@@IzuGo319photon barrier can change team fight by providing insane cover for your team.Tac visor and deadeye although can get insane value,its so easily countered by so many different things in this game.Not to mention that both can be countered by hiding in behing barrier or just any cover really
how do they expect us to buy their guide memberships if they consistently make tier lists that display the exact opposite of what all of the top level players are telling us?
No clue. The fact Molten core is below Artillery is ridiculous. Primal rage juggles and environmentally kills, which doesn't make it overrated, just good.
@@Antonio-ys5zd Sym wall is a million times better than molten core lmao. Wall can even block molten core when torb ults making him have no space to take over with it. Wall you can position it at range to take space with extreme flexibility both horizontal and vertical deployment. It's easily A or A+ tier and braindead easily to use and utilize. Just because it's boring and passive doesn't make it bad.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep one: no it's not. Two: who the hell sprays molten core at the wall instead of running through the wall? Three: an ykt that does damage or forces a team apart is better than a non lethal threat. 4. This is an old comment so why the new comment?
@@Antonio-ys5zd Ah fascinating I never knew torb normally ults point blank under his feet and plays that far forward to ult to just walk through wall to ult. Yes he clearly is that far forward to secure space because it's empty uncontested safe space to do so. That makes a lot of sense, you clearly play the game.
Moira's coalescent are much better for stabilizing your team, which with good aim and dash can also be used for breaking the enemy line and/or canceling enemy's ult, enough for the team to get a chance to survive and win. If you're prioritizing the ult for kills/damage, you most likely will fail after the ult is over without a single kill
I mean it's great for safely picking off enemy supports at range to win teamfights... Just a tip you know you can stand on top of a teammate like a tank and ult through them pointing it at a single enemy player like mercy to kill them while pointing that healing through the tank right...
Shatter should be bottom of A, not top of it and Doom ult gives you a charged punch, which i'd say, on top of the cooldown reduction, is around whole hog strength
Dps list, I think molten core is B and sym wall is high A low S Tank list is fine, except terra surge in S is a bit generous, id say high B Support list is fine too but tree in D is a bit harsh, id say high C, and Id say rally is A
@@Antonio-ys5zd it splits the fight in half and if you know how to weave in and out if it accordingly then its hard for the enemy team to damage you as you can attack through it but they cannit
@@h_haz they can wait it out or walk through it themselves or shield themselves or do so much to the point it's useless unless you are avoiding ranged attacks
Im not sure if lifeweaver's tree deserves to be that low. Yeah its no kirko ult. But it can allow your team to take the objective and win the team fight. Ive almost never lost a team fight when my tree is out
I agree, its not god tier but I can’t tell you how many losing games have been turned around by a single well placed tree of life, maybe it ranks low in reality but it has loads of potential
Its like zenyatta's transcendence. But it has more counters. Like anti heal and most importantly. EMP. EMP completely destroys the tree. and the healing isnt instant I think.
@user-bq7xk8vi4m yeah, it just lasts longer than transcends. Yup try to wait for emp if a sneaky somber is around. I'm not saying it's s tier or anything. I'm just saying this tier list didn't do it justice
i main pharah in t500 and i know the trade off of being immobile for burst damage w barrage is NOT more valuable than blades ability to simply create space and target isolated backlines (or even bait out other ults)
Orisa ult in S tier is fucking unbelievable, B tier at best, Torb ult is no doubt a A, Sombra EMP is meh and situational and A at best. And no way in hell sigma flux and shatter is not S but orisa ult is S
Orisa ult S because of basically immobile targets… yea so like 3 maybe 4 heros unless 98% of the roster is on cooldown and also if 98% of the roster dosent see the Orisa overextending using all her abilities to get close. 😂.
I'm no expert by any imagination, but I wouldn't have predicted any of these placements on the tier list. The ones I feel are weak were ranked high and the ones I thought were strong were ranked low. hmm
As an Orisa main, whatever y'all are smoking i need some. Surge is B tier AT BEST. You put it higher than flux and grav? "It's great against immobile targets" yeah so is almost everything else. And most heros have a way to escape, or hell Sombra can shut that shit down with a hack, sure flux can as well, but at least sig can fly outta range, Risa is a sitting duck. I'm plat in support, silver dps and gold tank, and even I'm not this stupid.
That pharah take is horrible. Pharah ult: “if you hit one shot you can trade your life with enemy tank”…. Think about what you just said. Dva = matrix/booster. Sigma = shield, suck. Ball = he’s literally never standing still. Doom = punch away/block/leap. Winston = bubble, leap, also not standing still. Orisa = fortify, javelin stun. Rein = backs up with shield and maybe your team gets him from behind. Do I need to even continue?
@@Hosppeno you aren’t but the point is they said “you can trade your life for a tank”. Dvas especially upper levels know how to manage their matrix and at the highest levels can boost and kill a pharah in air. On top of that what opportunities are there? If dvas boosters are on cooldown that means she’s most likely not close enough to you and by the time you get to her she can always boost away because of the cooldown. The point is this whole channel has the worst lists regarding ults and tier lists. They will say “this is based on meta” and then talk about Orisa ult being S tier when the meta is heros like sombra, tracer, dva etc and literally tons for high mobility characters.
JQs ult is not deserving at all of an S considering one button will counter all effects immediately, Pharahs is by far the worst ult in the DMG category if not the game, tree you can get 3 times a round, Mei’s only good if you get the tank, Rams best ult for tank.
I’m sorry did you just say widow has the worst ult???? Maybe if your dogshit. But information is the most important resource in this game and that one gives you all of it. That shit is super good.
Pls guys don’t listen to this tier list also lw ult is not bad I give it c tier people forget that it counter basically half the tank roster ultimate also if ur good with your movement/ petal platform u can survive when the tree is up I swear these people need to play the game, another note Ik lw is not good rn but his ultimate is not entirely bad and can win fights if used properly
lol just use it better, and i don’t see how it gives the other team space. quite the opposite in my opinion bc the opposing team would likely scatter when doom ults
Gameleap is once again showing us that nobody on the channel actually plays the game
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Yo bro. Orisa over shatter? Get out you right 😂😂
Amen brother brother amen.
I'm trying to figure out how the hell sym ult is above deadeye or tac visor
@@IzuGo319photon barrier can change team fight by providing insane cover for your team.Tac visor and deadeye although can get insane value,its so easily countered by so many different things in this game.Not to mention that both can be countered by hiding in behing barrier or just any cover really
Imagine putting terra surge over flux and grav 💀
how do they expect us to buy their guide memberships if they consistently make tier lists that display the exact opposite of what all of the top level players are telling us?
No clue. The fact Molten core is below Artillery is ridiculous. Primal rage juggles and environmentally kills, which doesn't make it overrated, just good.
@@YujiPlowman-tm6idthe fact it's below sym wall is even worse
@@Antonio-ys5zd Sym wall is a million times better than molten core lmao. Wall can even block molten core when torb ults making him have no space to take over with it. Wall you can position it at range to take space with extreme flexibility both horizontal and vertical deployment. It's easily A or A+ tier and braindead easily to use and utilize. Just because it's boring and passive doesn't make it bad.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep one: no it's not. Two: who the hell sprays molten core at the wall instead of running through the wall? Three: an ykt that does damage or forces a team apart is better than a non lethal threat. 4. This is an old comment so why the new comment?
@@Antonio-ys5zd Ah fascinating I never knew torb normally ults point blank under his feet and plays that far forward to ult to just walk through wall to ult. Yes he clearly is that far forward to secure space because it's empty uncontested safe space to do so. That makes a lot of sense, you clearly play the game.
Torb’s ult in D tier is wild.
Nah
People walk into it every time when I use it
@@rverma64. lowrank then
@@halvardlangeland2888 some people are just stupid
@@halvardlangeland2888the fact it can be used to stop them from leaving spawn???
Orisa is definitely a D or C tier ult bro plays an 1 of overwatch a week
Moira's coalescent are much better for stabilizing your team, which with good aim and dash can also be used for breaking the enemy line and/or canceling enemy's ult, enough for the team to get a chance to survive and win. If you're prioritizing the ult for kills/damage, you most likely will fail after the ult is over without a single kill
This!
I mean it's great for safely picking off enemy supports at range to win teamfights... Just a tip you know you can stand on top of a teammate like a tank and ult through them pointing it at a single enemy player like mercy to kill them while pointing that healing through the tank right...
There’s no way in hell that bastion ult is better than torb ult im calling bullshit on that
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GameLeap: Puts Molten Cum in D Tier
Also GameLeap: Gets a triple with it
Terra surge in S tier is insane
Ramattras deserves S tier
@@AndreOnana1Great, but Terra Surge is Orisa's ult
Fr, even Lifeweaver counters that ult with his plateform😂 How tf is it S tier?🗿
Buddy put junker queens ult higher than sigma… who made this list
Sb that is better than you because junkers ult was always op asf 200 dmg with an anti heal is crazy
Shatter should be bottom of A, not top of it and Doom ult gives you a charged punch, which i'd say, on top of the cooldown reduction, is around whole hog strength
It allows you to play so aggressive and can consistently get you a pick either with the ult or the punch
Your rating should add the ultimate required cost, lifeweaver cost very low. And can using in long-range map to defend sniper or long-range shooter
Dps list, I think molten core is B and sym wall is high A low S
Tank list is fine, except terra surge in S is a bit generous, id say high B
Support list is fine too but tree in D is a bit harsh, id say high C, and Id say rally is A
Sym wall is C-tier at best. It only slows down the fight at most and doesn't provide killing potential
@@Antonio-ys5zd it splits the fight in half and if you know how to weave in and out if it accordingly then its hard for the enemy team to damage you as you can attack through it but they cannit
@@h_haz they can wait it out or walk through it themselves or shield themselves or do so much to the point it's useless unless you are avoiding ranged attacks
Im not sure if lifeweaver's tree deserves to be that low. Yeah its no kirko ult. But it can allow your team to take the objective and win the team fight. Ive almost never lost a team fight when my tree is out
I agree, its not god tier but I can’t tell you how many losing games have been turned around by a single well placed tree of life, maybe it ranks low in reality but it has loads of potential
150 burst heal with massive radius and pumps out 75 heals every other second no way its not good well placed trees swing games
Its like zenyatta's transcendence. But it has more counters. Like anti heal and most importantly. EMP. EMP completely destroys the tree. and the healing isnt instant I think.
@user-bq7xk8vi4m yeah, it just lasts longer than transcends. Yup try to wait for emp if a sneaky somber is around. I'm not saying it's s tier or anything. I'm just saying this tier list didn't do it justice
@@doakesanddrax agreed. Deserves B tier at most.
orisa ult, at S? over FLUX?
Didn't Season 5 start last week?
Soldier’s ult needs to be a lot higher. Putting syms wall above aimbot is ridiculous
putting barrage over blade is insane
Its blade without nano…
No nano
i main pharah in t500 and i know the trade off of being immobile for burst damage w barrage is NOT more valuable than blades ability to simply create space and target isolated backlines (or even bait out other ults)
@halvardlangeland2888 so? A good genji will still get minimum 2 picks with it easily
@@vibezz4556 depends on game, barage is free kill on any tank thats not dva. Barage is more consistant and gets better kills.
Torbs moltencore just casually siting in d tier 😂 but bruh if u use it correctly then i think its A tier
There is abseloutly no way you thought that ORISA ult and shatter are better than sigmas ult.
Orisa ult in S tier is fucking unbelievable, B tier at best, Torb ult is no doubt a A, Sombra EMP is meh and situational and A at best. And no way in hell sigma flux and shatter is not S but orisa ult is S
Orisa ult S because of basically immobile targets… yea so like 3 maybe 4 heros unless 98% of the roster is on cooldown and also if 98% of the roster dosent see the Orisa overextending using all her abilities to get close. 😂.
No. Just no.
Bro C tier for cassidy ultimate? Who let him cook? 😭
ah yea wrecking ball effectively locking down an entire choke/flank/obj is not consistent value but orisa’s ult that rarely gets elims is
Tip for hanzo ult. Go behind the entire team like a rat and ult.
I'm no expert by any imagination, but I wouldn't have predicted any of these placements on the tier list. The ones I feel are weak were ranked high and the ones I thought were strong were ranked low. hmm
As an Orisa main, whatever y'all are smoking i need some. Surge is B tier AT BEST. You put it higher than flux and grav? "It's great against immobile targets" yeah so is almost everything else. And most heros have a way to escape, or hell Sombra can shut that shit down with a hack, sure flux can as well, but at least sig can fly outta range, Risa is a sitting duck.
I'm plat in support, silver dps and gold tank, and even I'm not this stupid.
There should be no person alive that pays this mf for a membership to be better at a game cmon
That pharah take is horrible. Pharah ult: “if you hit one shot you can trade your life with enemy tank”…. Think about what you just said. Dva = matrix/booster. Sigma = shield, suck. Ball = he’s literally never standing still. Doom = punch away/block/leap. Winston = bubble, leap, also not standing still. Orisa = fortify, javelin stun. Rein = backs up with shield and maybe your team gets him from behind. Do I need to even continue?
you're not supposed to dive bomb with her ult, if the enemy tank has every cd don't go for the play so aggro, pretty simple
@@Hosppedoesn’t change the fact that pharah ult is awful
@@stellatedrook6910 get better at pharah, her ult isn't the best part of her kit but it certainly isn't bad lmao
@@Hosppeno you aren’t but the point is they said “you can trade your life for a tank”. Dvas especially upper levels know how to manage their matrix and at the highest levels can boost and kill a pharah in air. On top of that what opportunities are there? If dvas boosters are on cooldown that means she’s most likely not close enough to you and by the time you get to her she can always boost away because of the cooldown. The point is this whole channel has the worst lists regarding ults and tier lists. They will say “this is based on meta” and then talk about Orisa ult being S tier when the meta is heros like sombra, tracer, dva etc and literally tons for high mobility characters.
@@BetaNurse68 t500 meta rn is not dva my guy....
JQs ult is not deserving at all of an S considering one button will counter all effects immediately, Pharahs is by far the worst ult in the DMG category if not the game, tree you can get 3 times a round, Mei’s only good if you get the tank, Rams best ult for tank.
Nobody is talking about them doing soldier like that. He easily gets a couple picks if he uses it on a flank.
Ikr it’s literally aimbot
Echo’s is actually really good because it can duplicate any character and their ults
I have a feeling their target audience is about Gold and Plat players.
THANK YOU FOR putting torjborns ult almost last because it really does suck ass
I can 100% disagree with you on JQ it is good but situational and kirkio, Cassidy, Ana, and even rein and orisa can stop it.
Tiering the ults is wrong without denoting the map considered
Midtown
can you make a ultimat aim guide
Dva auto destruct in B is the worst opinion of the entire universe
I’m sorry did you just say widow has the worst ult???? Maybe if your dogshit. But information is the most important resource in this game and that one gives you all of it. That shit is super good.
Pls guys don’t listen to this tier list also lw ult is not bad I give it c tier people forget that it counter basically half the tank roster ultimate also if ur good with your movement/ petal platform u can survive when the tree is up I swear these people need to play the game, another note Ik lw is not good rn but his ultimate is not entirely bad and can win fights if used properly
Orisa ult isn't good
Terra surge is ass cuz ur vulnerable, and ppl can escape in time, and you can get killed easily while using it
Echos ult has gotn nerfed it’s awful
You forgot mauga again!
Does this man even actually PLAY the game if Bap’s window is in C tier..
ngl moltancore d tier is a bit harsh
bastions ult got nerfed into the ground
how is molten core d tier…………….
syms ult is easily high A tier
This is a good April Fools video😂😂😂
Thanks
Torb in D but bastion in C? Cmon
Wholehog is too good to be in B
Never make a teir list again 💀
Absolutely horrible list
Blud need to go back to apex
Orisa in S tier? You must be joking. Its a POS ult. C tier for sure
Valk over amp matrix🥸
But i understand you its just a content
Doom ult literally gives the other team space. Quite literally does the opposite of what a tank should do
lol just use it better, and i don’t see how it gives the other team space. quite the opposite in my opinion bc the opposing team would likely scatter when doom ults
I swear whoever made this list doesn’t play the game lol
Never make a list again
first
Reaper in A tier... how delusional can one youtube channel be