Better than some, but terrible casting blunders. 60-year-old Sir Sean, already struggling to speak fluently, was particularly unbelievable as a Lithuanian captain (the even less probable idea of having a Lithuanian at the helm of a Really Bad Thing was Clancey's own). And, of course, the hilarious scenes of submariners wearing anachronistic black dress uniforms in their tin can ruined all the suspense of the plot. By 1990 the filmmakers should have known exactly the looks of Soviet submarine interiors and what the submariners wore on duty, but no, they skipped their homework. Das Schlechte Boot.
One of my all time favorite films. Great story with an excellent twist. Great cast. Great script. Just watched it again a week ago. It's one of those movies that I'll never tire of seeing.
Godspeed, James Earl Jones! By far, the best Admiral in the Jack Ryan serious and a great actor. Seemed like a very decent man as well. All of my sympathy is with his friends and family as I would also like to thank them for sharing him with us.
@@Sabotage_Labs I believe @channel_alan was referring to the part of the movie where James Earl Jones told the fire control officer that 'The Admiral' was never on the ship.
I remember back then. I was in the USCG on the CGC Venturous. The "Red October" (a barge with an overlay to look like a submarine on the surface) was docked right behind us at the Coast Guard pier in San Pedro. They were giving our crew a chance to be extras in the movie. I opted out because they wanted us to shave our heads. Sean Connery came aboard our ship (CGC Venturous) for a tour. We were all supposed to be below decks as our Captain showed him around. I was doing some last minute polishing on the bridge when they came up, so I got to shake hands with Sean Connery. I thought I was gonna get in trouble, but the captain just smiled and nothing ever came of it. I know it's weird, but I've remembered and cherished that moment for all these years and still tell that story. I've always been a Sean Connery fan even before that movie.
I was on the Battleship New Jersey stationed in Long Beach, they took a lot of guys from my ship for extras. I was lucky enough to work 3 days on the film. Right after Alec Baldwin lands on the carrier, the next scene is of the interior of the ship, I am the Chief coming down the passageway. Had a few other places I saw myself, but that was the best spot, I'm the only one facing the camera that was following Alec Baldwin. I learned so much about movie making those 3 days. What a great experience.
20 yrs in the US Submarine force here - Scott Glenn's performance is the only one I've ever seen that is true, real and believable. BZ Commander Mancuso!
He rode with a real boat captain, on duty. Was addressed by the crew, as a real captain, and honored his reallife counterpart, in every interview about the film.
I can't fathom how this movie did not win more Oscars. This is still one of the best movies i have ever seen, and i have seen it multiple times i can't count anymore.
And it's a timeless movie in a way. Even now, there's only a couple of things tgat date the movie, the phone Ryan uses, and the car driving to CIA. Otherwise, it's a world most of us will never see
The old diesel boat they used for the interior scenes was the USS Blueback SS-581. How do I know this you might ask, well that's a very easy to answer question, I was stationed on her when they shot those scenes. Three of our enlisted guys were extras cast as russian sailors and one of our officers played the weapons officer on the USS Dallas. A few months after the film debut we decommissioned the Blueback, that was one of the saddest days of my life and the end of the era of USN diesel boats. If you'd like to see the Blueback she is a museum exhibit at the museum of science and industry in Portland Oregon.
Lightning546 wow!! My dad was a submarine so I appreciate this movie, as did my dad. He turned me on to the book before the movie came out. We were excited to see it!
Lightning546...I did see the Blueback at the OMSI. Thank you for your service and my admiration for being able to withstand being cooped up in such a vehicle! I would have freaked out from claustrophobia as soon as the hatch was shut!
Funny they used the USS HOUSTON too? I was on board during the filming up by Port Angeles, they also did some filming at Long Beach because we didn't get enough fog up north!!
Scott Glenn never became a huge movie star, but the man is just consistently excellent in everything he does. His performance in this is subtle but brilliant!
I spent 22 years in the Navy, When Scott Glenn glares down at Jack Balwin after he comes aboard, it was the most believable scene in the movie. I thought "that guy has been in the Navy" . He perfectly captured a CO's scowl .
Absolutely without any questions whatsoever, the highest quality "thing" EVER caught on "film." Absolutely, no doubt. Unbelievable work. God bless. SERIOUSLY.
The lighting scenarios and making the subs slightly different variants, so the audience could recognize the difference on which sub was in the scene, probably made a huge difference in the overall success of Red October. Still my favorite movie of all time
Dot dot dot ...tit tit tit...Oh I'm rusty too. Devlin was our dit dot expert. She ran around in a tennis outfit on Halloween 🎃 it was the Head sweat band...😮
This movie was cast to perfection. I really believe every character was perfectly cast! It is a movie that you can watch on a whim and enjoy it again and again.
😅 surely you jest?! How many Russian sub captains sound like that?! He's supposed to be a good actor, he could have at least attempted to sound a little less like Sean Connery!...prob couldnt afford Tom Hanks!
Honestly though, it makes just as much sense as having them be speaking English WITH a Soviet accent, because if they wanted it to be closer to real life they all would have just been SPEAKING RUSSIAN! lol
I owned this movie on VHS, DVD and now have it on Blu-Ray. I ripped an uncompressed copy of the Blu-Ray so I could have it mobile. If I am waiting on something like an appointment, I will put ear buds in an this is one of my go to movies on my phone. I just keep an eye out for when names are being called :)
One of those movies where, no matter what time it is, no matter how far into it's runtime it is, you just give up everything you were doing and watch right to the end.
Yea the phone at home rang constantly while I watched it the first time on TV so I pulled the jack, I told her month before that the specific day she choose was not the best day to do our wedding on. Afterwards I went to the church but all hell broke loose, Idk why since I told her before! Women..
Great movie I watch once in a while along with Master and Commander. My only nitpicking would be over the Red October's command center. A tad too glamorous but he, it is nitpicking. :-)
its my all time favorite movie. ive watched it hundreds of times, and i can still watch it. alot of mctiernan's stuff is like that for me. like die hard, etc. always comething goin g on, each scene leads to the next, boom boom boom, but not so fast its overwhelming. like batman begins. batman begins was too much, it needed an extra 30 mins of run time or so just to let the movie breathe abit.
I love the commentary on the casting of Greer and particularly the point about him just being a respected Admiral who happened to be black. Exactly how it should be. It's amazing how backwards we've gone in some ways since then.
This documentary omits one of the most important things in the movie (and yet, you can hear it all the way through): the incredible score by Basil Poledouris. I'm very disappointed they couldn't spend a couple of seconds talking about a musical masterpiece that lifts the entire experience to another level.
YES YES YES!!! You made this comment 4 yrs ago and I AM FIRST TO GIVE YOU A REPLY??? Great, great comment by you. I especially liked the mixed chorus/choir singing the Russian national anthem. And during the opening scenes.
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This was in the nineties. Thank Lord of the Rings for the modern extras that accompany movie releases - the amazing people doing the work behind the scenes get much more well deserved recognition these days.
I spent 4 years working and working and living on a submarine. Got to meet and have signed a copy of Clancy's book. Still have it. Once a squid, forever a squid.
I had a first edition. Then I loaned it to one P-3 squadron mate, then another, and eventually did not get it returned. So all I have now is a paperback copy.
ChileExpatFamily we all have our problems, and i believe the more apropos colloquialism is ’bubblehead’; you know the naval version of a cross between a porn star and beauty queen;
Got to go on a nuke when my brother was in New London. Before 9/11 when security got so ratcheted up. Let's just say that the guys thought a girl who was into subs was attractive. I was more jazzed by the technology and atmosphere.
Fun fact from a former submariner friend: That scene where SSN Dallas _"FLEW"_ out of the water on an emergency blow used a _real_ sub, the Captain of which ended up getting in SERIOUS hot water for because it was a much greater ascent angle than the Navy brass was expecting. A bit _too_ realistic!
I guess the "brass" prefer the boat to be sunk if this was a real attack on her. Why the h@3L do they call it an emergency blow? To get the F*&k out of the way of the fish that was fire at you!!!! WHO CARES what ascent angle is when a fish is coming at you!!!
@@darrellhall6622 18,750 tons of displacement making a rapid one way ticket uncontrollable accent at a steep 45° is pretty _hard_ on a boat that big. Sure... it's a big "metal tube", but things still _flex_ and _groan like hell_ from the stress at every bulkhead and fitting in the hull when you shallow up that fast. They're called an "emergency blow" because you're only supposed to do them in an "emergency", that much torque can sometimes cause cracks or blow fittings/valves.
@@kullenberg83 correct, a rapid weight loss program. But how's that? "14,000 tons"? With a surfaced displacement of 16,764 tons/16,499 long tons when the ballast tanks are "empty"? 🤔 Is there a reserve amount ballast that normally is kept on if the tanks aren't blown? Either way is about that of losing the weight of a car or truck...
@@macgyver5108 used the numbers of the above statment, point is that blowing ballast will make the sub lighter. Ballast is alot of weight, easy 10% of deplacment if not more. When i was at sea the ship i was on wsa 12.500 tons with no cargo we had almost 2.200 tons of ballast
Hollywood no longer has directors like him. None of those movies could be made today. Impossible. The very way Hollywood runs today would never even think of making these kinds of movies. It's terrible.
I have a great passion for this movie. I was stationed where they were filming, and I knew some of the 'Russian Sub sailors." Every time I watch this movie, I see the people I know and its quite a unique experience. They also gave us a private screening on the day that it was released. They even used a dive alarm when starting the movie! The tickets they gave us was huge, they were about 12+ inches wide. I only wish I still had it. I lost it somewhere.
I had two connections with Red October: I was the skipper of a sailboat owned by the U.S. Naval Academy, Geronimo. One Saturday, I was warned that an insurance agent from Annapolis was sailing with us and that if he knew I had anything to do with nuclear submarines, he would pick my brains. That was, of course, Tom Clancy, who was a master of detail. Secondly, one of my employees had been in the U.S. Navy and had played a Russian sailor on Red October. He spoke highly of Connery's relationship with extras and other "little people."
Master of detail? I can agree to that. Read the book years ago and I can very much imagine just how very daunting it must have been for the screenwriter to condense that level of detail down to the scale of a movie - beyond the mere remark in this video. It is this very problem that is the reason why (IMO) so many book adaptations fall flat or struggle. The examples where it was pulled off successfully, however, are accordingly cherished by the audience. Hunt for Red October, Lord of the Rings, movies for the ages, really. It takes a special kind of person to be able to put their ego aside and instead of telling the story they want to tell stay true to the source material and leave out as much as necessary and as little as possible from the original.
I was the onset propman on this movie and I vividly remember this scene watching Sean eat pickled herring’s I forgot I was working I could almost taste the herring’s it was amazing to watch him act in person. One of the days I’ll never forget RIP SEAN
The music in this movie is a once in a lifetime event and no mention of it. That score was perfect, absolutely perfect. One thing that stands out and screams. This could actually happen.
I own a NAD Surround Receiver T753, hooked up to a NAD 906 amplifier ( center and rear front and rear left - 3 channels unused ) and a NAD 2200 ( main right and left ) and a NAD 2240 ( effect l + R ) together with a Yamaha Sub, Yamaha NSG 150 main Speakers, NSG 40, NSC 150 and Canton rears. Can U imagine ?
@R.C. Collins - Why the year 2077? As for the movie, "The Hunt for Red October," I think the plot took place in 1984. After all, it was based on a novel by Tom Clancy, the author of his many right-wing fantasy novels.
@ Robert Polanco-who gives a rat's ass about Clancy's politics? He wrote a great novel and it was turned into a great movie. That's all there is to it.
Just a terrific, engrossing story set to film by some talented actors and a talented producer and production crew members, etc. I have watched this again and again and never tire of seeing it.
Two classic foreign quotes about the US Navy: "It's extremely difficult to second guess the American Navy, because the Americans rarely read their doctrine, and don't feel compelled to follow it when they do." -- Admiral of the Soviet Fleet Sergei Gorshkov "The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis." -- Admiral Karl Doenitz
@@davidwise1302 I love those quotes. I'd rather have other countries cry about us than we cry about them. Or as the great boxer Duran said, I'd rather be the hammer than the nail.
Now there's a real man who hardly ever needed any directing or coaching. What a natural. Doesn't hurt having his as the real thing. We can say Senator Thompson was a great one and I was one of the few who helped him explore running for POTUS. How much better he would have been than McCain as a candidate. Hard as the media pushed Obama from obscurity to the limelight, it would have been close or we would have won. Fred also was good in Cape Fear as an attorney.
This has always been one of my top 5 favorites. I still eyeroll though when they show the jet crash on the carrier deck and use footage of a 1950s era F9F Panther. I always thought they could've done better than that for a movie set in the late 70s/early 80s.
@Fau Q , I agree with the disdain for the frequent misuse of "underrated", but the accusation of "moron" is uncalled for. Seems that people these days think that if they like something or someone, that they have to attach the prefix "underrated". Perhaps it is a Freudian means to make themselves look more special buy presenting the notion that only they can see greatness.
@Fau Q ,I only validated your verbiage if you think that anyone who does something you disagree with is a moron. If you truly think that, then I strongly disagree with you. However, we are in agreement about the widespread misuse of "underrated".
@Christoffer Veng I can add to this.... Donald Trump is the most Overrated Moron to ever be classed as a hypocrite! LOL Red October is a great movie, and Darth Vader plays a great part!
James Earl Jones, Sam Neill, Tim Curry, Stellan Skargaard, Joss Ackland, the politician fella from (Secret of My Success- Michael J Fox, Helen OMG Slater 80's 'Oh Yeah' Movie) the Principle from Ferris Beullers day off, lots more actors who were around then and still going in lots of other great flicks now.
Fantastic. The era that it was made in, the special effects of the submarines underwater are almost flawless scenes. What an incredible job of ingenuity!! And to build a set that looks exactly like the inside of an actual submarine, with all working gauges and instruments, incredible!!! When you have to consider that a real nuclear powered submarine costs probably around a half a billion dollars to produce, INCREDIBLE! This film was way ahead of its time in the special effects department.
Man, it's so hard to believe it's been over 33 years since this movie was released!! I was 19 when I saw it in March of 1990, a few weeks before my 20th birthday. My 53rd birthday is a week from today. Where did the time go?!
Scott Glenn is an amazing actor. I think he gets overlooked because the characters he plays are so soft-spoken. I loved him in Vertical Limit, Backdraft and, of course, this movie.
12:16 great story by Glen - while on board a submarine, the commander of it ordered his crew that Glen was to be treated as if equal rank to himself. This involved including addressing both men, and Glen would be told the order by the skipper, who would then repeat it to the men.
True story: I started having panic attacks in large crowds about a year ago. In my head, they would sound like sonar tracking torpedoes and I always stave them off by saying to myself "One ping, Vasili. One ping only, please." And just like that, one ping, and ONLY one ping, and they were gone.
As a Navy vet and son of a career submariner, I have always loved this movie. They nailed the professionalism of both enlisted and officers serving aboard our fleet submarines. Hearing that he shadowed a real Attack class submarine commander and mimicked him makes perfect sense. I also love that the screen writer once cast as the COB, wrote himself into most of the sub scenes! ;-) One thing I would have liked to have seen more of was the interaction of the admiral and captain of the aircraft carrier as well as a few more scenes on the carrier. Hats off to the movie industry for making a great movie and portraying our sailors and intelligence community in a good light. Clancy was always kind to the CIA and other government agencies... I'm glad they accurately portrayed our sailors and their dedication and professionalism. USN ET
Many of the servicemen in the movie were real servicemen who were volunteering their time unpaid. The Navy had a huge hand in this movie and at many points they felt it would be both easier and more genuine to use real service members and I'm glad they did.
what your father could tell you is that the screenwriter may have unwittingly made the part more realistic by writing himself into so many scenes as Chief of the Boat. The COB always seemed to have his nose in everybody's business on the boats. So, having the character in every scene made him more believable as a COB.
Yes, 33 years IS a good test of time in today's environment, but it is totally eclipsed by the 6000-year test of Time claimed by the Bible! In the last 200 years the Bible has had Thousands of People try to disprove it's Historicity, but none have succeeded yet! That's because the "Special Effects" in it were REAL Events, not optical Illusions for the sake of a good story! Nevertheless, I love the Movie for its entertaining value, even if it's eternal value is unlikely.
I'm so glad they used models of the various subs rather than cgi, even if it had been available. Models look more tactile and realistic compared to cgi... especially cgi of the 1990s.
M.r. Moon They did use at least one real sub in this movie.They pulled under a tug boat with it,and the crew member who was in the engine room did not make it out.The sub that they used was the U.S.S. Houston. there is a story on the web about the "accident".
Agreed.. That's one of the things I love about old movies, they didn't have all if this CGI and actually had to put in more effort. I don't mind CGI to a point, but I feel they over do it to the point of looking fake, and they seem to rely on it too much.
This movie was great for a lot of reasons, but underlying all of it was the depth of character given to the Russians. In a lot of movies in this genre, the Russians, or whatever enemy, are portrayed as one-dimensional, cardboard cut-out bad guys. This movie respects the enemies, recognizes their humanity, and is only great because of that. This starts with Ryan's reverence for Ramius and continues through examining the motives of the Russians and exposing the shallowness of some of the Americans when they attempt to argue with Ryan and use tropes when calculating their moves against the Russians. This movie is no jingoist cartoon. It portrays some complex moves across an explosive, grand chessboard by showing the other side as real people. It has it's place as propaganda in the sense that we were supposed to be approaching a new relationship with Russia, so it was now ok to consider the possibility that they are people like us. This movie could not be made today. Still, it's so much truer than other movies in the genre.
Will M: Yes, sort of. Certainly did a believable job of showing how Soviet sailors (even though the Red October submarine in the movie was a LOT MORE SHINY than Tom Clancy ever envisioned when he wrote) may have acted. But the portrayal of the Soviet Ambassador to the US who met with Pelt/R Jordan was really demeaning. But funny, too.
Absolutely agree. You are quite eloquent my friend, and a deep thinker. Those qualities are becoming extremely rare on the internet these days. Thank you.
Yes Doug, it was demeaning, but it needed to be to get the chuckle. They were both politicians after all, not "Regular" people. Demeaning is how politicians play the game. For much too long we have been seeing the Russian people as we see the politicians. They see us the same way. The "Real" Russian people are exactly like us, I have met many of them.
I served with Reed Popovich, an actual Naval Officer who had a small speaking role in this film. He was an amazing guy and even though I've seen this movie dozens of times I still seek it out and rewatch it every year!
- "We have been sabotaged!" - "Who said anything about sabotage?" - (Incredulous look.) "CAPTAIN?!" Only one word, but one of my favorite Tim Curry lines in anything, ever.
When the movie came out, I was a female college student with no military ties or family members.... and yet, I fell in LOVE with this movie. Reminds me that I need to watch it again.
The Hunt for Red October is by far one of my favorite movies of all times and this was a great presentation of what went into making it. I’ve watched it at least fifteen to thirty times, I have it on my digital collection and every now and then when I want to watch submarine movies it’s one of those that must come out first, together with U-571, Das Boot and Crimson Tide, my WWII Wolfpack documentaries, among others.
Tom Clancy's uniqueness was that he spent years getting the details right, by picking the brains of numerous Navy people and in writing his first book, Red October. Many people do not know that he pitched his book to 31 publishers. All turned him down, except the Naval Institute Press, known more for navigation charts and sailing instruction. That press made more its first year with Red October than its previous 10 years. After the success of Red October, those 31 other presses wanted to publish Clancy's work, but he went with the Naval Institute Press for his second book.
It is not the writing. Often when Hollywood gets it's fingers on a book they do horrible things to it. Just read "Sahara" and then watch the "movie loosely based on the characters and ideas in the Clive Cussler novel". Make the same comparison with "Raise the Titanic". While still not perfect it is a LOT closer to the original in feel and spirit
@@mbr5742 no argument on that but that's also a writer issue of turning a book into a screen play. However it's no secret that the studio exects certainly weigh in on projects in how they are written and produced. The biggest issue is inserting political agenda despite the detrimental effect it has on any given project.
One of my favorite films of all time. I have never gotten tired of it, just plain timeless. Tom Clancy is so good at writing that you can almost believe he is writing about a legitimate classified issue. His understanding of this time of cloak-and-dagger counter-intelligence & espionage is genius and makes him a true literary artist.
Yes yes about Clancy. But he was frustrated with Paramount Pictures re: a few things. And I cannot blame him .... give me a reply and I will detail them if you want and if I CAN REMEMBER TO COME BACK TO THIS PAGE .....
There was rumor for a long time that he did a little too well. To the point the CIA had him over for a little chat. I've also heard KGB wanted to talk with him as well, might have hit a bit too close to home for them. Now how true those were, I have my doubts about them, but it makes him look a lot cooler.
@@thunderchaser2042 I heard similar rumors that the govt had questioned Tom Clancy about the details of the book and where he had gotten them. Tom was able to show that all of the technical details that he used had come from publicly available sources and not from classified information. It was those rumors that prompted me to buy the book and read it. I loved the books, and the Red October movie.
My #1 movie of last 30 years.When acting was acting.I met accidentaly Alec Baldwin about 10years, he was visiting in FTL. I recognized him and almost blew his cover so to speak..He put his finger on his lips to signal me to not recognize him. So I didn't, just said."effing luved you in October," and he said."Thanks, that part made my career.Any scene your favorite?"."Yeh," I said, when you got dumped in the water.He laffed and put out his hand to shake mine.Nice,nice man
@@barty8980 airport codes quite often have *nothing* to do with the city name. For example: LGA is a NYC airport. As is JFK. And MSY is the main New Orleans airport.
RonJohn63 True, but many do have a historical relationship to the area or original airport name. LGA stands for La Guardia, named after Mayor La Guardia. MSY stands for Moisant Stock Yards, site of the original Moisant Field in 1946 which evolves into New Orleans International in 1960 and Louis Armstrong in 2001. But the original call letters still stand. MCO is the actual IATA letters for the commercial aviation airport for Orlando, based at the old McCoy Air Force Base, hence MCO. ORL is the Orlando Executive Airport for general and executive aircraft. Here in Los Angeles / Orange County we have John Wayne International in a section of unincorporated Orange County but closest to Santa Ana, where it’s mailing address is, and where the old Santa Ana Army Air field was, hence SNA.
RonJohn63 Also, JFK previously was Idylwild Airport, names after the Idylwild golf course that it displaced in 1939 with call letters IDL. It was renamed Gen. Anderson Airport in 1943, the changed again to New York International Airport, Anderson Field, but still retained IDL and called Idylwild. A month after President Kennedy was assassinated, the airport was renamed John F. Kennedy International and then Mayor Wagner proposed changing the IATA designation to JFK as more recognizable. So many airports had a local area or namesake that influenced the airport code although many have a geographic or city / town origin.
This movie will always be one of my favorite stories because it comes closer to telling the story of our mission as submariners in the time of the Cold War. It leaves you with a sense of some of our work and feel. Thank you.
I used to watch this movie with my older brother on Christmas mornings waiting for our folks to wake up so we could open presents. Great memories and a great movie!! Love it to this day!
Still one of my all time favourite movies. And let's hear it for models and practical effects!!! The movie would not have aged as well as it has if it had used early era CGI compared to those beautiful large scale models
That has a lot to do with the music! And probably also with the fact that it didn't stay very close to the novel. I read it a couple of months ago, and it's the only time I've ever found the book worse than the movie! The Red October was written during the cold war, and what a load of sickening western propaganda and nauseating over-glorification of the USA it is! The Russian characters are mostly evil and/or stupid and are often acting in totally irrational ways. Apart from that the author is mostly concentrating on showing off his own knowledge of countless different types of vessels, weapons etc., and to do so he introduces many more ships and characters than necessary to tell the story. Good thing the movie people cleared up the mess!
@@skakdosmer I don't think you or the 6 blind mice that liked your comment even read the book. Clancy is hardly disrespective to the Russians. Quite the contrary. And your decades late inaccurate attempt at a review failing on all aspects.
Awesome. So awesome. This was a wonderful tribute to a movie I grew up with, due to my Dad being a Navy veteran. I wish this was 5x longer or even more. Love submarine stuff. Those models and that set blew my mind.
There are not too many movies that captivate me. Red October has been an exception. As Sean Connery indicated in the movie about it being a game of chess; this movie was a magnificent display of chess playing. We can thank Tom Clancy for that. I get goose bumps just thinking about this movie. I always love to see how the movie was made, as well. That always fascinates me. I cannot say enough good things about this movie. As someone on this page mentioned to the idea that this was “a thinking man’s movie”. I can’t agree more. 👍
Wow, I'm honestly glad Costner turned down the role. Would have been interesting to see his take on it. But this way, we got both Alec Baldwin as a star as well as Dances With Wolves. Great outcome for everybody.
It's impossible to do a film like this on a small budget. The logistics of this great film must have been ENORMOUS. A monumental task. On the acting, I LOVE the smaller, character roles, like Courtney Vance as the sonar operator. And just watch Scott Glenn. He WAS the US sub captain.
Unions are the first to kill the budget, Teamsters then IATSE all the extra people not needed in the production... I once looked into financing one and it was all a farce and the odds of getting your investment back are less than 50/50.
You wouldn't need a huge budget either though, after seeing how many of the effects were achieved I would wager that most of the budget went on the stellar cast.
@@krashd Of course the majority of the budget went to the stars, what else is new?? Baldwin probably made more than the entire cast put together, outside of Connery, who probably made THREE TIMES was Baldwin did. But do you actually think that these kind of special effects are CHEAP?? You obviously have the experience of a 5-year old.
I'd rather have Pelt than most politicians. At least he admits what he is, but still tries to do what is best for the country. Most politicians wouldn't have given Ryan a chance.
@@kennethcrist443 How true. Most politicians would be worried about just one thing...themselves. Congress is still full if those selfish, self-serving jerks. Regardless of party.
Captain Ramius: “I miss the peace of fishing like when I was a boy. Forty years at sea. A war at sea. A war with no battles, no monuments...only casualties. I widowed her the day I married her. My wife died while I was at sea, you know?” This scene will forever be my favourite scene in this movie. One of my top ten favourite films.
Doug Griggs the scene that darka was describing was when Red October was doing a "Crazy Ivan" around the USS Dallas The one that you're thinking of is the scene at the end when they're hiding Red October in the Penobscot River
I just learned that the sub work was not underwater! Never had a clue until right now that it was miniature model work. That's Oscar-worthy. Great team.
I would think that visibility in the ocean is nowhere near that far. There is also the issue of how much light as well. Though, the "underwater" view in the movie gives a nice visual effect of what is going on.
At 21:58 they say they were given cinematic liscence on the view distances. They say the Red October is 600 feet long. There is a record for underwater vision, where a specific object was seen 79 meters (259 feet) away. That is half of the length of the Red October but still impressive.
A god damned cook! From what it says in the book, if Loganov would have touched the wires he was holding, Krasney Octyatber would would have been destroyed.
@@rixretros Hate to rain on your parade, but the song is definitely not SOVIET. Greek or US - thats the question. Basil Poledouris... BUT the words DO carry meaning, unlike certain RedAlert popular songs about bears and borsch (which i actually enjoy (the song, not the soup)). Nevertheless an amazing song and one should definitely be excused for thinking this is a soviet song just because of the talent put into the soundtrack and film, both of which I reckon I will never cease to enjoy.
This movie was so good that not even a Russian sub captain speaking with a heavy Scottish brogue could take away my suspension of disbelief. That says a lot.
Sean was brought on, supposedly, after filming had already commenced and he actually replaced someone who wasn't working out as Ramius (something they skipped over on this making-of). He did not have time to work with a dialog coach to deliver a more convincing Russian accent.
Thank you for a well done showing of the behind the scenes of a movie that I really enjoy when watching it. Many times, I have wondered how they did this or that and this showed me how they did it. It took a lot of hard work to make all this happen and it shows. To the cast "Well Done". To the production crew "a job well done".
I have probably seen this movie 100 times, and read the book at least a dozen times. I never get tired of it. As an Air Force guy who worked on B-52's, I was disappointed that scene didn't make it from the novel to the movie. That said, this film is a masterpiece in every respect - especially the outstanding score no one mentions in this video.
Colacurcio Law I think that the commanders of those newer nuclear missile submarines had to be a special breed of people who not only had composure in a crisis but also the inner strength to execute a massive launch command forgetting what else could be happening in the world that moment or in the near future.
To this day, one of the best films to come out of Hollywood. Every actor nailed their role!!
Well, Dr. Crusher seemed out-of-place. (She seemed out-of-place on Star Trek as well.)
yes a russian submarine commander with a scottish accent very likely
Better than some, but terrible casting blunders. 60-year-old Sir Sean, already struggling to speak fluently, was particularly unbelievable as a Lithuanian captain (the even less probable idea of having a Lithuanian at the helm of a Really Bad Thing was Clancey's own). And, of course, the hilarious scenes of submariners wearing anachronistic black dress uniforms in their tin can ruined all the suspense of the plot. By 1990 the filmmakers should have known exactly the looks of Soviet submarine interiors and what the submariners wore on duty, but no, they skipped their homework. Das Schlechte Boot.
I know right. That russian accent that Sean Connery did was perfect.
Truly a very good film. No surprise as it was based off of Tom Clancy's novel.
One of my all time favorite films. Great story with an excellent twist. Great cast. Great script. Just watched it again a week ago. It's one of those movies that I'll never tire of seeing.
Godspeed, James Earl Jones! By far, the best Admiral in the Jack Ryan serious and a great actor. Seemed like a very decent man as well. All of my sympathy is with his friends and family as I would also like to thank them for sharing him with us.
but heee.... was never there ;-)
@@channel_alanwell, Not sure if you know but, he just passed away a few days ago, which is what I was referring too.
@@Sabotage_Labs yep. Huge loss. Such an iconic voice and acting presence. He'll be missed. Great age though. Had a good run.
If Mr Jones said come over here I would run to him
@@Sabotage_Labs I believe @channel_alan was referring to the part of the movie where James Earl Jones told the fire control officer that 'The Admiral' was never on the ship.
I remember back then. I was in the USCG on the CGC Venturous. The "Red October" (a barge with an overlay to look like a submarine on the surface) was docked right behind us at the Coast Guard pier in San Pedro. They were giving our crew a chance to be extras in the movie. I opted out because they wanted us to shave our heads. Sean Connery came aboard our ship (CGC Venturous) for a tour. We were all supposed to be below decks as our Captain showed him around. I was doing some last minute polishing on the bridge when they came up, so I got to shake hands with Sean Connery. I thought I was gonna get in trouble, but the captain just smiled and nothing ever came of it. I know it's weird, but I've remembered and cherished that moment for all these years and still tell that story. I've always been a Sean Connery fan even before that movie.
Cool story. Semper paratus.
In my brain, the barge retained the name and is still called Red October today.
I was on the Battleship New Jersey stationed in Long Beach, they took a lot of guys from my ship for extras. I was lucky enough to work 3 days on the film. Right after Alec Baldwin lands on the carrier, the next scene is of the interior of the ship, I am the Chief coming down the passageway. Had a few other places I saw myself, but that was the best spot, I'm the only one facing the camera that was following Alec Baldwin. I learned so much about movie making those 3 days. What a great experience.
terryberg: If I may correct your comment: Sean Connery had the opportunity to meet YOU!
@@e.conboy4286 😅😁
20 yrs in the US Submarine force here - Scott Glenn's performance is the only one I've ever seen that is true, real and believable. BZ Commander Mancuso!
He rode with a real boat captain, on duty. Was addressed by the crew, as a real captain, and honored his reallife counterpart, in every interview about the film.
Oh yeah, it shows up here, later, lol
My last deployment on 770 the younger sailers were like, this is dumb .. and then there was only standing room
The Hunt for Red October or THFRO is misogynistic.
@@michael-4k4000 define misogyny
I can't fathom how this movie did not win more Oscars. This is still one of the best movies i have ever seen, and i have seen it multiple times i can't count anymore.
And it's a timeless movie in a way. Even now, there's only a couple of things tgat date the movie, the phone Ryan uses, and the car driving to CIA. Otherwise, it's a world most of us will never see
Because the Oscar's don't actually recognize talent. They also snubbed The Empire Strikes Back, which is used to teach filmmaking
I wore out our VHS tape.
Oscars is money. They use their own critics instead of hosting survey, hence if studio don't pay the critics, no awards for you.
Name good submarine movies! There's U-571, there's that German one.. old. Crimson Tide...any others? This movie is the sh$$!
The old diesel boat they used for the interior scenes was the USS Blueback SS-581. How do I know this you might ask, well that's a very easy to answer question, I was stationed on her when they shot those scenes. Three of our enlisted guys were extras cast as russian sailors and one of our officers played the weapons officer on the USS Dallas. A few months after the film debut we decommissioned the Blueback, that was one of the saddest days of my life and the end of the era of USN diesel boats.
If you'd like to see the Blueback she is a museum exhibit at the museum of science and industry in Portland Oregon.
Lightning546 wow!! My dad was a submarine so I appreciate this movie, as did my dad. He turned me on to the book before the movie came out. We were excited to see it!
Lightning546 that’s incredible! Thank you for your service
FoamLauncher808: You’re quite welcome, thanks for your support.
Lightning546...I did see the Blueback at the OMSI. Thank you for your service and my admiration for being able to withstand being cooped up in such a vehicle! I would have freaked out from claustrophobia as soon as the hatch was shut!
Funny they used the USS HOUSTON too? I was on board during the filming up by Port Angeles, they also did some filming at Long Beach because we didn't get enough fog up north!!
Scott Glenn never became a huge movie star, but the man is just consistently excellent in everything he does. His performance in this is subtle but brilliant!
Nick Bode Urban Cowboy and Countdown to Looking glass and The Right Stuff. Great range.
@@bawbremy Don't forget Training Day and his most famous role The Silence of The Lambs.
When I saw this movie the first time, and I saw him playing Captain Mankuso, I knew that this was going to be a great movie.
Don't forget Silverado.
I spent 22 years in the Navy, When Scott Glenn glares down at Jack Balwin after he comes aboard, it was the most believable scene in the movie. I thought "that guy has been in the Navy" . He perfectly captured a CO's scowl .
MASTERPIECE... One of my favourites movies!
Absolutely without any questions whatsoever, the highest quality "thing" EVER caught on "film." Absolutely, no doubt. Unbelievable work. God bless. SERIOUSLY.
Will miss James's magnificent voice. Have enjoyed his work most of my 68 years. RIP James.😢😢😢
The lighting scenarios and making the subs slightly different variants, so the audience could recognize the difference on which sub was in the scene, probably made a huge difference in the overall success of Red October. Still my favorite movie of all time
"My Morse is so rusty... I just might be sending him measurements for Playmate of the Month!"
The Hunt for Red October is a film that is misogynistic and elite.
@@michael-4k4000 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@michael-4k4000: Oh, FFS. And that’s coming from a “woke” film fan.
Dot dot dot ...tit tit tit...Oh I'm rusty too. Devlin was our dit dot expert. She ran around in a tennis outfit on Halloween 🎃 it was the Head sweat band...😮
This movie was cast to perfection. I really believe every character was perfectly cast! It is a movie that you can watch on a whim and enjoy it again and again.
😅 surely you jest?! How many Russian sub captains sound like that?! He's supposed to be a good actor, he could have at least attempted to sound a little less like Sean Connery!...prob couldnt afford Tom Hanks!
Yeah, Sean Connery's Russian Accent is FLAWLESS!
Honestly though, it makes just as much sense as having them be speaking English WITH a Soviet accent, because if they wanted it to be closer to real life they all would have just been SPEAKING RUSSIAN! lol
I owned this movie on VHS, DVD and now have it on Blu-Ray. I ripped an uncompressed copy of the Blu-Ray so I could have it mobile. If I am waiting on something like an appointment, I will put ear buds in an this is one of my go to movies on my phone. I just keep an eye out for when names are being called :)
@@Carstuff111That's a damn good idea...! 👍
Will we ever see this kind of calibre again?
The talent that was assembled for this movie was/ and still is mind blowing.
One of those movies where, no matter what time it is, no matter how far into it's runtime it is, you just give up everything you were doing and watch right to the end.
Yea the phone at home rang constantly while I watched it the first time on TV so I pulled the jack, I told her month before that the specific day she choose was not the best day to do our wedding on. Afterwards I went to the church but all hell broke loose, Idk why since I told her before! Women..
Amen!
with Stone Cold lol
Great movie I watch once in a while along with Master and Commander. My only nitpicking would be over the Red October's command center. A tad too glamorous but he, it is nitpicking. :-)
its my all time favorite movie. ive watched it hundreds of times, and i can still watch it. alot of mctiernan's stuff is like that for me. like die hard, etc. always comething goin g on, each scene leads to the next, boom boom boom, but not so fast its overwhelming. like batman begins. batman begins was too much, it needed an extra 30 mins of run time or so just to let the movie breathe abit.
Red October is one of 2 movies I can watch over and over and always enjoy it
What's the other one?😊
Best action movie ever made. I have watched this movie 40 times and still find small things to discover. Thank all who made it, make many more.
The Golden Years of movie making, James Earle Jones is one of my favourite actors of this era. Such a great cast and great movie.
You are right about that, what with computer graphics set design and many other talents are no longer used. I don't like it.
"I heard the torpedo hit the hull of the submarine and explode. It definitely did not self-destruct when Darth Vader pushed a button."
Awesome depiction by Sean Connery of the Russian submarine captain
I love the commentary on the casting of Greer and particularly the point about him just being a respected Admiral who happened to be black. Exactly how it should be.
It's amazing how backwards we've gone in some ways since then.
Don't forget Fred Dalton Thompson. Another great bit player that worked well into this film. He was also a very decent politician.
Scott Glenn really really had the skipper downpact. He was very.very calm throughout the combat scenes.
This documentary omits one of the most important things in the movie (and yet, you can hear it all the way through): the incredible score by Basil Poledouris. I'm very disappointed they couldn't spend a couple of seconds talking about a musical masterpiece that lifts the entire experience to another level.
YES YES YES!!! You made this comment 4 yrs ago and I AM FIRST TO GIVE YOU A REPLY??? Great, great comment by you. I especially liked the mixed chorus/choir singing the Russian national anthem. And during the opening scenes.
This was in the nineties. Thank Lord of the Rings for the modern extras that accompany movie releases - the amazing people doing the work behind the scenes get much more well deserved recognition these days.
Yes indeed, the late Mr. Poledouris was truly great. Think about Lonesome Dove without his score.
I was actually waiting for Basil's interview in this, and was very disappointed that he was not!!!
"IT was Paganini." Sorry couldn't help myself.
I spent 4 years working and working and living on a submarine. Got to meet and have signed a copy of Clancy's book. Still have it. Once a squid, forever a squid.
I had a first edition. Then I loaned it to one P-3 squadron mate, then another, and eventually did not get it returned. So all I have now is a paperback copy.
ChileExpatFamily we all have our problems, and i believe the more apropos colloquialism is ’bubblehead’;
you know the naval version of a cross between a porn star and beauty queen;
Got to go on a nuke when my brother was in New London. Before 9/11 when security got so ratcheted up. Let's just say that the guys thought a girl who was into subs was attractive. I was more jazzed by the technology and atmosphere.
@@JustMe-gh7ib Great to visit. not so fun to live on it. Hahahah
Movies like The Red October and The Fugitive are made timeless by great actors under great directors...I watch them every time they are on.
Fun fact from a former submariner friend: That scene where SSN Dallas _"FLEW"_ out of the water on an emergency blow used a _real_ sub, the Captain of which ended up getting in SERIOUS hot water for because it was a much greater ascent angle than the Navy brass was expecting. A bit _too_ realistic!
I guess the "brass" prefer the boat to be sunk if this was a real attack on her. Why the h@3L do they call it an emergency blow? To get the F*&k out of the way of the fish that was fire at you!!!! WHO CARES what ascent angle is when a fish is coming at you!!!
@@darrellhall6622 18,750 tons of displacement making a rapid one way ticket uncontrollable accent at a steep 45° is pretty _hard_ on a boat that big. Sure... it's a big "metal tube", but things still _flex_ and _groan like hell_ from the stress at every bulkhead and fitting in the hull when you shallow up that fast. They're called an "emergency blow" because you're only supposed to do them in an "emergency", that much torque can sometimes cause cracks or blow fittings/valves.
@@macgyver5108 when they do the emergency blow its no longer a 18750 ton submarine, its a 14000 ton cork
@@kullenberg83 correct, a rapid weight loss program. But how's that? "14,000 tons"? With a surfaced displacement of 16,764 tons/16,499 long tons when the ballast tanks are "empty"? 🤔 Is there a reserve amount ballast that normally is kept on if the tanks aren't blown? Either way is about that of losing the weight of a car or truck...
@@macgyver5108 used the numbers of the above statment, point is that blowing ballast will make the sub lighter. Ballast is alot of weight, easy 10% of deplacment if not more. When i was at sea the ship i was on wsa 12.500 tons with no cargo we had almost 2.200 tons of ballast
Predator, Die Hard and Hunt for Red October….John McTiernan is a legend and I sorely miss his ability to bring great stories to the screen.
Hollywood no longer has directors like him. None of those movies could be made today. Impossible. The very way Hollywood runs today would never even think of making these kinds of movies. It's terrible.
I have a great passion for this movie. I was stationed where they were filming, and I knew some of the 'Russian Sub sailors." Every time I watch this movie, I see the people I know and its quite a unique experience. They also gave us a private screening on the day that it was released. They even used a dive alarm when starting the movie! The tickets they gave us was huge, they were about 12+ inches wide. I only wish I still had it. I lost it somewhere.
I had two connections with Red October: I was the skipper of a sailboat owned by the U.S. Naval Academy, Geronimo. One Saturday, I was warned that an insurance agent from Annapolis was sailing with us and that if he knew I had anything to do with nuclear submarines, he would pick my brains. That was, of course, Tom Clancy, who was a master of detail. Secondly, one of my employees had been in the U.S. Navy and had played a Russian sailor on Red October. He spoke highly of Connery's relationship with extras and other "little people."
Master of detail? I can agree to that. Read the book years ago and I can very much imagine just how very daunting it must have been for the screenwriter to condense that level of detail down to the scale of a movie - beyond the mere remark in this video. It is this very problem that is the reason why (IMO) so many book adaptations fall flat or struggle. The examples where it was pulled off successfully, however, are accordingly cherished by the audience. Hunt for Red October, Lord of the Rings, movies for the ages, really. It takes a special kind of person to be able to put their ego aside and instead of telling the story they want to tell stay true to the source material and leave out as much as necessary and as little as possible from the original.
I was the onset propman on this movie and I vividly remember this scene watching Sean eat pickled herring’s I forgot I was working I could almost taste the herring’s it was amazing to watch him act in person. One of the days I’ll never forget RIP SEAN
The music in this movie is a once in a lifetime event and no mention of it. That score was perfect, absolutely perfect. One thing that stands out and screams. This could actually happen.
I own a NAD Surround Receiver T753, hooked up to a NAD 906 amplifier ( center and rear front and rear left - 3 channels unused ) and a NAD 2200 ( main right and left ) and a NAD 2240 ( effect l + R ) together with a Yamaha Sub, Yamaha NSG 150 main Speakers, NSG 40, NSC 150 and Canton rears. Can U imagine ?
@@heikopanzlaff3789 You're right there in the concert hall.
I agree with everyone. You can watch this movie every day and not get tired. Beautifully cast, great sets. Awesome!
The Hunt for Red October never tires or goes out of date. It will still be good in 2077
I totaly agreed.... It was a epic movie
@R.C. Collins - Why the year 2077? As for the movie, "The Hunt for Red October," I think the plot took place in 1984. After all, it was based on a novel by Tom Clancy, the author of his many right-wing fantasy novels.
@ Robert Polanco-who gives a rat's ass about Clancy's politics? He wrote a great novel and it was turned into a great movie. That's all there is to it.
@Paul Johnson - Yeah, sure! How comforting of you to say that! At least, I don't agree with you on that sentiment.
@@robertpolanco1973 open forum. Tough shit.
Just a terrific, engrossing story set to film by some talented actors and a talented producer and production crew members, etc. I have watched this again and again and never tire of seeing it.
"Russians don't take a dump without a plan" One of the best lines ever!
Two classic foreign quotes about the US Navy:
"It's extremely difficult to second guess the American Navy, because the Americans rarely read their doctrine, and don't feel compelled to follow it when they do." -- Admiral of the Soviet Fleet Sergei Gorshkov
"The reason that the American Navy does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Americans practice chaos on a daily basis." -- Admiral Karl Doenitz
@@davidwise1302 I love those quotes. I'd rather have other countries cry about us than we cry about them. Or as the great boxer Duran said, I'd rather be the hammer than the nail.
@Tim Hands " This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
Well that's what we were always led to believe..
Now there's a real man who hardly ever needed any directing or coaching. What a natural. Doesn't hurt having his as the real thing. We can say Senator Thompson was a great one and I was one of the few who helped him explore running for POTUS. How much better he would have been than McCain as a candidate. Hard as the media pushed Obama from obscurity to the limelight, it would have been close or we would have won. Fred also was good in Cape Fear as an attorney.
One of my favorite movies. Have watched it numerous times. Never gets old.
I have always loved this movie, its hands down my favourite Jack Ryan story. Every actor was brilliant and both captains are very cool customers.
The movie holds up today, from screenwriting, dialogue, direction, camera, technical, and music. It doesn’t age.
“Alright Ryan...we just unzipped our fly.”
IMHO a top ten quote from THFRO!
*J Stone* Inarguably the most crucial, decisive moment of the whole picture, too. Therefore, arguably the very best qoute >:) Lol!
How fantastic does Sean Connery look! Such presence, such charisma - incomparable!
"We sail into history."
The KGB should have looked closer at the guy. That scotish accent was a fine hint that he might be a sleeper agent ;)
Scotland is proud of the Sean.
He looks great!....but he sounds awful for this part totally spoils a potentially good film
...The guy could read an old school Phone Book for 2 hours & I would be totally immersed in total attention...James Earl 3 1/2 Hrs.!
This has always been one of my top 5 favorites. I still eyeroll though when they show the jet crash on the carrier deck and use footage of a 1950s era F9F Panther. I always thought they could've done better than that for a movie set in the late 70s/early 80s.
I saw this movie as soon as it hit the theaters with my Dad. He was a USN Chief Petty Officer, Retired. That was a special afternoon with my Dad.
James Earl Jones was perfect for this. Underrated actor.
@Fau Q no you get out!
@Fau Q , I agree with the disdain for the frequent misuse of "underrated", but the accusation of "moron" is uncalled for. Seems that people these days think that if they like something or someone, that they have to attach the prefix "underrated". Perhaps it is a Freudian means to make themselves look more special buy presenting the notion that only they can see greatness.
@Fau Q ,I only validated your verbiage if you think that anyone who does something you disagree with is a moron. If you truly think that, then I strongly disagree with you. However, we are in agreement about the widespread misuse of "underrated".
@Christoffer Veng I can add to this.... Donald Trump is the most Overrated Moron to ever be classed as a hypocrite! LOL Red October is a great movie, and Darth Vader plays a great part!
He has a presence in every movie. Brilliant steely actor. What a great cast.
Baldwin, Glenn, and Connery were brilliant in this!~
James Earl Jones, Sam Neill, Tim Curry, Stellan Skargaard, Joss Ackland, the politician fella from (Secret of My Success- Michael J Fox, Helen OMG Slater 80's 'Oh Yeah' Movie) the Principle from Ferris Beullers day off, lots more actors who were around then and still going in lots of other great flicks now.
And so was Daniel davis..
Fantastic. The era that it was made in, the special effects of the submarines underwater are almost flawless scenes. What an incredible job of ingenuity!! And to build a set that looks exactly like the inside of an actual submarine, with all working gauges and instruments, incredible!!! When you have to consider that a real nuclear powered submarine costs probably around a half a billion dollars to produce, INCREDIBLE! This film was way ahead of its time in the special effects department.
Man, it's so hard to believe it's been over 33 years since this movie was released!! I was 19 when I saw it in March of 1990, a few weeks before my 20th birthday. My 53rd birthday is a week from today. Where did the time go?!
Same here!
Who else thinks Scott Glen is one of the most underrated actors ever?
Scott Glenn is an amazing actor. I think he gets overlooked because the characters he plays are so soft-spoken. I loved him in Vertical Limit, Backdraft and, of course, this movie.
12:16 great story by Glen - while on board a submarine, the commander of it ordered his crew that Glen was to be treated as if equal rank to himself. This involved including addressing both men, and Glen would be told the order by the skipper, who would then repeat it to the men.
Don't forget his turn as the bad guy in 'Urban Cowboy'. It took awhile to get use to him as the good guy after that. ;)
TriGGletyplay don't forget about his role in The Right Stuff
+Benwoo
Me, ME!!! He was so fucking real as the sub captain that he was SCARY. Thanks for mentioning his fine performance.
Give me a ping Vasili, one ping only please.
+Will Moffett BUCKAROO!
Captain I... I just...
* *Beep* *
Will Moffett Aye, Captain
True story: I started having panic attacks in large crowds about a year ago. In my head, they would sound like sonar tracking torpedoes and I always stave them off by saying to myself "One ping, Vasili. One ping only, please." And just like that, one ping, and ONLY one ping, and they were gone.
"Andrei... you've lost another submarine?"
In the book, the first soviet sub lost was the Politovsky.
But he can't or won't lose a buffet.
@@davidsiler5505Lol
As a Navy vet and son of a career submariner, I have always loved this movie. They nailed the professionalism of both enlisted and officers serving aboard our fleet submarines. Hearing that he shadowed a real Attack class submarine commander and mimicked him makes perfect sense. I also love that the screen writer once cast as the COB, wrote himself into most of the sub scenes! ;-) One thing I would have liked to have seen more of was the interaction of the admiral and captain of the aircraft carrier as well as a few more scenes on the carrier.
Hats off to the movie industry for making a great movie and portraying our sailors and intelligence community in a good light. Clancy was always kind to the CIA and other government agencies... I'm glad they accurately portrayed our sailors and their dedication and professionalism.
USN ET
Many of the servicemen in the movie were real servicemen who were volunteering their time unpaid. The Navy had a huge hand in this movie and at many points they felt it would be both easier and more genuine to use real service members and I'm glad they did.
what your father could tell you is that the screenwriter may have unwittingly made the part more realistic by writing himself into so many scenes as Chief of the Boat. The COB always seemed to have his nose in everybody's business on the boats. So, having the character in every scene made him more believable as a COB.
A superb movie, great story, great acting and it should have won more awards. Its now 33 years old and it stands the test of time.
Yes, 33 years IS a good test of time in today's environment, but it is totally eclipsed by the 6000-year test of Time claimed by the Bible! In the last 200 years the Bible has had Thousands of People try to disprove it's Historicity, but none have succeeded yet! That's because the "Special Effects" in it were REAL Events, not optical Illusions for the sake of a good story! Nevertheless, I love the Movie for its entertaining value, even if it's eternal value is unlikely.
I'm so glad they used models of the various subs rather than cgi, even if it had been available. Models look more tactile and realistic compared to cgi... especially cgi of the 1990s.
M.r. Moon very good comment!
M.r. Moon They did use at least one real sub in this movie.They pulled under a tug boat with it,and the crew member who was in the engine room did not make it out.The sub that they used was the U.S.S. Houston. there is a story on the web about the "accident".
Agreed.. That's one of the things I love about old movies, they didn't have all if this CGI and actually had to put in more effort. I don't mind CGI to a point, but I feel they over do it to the point of looking fake, and they seem to rely on it too much.
@@lilorbielilorbie2496 That sub had a real hard life.
dieselyeti My Dad and I worked for the company that owned the tug boat. The accident happened after we both had left the company.
Absolutely one of my favorite movies glad to have seen this thank you
This movie was great for a lot of reasons, but underlying all of it was the depth of character given to the Russians. In a lot of movies in this genre, the Russians, or whatever enemy, are portrayed as one-dimensional, cardboard cut-out bad guys. This movie respects the enemies, recognizes their humanity, and is only great because of that. This starts with Ryan's reverence for Ramius and continues through examining the motives of the Russians and exposing the shallowness of some of the Americans when they attempt to argue with Ryan and use tropes when calculating their moves against the Russians. This movie is no jingoist cartoon. It portrays some complex moves across an explosive, grand chessboard by showing the other side as real people. It has it's place as propaganda in the sense that we were supposed to be approaching a new relationship with Russia, so it was now ok to consider the possibility that they are people like us. This movie could not be made today. Still, it's so much truer than other movies in the genre.
Will M: Yes, sort of. Certainly did a believable job of showing how Soviet sailors (even though the Red October submarine in the movie was a LOT MORE SHINY than Tom Clancy ever envisioned when he wrote) may have acted. But the portrayal of the Soviet Ambassador to the US who met with Pelt/R Jordan was really demeaning. But funny, too.
Absolutely agree. You are quite eloquent my friend, and a deep thinker. Those qualities are becoming extremely rare on the internet these days. Thank you.
Yes Doug, it was demeaning, but it needed to be to get the chuckle. They were both politicians after all, not "Regular" people. Demeaning is how politicians play the game. For much too long we have been seeing the Russian people as we see the politicians. They see us the same way. The "Real" Russian people are exactly like us, I have met many of them.
"Keptain Kaganovitch - my God, the name sounds like a terminal stutter."
Sorry; channeling the book.
I found that sentiment to also be expressed in the final scenes of "The Russians are Coming! The Russians are Coming!"
Can see this movie a 1000 times, and every time is like new, Perfect... across the board.
I served with Reed Popovich, an actual Naval Officer who had a small speaking role in this film. He was an amazing guy and even though I've seen this movie dozens of times I still seek it out and rewatch it every year!
"there was something underneath the novel and that was Treasure Island. " -McTiernan
Brilliance from both cases.
- "We have been sabotaged!"
- "Who said anything about sabotage?"
- (Incredulous look.) "CAPTAIN?!"
Only one word, but one of my favorite Tim Curry lines in anything, ever.
What a treat! Thanks so much for posting this. So much has changed since this movie came out, it almost seems foreign now.
When the movie came out, I was a female college student with no military ties or family members.... and yet, I fell in LOVE with this movie. Reminds me that I need to watch it again.
The Hunt for Red October is by far one of my favorite movies of all times and this was a great presentation of what went into making it. I’ve watched it at least fifteen to thirty times, I have it on my digital collection and every now and then when I want to watch submarine movies it’s one of those that must come out first, together with U-571, Das Boot and Crimson Tide, my WWII Wolfpack documentaries, among others.
And of course Gray Lady Down and Operation Petticoat.
Please not Crimson Tide
@@davecullenphotography 🤣😂😅
I can't understand why no one can write movies this good anymore. The writing casting and the actors all brilliant.
Tom Clancy's uniqueness was that he spent years getting the details right, by picking the brains of numerous Navy people and in writing his first book, Red October. Many people do not know that he pitched his book to 31 publishers. All turned him down, except the Naval Institute Press, known more for navigation charts and sailing instruction. That press made more its first year with Red October than its previous 10 years. After the success of Red October, those 31 other presses wanted to publish Clancy's work, but he went with the Naval Institute Press for his second book.
It takes talent! Tom Clancy is dead. Regretfully!
@@sg-yq8pm Clancy wasn’t a screenwriter. He was a writer.
It is not the writing. Often when Hollywood gets it's fingers on a book they do horrible things to it. Just read "Sahara" and then watch the "movie loosely based on the characters and ideas in the Clive Cussler novel".
Make the same comparison with "Raise the Titanic". While still not perfect it is a LOT closer to the original in feel and spirit
@@mbr5742 no argument on that but that's also a writer issue of turning a book into a screen play. However it's no secret that the studio exects certainly weigh in on projects in how they are written and produced. The biggest issue is inserting political agenda despite the detrimental effect it has on any given project.
One of my favorite films of all time. I have never gotten tired of it, just plain timeless. Tom Clancy is so good at writing that you can almost believe he is writing about a legitimate classified issue. His understanding of this time of cloak-and-dagger counter-intelligence & espionage is genius and makes him a true literary artist.
Yes yes about Clancy. But he was frustrated with Paramount Pictures re: a few things. And I cannot blame him .... give me a reply and I will detail them if you want and if I CAN REMEMBER TO COME BACK TO THIS PAGE .....
He does a full-length afterward, of course, in the novel Debt of Honor, on precisely this point.
I would have loved to have seen a movie version of Red Storm Rising.
There was rumor for a long time that he did a little too well. To the point the CIA had him over for a little chat. I've also heard KGB wanted to talk with him as well, might have hit a bit too close to home for them. Now how true those were, I have my doubts about them, but it makes him look a lot cooler.
@@thunderchaser2042 I heard similar rumors that the govt had questioned Tom Clancy about the details of the book and where he had gotten them. Tom was able to show that all of the technical details that he used had come from publicly available sources and not from classified information. It was those rumors that prompted me to buy the book and read it. I loved the books, and the Red October movie.
My #1 movie of last 30 years.When acting was acting.I met accidentaly Alec Baldwin about 10years, he was visiting in FTL. I recognized him and almost blew his cover so to speak..He put his finger on his lips to signal me to not recognize him. So I didn't, just said."effing luved you in October," and he said."Thanks, that part made my career.Any scene your favorite?"."Yeh," I said, when you got dumped in the water.He laffed and put out his hand to shake mine.Nice,nice man
FTL?
RonJohn63 Fort Lauderdale International airport. FTL is the airport code, like ORL is for Orlando.
@@barty8980 airport codes quite often have *nothing* to do with the city name. For example:
LGA is a NYC airport.
As is JFK.
And MSY is the main New Orleans airport.
RonJohn63 True, but many do have a historical relationship to the area or original airport name. LGA stands for La Guardia, named after Mayor La Guardia. MSY stands for Moisant Stock Yards, site of the original Moisant Field in 1946 which evolves into New Orleans International in 1960 and Louis Armstrong in 2001. But the original call letters still stand. MCO is the actual IATA letters for the commercial aviation airport for Orlando, based at the old McCoy Air Force Base, hence MCO. ORL is the Orlando Executive Airport for general and executive aircraft. Here in Los Angeles / Orange County we have John Wayne International in a section of unincorporated Orange County but closest to Santa Ana, where it’s mailing address is, and where the old Santa Ana Army Air field was, hence SNA.
RonJohn63 Also, JFK previously was Idylwild Airport, names after the Idylwild golf course that it displaced in 1939 with call letters IDL. It was renamed Gen. Anderson Airport in 1943, the changed again to New York International Airport, Anderson Field, but still retained IDL and called Idylwild. A month after President Kennedy was assassinated, the airport was renamed John F. Kennedy International and then Mayor Wagner proposed changing the IATA designation to JFK as more recognizable. So many airports had a local area or namesake that influenced the airport code although many have a geographic or city / town origin.
This movie will always be one of my favorite stories because it comes closer to telling the story of our mission as submariners in the time of the Cold War. It leaves you with a sense of some of our work and feel. Thank you.
To this day, I watch this movie every time it is on television along with "Clear and Present Danger"
I used to watch this movie with my older brother on Christmas mornings waiting for our folks to wake up so we could open presents. Great memories and a great movie!! Love it to this day!
SnakesDDT Damn that’s awesome. I might need to make that a new Christmas tradition for my family...
Still one of my all time favourite movies. And let's hear it for models and practical effects!!! The movie would not have aged as well as it has if it had used early era CGI compared to those beautiful large scale models
Models still used in LOTR and prove better than the CGI in other films....IMO
I've watched the film maybe a dozen times - it's a great, well told story. Well done to all involved
Thank you for sharing this. Watching it makes me want to rewatch the movie now.
best clancy movie adaption ever. not even a question.
That has a lot to do with the music!
And probably also with the fact that it didn't stay very close to the novel. I read it a couple of months ago, and it's the only time I've ever found the book worse than the movie!
The Red October was written during the cold war, and what a load of sickening western propaganda and nauseating over-glorification of the USA it is! The Russian characters are mostly evil and/or stupid and are often acting in totally irrational ways. Apart from that the author is mostly concentrating on showing off his own knowledge of countless different types of vessels, weapons etc., and to do so he introduces many more ships and characters than necessary to tell the story.
Good thing the movie people cleared up the mess!
@@skakdosmer You're a fucking idiot.
@@skakdosmer I am confused
Their's other Clanch movies?
@@skakdosmer I don't think you or the 6 blind mice that liked your comment even read the book. Clancy is hardly disrespective to the Russians. Quite the contrary. And your decades late inaccurate attempt at a review failing on all aspects.
This one of the best movies ever made if not THE Best! Great movie and acting!
Awesome. So awesome. This was a wonderful tribute to a movie I grew up with, due to my Dad being a Navy veteran. I wish this was 5x longer or even more. Love submarine stuff. Those models and that set blew my mind.
I'd love to see the movie remade in such a way that it followed the book, but it would end up being 6 or 8 hours long, which would be fine with me!
"Things will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it" Fred Thompson, a great US Senator from Tennessee.
This movie is one of my all time favorites!!❤❤ I never get tired of watching it!!💜💜
"Launch Countermeasures", who else but Sean Connery could have delivered that line so eloquently.
There are not too many movies that captivate me. Red October has been an exception. As Sean Connery indicated in the movie about it being a game of chess; this movie was a magnificent display of chess playing. We can thank Tom Clancy for that. I get goose bumps just thinking about this movie. I always love to see how the movie was made, as well. That always fascinates me. I cannot say enough good things about this movie. As someone on this page mentioned to the idea that this was “a thinking man’s movie”. I can’t agree more. 👍
Al Coholic The book does the same.
Wow, I'm honestly glad Costner turned down the role. Would have been interesting to see his take on it. But this way, we got both Alec Baldwin as a star as well as Dances With Wolves.
Great outcome for everybody.
💎 Wise & insightful view of the matter
Thx so much 4 the content and 2 all of the cast and participants in the movie. Job well done and appreciated. This is my favorite movie.
Still such a great film. Superb cast and acting. Alec was fantastic. But, also so many other great actors.
It's impossible to do a film like this on a small budget. The logistics of this great film must have been ENORMOUS. A monumental task.
On the acting, I LOVE the smaller, character roles, like Courtney Vance as the sonar operator. And just watch Scott Glenn. He WAS the US sub captain.
And even this is the CUT DOWN version of the novel. They left out the showdowns between US and USSR ships/planes that play a secondary role.
Unions are the first to kill the budget, Teamsters then IATSE all the extra people not needed in the production... I once looked into financing one and it was all a farce and the odds of getting your investment back are less than 50/50.
@@mbr5742
Welcome to Hollywood!!
You wouldn't need a huge budget either though, after seeing how many of the effects were achieved I would wager that most of the budget went on the stellar cast.
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Of course the majority of the budget went to the stars, what else is new?? Baldwin probably made more than the entire cast put together, outside of Connery, who probably made THREE TIMES was Baldwin did. But do you actually think that these kind of special effects are CHEAP?? You obviously have the experience of a 5-year old.
"Look Im a politician,which means I'm a liar and a cheat" ."When I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops".Some things never change.
LOL LOL And still true. More true than ever .... If you and I were in the same room I would tell you an hysterical joke about pols ....
Kelly Oden the actor who played that character has since passed away
I believe he died of a brain tumor or a brain hemorrhage
Kelly Oden that also means that I keep my options open
I'd rather have Pelt than most politicians. At least he admits what he is, but still tries to do what is best for the country. Most politicians wouldn't have given Ryan a chance.
@@kennethcrist443 How true. Most politicians would be worried about just one thing...themselves. Congress is still full if those selfish, self-serving jerks. Regardless of party.
Captain Ramius:
“I miss the peace of fishing like when I was a boy. Forty years at sea. A war at sea. A war with no battles, no monuments...only casualties. I widowed her the day I married her. My wife died while I was at sea, you know?”
This scene will forever be my favourite scene in this movie. One of my top ten favourite films.
Great comment. Then they talk about Hell to pay in Moscow, and fishing. Nice touches.
I wish they had shown the letter in the movie that he had sent. It was in the book
Darkasknightfall right when they were doing the "Crazy Ivan"
Doug Griggs the scene that darka was describing was when Red October was doing a "Crazy Ivan" around the USS Dallas
The one that you're thinking of is the scene at the end when they're hiding Red October in the Penobscot River
No papers? No papers. State to state.
This is one of my ALL TIME favorite movies !!!! Extraordinary !!!!
One of my top 3 movies of all time.....still watch it every year!
I just learned that the sub work was not underwater! Never had a clue until right now that it was miniature model work. That's Oscar-worthy. Great team.
I would think that visibility in the ocean is nowhere near that far. There is also the issue of how much light as well. Though, the "underwater" view in the movie gives a nice visual effect of what is going on.
At 21:58 they say they were given cinematic liscence on the view distances.
They say the Red October is 600 feet long. There is a record for underwater vision, where a specific object was seen 79 meters (259 feet) away. That is half of the length of the Red October but still impressive.
It was obvious to me in a second. The bottom half of American subs are painted red. These were all uniform in color in the underwater scenes.
I like Sean acting ability... awesome guy and like most his films.. makes everything believable.
Be careful what you shoot at, Ryan
most things in here don't react well to bullets
"Yeah, like me. I don't react well to bullets."
Karl Smith , he said “Bulletshh”
Great understatement.
*gets shot at*
"I have to be careful...?!"
A god damned cook! From what it says in the book, if Loganov would have touched the wires he was holding, Krasney Octyatber would would have been destroyed.
Shout out to the men's choir that sang the old Russian anthem... very impressive.
A nitpick, but it's actually a SOVIET song about the Revolution of 1917. I believe you can get more info on this if you check the credits.
@SoonerNSMD "......but that's the beauty of music. When it sings to the soul, it doesn't need a translation." - C.L.L. O'Riordan
@@w5pda It is an amazing song.. but when I finally read the translated lyrics I almost cried. And I am an 'capitalist American'..
@@rixretros Hate to rain on your parade, but the song is definitely not SOVIET. Greek or US - thats the question. Basil Poledouris... BUT the words DO carry meaning, unlike certain RedAlert popular songs about bears and borsch (which i actually enjoy (the song, not the soup)). Nevertheless an amazing song and one should definitely be excused for thinking this is a soviet song just because of the talent put into the soundtrack and film, both of which I reckon I will never cease to enjoy.
What a bunch of fuckin trolls. This music is made up words. THEY MEAN NOTHING ! THEY ARE NOT TRANSLATABLE. The composer MADE THEM UP.
This Brilliant movie started with incredible actor. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this movie. When it's on, I stop everything!
shame they couldn't interview Basil Poledouris for the amazing soundtrack
True.
Indeed!, Basil's soundtrack is one of the best of the cinema history!
@@JuanPerez-co9nd Conan too.
They forgot this epic soundtrack by Basil Poledouris... RIP genius.
This movie was so good that not even a Russian sub captain speaking with a heavy Scottish brogue could take away my suspension of disbelief. That says a lot.
Agreed!
Sean was brought on, supposedly, after filming had already commenced and he actually replaced someone who wasn't working out as Ramius (something they skipped over on this making-of). He did not have time to work with a dialog coach to deliver a more convincing Russian accent.
Its easier to suspend reality with Connery playing a Russian because he has a very non-typical Scottish accent. I mean he's not like Billy Connelly!
@@TheBaritoneCrooner accents around Scotland vary massively
Most Americans probably think it's a Russian accent.
One of my all time favorite movies. This video was great!
Thank you for a well done showing of the behind the scenes of a movie that I really enjoy when watching it. Many times, I have wondered how they did this or that and this showed me how they did it. It took a lot of hard work to make all this happen and it shows. To the cast "Well Done". To the production crew "a job well done".
I have probably seen this movie 100 times, and read the book at least a dozen times. I never get tired of it. As an Air Force guy who worked on B-52's, I was disappointed that scene didn't make it from the novel to the movie. That said, this film is a masterpiece in every respect - especially the outstanding score no one mentions in this video.
I love how the skipper of the salt Lake showed how leadership is done
in the mid 1980s command of the tactical nuclear submarines was likely the worst job in the US Navy.
@@martintheiss743: I think I read you, but would you mind elaborating?
Colacurcio Law I think that the commanders of those newer nuclear missile submarines had to be a special breed of people who not only had composure in a crisis but also the inner strength to execute a massive launch command forgetting what else could be happening in the world that moment or in the near future.
And Scott Glen knocked it out of the park. I loved his character and the way he portrayed him.
@@martintheiss743 Got it. Thanks.
Never realized the screenwriter also played as COB for USS Dallas.
DurkMcGerk just realized that
DurkMcGerk John MacTiernan listed Larry Ferguson on the call sheet: Ferguson says that himself 14:53-15:00
DurkMcGerk that was a shock for me also
It's customary for a junior enlisted sailor to take the helm. But in this movie it worked.
Viewing this movie was one of the few times I felt like I was reading a book. That rarely happens.
One of my favorite movies of all time, the cast was perfect acting , story all..
This is still one of my all time favorite movies!! Actually watched it again just the other night!
"Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please."
csabo1725 it's pleashhhh not please