the mobile gacha games don't lock the main story out with a pay wall
This is the final straw for me. I’ve still been playing Overwatch this whole time, despite Blizzard’s many, MANY terrible decisions, but this is what finally convinced me to uninstall.
They knew exactly what they were doing from day 1. I honestly don't think they intended to add a fully fleshed out story mode in the first place. They just used that to stifle the backlash they would get for even making a new game. They wanted to convert Overwatch to a "mobile" model, and just changing OW1 would have upset people even more. So they HAD to release a second one, and they knew people would be pissed, and just go back to 1, which is why they basically deleted the game. This is worse than battlefront 2... Their plan worked, somewhat. When 2 launched, and I didn't have access to 1 anymore, I didn't play it, but I wasn't that mad because I knew I could play PvE content when it came out. NOW? I won't touch this game.
I'm baffled how no one saw this coming. Even with my low attention span and lack of pattern recognition I totally expected them to charge some dumb amount for the "PVE" part of the game.
Yeah, if you look at the grammar structure of the sentence, that's $15 for just those 3 missions, and it's just saying that you won't lose access to those 3 missions after the season ends. So yeah, $15 for just the 3 missions. If they follow other games seasonal models, that's $15 4x per year for 3 missions each season that you can finish comfortable in a single evening each.
When they announced the removal of the lootboxes, I was almost the only one skeptic. My point was that Blizzard wouldn't just give up the money provided by the lootboxes, and the only reason they could have to remove them was if they had a system much worse than that. People thought i was just stupid. Come on. How much time Blizzard have to fool you until you finally understand ?!
Far from the only one. As soon as "no lootboxes" were mentioned, the collective thought process was "Oh fuck, they've figured out something WORSE than lootboxes"...and here we are. Anyone who thought they would drop their only stream of revenue in a game they turned free-to-play just has not been paying attention to the gaming industry for the past decade.
Soon as I saw that lootboxes were being removed I knew I would be uninstalling the game soon. There's no way they would remove something like that without a "better" (better for blizzard) system to make money.. I ended up uninstalling after I played OW2 and realized teh whole experience was a downgrade from the UI to gameplay. Sure some things I liked but the vast majority I didn't.
I actually liked the loot box system in Overwatch 1. When an event came out with new cosmetics, a casual player like me could play for a few hours with friends and eventually get the skins/highlight intros/etc. that I wanted without paying.
@@guycd1 mate the whole game is fokin bullshit since the start of it. And there is people still this day that climb up Blizzards ass every fokin time and it´s just grrraaah. It´s a pointless fight in the end. The microtransaction and shady practices have won.
I was one of those people that didn't really like OW2 as an FPS but the prospect of the PVE stuff intrigued me and I was definitely considering picking it up if that stuff materialized. Lucklily Blizzard already ruined my faith in them a few years ago so I didn't just spend money on OW2 at launch lol.
That’s actually exactly right. They said all the way back in 2019 that the PvE would be paywalled, people who weren’t paying attention this whole time are only just now learning about this when they’ve been up front about the cost this whole time
The whole reason they cancelled the PVE is because it didn't make enough money for them. This whole restructuring and packaging it into multiple transactions every season is their way of trying to make it as lucrative as skins rather then just making a enjoyable experience.
It's not that they didn't work on PvE content is just that they needed it to work alongside their current monetization scheme for this excuse of a sequel. I feel bad for all those who bought the Watchpoint package thinking they would get some PvE benefits from it, dang...
No game, Overwatch included, is worth all the blatant disrespect from this company. When will the players show any sign of self respect and just delete it?
The problem is not charging money for the PVE. I was expecting to pay a fixed price for the whole experience back when they announced OW2 goes free to play. The problem is if you don't purchase the "3 missions set" before the season's end, you loose the opportunity to have access to it. It's written in white and black "if you pay, you have permanent access", meaning those who don't pay in time can't even pay for it in the future. This IS the problem here for me. You can't force people to spent money, this is FOMO abuse!
I never thought PvE would be free but to ask for $15 over several battle pass seasons is scummy because 5 seasons and its already over $60 a full price game. But I just know the “but but its F2P they (devs) have to make money” people are only seeing FREE TO PLAY GAME and can’t see that its scummy none the less.
F2P has always been a slippery slope, it was fine when they did kickstarters and fundraiser after releasing the game, for people who liked the game and wanted to support them for making and adding more content, or helping support thier development for thier next entry or project. I think the F2P model went wrong after they started to pay wall exclusive game content in the game for the game, regardless of if it ranged from cosmetics to entire parts of the game.
Let us not forget that we never asked for this. I payed for the original OW, had no problem with paying for it because it was at a fair price and seemed to be worth the money. Blizzard is the one who decided to make it free to play, only to start using this as a poor excuse to make it a microtransaction filled hellhole that isn't worth a fifth of what I paid for OW 1.
@@spencerwilliams7385 Yea, i was not a fan of locking heroes behind a paywall. So i never paid and indulged them in that bullshit. Now i have the game uninstalled and happy to not be returning. I was a long time fan and played 1 for years and they have done an awesome job at alienating the fan base. I just wanted to call out these F2P bootlickers who think everything a company does with charges is okay since its free to play. Just got into a debate with someone talking about marvel snap because its F2P and they made a $30 card variant bundle and the card was supposed to be in a lower bracket (series 3 cards) which means people would have an easier time getting it because they give you one series 3 card free a season. Instead they kept the card as a series 4. Meaning its more expensive with in game tokens. But had the audacity to drop a bundle for $30 USD. Guy i was arguing with was like well you can get it with in game tokens. Thats all these people know how to recite and nothing more. Yes, the card can be free but that doesn’t make what they did less scummy. Same applies here because I know OW nut huggers will be defending this all day because its F2P. Sorry for the tangent
@@deusex2005 TBH if they had made the story mode they promised i would have had no problem paying $40-60 for it but now I hope the game fails. I played OW1 for years and i know have the game uninstalled. I will not be returning because this is not the game i loved several years ago.
@@478Johnnyboy Yep, the MT in F2P games is outrageous now, and it's mainly due to mouth breathing consumers that keep eating this shit up and defending it, or the whales that come in and just dumb thier banks
Never. I was seeing a different discussion and someone talked about a class action suit, someone posted a site that resumed blizzard's ToS and turns out we renounce to our right to do that when we accept it.
@@Jofe000 thats not really a problem. You don’t get to sneakily have someone sign a document that they don’t entirely understand and claim it gives you permission to break the law. Simply arguing that the clause wasn’t made abundantly clear when agreeing to the tos is enough to get it tossed. Companies try to do stuff like that all the time and it just gets thrown out.
I get it that people who didn't play overwatch are ok with overwatch "2" because they didn't know anything better. But it's so hard to be the OG overwatch player who got the owned game stolen from account by the company who made it, and replaced with this stinker cash grab update by force. There are parallels between overwatch "2" and abusive relationship, where activision blizzard keep being disgusting pieces of human filth and some original players still come back to them and their game to play, saying "it was so good long time ago". I'm never purchasing anything blizzard and anything activision again. Good thing that I never was attached to any of activision IPs and never was attached to any of blizzard games aside rock'n'roll racing, lost vikings 2, diablo 2 and overwatch. It feels awkward to tell this obvious thing, but to all players - we are the real power. Hard to organize and get together, but we are the only thing that brings money to the greedy corpo rats who ruined our favourite games, fictional characters, stories and worlds for the sake of profit. If we don't pay and refuse to play, they will go bankrupt. It will be better if they go bankrupt than if they continue desecrating corpses of great old games. I refuse to play, I refuse to pay, and I refuse to keep their live service cash grabs on my PC and consoles.
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I'm actually happy hearing news like this. I makes it really easy to resist the urge to buy Diablo 4. I was worried I'd cave at some point but nothing so far.
I have a theory that the reason why you have to pay for these missions, is because micro transaction sales for Overwatch 2 have been so low, that it can not survive as a free to play entity and needed some way to bring in more cash to keep it afloat.
If only Blizzard's competence in handling the Overwatch IP could match their utter audacity to charge money for story missions in a so called free-to-play game infested with overpriced microtransactions and battle pass monetization.
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But is this surprising? It’s Blizzard
@@BOKCGrizzlyWarlord its surprising how much low they can dig themselves.
PAY-TO-PLAY
Yep. Blizzard HATE US. Who would've thought?
Sad thing is, the BRAINDEAD WHALES will CONTINUE to shell out their money to fund them and keep them relevant.
Any person who still has any faith in ActiBliz is so deep in denial that not even therapy can fix them
Tell that to the DIV players right now, many seem to have forgotten who developed the game
Tell that to the WoW Andy's right now.
It's almost like Stockholm syndrome levels of cope and it's pretty depressing
@@ozzcoremidmx8287 I am convinced the only reason people enjoy DIV is because it is literally diablo 3.1. There wasn't any thought or decision making that went into it. They actually love Diablo 3, not 4.
Agreed, is anyone who has common sense surprised that they would do something like this. I'm sure as nor surprised
Damn bro they really know how to impress us when it comes to being disappointing.
Seriously. It’s kind of astonishing in a sad way.
If you have any kind of remotely positive expectation from a company like this you kinda deserve it
If you're disappointed in Activision/blizzard, you have misplaced faith
I'm not even impressed at this point.
"Our expectations were low, but holy fuck" meme
The real baffling thing is that people are still surprised by Blizzard's greed, it's like being surprised by Bethesda's bugs
And they STILL buy these games! That's 100% on them at this point.
It's like being baffled by Bethesda's greed too 🙃
*shocked Pikachu face*
i know right cause if i really want to play their game i just pirate it and even then ive probably not play it because there are a lot of actually really good endie games out there.
@@arthurqueiroz5821*Sells skyrim again*
If people are still hanging on and hoping Blizzard will do better next time, they've got a problem. This company deserves nothing but contempt
That's why I had no hope for a Diablo 4, YongYea was right after he exposed the shop. Cosmetics at first, but just imagine they'll go into the Immortal... I mean Immoral way when the positive reviews are done.
Likely, those people are the ones who want to tune out the bad news and keep playing because they “Jus wanna play their game.”
Activision Blizzard fans are practically a cult
@@gunchapred8933 which is fine. I just hope they do not start to cry when Blizzard changes the game for the worse to make more money.
Some will quit, others will bitch and enough will buy to keep it afloat. The best thing for people to do is not Boycott. Just spend your money elsewhere. Move on and pop your head back in to laugh at the trainwreck like I do.
@@arrowghost When a company is this money hungry, it eventually affects the quality of the game, not just the pricing. They will find a way to give you less game for more money because people will buy it. Boycotting probably won't work, but you can save yourself some heartbreak by just giving up on Blizzard
Blizzard charging $15 after announcing such a drastic scaling down is wild. But not allowing host sharing for free gamers is truly insane.
And you cant even play alone/with bots...
@@BobOrKlaus If the scale down was even to a dedicated group of heroes with the expansive skill trees (think Borderlands) I’d be fine with that IF we got good mission variety, maybe even Raid content.
But the audacity to do all this and for them to pretend like they still act like they stand by their company beliefs (“Lead Responsibly“) is what ticks me off. To quote Jon Stewart: “If you don't stick to your values when they're being tested, they're not values: they're hobbies“.
@@paradoxinraindrops141 yeah, and they were like "nah lets scrap it all anyways"
@@BobOrKlaus Wait what? What if I want to play this a year from now? I will sit in queue for hours... It's not like the limited time events in OW 1, these are supposed to be playable forever.
@@richardgries4098 yep, its a big problem not many ppl talk about
In Europe I'm pretty sure these bundles with artificial prices - forcing you to buy more than you actually want - is illegal. They are supposed to offer each item in the bundle separately. Wouldn't be surprised if the EU looks into this since Activision is already on their radar for the merger. Would be awesome for them to get their ass handed to them for illegal bundling.
I reported the Overwatch 2 fake discount shop prices to VZBB in germany. They telled me via Email that they will investigate it. I hope sooner than later. Allready 6 months gone.
Not to mention the game was advertised as story missions were going to be the reason you 'bought' the game, which would count as false advertising ... if the game wasn't free to play... so they knew what they were doing when they screwed up on this. You can't get a return on a game you didn't buy...
It seems akin to price gouging to me, which is 100% illegal in Europe, Australia, I think Canada and also some states of US.
Bethesda was accused of doing this with Fallout 76 and they had to stop bullshitting consumers on the price of the shit they sold in the shop.
lol EU doesnt look into that
im born here and that was never something that was fought about, at least not to my knowledge, even if it is illegal
@@PatzeShayminJeyawue Nah dude, I'm european too and trust me, if the EU is pissed enough at Activision, they'll do something about it. They sued Google, you think they can't impose restrictions to Activision?
The FTC needs to get involved in this already. They charge for something they don't deliver on, then they charge more for something that's just a scaled down version of what they initially promised.
I mean, considering they're currently blocking the merger, they could point to this as one reason why they're blocking it.
And if people continue throwing money at them regardless who's actually at fault?
Not gonna happen if it didn’t happen to Fortnite for Epic straight up deleting evidence that they would release the PvE for free but now its only purchasable on the side or through their sub fee.
@@guycd1 I get what you’re _trying_ to say, but no. Activision is still at fault here, regardless of how stupid the consumers are.
@@guycd1 I think you underestimate how manipulative and predatory many marketing and monetization tactics can be. It is basically psychological manipulation. Many people are being tricked or led into doing things they otherwise wouldn't do.
Internet: "This is the worst decision the OW team has made!"
OW team: "The worse decision we made so far"
Bobby: As long as I will have another yacht, it's great!
"Pray I do not alter it further"
Its rare when you see a company so blatantly say "fuck you" to the fan base. Insane but not surprising.
That's what happens when the majority of the fan base says "fuck me daddy".
The capitalists need to be put in their place
@@mr.x2567 This right here
Oh, this company has had a history of doing that continuously for some 10 years at this stage xD
Especially when it comes to WoW betas, and then being told that: "Blizz -- This is not fun. Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? None of us thinks this is any fun."
Blizz Dev: Lol, we know better!
Artifact Power, more artifact power, Azerite items, stupid necks, stupid cloaks, and stupid bonus powers, and the expansion of the Bonus Powers - Shadowlands.. Where they were told about how literally everything felt not fun, felt like it was against the player.. The whole ripcord bollocks - "No no, we can't remove that, it'll break everything" - and once everyone has quit it was apparently possible to change it. They were told that from the very first parts of the beta. But no no, the 'F*ck you' attitude from whoever is in charge is real with that company.
Now you just mix that f*ck you with massive Bobby greed.
The sad part is they love it 😭
Here's the other plot twist people may not be realizing yet:
It's NOT permanent either. To even access Overwatch you need to connect to their servers. Unless they separate the Story Missions from the main game, the access to the missions are tied to servers they may shut down eventually, and thus, everybody losing access to what they paid for.
Yup. It's a rental, and it only lasts as long as it makes money. Aka a trap.
That's okay all your progress will save over to Overwatch 3 the Collectible Card Game. Overstone. Hearthwatch. There we go. Hearthwatch by 2026 remember this. No your heroes can't fight they have rap battles because fighting is violent and our ai told us that was bad so you pull hero cards and lyric cards and have to combine them with the best beat cards. Damn it I just came up with a fun idea plz bliz no steal.
@@Mac_Omegaly What do you mean a rental? It is a scam, through and through. I want to go back playing OW1, but I can't.
@@DisconnectHack It's extra hillarious because I'm moving house and I found the disc case for the original Overwatch. I was holding it in the air and telling my poor old Mum "Hey! Check it out! I own a game that doesn't exist!"
That's all live service games. While I enjoy playing them, I do also acknowledge that they will not be playable 20 years from now the way my playstation 1 games are on my playstation.
Blizzard has a pristine talent when it comes to milking money and disappointing community
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@@kalui96okay corporate simp
You can only milk money from suckers and losers
The game is free You have played for over half a year for free so you should be able to pay 15$
If you can't pay 15$ i suggest changing a job and stop being a freeloader
@@patolek1990 lmaooooooooooooooooo
Anyone else remember back in the day when $20 got you an entire expansion w/ skins as well as story content> And now $20 gets you a skin... wow... we're living in the worst timeline
I remember the times when 20$ got you a full AAA game that gave you dozens of hours of fun. You didn't need Internet connection to play it in singleplayer. There were no DLCs. We had expansions released on seperate CD/DVD discs for a smaller price but they had as much content as the base game. Every game was released very well tested, polished and completed. Patches were very rare. You got maybe 2 to 5 patches for a game over several years.
The idea of paying for skins and other game content was considered ridiculous.
Game developer studios put a lot of effort to make their games as best as possible at launch because those who weren't simply were put out of business.
Those were the good days. Ever since then dumb consumers gradually allowed worse and worse things to happen.
Pepperidge Farm remembers
@@pietroroberto6114 That's overexaggerating how nice things were back then. Even back on the ps1, new games were usually between $40-$50. Heck Mario 64 was sold for $60 and that was back in the 90s. We also did have plenty of awful games like the trend to rush out game-adaptations of big upcoming movies to cash in on the hype surrounding their release usually resulting in buggy and terrible games. There were plenty of classics that will stand the test of time in regards to video games, but there dozens if not hundreds of lazy and uninspired cash grabs that only didn't have microtransactions because the tech wasn't available yet.
@@toddclawson3619 Oh I'm talking about PC games. Console games were always more expensive. As for movie adaptations you are right but overall it was much, much, much better.
@@pietroroberto6114PC games weren’t that cheap either
I think so little of Activision Blizzard at this point that I genuinely think this was their plan the whole time. Make big promises for the PVE mode that they never truly intended to deliver on, then gate it behind a paywall to fleece their custimers for cash.
Oh it was. Triple A is all about profit. Why would they give such content for free? Paying for PvE drives numbers, no?
There’s no way it wasn’t.
They had already internally cancelled the PvE mode BEFORE the launch of Overwatch 2. So yes, this was 100% their plan the entire time.
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from the very beginning, this was nothing more than a reskin of ow1, it was never intended to be any more, anything else was just puffing
This is what happens when a company's greed is forgiven time and time again by fans giving them the money to continue doing so. You have the power to decide with your wallet if you want to keep supporting this BS or not.
Can be said the same for Pokemon
@@Jellygrass Pokemon mostly are great & well made tho. Even the latest installment which has the biggest bug f ups, actually still has good settings, gameplay & enjoyable storyline and characters.
@@Cosmoman78"well made" have we played the same games?
@@Cosmoman78 story? what story? all story they had only badge hunting 1 area to new area with same recipe only different skin pokemon
@@Cosmoman78 But they have never reach the level of quality or innovation that reach GOTY material unlike Mario and Zelda franchise. They definitely have the manpower and resources to do so but they didn't. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, a very good example released with many bugs while TOTK barely. Shows what the company is prioritising.
Blizzard: From "its done when its done" to "the second comming of EA Games" in less then 10 years
At this point it's harsh to compare EA to ActiBlizz.
At least EA put out the occasional banger...
@@guguy00 A broken clock is right twice a day and such...
It has gone somewhat quite around EA, but dont forget that EA at its peak was the absolute king of scumlord hill.
"Surprise" mechanics... "singleplayer games are dead", the bioware fiascos that where mass effect 3, andromeda and that godawfull live service game? Star wars battlefront 3s microtransaction blowout? The situation with Titanfall? Introducing micro transactions in singleplayer offline games? (Deadspace 3) The yearly cashgrab with casino mechanics that was their soccer games?
The occasional good game in the mountain of shite EA churned out doesnt make EA a better company, it makes it a worse in my opinion because they clearly are capable of delivering good product, but more often then not decide to f*ck over their customers.
@@riptors9777 Oh no don't get me wrong EA is evil, just not as much as ActiBlizz at this point. Also I was trying to make a joke.
@@guguy00 Yeah thats fair. Its just that i trust EA as far as i can throw them, and i dont believe for a second that they could turn a leaf XD They are still the scummy anti consumer corporation as allways.
But youre also right that blizzard at the moment simply takes the cake... bethesda, konami, EA, ubisoft... cant hold a candle to them at the moment.
@@riptors9777blizzard does the same thing, just look at diablo 4. It's a pretty fun game but it's always-online, there's a cash shop, it's taking a live service monetization model and it's likely going to get a lot worse with time.
It’s $15 for 3 missions… wow I thought it would at least be 10 missions with how long it has taken. They really took years just to release 3 missions and make them $15 this is insane 😭
They are saving the other ones to charge more 15 x n times, I’m guessing.
@@dathuynh2243 exactly this, they are done basically. Now to milk the money out of consumer.
Gotta pay attorneys for several lawsuits I guess
Also these "story missions" are still group play, you just fight bots instead but you have other random players with you ruining the immersion of any story. GG Blizz.
@@evilcookie123As long as people keep buying, which they will, this will keep going
You know what would have been better? Even without skill Trees, release a 20 - 30 hour campaign with unique maps and objectives and the whole nine for an upfront fee. Instead they charge 15 bucks every season for 3 archive missions that get boring in an hour.
Keep on being you Blizz.
What gets me is that people would have paid $40-$60 for something like that. How many people do you think will not only pay $15 for three missions but do so _multiple_ _times?_ The economics of this don't make sense for the exact same reason the old "episodic releases" model didn't make sense.
Isn’t it weird that whenever Activision touches something, it seems to start doing the most anti-consumer shit
My biggest problem is that Skins are more expensive then the actual story missions. That's crazy to me
We are truly in the Hell timeline
Its because of dumb people with sub zero IQ's still buying skins.
Unfortunately, the skins are the big money maker. Of course they're gonna charge more for what actually sells 😔
Jesus i needed that spelled out to understand it
thanks mate now i am sad
I wouldn’t mind expensive skins, if there is a fair way to earn skins without money. This stupid 60 credits a week system, is the most unfair way to unlock skins and the battle pass giving you legacy credits is so scummy
*"We at blizzard have decided to, once again, shoot ourselves in the foot"*
"This time we have decided to use a double barrel shotgun"
@@flamingscar5263 Super Shotgun*
@flamingscar5263 *"buckshot is often preferred, but we'll stick with slugs for that extra precision and pow"*
“We at Blizzard have decided that no one can enjoy our games unless paying us large sums of money”
No, they're shooting their fans in the foot. ...The fans will smile and ask for one more. They have been trained well, you see.
There's a reason this is called the Invasion update, cause this is the most invasive monetization system they've released, and that's saying something
Dealing with a corporate entity like Activision Blizzard is like dealing with a psychopath; you can't appeal to emotion, the spirit of gaming, or creative license. There's only the cold, calculating, overbearing, and insatiable desire to maximize profit at any and all opportunities. That is the psychopathy these companies embody when you interact with them.
That’s true sadly, not even people matter, it’s not exclusive to gaming either and fu*k me it’s depressing.
that's offensive to psychopaths
That's capitalism in a nutshell, unfortunately.
The bizarre thing is that there's no way this works out for them in monetary terms. This has the same problems the old "episodic release" model did - instead of having a bunch of missions they can get people to pay $40+ for, they're drip-feeding to an audience that will inevitably shrink. After all, who would buy Episode 2 in a series as their first game in a series?
At this point I feel like all of Blizzards decisions aren’t made by any form of ‘chain of command’. But rather a bunch of iguanas in a trench coat.
Don't say that! That would be an insult to the intelligence of iguanas! They're more likely to find a way to the moon before Blizzard stops messing up 😂
nah they have that board from the one episode of south park where the feds chop off a chickens head and make decisions bases on what the chicken lands on
@@gamerskater17Hey Bruh Don’t insult the Chickens even the dead ones they’re way more smarter & helpful than whatever ActiBlizz has left. ActiBlizz are more like Mosquitoes are biting & draining the blood out of good franchises & Employees
Why iguanas? Is it that lizardmen conspiracy theory again?
@@austinberry5696 Oh I’m not insulting the intelligence of an iguana. I’m just saying that the combined IQ of the iguanas is the amount that Blizzard’s CEO has.
Did anyone actually expect Activision-Blizzard to not charge for this? They already charge for playable characters.
We are not baffled. Nor are we angry. We aren't even disappointed. We have come to accept that Blizzard is a trash company filled with trash employees. As such, we are just done with them
As gamers We shouldn't accept this. And legit should stop playing their games.
Yet the game is filled with players and yet they still get paid and away with this. The gamers are so stupid.
@@regular-userwe really are doomed for extinction.
Doubt that. If fans were gonna change they already would have. It’s the same reason we don’t have Elder Scrolls 6 or GTA6. They keep reselling the same product just slightly changed, and people keep buying it. Why spend money developing a whole game, when you can just keep reselling the same thing?
@@italianspiderman5012 You know what I did since Day 1 of Overwatch 2? I downloaded it, saw it was just Overwatch 1 recycled, played a few matches and modes, closed the game and deleted it.
Imagine if EVERY player did what I did, do you think Blizzard would have deleted pve mode? Paywall stuff? Hell no, they would be begging for us to come back but no... people are too much of a dumbass.
At this point I don't blame Blizzard....it's the fans who will pay for it no matter what.
i would bet my left leg that despite all the backlash, its still gonna sell.
A fool and their money are soon parted
Exactly, things like this happened because people still buy it. I kinda believe this will sell well and Blizzard will keep doing this again and again, or doing even worse than this. Just stay away from the game at this point.
"Who is more foolish? The fool, or the ones who follow the fool?"
This quote applies to Blizzard fanboys
I think we can all blame the Diablo Immortal Whales for how brazen ActiBlizz has become. Why would the executives make any good changes to how they run things when there are idiots more than happy to pay for overpriced unnecessary garbage.
I'm now officially convinced that Blizzard has a "Bad Ideas" department specifically dedicated to making terrible decisions for the company
Can’t wait to get the cinematic movie for free on TH-cam, looking forward to the person who posts it.
the real heroes in this disaster
*copyright strike incoming!*
Wooooo
@@WolfLykaiosSonic: No Copyright law in the universe can stop me
Never say how low a company can go. They will see that as a challenge and go much lower
"At least it can't possibly get any worse."
*Narrator:* But it in fact could, and it did, and it continued to do so until the sentiment was both bitterly reviled for its naive false hope, and looked upon wistfully for how much better things had once been.
@@sechran I swear I saw this "quote followed by a narrator saying things off screen" in a TV series but for the life of me, I can't remember the title...
Normally I’d argue about this, but Activision probably genuinely DOES think like that. Taking “Activision is the worst” as a challenge is genuinely the only explanation for this, because even someone motivated by greed would realize what a stupid fucking idea this is.
EA is actually 2nd in the race to the bottom, never thought I'd see the day.
@@nerdock4747 Other companies have occasionally surpassed them, but overall Activision ends up being the worst over a longer period of time. EA was worse in the mid-2000s? Their hack CEO got the boot because earning the undying hatred of literally everyone is a bad business practice. Konami became the worst in the mid 2010s? They fall off the map because they stop making games, and Activision is the worst again. Activision has always been pushing for the title of “worst gaming company,” they just occasionally get surpassed by a company that dies out or backs down not long after.
The meaning of the bundle's content sounds pretty clear.
The Invasion bundle gives access to the Invasion story missions, both during and after the Invasion season.
In other words, having a given bundle at a specific moment only gives access to the missions included in it.
Presumably, they are planning to release a succession of such seasons, each with their own pack of missions that will require buying the corresponding bundle to access.
And I suppose that older missions won't be very much played once new ones are out, which means that the value of any of these bundle will crash towards nothing as new content gets released since only a few people will play them and they will be likely to be scattered across all of them. In order to play without very long queues, picking the latest missions will be by far the best choice.
Overwatch2 is a free to play because it's hidden behind a thinly veiled subscription.
Basically what’s going to happen is the total value of all the story missions are going to exceed $100, which is what Blizzard probably wanted to charge for the game originally before making it free to play. So basically they are charging regular price for a game and still has the excuse for the expensive micro transaction of a free to play.
When you thought they couldn't go any lower, do any worse....they go beyond our expectations and show that it IS possible.
It's like " Our expectations for you are low but HOLY F**K !! "
"did we hit rock bottom?"
"no wait, i think we can install a basement here!"
It's gotten to the point where it's not about giving the fans what they want, it's about giving shareholders what they want...which is more money! But they're so stupidly greedy they don't even realize giving fans what they want means easy money anyway
@@wolfstorm5394 They think only of the shareholders but forget that the shareholders aren't the ones buying the game/stuff in game.
It's the fans, or what's left of them anyway.
If you screw too much with the fans you can bet that one day they'll just give up because it won't be worth it.
Sure, there will still be some that will continue to cling to the carcass that once was considered a good game, but if you lose too many players the game simply stops being profitable.
I believe that in some countries, it is illegal to sell a product only in a bundle. You must have the option to buy them separately.
Indeed it is, especially with fake discounts attached. Like the shit they already tried with their garbage Halloween event, then went on to change it so you could buy stuff seperately without the discount (thus making it an actual discount). But now they are doing it again? Forcing a buyer to purchase one product to gain the right to purchase another. You can't buy PvE without also paying for some extra trash. Bruh!
It's important to have knowledgeable well spoken people like you to stick up for and Inform the gaming community and especially the kids
I'm Yongyeah and I'm the Radio Voice Guy. I'm Yongyeah and let me tell you about this new movie.
Drak, you can't even type down the channel's name properly. Stop embarassing yourself.
It's a boon to have voices speaking out because Blizzard and other companies are doing a pretty damn good job at conditioning the newer generations to accept microtransactions as the new normal.
@@eon6274ea and valve already accomplished this back in the early 2010s
At this point it feels like they’re intentionally trying to kill overwatch
Very ironic given that Overwatch solely exists to compete with Valve.
@@TheNamelessScholarOfficial Wait....Valve?
@@TheNamelessScholarOfficial OW2 exists to compete with Valorant
@@TheNamelessScholarOfficial Bro if Valve releases HL3 or even TF3, OW will cease to exist other than the pr0n.
You would do well to realize that capitalism looking to extract as much profit from something always looks a whole lot like killing that thing.
I remember playing Warcraft, Warcraft II, Starcraft, Diablo on my dad’s computer when I was a boy. I remember the launch of Wow and how excited I was to hop on with my friends that day. So very sad to see what Blizzard is becoming. Another cog in the soulless corporate machine, if you will. Hope to see the passion, and the respect for the players return one day.
That ship my friend has sailed across the sea and fell down at edge of the world down into the endless abyss. 😔
I remember being in high school when I got Diablo 1, me and my friends went to translate the instruction booklet to learn the lore (We are mexico and only came in English) and we all found a way to play together. The same happened with World of Warcraft although only me and my gf wanted to pay the sub. Starcraft 1 was also a hit among my friends.
I don't thing anyone will ever feel what we felt ever again. The videogame market is way too big and diverse now. And for kids, they will stuck with either Nintendo games or trneding shooters like Fornight. That feeling, that passion is lost forever.
I remember playing Warcraft 3 for the first time in my neighbor's PC and gettinf absolutely hooked, the two of us would skip class sometimes and even ditch other friends just to get home and play Warcraft
Blizzard is sinking lol
No, once darkness makes its ways in, there's no way for redemption
The blizzard we known and loved is long gone, it's time to move on
Blizzard: every thing is 15$
Players: Oh cool so I get everything for just 15$?
Blizzard: no no no, every THING is 15$
The $15 price for the story missions feel to me is another way Blizzard want to force "break the ice" on the free to play players. That why they added it inside a Bundle which also have other microtransactions products.
For those who don't know "break the ice" in the free to play games is when a player make his first buy, because these company believes after the player make his first microtransaction buy it will be easy for this player to make a second and third .....going on.
Yeah they want you to keep gambling and get addicted.
It's a drug dealer mentality.
Even god damn mobile games have free story modes, though you sometimes need to earn crystals or tickets or wait out a timer for them. At least there's a F2P option at all though.
This is what scared me and had me worried when they shutdown OW 1. Hands down if OW 1 was still up and running; people would be playing it more than OW 2. Everything is just a micro transaction and it's one of the reasons why I haven't really played much of OW 2.
I agree with this. I downloaded Overwatch 2 a bit ago hoping for the single player content. I tried playing the multi-player and it never grabbed my attention, thats why I was looking forward to the story content. The moment it was announced that it was canceled and that this was gonna be paid, immediately deleted it and am not interested anymore.
And that's fine. It's a F2P game, if the paid content isn't worth paying for to you, then don't pay it. If the F2P content isn't worth playing for you, then don't play it.
But the outrage about 'greed' I really don't understand. F2P games tend to work this way. Does no one remember when TF2's "PVE" mode first came out and it cost like one dollar for a MVM ticket every single round you wanted to play? And that was pretty much a nothingburger on story or actual content, just a goofy lil game mode to farm RNG rewards.
@@theSatoIf you are justifying player and weapon skins costing over $15 for example then that's the problem right there: Accepting this greed as the new standard of video gaming.
They shouldn't be charged this much at all. Regardless if the game is free or not. Just a sign of a game with no quality control whatsoever.
Shouldn't have to put up with this at all. There's plenty of F2P games that have done far better than what is going on with Overwatch.
@theSato The game isn't free to play, I paid for both a PC and Playstation edition of this game only for them to make it free to play and then try to charge me for story content.
@@theSato However that isn't the original plan for PvE. They are going for a plan that gives you less content and it'll probably cost you more money. That is the greed. The PvE was originally supposed to be a single drop for x amount of money, now it is spread out and it will cost more and give out less content. If that isn't greed, well I don't know what else to say.
At this point people need to award this as the worst , they're amazing at doing opposite of what people want
let them cook for another month, it can still get worse slime.
Yet theyll be perfectly fine. Reminds me of Diablo immortal. Everyone complaining yet I already knew.. it was gonna be financially successful because gamers lead the charge in whining yet keeping what they hate filled with cash.
Idk to me.. I see them pull this crap and my immediate annoyance is to the gamers now. Everyone says Blizzard is trash yet I promise you would still spend money at their conventions
It’s crazy how we went from 2010s where every AAA company made a good game to now every AAA company makes utter trash.
It’s happening in every industry. Corporations will churn out the shittiest products for the largest amount of money possible. We need to start treating wealth hoarding like we do any other addiction and shame it instead of treating the wealthy like Gods.
AAA = High quality trash now 😂
@@KrygerWolf More expensive trash, at least.
@@PureRok yup 🤣
Not every game is utter trash nowadays so relax
This is a game world that I loved, with characters I cherished, and I wanted to see it expanded. Now it's just heartbreaking.
You can! With cold hard cash lol
The most expansion of the world we'll get is probably just porn animations with plot lol
God I wish the original creators of Overwatch could have been at a different studio, so much love and craftmanship went into the original development of this game... It was a great, original and insta-hit IP, even people who didn't do FPS games played it... I loved the esport, I was in the fandom for years, and watched it die from up close. It's just one big sadge emoji
We spent years waiting to see what they were building up, but now... all those people have left and the new guys are making up new lore, so now we'll never know what they were building up to...
@@GamerConnoisseurRei Of course! Good 15 bucks for a new yacht donation
@@Spike2276Futa widow 😂😂😂
Activision Blizzard care as much about players as they do the employees they've abused
And killed
They really do just keep consistently making the worst decision at every turn, it's kinda amazing.
I'm in awe at their persistent complete inability to read the room, their handling of OW2 story missions has big "Do you guys not have phones" energy. :')
Overwatch Immortal 😂
They'll still make ez millions
Do you guys not have money?
@@Spike2276why spend money on ow2 when you can go get a yummy borgor 😾
I'm in awe of the people still giving them money.
Blizzard is really emphasizing on what modern gaming is all about. If you're looking for the perfect reason to completely abandon this industry, look no further, because things *will* only get worse from here on out.
You'll just have to be sorry that you weren't born yet when gaming was at it's absolute peak & make peace with the fact that you'll be *PAYING* video games, not *PLAYING* video games.
I started gaming 1982 i really miss the old days...
What about Indie games? What about Nintendo? I understand being pessimistic about the Western gaming industry, but there are still great games to be found, even from major companies, and earning the goowill of the customers is a better practice in the long-term than blind greed. Look at the backlash! This is _already_ backfiring on Activision, and it’s only *just* been announced! A bunch of people left World of Wacraft during Shadowlands to play it’s competitors, not helped by their arrogant decision to deliberately release a patch on the same day as one of their biggest competitors.
@@AzureGreatheart Agreed, there are actually a ton of great games out, far more than I even have time to play. Abandoning AAA games if anything just frees up more time to spend on actually worthwhile entertainment.
i know its cute to have a pessimistic attitude but this is just bullshit, sifu, death stranding, indies, spider man, etc. the games only suck if you buy from notoriously terrible companies in order to complain
@@AzureGreatheartNintendo is hit-or-miss, but Indie games are truly where the fun remains strong and the respect is truly appreciated unlike most AAA publishers.
"Hope is dangerous when it comes to Overwatch 2."
-YongYea
My guy is speaking STRAIGHT FACTS. Keep reporting the truth man!
Every time I think Blizzard *can't possibly* mess up even worse than they alredy have, they surpass my expectations...
They would charge you for booting up the game every time if they could.
It's almost impressive if not outrageous
We expected nothing and they still found a way to disappoint us.
They only 2 explanations to me that they keep doing this shit is:
1: The morons who keep buying staff like this are more that the people who quit and they make decent money off of them
or
2: The game itself its doom to fail and they try any method to milk money until its done, more like a hit or miss.
Which ever one it is, its a shameful display.
Activision likes to put their head in the sand after another bad decision. Wait until the vocal minority disperse, then continue with the plan. Why bother making a super cool game mode customers pay for once when you can attempt to charge for a smaller experience every season. Activision's lack of respect for customers is truly shocking.
That's literally wrong tho. Once you buy the access to the missions, you have access to everything when they come out. It's not paid for season to season other than the BP
@@nathanbermudez2444proof?
Man, the sad part is not even EA would do something like this lol
EA have spent the last few years genuinely trying to put out great single player games. Dead Space Remake was awesome, Jedi Fallen Order has zero mtx, Wild Hearts was a solid attempt, even NFS Unbound is a fun racing game. Blizzard has put out scummy rubbish non stop for years. People go out and buy Diablo 4 and become surprised that there's $30 skins in it.
I think that at this point EA is questioning blizzard choices as well. Activison/Blizzard has definitely taken the crown of the worst game company.
That moment when EA is doing a better job. Think even recently EA moving swtor to another company, possibly with more resources and budget, so Bioware can concentrate on their two best IPs of DA and ME.
@@dtanobo the bar is so low already and some companies keep on digging.
Yes they would, are you dumb?
This one makes me so glad that I uninstalled because now it just feels even worse, the world of overwatch and the characters were so rich when created by the devs and it just hurts more and more as the higher ups keep reaching their hands down for only profit and not story or gameplay, only their corporate greed being the thing they wish to feed. It angers me and makes me wish the devs could do what they wanna in a new studio of their own.
I paid for OW1 and got my moneys worth out of it and then some. Slowly drifted away from it only coming back for a night of gaming when I needed to shoot something after a long day. OW2 was announced making my friends and I excited for the story content because it is what we wanted since the OW beta. Continued playing on and off since the announcement and into OW2. Since the announcement that PvE was being canceled not a single one of us has had any type of interest in playing. Now that they are asking us to pay for the 1.5-2 hour scraps of the PvE most of us have uninstalled the game all together. Everything they have done with OW2 could have been done by modifying OW1, even the piecemeal PvE they plan to sell.
A move this unapologetically out of touch and greedy is truly impressive.
Thank you as always for your detailed and well structured coverage, it's just crazy to me that people still engage with Blizzard and their products.
Blizzard will keep doing this because there have been no negative financial repercussions. They don't give a damn about the furor, it's just free advertising.
This is why live service games should be illegal.
Imagine buying a product that can be changed at any time!
-features that were included can be removed,change or monetized!
-Becomes dead if theres no internet.
-You can get locked out of the product if you dont use it the way it was intended to be use. or if a moderator is in a bad mood.
-The company can just abandon the product when ever they want and your investment it lost!
-A product you have to keep investing money in indefinitely just to get the full experience.
I hope….I HOPE the community lets this fail on arrival!
That’s what blizzard wants so they can go back to full work on new skins for the shop
I bowed out at launch. I can only boycott them once, unfortunately.
Between the lack of significant new content and nonsense like requiring it be paired to a cellphone, it reeked of modern Triple AAA: an overhyped and under-delivered cash grab, and my rule for Triple AAA titles is don't buy it until 6 months after release, because by then we'll know the true state of the game. It has yet to steer me wrong.
I doubt that. For every person who doesn't spend money on OV out of care for the game, there is at least one whale who will spend 100$ just to buy levels in battlepass.
@@pietroroberto6114 The whales won't stay for long if there aren't any krill to feed (their egos) on
Nope, they are mindless consumers that will buy anything.
I'm not disappointed. I've come to expect this out of Blizzard ever since they stopped caring about their customers, shortly after Wrath of the Lich King. I stopped buying their games ages ago and I'm not about to do it again unless they stop lying and cheating the playerbase that's in an abusive relationship with them. They're greedy and out of touch.
What hurts the most I think is we WOULD HAVE PAID for the story missions IF THEY FINISHED THE PVE SKILL TREE
"Why call it free 2 play if you have to pay after all?" - Because Blizz would charge you for breathing if they could.
it really feels like activision and blizzard are having an internal competition on who can make the worst the decision for their community
Just when i thought I seen the bottom it turns out I just arrive at the top of the skyscraper.
How much lower can they go before they go under?
I going back to Warcraft 3 and Starcraft2.
What amazes me is that people genuinely expected blizzard releasing PVE free of charge.
For reals haha every. Single. Thing. Will cost
Yeah, I never played either Overwatch game but thought that from the start, the idea was that Overwatch 2 multiplayer would be free to play but the PVE story campaigns (with progression trees and all) would be sold for a price.
@Chepakishui overwatch 2 is now worse than most mobile gacha games. Both are free to play but at least mobile gacha games don't have you pay for their main story chapters
This isn't the PvE that they promised. This is on par with archive missions or Junkerstein's Revenge that we were getting for free to keep us playing the game. That is why everyone who played OV expected this to be free. And it should be free to keep people playing this game and spend money on cosmetics.
Of course I expected it for free, these missions are only apparently 30 minutes each, there is no ability to play the missions by yourself either so the fact that we have to pay 15 dollars for that? It's a rip off.
Funny thing is if Blizzard just offered this for free as a PR move, it would've blunted the damage of them gutting PVE to an extent in my opinion.
That what i was expecting them to do and i was like "there is no way that they can do the situation even worse than this"....guess who was wrong...again.
I quited OW after day 2 of OW "2", they screw the game for me and i choose to end it before i sink hours on OW "2" and leave the game with a bad taste of my mouth, i choose to live with the good memories i had with the game.
The whole reason they cancelled the PVE is because it didn't make enough money for them. This whole restructuring and packaging it into multiple transactions every season is their way of trying to make it as lucrative as skins rather then just making a enjoyable experience.
@@illuminous7937 Exactly, it wasn't going to lead to congruent user spending so it got chopped up and will now be sold in pieces. Anyone who buys this shit is a rube beyond help.
@@marvikv2505 currently wishing I did the same
Its funny seeing Overwatch creators complaining about the end of PVE and calling out Blizzard, only to stick with the game and be "excited" to play the story missions anyway, while complaining about how bad it is. Funny and utterly pathetic.
Blizzard is that one friend that can’t even do the bare minimum in a school project.
*and then takes credit for the group's win.
funny thing about the watchpoint pack, they basically released a new one every season. So far there has been 5 watchpoint packs, I believe. I anticipate a greedy move from them. To me it was expected that the story missions would be locked behind the battle pass. But them charging for them seperatly caught so off gaurd. Its such a unattractive solution and its also insane levels of greed especially after all they have done
Feels like every time there's a major controversy in Activision/Blizzard, they try to figure out a way to make it even worse.
I don't think there has ever been a better time to quit Overwatch than right now. Seriously, screw them for making these absurdly greedy changes.
I honestly don't know how most people are able to withstand the salty players. One of the most negative social experiences in games. There are pretty good games coming out now, people don't have to deal with this
dude I quit 2 weeks into the launch of OW2 after playing everyday since literally the open beta back in 2016 and I'm really glad I did. This game went from being one of best games of all time to legit shittier than a mtx/ad ridden mobile game. This game (if you can even call it that) just keeps getting worse by the day and I don't know how people stick around and still play. Addiction is fucking real dude
I thought the best time to quit ActiBlizz was when the abuse allegations arose? Still haven't touched any ActiBlizz games.
love how 66% of the base budles value comes from a skin. And 43% for the uber give us money version of the bundle
I was scammed out of $40 by the deceptive battle pass pre-order thinking I'd get the campaign when it came out too. But not only will I not get the story, despite spending the first games launch retail price on it, I'm now expected by Blizzard to shell out even more money?
I don't know how they're still in business. They should have been shut down after the massive investigation of harassment cases
Think of the people that spend money on the game and didn’t know it was going to be shut down and then made free. All they got was a few heroes and that’s pretty much it.
they're still in business because gamers are stupid and spend their money on these greedy companies. you want change stop wasting your money on blizzard, its that simple.
The fact one of the comments here was auto-deleted shows us the kind of world we live in...
Imagine having to pay to play story missions after you already bought the game. That's the most absurd money pinching thing I've seen in awhile.
Overwatch 2 is worse than mobile gacha games now. Both are free to play but at least the mobile gacha games don't lock the main story out with a pay wall
@@Zerovin give it time. If this works expect events at least to be paywalled in mobile games.
This is the final straw for me. I’ve still been playing Overwatch this whole time, despite Blizzard’s many, MANY terrible decisions, but this is what finally convinced me to uninstall.
They knew exactly what they were doing from day 1. I honestly don't think they intended to add a fully fleshed out story mode in the first place. They just used that to stifle the backlash they would get for even making a new game. They wanted to convert Overwatch to a "mobile" model, and just changing OW1 would have upset people even more. So they HAD to release a second one, and they knew people would be pissed, and just go back to 1, which is why they basically deleted the game. This is worse than battlefront 2...
Their plan worked, somewhat. When 2 launched, and I didn't have access to 1 anymore, I didn't play it, but I wasn't that mad because I knew I could play PvE content when it came out. NOW? I won't touch this game.
I'm baffled how no one saw this coming. Even with my low attention span and lack of pattern recognition I totally expected them to charge some dumb amount for the "PVE" part of the game.
Yeah, if you look at the grammar structure of the sentence, that's $15 for just those 3 missions, and it's just saying that you won't lose access to those 3 missions after the season ends. So yeah, $15 for just the 3 missions. If they follow other games seasonal models, that's $15 4x per year for 3 missions each season that you can finish comfortable in a single evening each.
When they announced the removal of the lootboxes, I was almost the only one skeptic.
My point was that Blizzard wouldn't just give up the money provided by the lootboxes, and the only reason they could have to remove them was if they had a system much worse than that.
People thought i was just stupid.
Come on. How much time Blizzard have to fool you until you finally understand ?!
Far from the only one. As soon as "no lootboxes" were mentioned, the collective thought process was "Oh fuck, they've figured out something WORSE than lootboxes"...and here we are. Anyone who thought they would drop their only stream of revenue in a game they turned free-to-play just has not been paying attention to the gaming industry for the past decade.
Soon as I saw that lootboxes were being removed I knew I would be uninstalling the game soon. There's no way they would remove something like that without a "better" (better for blizzard) system to make money..
I ended up uninstalling after I played OW2 and realized teh whole experience was a downgrade from the UI to gameplay. Sure some things I liked but the vast majority I didn't.
I actually liked the loot box system in Overwatch 1. When an event came out with new cosmetics, a casual player like me could play for a few hours with friends and eventually get the skins/highlight intros/etc. that I wanted without paying.
@@Anaphriel I mean. This is literally just "episodic releases" again. Which didn't work the first time and I doubt it'll work any better this time.
@@nightingale9661not to mention you can get coins from duplicates and save for the limited skins you want
OW1 was my favorite multiplayer game last gen and it’s sad to see how badly the franchise’s been mismanaged. Ow2 is a shell of 2016-2019 OW
ah yes because the lootboxes were such a great thing.
Also people hoped for PvE Content / Story in OW anyway. That´s just bullshit.
i couldt say it better.
@justdracir8197 lootboxes were far more preferable to this battle pass or you don't get a whole character bullshit.
@@guycd1 mate the whole game is fokin bullshit since the start of it.
And there is people still this day that climb up Blizzards ass every fokin time and it´s just grrraaah.
It´s a pointless fight in the end. The microtransaction and shady practices have won.
I was one of those people that didn't really like OW2 as an FPS but the prospect of the PVE stuff intrigued me and I was definitely considering picking it up if that stuff materialized. Lucklily Blizzard already ruined my faith in them a few years ago so I didn't just spend money on OW2 at launch lol.
Honestly seen I had some faith in it but I'm so glad I have avoided all of their bulshit
There's no way that this wasn't planned by them.
That’s actually exactly right. They said all the way back in 2019 that the PvE would be paywalled, people who weren’t paying attention this whole time are only just now learning about this when they’ve been up front about the cost this whole time
The whole reason they cancelled the PVE is because it didn't make enough money for them. This whole restructuring and packaging it into multiple transactions every season is their way of trying to make it as lucrative as skins rather then just making a enjoyable experience.
It's not that they didn't work on PvE content is just that they needed it to work alongside their current monetization scheme for this excuse of a sequel. I feel bad for all those who bought the Watchpoint package thinking they would get some PvE benefits from it, dang...
No game, Overwatch included, is worth all the blatant disrespect from this company. When will the players show any sign of self respect and just delete it?
This company can't go 10 minutes without getting into controversy
The saddest part is, this'll look so good on their revenue graph they'll just do it again
Skill trees would've been a nice way to teach newcomers how to play each hero.
Activision Blizzard way overselling and way under delivering then trying to have their cake AND eat it too is crazy to me.
The problem is not charging money for the PVE. I was expecting to pay a fixed price for the whole experience back when they announced OW2 goes free to play.
The problem is if you don't purchase the "3 missions set" before the season's end, you loose the opportunity to have access to it. It's written in white and black "if you pay, you have permanent access", meaning those who don't pay in time can't even pay for it in the future. This IS the problem here for me. You can't force people to spent money, this is FOMO abuse!
The more I read about it, the worse it gets. That's nuts!
Blizzard hasn't catered to my gaming sensibilities for over 2 decades. Business model is just rotten at this point.
I never thought PvE would be free but to ask for $15 over several battle pass seasons is scummy because 5 seasons and its already over $60 a full price game. But I just know the “but but its F2P they (devs) have to make money” people are only seeing FREE TO PLAY GAME and can’t see that its scummy none the less.
F2P has always been a slippery slope, it was fine when they did kickstarters and fundraiser after releasing the game, for people who liked the game and wanted to support them for making and adding more content, or helping support thier development for thier next entry or project. I think the F2P model went wrong after they started to pay wall exclusive game content in the game for the game, regardless of if it ranged from cosmetics to entire parts of the game.
Let us not forget that we never asked for this. I payed for the original OW, had no problem with paying for it because it was at a fair price and seemed to be worth the money. Blizzard is the one who decided to make it free to play, only to start using this as a poor excuse to make it a microtransaction filled hellhole that isn't worth a fifth of what I paid for OW 1.
@@spencerwilliams7385 Yea, i was not a fan of locking heroes behind a paywall. So i never paid and indulged them in that bullshit. Now i have the game uninstalled and happy to not be returning. I was a long time fan and played 1 for years and they have done an awesome job at alienating the fan base.
I just wanted to call out these F2P bootlickers who think everything a company does with charges is okay since its free to play. Just got into a debate with someone talking about marvel snap because its F2P and they made a $30 card variant bundle and the card was supposed to be in a lower bracket (series 3 cards) which means people would have an easier time getting it because they give you one series 3 card free a season.
Instead they kept the card as a series 4. Meaning its more expensive with in game tokens. But had the audacity to drop a bundle for $30 USD. Guy i was arguing with was like well you can get it with in game tokens. Thats all these people know how to recite and nothing more.
Yes, the card can be free but that doesn’t make what they did less scummy.
Same applies here because I know OW nut huggers will be defending this all day because its F2P.
Sorry for the tangent
@@deusex2005 TBH if they had made the story mode they promised i would have had no problem paying $40-60 for it but now I hope the game fails. I played OW1 for years and i know have the game uninstalled. I will not be returning because this is not the game i loved several years ago.
@@478Johnnyboy Yep, the MT in F2P games is outrageous now, and it's mainly due to mouth breathing consumers that keep eating this shit up and defending it, or the whales that come in and just dumb thier banks
Remember when Blizzard's name alone was enough to sell you something? Pepperidge farm remembers.
When Jeff said he'd redefine what a sequel meant.. well.. It wasn't quite him doing it, but he was spot on.
ActiBlizz never disappoints in being disappointing.
make EA look great. That's how bad it is
Legit question: at what point does a class action lawsuit seem imminent?
Never. I was seeing a different discussion and someone talked about a class action suit, someone posted a site that resumed blizzard's ToS and turns out we renounce to our right to do that when we accept it.
@@Jofe000 thats not really a problem. You don’t get to sneakily have someone sign a document that they don’t entirely understand and claim it gives you permission to break the law. Simply arguing that the clause wasn’t made abundantly clear when agreeing to the tos is enough to get it tossed. Companies try to do stuff like that all the time and it just gets thrown out.
I get it that people who didn't play overwatch are ok with overwatch "2" because they didn't know anything better. But it's so hard to be the OG overwatch player who got the owned game stolen from account by the company who made it, and replaced with this stinker cash grab update by force. There are parallels between overwatch "2" and abusive relationship, where activision blizzard keep being disgusting pieces of human filth and some original players still come back to them and their game to play, saying "it was so good long time ago". I'm never purchasing anything blizzard and anything activision again. Good thing that I never was attached to any of activision IPs and never was attached to any of blizzard games aside rock'n'roll racing, lost vikings 2, diablo 2 and overwatch. It feels awkward to tell this obvious thing, but to all players - we are the real power. Hard to organize and get together, but we are the only thing that brings money to the greedy corpo rats who ruined our favourite games, fictional characters, stories and worlds for the sake of profit. If we don't pay and refuse to play, they will go bankrupt. It will be better if they go bankrupt than if they continue desecrating corpses of great old games.
I refuse to play, I refuse to pay, and I refuse to keep their live service cash grabs on my PC and consoles.
Wouldn't you know it? I was just watching Act Man's video on Activision Blizzard hating Call of Duty, when just as it was about to finish, I get a notification: YongYea's video on how Activision Blizzard is doing more sucky stuff to suck like they've never sucked before. Activision Blizzard just won't stop! 😫
Crazy to think how the last time Blizzard made a good business decision with Overwatch was releasing the game in 2016.
I'm actually happy hearing news like this. I makes it really easy to resist the urge to buy Diablo 4. I was worried I'd cave at some point but nothing so far.
i applaud you for resisting!
I have a theory that the reason why you have to pay for these missions, is because micro transaction sales for Overwatch 2 have been so low, that it can not survive as a free to play entity and needed some way to bring in more cash to keep it afloat.
Greed is oozing out of Blizzard at this point