This movie has one of my favorite movie quotes about politicians ever: “I’m a politician, which means I’m a cheat and a liar, and when I’m not kissin’ babies, I’m stealin’ their lollipops.”
That is accurate..the only thing I would point out that there were several 'proxy skirmishes/ police actions/battles...what have you.....funded (either outright or clandestinely) by the U.S.S.R. and the United States.... There was definitely that. I am, of course, nitpicking.... It is one of my favorite quotes from the movie as well. ✌️
19:55, love this moment when the Admiral tells the Captain of the Enterprise, chill he is one of us. Ryan just never got his chance to serve in uniform. But he is still out here doing his part.
Sam Neil shared a story about Sean Connery in this movie. He explained that Connery's famous Scottish accent was very recognizable even though he was supposed to be Russian. The director got him vocal coaches, lots of practice at the accent and multiple takes, but none of it was working. Finally Sean Connery got fed up with it and exclaimed angrily to the director "You don't understand! I'm Sean Fucking Connery! You'll hire an entire Scottish crew so I'll blend in!"
Mark 6:24. Connery saying, "You have the conn." is funny! 😆 It's also funny when I'm viewing the video, and I get notifications about replies to this video from you guys, and suddenly, I have two separate windows open on the same video. That's never happened to me before! 😆
24:30 no, they were really shooting at them. But they brought the submarine so close to the rock wall, it confused the torpedo and it hit the wall instead of the ship. The crewman is panicking, so to calm things down, Sam Neils character pulls a story. But the reality was, Sean Connery's character just saved everyones life with a risky manouver that paid off. :)
No, no, I mean, nearly, but not quite. The torpedo cannot see the cliff face because it is not making any noise, what blinds it is reversing the engine and making a HUGE cloud of noise .
@@Belzediel I don't think that is the case here. 🙂 True, some torpedoes home in on noise, but this one clearly uses an active sonar guidance system, thus the pings we hear. The reversal of the starboard proppeler is done in order to help turn the vessel faster to avoid crashing into the wall. ☺
@@JanGaarni OK, just so we're clear, you think this torpedo is using sonar instead of sonar. And you think a submarine can turn quicker than a torpedo.
Mark 5:42. The text is... USS DALLAS LOS ANGELES CLASS ATTACK SUB 100 MILES NORTHWEST OF POLIJARNY INLET That would be in the periphery of the Atlantic Ocean. ⚓️
Rainbow 6 refers to the team name from the book the games were originally based off. They were called "Rainbow" because they came from all over the world. The "6" is the leader, John Clark. Remember in Band of Brothers when Winters tells Luz to use the radio in one scene, you hear Luz say Easy 6 calling Easy CP. He was saying Easy Leader calling command.
Id do bad things for R6 movie it has one best interrogation scenes ever. Clark and Ding playing Good cop bad cop with the IRA guy is just funny as hell Ding just goes full LA Gang banger mode on on the guy and Clark is just i cant stop him we he gets like this... soo good
Cool factoid the Senator is played by Richard Jordan. He's been in two other scifi movies in the past. He was in Logan's Run as Francis 6 and Duncan Idaho in the original dune movie from 1984. After this movie came out Tom Clancy got a visit from the CIA about how he got the Soviet sub controls right. Oh the Enterprise carrier has been retired but there are plans to make the next Ford Class carrier to be called Enterprise. Its designation will be CVN 80. In my honest opinion there should always be a ship in the US Navy called Enterprise.
You made a "Star Trek" reference. Did you notice that, although it was just a small scene at the beginning of the film, Jack Ryan's wife was played by Gates McFadden, Dr. Beverly Crusher on "Star Trek The Next Generation"?
CSS Hunley 1864 ... first two crews drown during trials. Third crew successfully made the first submarine kill on USS Housatonic but the spar-torpedo blast killed them too. Sub was found and raised in 2000, complete autopsy showed the crew died instantly from hemorrhage caused by the shock wave.
Mark 16:28. Aha! You know that they're being emotional when they begin smoking within the confines of a submarine! It makes the air scrubbers work extra hard to be rid of the smoke!
There was a old spoof of this movie titled "Going Under" where in some places it was translated to "The Hunt for Pink November" (1991). Movie was really silly. I would recommend though to watch "Down Periscope" - a submarine comedy starring Kelsey Grammer (1996).
There's a WWII sub movie called "Operation Petticoat" (1959) with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis that features a literal pink submarine (she was attacked and driven out of port while the sub was still wearing her primer coat).
Tom Clancy is a serious authority on military, politics and espionage. The Sum of All Fears has a great audio commentary by him and the director and Tom points out EVERYTHING the director got wrong and why. And he debunks surveillance capabilities of the nature "If he farts we'll know when and for how long". Intel is not that detailed nor does it need to be. What the enemy is up to is far more obvious and not the big secret movies have taught us and much of it can be discovered without hidden microphones or cameras.
Actually the first submarine was actually used during the Revolutionary War. A submarine called the Turtle a one man submersible attempted and failed to attack the HMS Eagle in New York harbor. The sub attempted to attach a gunpowder torpedo to the hull but failed.
When this movie came out my sons were in high school. They and many of their friends were so excited. They all read the book and even standing in line for the movie they were reading as fast as they could. Great movie, I’ve watched many times.
When Dasha reacted to this flick, she said most of the spoken Russian was poorly done. Alec Baldwin, Sean Connery and the Russian sailor that greeted them at the ladder got their Russian right.
she also said in response to Sean Connery's "I give us one chance in 3" by stating "that's still pretty good odds" which to me is just about the most Russian thing I've ever heard.
Connery (I love him!) has terrible Russian. I don't remember Dasha's reaction too well, but I doubt she said that Connery's Russian was any good. I have no idea what he's supposed to be saying. They even had to dumb down the dialogue for him, so that instead of "vy gavarite po-russki" (which in the subtitles is translated as "you speak Russian") he says what sounds like "nu, po-russki", which doesn't make much sense, it's just, "well, in Russian." Baldwin's Russian is somewhat OK for an American movie from 1990. Only the sailor on the ladder is good, I suspect he's a native speaker. On a separate note, an actor who had AMAZING Russian was Robin Williams in Moscow on Hudson.
My favorite line from this movie is when Ramius asks Ryan "You parle ruski" (You speak Russian.) Jack replies in Russian "A little. It is wise to study the ways of ones adversary. Don't you think?" and Ramius replies in English "It is"
@@Belzediel interesting.... I watch "Dasha Reacts" and she always tries to translate the Russian in movies when the subtitles are wrong. Or sometimes she says "I have no idea what they just said" even when there are subtitles.
@@RedmoonIndustries I'm familiar with Dascha too, but, that's what he says. It may well be an idiom, technically he says 'well flowing Russian' but the dialogue trips over it. It's a very minor point, but it is a stumble.
Fun facts!: The transition from the characters speaking their native language to English is also Clear And Present Danger. The novel Hunt For Red October was published before Patriot Games, though in a timeline of events they are the other way. This movie not only has James Bond, it also has Darth Vader!
Richard Jordan was great as Jeffrey Pelt. This was one of his last film roles, he would pass 3 years later (1993) of brain cancer at age 56. Such a loss. - Tom Clancy’s FIRST Novel (and first one filmed, 1990). Alec Baldwin was unknown actor for films, this introduced him to public. Sam Neill would follow this film with Jurassic Park (1993). John McTiernan (director) filmed this after Die Hard !
@@RKnights He would appear in the film, Gettysburg (1993, Ted Turner’s film project) - after his death. He played Brigadier General Lewis Armistead. As part of Pickett’s charge, Armistead’s brigade reached the farthest point of the charge. Historians refer to this as the “high-water mark” of the Confederacy. Armistead’s uncle, George, was commander that defended Fort McHenry from British during War of 1812.
Okay, gents. I know the last thing you need is more recommendations, but, since you like submarine movies, here are a couple that are damned good. 1. Das Boot (pronounced "boat"). Very realistic WWII movie on a German sub. It's nothing less than f#cking amazing! 2. Ice Station Zebra. Cool, plot-twisty cold-war thriller that I absolutely love! (Stars Rock Hudson, Ernest Borgnine, and British actor Patrick McGoohan (who starred in the British TV show The Prisoner--which I recommended elsewhere and is a MUST SEE program as well!)
Guys, hi! Bram Stoker and Mary Shelly are two people who participated in a bet competition that resulted in his "Dracula" novel and her novel, "Frankenstein". I don't recall the others. Well, inspired by that, some people came up with a competition to make submarine movies. "The Abyss" and this movie are two of the results. I don't recall the others. 🤔
The CSA Hunley was a submarine used by the confederacy during the civil war. She was lunched on February 17 1864 & lost the same day. She was found in 2000 & now is persevered in a museum. She was raised in August of 2000. Another historic moment is the raising of the Union Ironclad USS Monitor. They raise the turret & engine of the ship. The remains of the ship are still on the ocean floor.
Ahhh the 1990s - the GRESTEST decade for movies! Add this film to the DOZENS of other BRILLIANT films made during the golden decade. I really miss the 1990s. Thanks for sharing.
Mark 43:12. Hey! You showed us the plush bear, but not the wife and child! Cheryl Gates McFadden got to be the wife/mother in this movie because she had been let go from her role in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" as "Doctor Beverly Howard Crusher, MD"! So she got to do a few movies before they brought her back into the fold! 🖖 When Harrison Ford takes over, the wife is played by actress Ann Archer, and the daughter is new too. Alec Baldwin makes a good Superhero too as a live-action version of "The Shadow"! I got so used to his looks as the host of "Match Game" that I forgot that he used to look like he does in this movie! 😂
I read somewhere that it takes like five missile keys to launch nukes on a Russian boat. They don't / didn't trust their people. Still, the closing lines of the HRO novel are thought provoking. Admiral Greer meets Jack as he disembarks, and Jack hands him the Red October's missile keys. "You can end the world with those".
If you want to see one of the GREATEST, if not THE greatest submarine movie, Das Boot (The Boat) about a WWII Uboat and its daily life experience during WWII. The Book was written from the author's experiences aboard a Uboat, and the Book was dramatized in to the movie.
I agree wholeheartedly! I was in college when I saw Das Boot in its initial release. I don't think words can convey how tense, riveting, and engrossing that movie is. The Wikipedia article on Das Boot in the Critical Response section states: "Today, the film is seen as one of the greatest German films. On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film received an approval rating of 98% based on 55 reviews, with an average rating of 9.10/10. The critical consensus states "Taut, breathtakingly thrilling, and devastatingly intelligent, Das Boot is one of the greatest war films ever made." The film also has a score of 86 out of 100 on Metacritic based on 15 critics indicating "universal acclaim". For its unsurpassed authenticity in tension and realism, it is regarded internationally as pre-eminent among all submarine films."
The character Jack Ryan eventually becomes president. Last I heard they are turning the movie Debt of Honor into a film where the US is attacked by a newly nuclear capable Japan.
As an additional side-note, this was before the common usage of CGI in films... almost all of the under water submarine footage was done with miniatures & models
When this novel first came out, I and a friend of mine, worked at one of the three letter, Intel agencies. One day a delegation from the joint chiefs of staff was being given a tour through the SCIF. One of the admirals in the party noticed that my friend had a copy of the novel on his desk and turn to his colleagues, and said “why, I see that this young man is cleared for the highest materials”.
I had an old neighbor who was USN, retired. He told me a tale of how he was once deployed, and they were having an exercise in the North Atlantic. The weather was terrible, and he saw a man wearing a yellow windbreaker outside in the rain and sea spray. He was watching the proceedings, scribbling furiously in a notebook. He asked who that was. "Oh him. That's Tom Clancy". The man knew his stuff.
The 1911 was desibned as a one-shot man stopper for specific use against fanatic bandits in the Philipine Islands after other side arms proved ineffective. It was my duty side arm while in the Navy. Good job guys!
The .45 ACP was crafted to provide the same energy as the classic .45 Colt black powder round, which in turn had the same energy as the regulation load of a Colt 1860 Army percussion revolver, which in turn was created to emulate the Colt 1848 Old Model Army (the Dragoon). Which was designed specifically to bring down a horse on the first shot.
A "modern" submarine film comparable to this one is "Hunter Killer," a 2018 film starring Gerard Butler as the commander of a Virginia class submarine conducting missions near Russia in present day.
Fun fact: Tim Curry is the son of Royal Navy Chaplain. Other submarine/underwater movies worth watching are Das Boot and The Abyss (the Director's Cut completely changes the the film). The other Jack Ryan movies are 'Patriot Games', 'Clear And Present Danger' (starring Harrison Ford) and 'The Sum of All Fears' (starring Ben Affleck).
When the bomber dropped the torpedo they were trying to kill them, no friends involved. It was Captain Rameus's skill that kept them alive. The story of if Soviet Fleet really wanted to kill them they would be dead was just a cover story for the crew.
As usual, the books are So much better than the movies.. After watching the movie I got into a deep dive of Tom Clancy's novels. Man they were fantastic to be honest. I had the honor of meeting him one day in 94. Rest in Peace. I had just finished reading "Without Remorse". We spoke mainly about that book because I grew up not far from many of the places he wrote about. I was amazed at the level of details of my part of town so vividly. His memories were that precise. Sadly, the movie version was nearly unfamiliar to most everything in the novel. Red October is a really good film though. Although so many pieces had to be cut or changed from Clancy's work
There was no one on Remeus's side. The torpedo was intended to kill them, but it was his skill that saved them. The "If they really were shooting at us we would be dead by now" statment was just a story for the crew.
10:52 The microphones that submarines use to listen for sounds in the ocean are 1) Not pointing backwards, because 2) Even if they were, all they'll hear is their own propellor. There's a way around this: You can drag along microphones on a tow cable a few hundred feet behind you, but you get penalties in maneuvering and speed when you string out that towed array.
The movie takes place in the early 1980's. I was serving aboard a Knox class frigate at the time as a Quartermaster. Unlike in other branches a Quartermaster in the Navy is someone who specializes in navigation. We were an anti submarine warfare platform. We hunted submarines. This was set in the North Atlantic which is unofficially considered America's ocean. One thing that makes me laugh is that the Soviet surface fleet gets underway immediately. It would take us a minimum of two days to get steam pressure up high enough to get underway. Also, at this time, the side arm of the U.S. Navy is the Colt 45, so you guys are absolutely correct it is the M1911 Colt 45. Also also the submarines and the carriers hey do much attention but it's the frigates and destroyers that protect the carriers from the submarines.
The other Harrison Ford movie was Patriot Games. Last one was Ben Affleck playing Jack Ryan: The Sum of All Fears. All are good. Little side that someone might have mentioned, Tom Clancy was a minor role actor in this movie. 😉
The Hunt for Red October is based in part on the true story of Chester M. "Whitey" Mack (1931-2008), who was the first commander of the Sturgeon-class attack submarine USS Lapon in the late 1960s. (His nickname isn't a racial thing, but a reference to his hair color.) When the Russians launched their new Yankee-Class nuclear missile submarines in 1969, the US Navy had no idea of their capabilities. Along with other subs, Whitey Mack and Lapon headed for the Barents Sea with orders to learn what they could about the Yankee-Class boats. The Lapon found a Yankee on the sonar, lost track of it, estimated where it would be, found it again, and then followed it for 47 days straight. They learned everything the US Navy wanted to know about the boat and its practices, even recognizing when different officers were running the sub. A New York Times story at the time leaked the juicy news that the US Navy was actively shadowing a Soviet sub, and for 24 hours afterwards the Soviet skipper went nuts, doing every kind of possible maneuver to make sure nobody was following him, but he never detected the Lapon. Although the term "Crazy Ivan" didn't appear until 1970, it refers to a sub making abrupt turns in order to see whether anything is in its baffles, the blind zone hidden behind the sub's own engine and propeller noise. When the Lapon finally broke off to return home, the Navy sent a message to all subs in the Atlantic: "Get out of the way. Whitey's coming through." On returning home to Norfolk, the Lapon was awarded the Presidential Unit Commendation for extraordinary heroism, and Mack received the Distinguished Service Medal, the highest peace-time award the Navy had. Basil Poledouris's score in this film is epic and beautiful, and gets the heart racing at all the right moments. Since you also watch classic Star Trek, you might find it interesting that Basil played a red-shirt in several episodes. I think he was one of the security team killed by the cloud creature in the episode "Obsession" from December 1967.
Fun fact...McTiernan uses a somewhat similar language trick in his later film The 13th Warrior, which is definitely underrated and worth reacting to. It involves Norsemen and is a movie I am almost positive you will all love. And something to keep in mind about the Ramius character's Scottish accented Russian...the character was born and raised Lithuanian, and for all we know, Lithuanians could sound Scottish when they speak Russian. Probably not...but it is certainly a fine explanation for why Connery's standard Scottish lilt is not an issue at all. LOL And let me tell you, if you guys really like the Jonesy character, in the book that character is ten times cooler than in the film...IMHO. 👍
Ah yes, The 13th Warrior. aka Mohammad does Beowulf. "and for all we know, Lithuanians could sound Scottish when they speak Russian" Lithuanians sound like eastern Europeans - just like western Russians where most of the population lives. Lithuania is fairly close to Russia, most countries in its orbit have similar sounding languages and accents.
I hope you show these guys the movies House Of Games (1994), Boiler Room (2000), and Maverick (1994). Maybe they'll learn some lessons that will teach them to be cautious.
I live in area w/ large US Navy presence (Hampton Roads VA); my friends who are submariners say Hunt for Red October is a comedy. If you want to see a realistic submarine movie, watch Das Boot.
Thumb Up #56! 👍 You're welcome! Thanks! 😊 Notes: I read the novel because of the movie. My copy had the movie poster as the book cover. Paperback, I guess. "Flight of the Intruder" I also read because of the movie. In the novel, it is more apparent that it is about Jack Ryan's friend, whereas in the movie, you wouldn't know it! 😉
I was thinking you had not seen it at all. But that makes sense that you had not seen it in 25+ years that made it almost like a new reaction. Very good film. Lots of action and suspense.
Only one minute in & hitting like already; Tom Clancy…Rainbow Six. Fantastic book, probably in my top 3 of Clancy behind Clear & Present Danger & the one that started it all, Red October. (& because of Sean Connery, James Earl Jones & Fred Thompson) oh, & I wish a there was a Rainbow Six movie, true to the book of course!
Russia, Soviet Union, same thing back then. Yeah, technically the USSR was a bunch of "nations" with their own representation on the politburo. But the reality is that there was only Russia and its servant empire. Russians completely controlled all levels of the Soviet central government, Russian was the only language to be taught in schools regardless of what Soviet Republic they were in, the Soviet military was commanded only by Russians at the higher levels, all aspects of Soviet life in each Republic were expected to follow the Russian model with local ethnic culture suppressed.
Hey am glad that you are back with the crew and are doing a reaction to such a great movie i didn't saw this movie when it first came out i actually saw for the first time a couple of months ago and i was happy and sad happy that i finally got see it and sad that it took me this long to watch it
I was born the same year Star Trek The Next Generation aired. This was one of my favorite childhood movies to sit and watch in grade school. I bought and read the original novel by Tom Clancy in seventh grade. I like both versions. Yes, that was Gates MacFadden starring in a cameo as Jack Ryan's wife.
Yesn't. As a sub movie it's better, but they are very different movies overall in tone and genre - so not directly comparable. HfRO is more like a spy thriller with sub scenes than a straight up sub film. Also Crimson Tide is NOT a Cold War movie. It is set after the fall of the Soviet Union during the 1st Chechen War.
Fun facts first the crew of the Red October were actual Russians who had just immigrated to the US. The reason Ramius is defecting is because he is upset with the way things are in Russia. His wife died of a disease easily treated with antibiotics unfortunately the antibiotics that were given were just water. the person that was manufacturing those antibiotics screwed up but because he was the son of a high ranking official he was never disciplined for his mistake.
There were lots of details in the book that obviously couldn’t be squeezed into a two-hour film. The screenwriter did a great job of boiling down the book to a fantastically tight script that does retain a lot of the book’s plot. Some of the stuff that didn’t make it: the Americans were on board with Jack much earlier and they put a very elaborate decoy strategy into play, including a faux Red October that they really did blow up, the trip back to America from the spot in the Atlantic where the Russian crew was offloaded onto US Navy ships lasted days and the saboteur wasn’t discovered until midway through that journey, and when the Russian crew was brought back to the US before being returned to the Soviets, the US seeded their “escorts” with Russian-speaking experts in persuading Soviets to defect, so that a few of the lowest-ranking decided to stay behind in America. In later books, we find out that Jones went into the private sector and made a mint working for defense contractors, and Ramius ended up living in retirement in the Caribbean.
"Mark Ramsey", Ramius' new identity, makes a few cameos in subsequent books as well. I always appreciated that Clancy did not forget all of his interesting characters after their time in the spotlight was over.
Small historical inaccuracy: At 12:20 you can hear the word "Stalin" as the sailors are singing the Soviet anthem, this version of the song was no longer used after 1953 as part of de-Stalinization. The USSR was still led by cruel and oppressive communist bureaucrats to be sure, but they realized they had to separate themselves from Stalin if they wanted to maintain their power.
" Das Boot " from 1981,The Directors Cut,German subtitles. A WWII war film from a German perspective. According to many professional submariners, the most realistic and exciting Submarin Movie ever made. This is also the view of many other people on this planet. Greetings, nice reactions
At the start when Skip Tyler is describing the new Russian drive and you said 'they are already in American waters' due to what Sonarman Jones on the USS Dallas said...ya have that a hair backwards hoss. First, technically a nation only has legal jurisdiction or sovereignty out 12 miles from its coasts. (Although driving a ballistic missile submarine that close to the coast during the Cold War would be seen as an Act of War. Cuba is a little over 100 miles from Florida and that nearly started a Nuclear War in the 1960's) Second the USS Dallas is deep in Barents Sea of the North Coast of the Soviet Union (east of Finland) they are watching specifically for Soviet SSBN as they leave their home ports. (Note USS Dallas does not carry SLBMs and I am fairly sure they are a bit more than 12 miles from the Russian Coast.)
Gorbachev was in Berlin, on the 9th November 2014, attending a concert to celebrate/commemorate the 25th anniversary of the fall of the wall. I was at that concert. It was pretty 😎
Read the book. You won't want to go to bed till you finish it. The book explains all the Naval jargon, as well as giving the background stories: the needless death of Ramius's wife; the selection of the officers, etc.
In the book before he was the president, he had been a federal prosecutor on organized crime. He thought to himself how similar the Russians were to the crime bosses he tried in court.
Fun fact. This movie is based on Tom Clancy's book. And in the book the Americans did one more impressive stunt making the Soviets look like complete fools. They took a part of nuclear missile from The Red October and the men operating an american rescue sub took a Soviet general to the bottom of the ocean to the supposed wreakage of The Red October. While there, the operator of rescue sub took out the real part from the basket under his sub and made it look like he picked it up from the bottom. And the presented it to the general who reported to the government of USSR that he have seen it himself that this part was on the bottom of the ocean. And also after the American took everything out from The Red October, the bare hull was sunk in this very place.
Fun Facts: Unlike on American boomers, which require two missile keys to launch (see: Crimson Tide), the Soviets' SOP required five. But Clancy couldn't know this because it was, you know, a secret. Also, unknown to Tom Clancy (or anyone else in the West at the time) the Typhoon submarine has many independent pressure hulls (it's basically two subs in one external hull that share a CIC), and the missile silos are between the two forward hulls, and are thus completely inaccessible from within the sub while submerged.
Fun fact..... Gates MacFadden (Beverly Crusher from ST: TNG) was Jack's wife in the beginning of the film in a minor blink and you will miss it side player.
I understand the movie that got made doesn’t follow the story real well but I think one of the best of Tom Clancy’s books is Without Remorse. This is the origin story John Clark an on going character in the stories with Jack Ryan. The movie and the story match up about as well as The Executioner and The Punisher do. Kinda in the same family but that’s about it.
Mark 20:44. In retrospect, they would be mere submersibles now rather than full-fledged submarines. Our first experimental prototype was the USS Turtle in the Revolutionary War! Later on, we had the USS Alligator while the CSA had their C.S. Hunley, to name but two. ⚓️ They were either peddle powered or hand cranked!
Respect to your knowledge, but just to nitpick, there was no USS Turtle. There were no United States Ships until long after there was a United States. It was just named the Turtle. Same with the Alligator. USS designations came 130 years later.
@mikearmstrong8483 , well, thanks for the clarifications! I was just repeating what I had read. I guess those were belated designations. 🤔 But they most definitely weren't "HMS" or "CSS"!
@mikearmstrong8483 oh look! It has been changed! I guess "American" was replaced with "USS" in my memory? 🤔 en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turtle_(submersible)&action=edit§ion=0
@mikearmstrong8483 okay. There were four that shared this name, and the fourth is the pertinent one. en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USS_Alligator&action=edit§ion=0
Somewhat right. Red October is 650 feet long. USS Wasp (CV-7) was 688 feet due to treaty limitations. USS Langley (CV-1), was 542 feet. Other American fleet aircraft carriers were 730 feet or longer. This isn't counting the "escort carriers" (the Bogue class was only 465 feet long) . The Japanese had several aircraft carriers that were only 590-600 feet long.
Great video! Awesome movie choice. Although the actual distance a submarine can detect noise is classified, I learned in science class that sounds travels 4 times faster in water than in air because the molecules are closer together. Crazy!
This movie has one of my favorite movie quotes about politicians ever: “I’m a politician, which means I’m a cheat and a liar, and when I’m not kissin’ babies, I’m stealin’ their lollipops.”
"BUT I also keep my options open."
And when Andrei comes calling, literally hat-in-hand, Jeffrey Pelt is enjoying some delicious candy.
Said all politicians everywhere...😂😂😂
I think one of the most poignant descriptions of the Cold War was by Ramius in this film: "A war with no battles, no monuments... only casualties."
That is accurate..the only thing I would point out that there were several 'proxy skirmishes/ police actions/battles...what have you.....funded (either outright or clandestinely) by the U.S.S.R. and the United States....
There was definitely that.
I am, of course, nitpicking....
It is one of my favorite quotes from the movie as well.
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Mark 26:40. Haha! His "Jurassic Park" character is found in Montana! 😃
19:55, love this moment when the Admiral tells the Captain of the Enterprise, chill he is one of us. Ryan just never got his chance to serve in uniform. But he is still out here doing his part.
Sam Neil shared a story about Sean Connery in this movie. He explained that Connery's famous Scottish accent was very recognizable even though he was supposed to be Russian. The director got him vocal coaches, lots of practice at the accent and multiple takes, but none of it was working.
Finally Sean Connery got fed up with it and exclaimed angrily to the director "You don't understand! I'm Sean Fucking Connery! You'll hire an entire Scottish crew so I'll blend in!"
And Sam Neill's last words are " I would liked to have seen Montana" and the same actor's first scend in Jurrasic Park is set in Montana
Mark 6:24. Connery saying, "You have the conn." is funny! 😆
It's also funny when I'm viewing the video, and I get notifications about replies to this video from you guys, and suddenly, I have two separate windows open on the same video. That's never happened to me before! 😆
24:30 no, they were really shooting at them. But they brought the submarine so close to the rock wall, it confused the torpedo and it hit the wall instead of the ship. The crewman is panicking, so to calm things down, Sam Neils character pulls a story.
But the reality was, Sean Connery's character just saved everyones life with a risky manouver that paid off. :)
No, no, I mean, nearly, but not quite. The torpedo cannot see the cliff face because it is not making any noise, what blinds it is reversing the engine and making a HUGE cloud of noise .
@@Belzediel I don't think that is the case here. 🙂
True, some torpedoes home in on noise, but this one clearly uses an active sonar guidance system, thus the pings we hear.
The reversal of the starboard proppeler is done in order to help turn the vessel faster to avoid crashing into the wall. ☺
@@JanGaarni OK, just so we're clear, you think this torpedo is using sonar instead of sonar.
And you think a submarine can turn quicker than a torpedo.
@@Belzediel this is a movie, NOT real life. 🤣
I'm just judging by what is shown, not if it's possible or not. 😜
@@JanGaarni You're not, though, that is just a lie.
11:07 The keys have to be turned at the same time and are widely spaced apart. No one person could turn both at the same time.
Mark 5:42. The text is...
USS DALLAS
LOS ANGELES CLASS ATTACK SUB
100 MILES NORTHWEST OF POLIJARNY INLET
That would be in the periphery of the Atlantic Ocean. ⚓️
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Rainbow 6 refers to the team name from the book the games were originally based off. They were called "Rainbow" because they came from all over the world. The "6" is the leader, John Clark. Remember in Band of Brothers when Winters tells Luz to use the radio in one scene, you hear Luz say Easy 6 calling Easy CP. He was saying Easy Leader calling command.
Id do bad things for R6 movie it has one best interrogation scenes ever. Clark and Ding playing Good cop bad cop with the IRA guy is just funny as hell Ding just goes full LA Gang banger mode on on the guy and Clark is just i cant stop him we he gets like this... soo good
Cool factoid the Senator is played by Richard Jordan. He's been in two other scifi movies in the past. He was in Logan's Run as Francis 6 and Duncan Idaho in the original dune movie from 1984. After this movie came out Tom Clancy got a visit from the CIA about how he got the Soviet sub controls right. Oh the Enterprise carrier has been retired but there are plans to make the next Ford Class carrier to be called Enterprise. Its designation will be CVN 80. In my honest opinion there should always be a ship in the US Navy called Enterprise.
All these years I never made the connection between Dune and Logans Run. Usually Im able to place the faces but not this time., Thanks for that.
@@clearsmashdrop5829 Oh no prob, when I first saw it too I didn't either. I took many years of rewatches to know it too.
You made a "Star Trek" reference. Did you notice that, although it was just a small scene at the beginning of the film, Jack Ryan's wife was played by Gates McFadden, Dr. Beverly Crusher on "Star Trek The Next Generation"?
CSS Hunley 1864 ... first two crews drown during trials. Third crew successfully made the first submarine kill on USS Housatonic but the spar-torpedo blast killed them too. Sub was found and raised in 2000, complete autopsy showed the crew died instantly from hemorrhage caused by the shock wave.
the guy playing cheif of the boat -C.O.B. is the director of the movie
COB wrote the movie not directed it.
Mark 16:28. Aha! You know that they're being emotional when they begin smoking within the confines of a submarine! It makes the air scrubbers work extra hard to be rid of the smoke!
There was a old spoof of this movie titled "Going Under" where in some places it was translated to "The Hunt for Pink November" (1991). Movie was really silly.
I would recommend though to watch "Down Periscope" - a submarine comedy starring Kelsey Grammer (1996).
There's a WWII sub movie called "Operation Petticoat" (1959) with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis that features a literal pink submarine (she was attacked and driven out of port while the sub was still wearing her primer coat).
Tom Clancy is a serious authority on military, politics and espionage. The Sum of All Fears has a great audio commentary by him and the director and Tom points out EVERYTHING the director got wrong and why. And he debunks surveillance capabilities of the nature "If he farts we'll know when and for how long". Intel is not that detailed nor does it need to be. What the enemy is up to is far more obvious and not the big secret movies have taught us and much of it can be discovered without hidden microphones or cameras.
Actually the first submarine was actually used during the Revolutionary War. A submarine called the Turtle a one man submersible attempted and failed to attack the HMS Eagle in New York harbor. The sub attempted to attach a gunpowder torpedo to the hull but failed.
I saw a documentary on it. Quite impressive
The submarine CSS Hunley sunk a Union ship in 1864 during the Civil War.
Movie K19-Widowmaker is a more realistic movie about the Soviet navy.
Sean Connery does his own Scottish accent in EVERY role! 😁
When this movie came out my sons were in high school. They and many of their friends were so excited. They all read the book and even standing in line for the movie they were reading as fast as they could. Great movie, I’ve watched many times.
Great submarine warfare movies: Run Silent, Run Deep; The Enemy Below; Das Boot.
Das Boot is brilliant. Also 'Grey Lady Down' is quite good
@@elunedlaine8661 As well as Crimson Tide.
When Dasha reacted to this flick, she said most of the spoken Russian was poorly done. Alec Baldwin, Sean Connery and the Russian sailor that greeted them at the ladder got their Russian right.
she also said in response to Sean Connery's "I give us one chance in 3" by stating "that's still pretty good odds" which to me is just about the most Russian thing I've ever heard.
@@adamskeans2515 Great observation!! One like and five gold stars!! Well done!!
To be expected - the named actors on the poster would get the most attention from the language coaches.
Connery (I love him!) has terrible Russian. I don't remember Dasha's reaction too well, but I doubt she said that Connery's Russian was any good. I have no idea what he's supposed to be saying. They even had to dumb down the dialogue for him, so that instead of "vy gavarite po-russki" (which in the subtitles is translated as "you speak Russian") he says what sounds like "nu, po-russki", which doesn't make much sense, it's just, "well, in Russian." Baldwin's Russian is somewhat OK for an American movie from 1990. Only the sailor on the ladder is good, I suspect he's a native speaker.
On a separate note, an actor who had AMAZING Russian was Robin Williams in Moscow on Hudson.
Gave him straight up the Stewie Griffin head turn when he started humming along with the anthem. "COMMIE!!!"
Hahaha trust me, I would suck as a spy. I would reload the slider on my M4 on the side and immediately get f****ed
My favorite line from this movie is when Ramius asks Ryan "You parle ruski" (You speak Russian.) Jack replies in Russian "A little. It is wise to study the ways of ones adversary. Don't you think?" and Ramius replies in English "It is"
Which is fine but what Connery says is 'Your Russian is good.'
@@Belzediel interesting.... I watch "Dasha Reacts" and she always tries to translate the Russian in movies when the subtitles are wrong. Or sometimes she says "I have no idea what they just said" even when there are subtitles.
@@RedmoonIndustries I'm familiar with Dascha too, but, that's what he says. It may well be an idiom, technically he says 'well flowing Russian' but the dialogue trips over it. It's a very minor point, but it is a stumble.
My favorite line is, "The Russians don't take a dump son without a plan".
Fun facts!:
The transition from the characters speaking their native language to English is also Clear And Present Danger.
The novel Hunt For Red October was published before Patriot Games, though in a timeline of events they are the other way.
This movie not only has James Bond, it also has Darth Vader!
At least Patriot Games got Han Solo
And of course Clear And Present Danger has Solo and Darth Vader in the same room.
Richard Jordan was great as Jeffrey Pelt. This was one of his last film roles, he would pass 3 years later (1993) of brain cancer at age 56. Such a loss.
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Tom Clancy’s FIRST Novel (and first one filmed, 1990).
Alec Baldwin was unknown actor for films, this introduced him to public.
Sam Neill would follow this film with Jurassic Park (1993).
John McTiernan (director) filmed this after Die Hard !
Wow, we were not aware. RIP
@@RKnights He would appear in the film, Gettysburg (1993, Ted Turner’s film project) - after his death.
He played Brigadier General Lewis Armistead. As part of Pickett’s charge, Armistead’s brigade reached the farthest point of the charge. Historians refer to this as the “high-water mark” of the Confederacy.
Armistead’s uncle, George, was commander that defended Fort McHenry from British during War of 1812.
Okay, gents. I know the last thing you need is more recommendations, but, since you like submarine movies, here are a couple that are damned good.
1. Das Boot (pronounced "boat"). Very realistic WWII movie on a German sub. It's nothing less than f#cking amazing!
2. Ice Station Zebra. Cool, plot-twisty cold-war thriller that I absolutely love! (Stars Rock Hudson, Ernest Borgnine, and British actor Patrick McGoohan (who starred in the British TV show The Prisoner--which I recommended elsewhere and is a MUST SEE program as well!)
Guys, hi! Bram Stoker and Mary Shelly are two people who participated in a bet competition that resulted in his "Dracula" novel and her novel, "Frankenstein". I don't recall the others. Well, inspired by that, some people came up with a competition to make submarine movies. "The Abyss" and this movie are two of the results. I don't recall the others. 🤔
I wonder 😊
The abyss is great
@@RKnights me too! 🤔
@@RKnights yes it is! 👍
The CSA Hunley was a submarine used by the confederacy during the civil war. She was lunched on February 17 1864 & lost the same day. She was found in 2000 & now is persevered in a museum. She was raised in August of 2000. Another historic moment is the raising of the Union Ironclad USS Monitor. They raise the turret & engine of the ship. The remains of the ship are still on the ocean floor.
Ahhh the 1990s - the GRESTEST decade for movies! Add this film to the DOZENS of other BRILLIANT films made during the golden decade. I really miss the 1990s. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for spending some time with us :-)
..... *cough* .... _1980's was greatest movie decade_ ..... *cough* ......
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Sam Neill's next movie was Jurassic Park. His character, Alan Grant, was living in Montana.
Mark 43:12. Hey! You showed us the plush bear, but not the wife and child! Cheryl Gates McFadden got to be the wife/mother in this movie because she had been let go from her role in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" as "Doctor Beverly Howard Crusher, MD"! So she got to do a few movies before they brought her back into the fold! 🖖
When Harrison Ford takes over, the wife is played by actress Ann Archer, and the daughter is new too.
Alec Baldwin makes a good Superhero too as a live-action version of "The Shadow"!
I got so used to his looks as the host of "Match Game" that I forgot that he used to look like he does in this movie! 😂
I read somewhere that it takes like five missile keys to launch nukes on a Russian boat. They don't / didn't trust their people. Still, the closing lines of the HRO novel are thought provoking. Admiral Greer meets Jack as he disembarks, and Jack hands him the Red October's missile keys. "You can end the world with those".
If you want to see one of the GREATEST, if not THE greatest submarine movie, Das Boot (The Boat) about a WWII Uboat and its daily life experience during WWII. The Book was written from the author's experiences aboard a Uboat, and the Book was dramatized in to the movie.
I agree wholeheartedly! I was in college when I saw Das Boot in its initial release. I don't think words can convey how tense, riveting, and engrossing that movie is.
The Wikipedia article on Das Boot in the Critical Response section states:
"Today, the film is seen as one of the greatest German films. On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film received an approval rating of 98% based on 55 reviews, with an average rating of 9.10/10. The critical consensus states "Taut, breathtakingly thrilling, and devastatingly intelligent, Das Boot is one of the greatest war films ever made." The film also has a score of 86 out of 100 on Metacritic based on 15 critics indicating "universal acclaim". For its unsurpassed authenticity in tension and realism, it is regarded internationally as pre-eminent among all submarine films."
The character Jack Ryan eventually becomes president. Last I heard they are turning the movie Debt of Honor into a film where the US is attacked by a newly nuclear capable Japan.
There was a sub used in the Revolutionary war also. Basically, two wooden kegs connected together and a man sitting inside.
I saw a documentary on this. It would make for an interesting scene in a movie if not an entire movie
As an additional side-note, this was before the common usage of CGI in films... almost all of the under water submarine footage was done with miniatures & models
It looks incredible
Yep. And as I recall from a "making of" segment once...that the underwater shots were in a smoke-filled enclosure to mimic water. :)
THE SUM OF ALL FEARS is another good one.
When this novel first came out, I and a friend of mine, worked at one of the three letter, Intel agencies. One day a delegation from the joint chiefs of staff was being given a tour through the SCIF. One of the admirals in the party noticed that my friend had a copy of the novel on his desk and turn to his colleagues, and said “why, I see that this young man is cleared for the highest materials”.
I had an old neighbor who was USN, retired. He told me a tale of how he was once deployed, and they were having an exercise in the North Atlantic. The weather was terrible, and he saw a man wearing a yellow windbreaker outside in the rain and sea spray. He was watching the proceedings, scribbling furiously in a notebook. He asked who that was. "Oh him. That's Tom Clancy". The man knew his stuff.
The U.S.S Enterprise is the first Nuclear powered aircraft carrier as well the name of the first moonraker and clipper ship!
The 1911 was desibned as a one-shot man stopper for specific use against fanatic bandits in the Philipine Islands after other side arms proved ineffective. It was my duty side arm while in the Navy. Good job guys!
It takes a lot to put down someone hyped up on chewing coca leaves. Still fighting with a fatal wound, but if you knock him down he can't get back up.
The .45 ACP was crafted to provide the same energy as the classic .45 Colt black powder round, which in turn had the same energy as the regulation load of a Colt 1860 Army percussion revolver, which in turn was created to emulate the Colt 1848 Old Model Army (the Dragoon). Which was designed specifically to bring down a horse on the first shot.
A "modern" submarine film comparable to this one is "Hunter Killer," a 2018 film starring Gerard Butler as the commander of a Virginia class submarine conducting missions near Russia in present day.
Fun fact: Tim Curry is the son of Royal Navy Chaplain.
Other submarine/underwater movies worth watching are Das Boot and The Abyss (the Director's Cut completely changes the the film).
The other Jack Ryan movies are 'Patriot Games', 'Clear And Present Danger' (starring Harrison Ford) and 'The Sum of All Fears' (starring Ben Affleck).
Other movies about the Cold War I hope you guys watch are Fail Safe (1964) and No Way Out (1987).
When the bomber dropped the torpedo they were trying to kill them, no friends involved. It was Captain Rameus's skill that kept them alive.
The story of if Soviet Fleet really wanted to kill them they would be dead was just a cover story for the crew.
As usual, the books are So much better than the movies.. After watching the movie I got into a deep dive of Tom Clancy's novels. Man they were fantastic to be honest.
I had the honor of meeting him one day in 94. Rest in Peace. I had just finished reading "Without Remorse". We spoke mainly about that book because I grew up not far from many of the places he wrote about. I was amazed at the level of details of my part of town so vividly. His memories were that precise.
Sadly, the movie version was nearly unfamiliar to most everything in the novel.
Red October is a really good film though. Although so many pieces had to be cut or changed from Clancy's work
Only way to faithfully adapt the novel is to make it a TV miniseries.
Do it.
I'm 100% with you on that @@BogeyTheBear
There was no one on Remeus's side. The torpedo was intended to kill them, but it was his skill that saved them. The "If they really were shooting at us we would be dead by now" statment was just a story for the crew.
10:52 The microphones that submarines use to listen for sounds in the ocean are 1) Not pointing backwards, because 2) Even if they were, all they'll hear is their own propellor.
There's a way around this: You can drag along microphones on a tow cable a few hundred feet behind you, but you get penalties in maneuvering and speed when you string out that towed array.
I was a teen when this came out and lived on a Navy base. When this came out the theater was standing room only for a while.
The movie takes place in the early 1980's. I was serving aboard a Knox class frigate at the time as a Quartermaster. Unlike in other branches a Quartermaster in the Navy is someone who specializes in navigation. We were an anti submarine warfare platform. We hunted submarines. This was set in the North Atlantic which is unofficially considered America's ocean. One thing that makes me laugh is that the Soviet surface fleet gets underway immediately. It would take us a minimum of two days to get steam pressure up high enough to get underway. Also, at this time, the side arm of the U.S. Navy is the Colt 45, so you guys are absolutely correct it is the M1911 Colt 45. Also also the submarines and the carriers hey do much attention but it's the frigates and destroyers that protect the carriers from the submarines.
The other Harrison Ford movie was Patriot Games. Last one was Ben Affleck playing Jack Ryan: The Sum of All Fears. All are good. Little side that someone might have mentioned, Tom Clancy was a minor role actor in this movie. 😉
The Hunt for Red October is based in part on the true story of Chester M. "Whitey" Mack (1931-2008), who was the first commander of the Sturgeon-class attack submarine USS Lapon in the late 1960s. (His nickname isn't a racial thing, but a reference to his hair color.) When the Russians launched their new Yankee-Class nuclear missile submarines in 1969, the US Navy had no idea of their capabilities. Along with other subs, Whitey Mack and Lapon headed for the Barents Sea with orders to learn what they could about the Yankee-Class boats. The Lapon found a Yankee on the sonar, lost track of it, estimated where it would be, found it again, and then followed it for 47 days straight. They learned everything the US Navy wanted to know about the boat and its practices, even recognizing when different officers were running the sub. A New York Times story at the time leaked the juicy news that the US Navy was actively shadowing a Soviet sub, and for 24 hours afterwards the Soviet skipper went nuts, doing every kind of possible maneuver to make sure nobody was following him, but he never detected the Lapon. Although the term "Crazy Ivan" didn't appear until 1970, it refers to a sub making abrupt turns in order to see whether anything is in its baffles, the blind zone hidden behind the sub's own engine and propeller noise. When the Lapon finally broke off to return home, the Navy sent a message to all subs in the Atlantic: "Get out of the way. Whitey's coming through." On returning home to Norfolk, the Lapon was awarded the Presidential Unit Commendation for extraordinary heroism, and Mack received the Distinguished Service Medal, the highest peace-time award the Navy had. Basil Poledouris's score in this film is epic and beautiful, and gets the heart racing at all the right moments. Since you also watch classic Star Trek, you might find it interesting that Basil played a red-shirt in several episodes. I think he was one of the security team killed by the cloud creature in the episode "Obsession" from December 1967.
Fun fact...McTiernan uses a somewhat similar language trick in his later film The 13th Warrior, which is definitely underrated and worth reacting to. It involves Norsemen and is a movie I am almost positive you will all love.
And something to keep in mind about the Ramius character's Scottish accented Russian...the character was born and raised Lithuanian, and for all we know, Lithuanians could sound Scottish when they speak Russian. Probably not...but it is certainly a fine explanation for why Connery's standard Scottish lilt is not an issue at all. LOL
And let me tell you, if you guys really like the Jonesy character, in the book that character is ten times cooler than in the film...IMHO. 👍
Great film one of Banderas best imo "who taught you our language? I listened"
one of my favorites
I loved the 13th warrior. No one reacts to it. :-(
@@rhuwyn I just typed in "react to the 13th warrior" and at least 6 reactions came up
Ah yes, The 13th Warrior.
aka Mohammad does Beowulf.
"and for all we know, Lithuanians could sound Scottish when they speak Russian"
Lithuanians sound like eastern Europeans - just like western Russians where most of the population lives.
Lithuania is fairly close to Russia, most countries in its orbit have similar sounding languages and accents.
I hope you show these guys the movies House Of Games (1994), Boiler Room (2000), and Maverick (1994). Maybe they'll learn some lessons that will teach them to be cautious.
Great review guys! Just one point is the Russian ambassador's convos are not with POTUS, they are with the Nat'l Security Advisor.
I live in area w/ large US Navy presence (Hampton Roads VA); my friends who are submariners say Hunt for Red October is a comedy. If you want to see a realistic submarine movie, watch Das Boot.
We plan on watching that soon
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Notes: I read the novel because of the movie. My copy had the movie poster as the book cover. Paperback, I guess.
"Flight of the Intruder" I also read because of the movie. In the novel, it is more apparent that it is about Jack Ryan's friend, whereas in the movie, you wouldn't know it! 😉
I was thinking you had not seen it at all. But that makes sense that you had not seen it in 25+ years that made it almost like a new reaction. Very good film. Lots of action and suspense.
Yes it was a long time since I've seen it
"I would have liked to have seen Montana." The best tourism advertisement Montana ever had.
Only one minute in & hitting like already; Tom Clancy…Rainbow Six. Fantastic book, probably in my top 3 of Clancy behind Clear & Present Danger & the one that started it all, Red October. (& because of Sean Connery, James Earl Jones & Fred Thompson) oh, & I wish a there was a Rainbow Six movie, true to the book of course!
One of my all-time favorite movies! More people should react to this one.
Such an awesome movie
Nah it's already pretty common.
Far less people react to Patriot Games or Clear And Present Danger.
Which James Bond? THE James Bond.
Good for him! Russia was just one part of the USSR, like Delaware is one part of the USA! 🫡
Excellent reaction
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Crimson tide is another good submarine movie
The so-called submarines that were used in the civil War called ironclads
Other McTiernan movies you would like. 13th Warrior with Antonio Banderas. And Medicine Man, another film he did with Sean Connery.
Authenticity aside, this is a great flick!!
It holds up
Russia, Soviet Union, same thing back then. Yeah, technically the USSR was a bunch of "nations" with their own representation on the politburo. But the reality is that there was only Russia and its servant empire. Russians completely controlled all levels of the Soviet central government, Russian was the only language to be taught in schools regardless of what Soviet Republic they were in, the Soviet military was commanded only by Russians at the higher levels, all aspects of Soviet life in each Republic were expected to follow the Russian model with local ethnic culture suppressed.
Hey am glad that you are back with the crew and are doing a reaction to such a great movie i didn't saw this movie when it first came out i actually saw for the first time a couple of months ago and i was happy and sad happy that i finally got see it and sad that it took me this long to watch it
Suggestion for a follow-up to this movie : Down Periscope!
I was born the same year Star Trek The Next Generation aired. This was one of my favorite childhood movies to sit and watch in grade school.
I bought and read the original novel by Tom Clancy in seventh grade. I like both versions.
Yes, that was Gates MacFadden starring in a cameo as Jack Ryan's wife.
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Next you guys should do Crimson Tide -- an even better Cold War submarine movie :)
Yesn't.
As a sub movie it's better, but they are very different movies overall in tone and genre - so not directly comparable.
HfRO is more like a spy thriller with sub scenes than a straight up sub film.
Also Crimson Tide is NOT a Cold War movie.
It is set after the fall of the Soviet Union during the 1st Chechen War.
Fun facts first the crew of the Red October were actual Russians who had just immigrated to the US.
The reason Ramius is defecting is because he is upset with the way things are in Russia. His wife died of a disease easily treated with antibiotics unfortunately the antibiotics that were given were just water. the person that was manufacturing those antibiotics screwed up but because he was the son of a high ranking official he was never disciplined for his mistake.
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There were lots of details in the book that obviously couldn’t be squeezed into a two-hour film. The screenwriter did a great job of boiling down the book to a fantastically tight script that does retain a lot of the book’s plot.
Some of the stuff that didn’t make it: the Americans were on board with Jack much earlier and they put a very elaborate decoy strategy into play, including a faux Red October that they really did blow up, the trip back to America from the spot in the Atlantic where the Russian crew was offloaded onto US Navy ships lasted days and the saboteur wasn’t discovered until midway through that journey, and when the Russian crew was brought back to the US before being returned to the Soviets, the US seeded their “escorts” with Russian-speaking experts in persuading Soviets to defect, so that a few of the lowest-ranking decided to stay behind in America. In later books, we find out that Jones went into the private sector and made a mint working for defense contractors, and Ramius ended up living in retirement in the Caribbean.
"Mark Ramsey", Ramius' new identity, makes a few cameos in subsequent books as well. I always appreciated that Clancy did not forget all of his interesting characters after their time in the spotlight was over.
Small historical inaccuracy: At 12:20 you can hear the word "Stalin" as the sailors are singing the Soviet anthem, this version of the song was no longer used after 1953 as part of de-Stalinization. The USSR was still led by cruel and oppressive communist bureaucrats to be sure, but they realized they had to separate themselves from Stalin if they wanted to maintain their power.
" Das Boot " from 1981,The Directors Cut,German subtitles. A WWII war film from a German perspective. According to many professional submariners, the most realistic and exciting Submarin Movie ever made. This is also the view of many other people on this planet. Greetings, nice reactions
Sean Connery gave the most important advice of Alec Baldwin's career in this movie. " Be careful, Most things in here don't react well to bullets".
At the start when Skip Tyler is describing the new Russian drive and you said 'they are already in American waters' due to what Sonarman Jones on the USS Dallas said...ya have that a hair backwards hoss. First, technically a nation only has legal jurisdiction or sovereignty out 12 miles from its coasts. (Although driving a ballistic missile submarine that close to the coast during the Cold War would be seen as an Act of War. Cuba is a little over 100 miles from Florida and that nearly started a Nuclear War in the 1960's) Second the USS Dallas is deep in Barents Sea of the North Coast of the Soviet Union (east of Finland) they are watching specifically for Soviet SSBN as they leave their home ports. (Note USS Dallas does not carry SLBMs and I am fairly sure they are a bit more than 12 miles from the Russian Coast.)
Gorbachev was in Berlin, on the 9th November 2014, attending a concert to celebrate/commemorate the 25th anniversary of the fall of the wall.
I was at that concert. It was pretty 😎
Read the book. You won't want to go to bed till you finish it. The book explains all the Naval jargon, as well as giving the background stories: the needless death of Ramius's wife; the selection of the officers, etc.
What could be considered a 'modern' take of this movie, is Hunter-Killer from 2019 I believe. It is highly recommend.
In the book before he was the president, he had been a federal prosecutor on organized crime. He thought to himself how similar the Russians were to the crime bosses he tried in court.
Movie recommendations (1) Star Trek 6 the undiscovered Country (2) Independence Day (3) Airplane 2 (4) The naked gun (5) midway 2019 (6) Battleship 2012 (7) spaceballs (9) Ninja Assassin 2009 (10) Olympus has fallen. (11) Wrongfully Accused.
Fun fact. This movie is based on Tom Clancy's book. And in the book the Americans did one more impressive stunt making the Soviets look like complete fools.
They took a part of nuclear missile from The Red October and the men operating an american rescue sub took a Soviet general to the bottom of the ocean to the supposed wreakage of The Red October. While there, the operator of rescue sub took out the real part from the basket under his sub and made it look like he picked it up from the bottom. And the presented it to the general who reported to the government of USSR that he have seen it himself that this part was on the bottom of the ocean.
And also after the American took everything out from The Red October, the bare hull was sunk in this very place.
Fun Facts: Unlike on American boomers, which require two missile keys to launch (see: Crimson Tide), the Soviets' SOP required five. But Clancy couldn't know this because it was, you know, a secret. Also, unknown to Tom Clancy (or anyone else in the West at the time) the Typhoon submarine has many independent pressure hulls (it's basically two subs in one external hull that share a CIC), and the missile silos are between the two forward hulls, and are thus completely inaccessible from within the sub while submerged.
Fun fact..... Gates MacFadden (Beverly Crusher from ST: TNG) was Jack's wife in the beginning of the film in a minor blink and you will miss it side player.
I understand the movie that got made doesn’t follow the story real well but I think one of the best of Tom Clancy’s books is Without Remorse. This is the origin story John Clark an on going character in the stories with Jack Ryan. The movie and the story match up about as well as The Executioner and The Punisher do. Kinda in the same family but that’s about it.
That sounds interesting. I'm going to have to add that to my Kindle
@@RKnights Without Remorse is a great book. The movie is a piece of garbage that doesn't deserve the name.
Mark 20:44. In retrospect, they would be mere submersibles now rather than full-fledged submarines. Our first experimental prototype was the USS Turtle in the Revolutionary War!
Later on, we had the USS Alligator while the CSA had their C.S. Hunley, to name but two. ⚓️
They were either peddle powered or hand cranked!
Respect to your knowledge, but just to nitpick, there was no USS Turtle. There were no United States Ships until long after there was a United States. It was just named the Turtle. Same with the Alligator. USS designations came 130 years later.
@mikearmstrong8483 , well, thanks for the clarifications! I was just repeating what I had read. I guess those were belated designations. 🤔 But they most definitely weren't "HMS" or "CSS"!
@mikearmstrong8483 oh look! It has been changed! I guess "American" was replaced with "USS" in my memory? 🤔
en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turtle_(submersible)&action=edit§ion=0
@mikearmstrong8483 okay. There were four that shared this name, and the fourth is the pertinent one.
en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USS_Alligator&action=edit§ion=0
@mikearmstrong8483 , ah, okay. The part about Roosevelt!
en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_Ship&action=edit§ion=0
The submarines used in the Civil War were awesome! Victorian, steam punk, death traps, they were! Look em up...they were _super_ cool (imho).
Scariest part of the movie....is when Alec Baldwin is pointing a gun at the cook....we know how he is with guns on movie sets.
Mark ? Supposedly, that submarine is as big as a World War 2 aircraft carrier! If so, it must be one of the smallest ones! ⚓️
Somewhat right. Red October is 650 feet long. USS Wasp (CV-7) was 688 feet due to treaty limitations. USS Langley (CV-1), was 542 feet. Other American fleet aircraft carriers were 730 feet or longer. This isn't counting the "escort carriers" (the Bogue class was only 465 feet long) . The Japanese had several aircraft carriers that were only 590-600 feet long.
@@The_Dudester , exactly!
Great video! Awesome movie choice. Although the actual distance a submarine can detect noise is classified, I learned in science class that sounds travels 4 times faster in water than in air because the molecules are closer together. Crazy!
If the character hates flying then how did he get in Air Force One situation ?
I recommend checking out the original Red Dawn movie
I've never seen this. We will consider it