4.2 - Why The Archons Shouldnt Exist, Destroying The Heavenly Principles | Genshin Lore & Theory
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00:00 Start
02:36 How to Destroy An Archon Throne
05:25 Heavenly Law on Archons
08:28 Archon vs Authority
12:23 Breaking Divine Principles
14:50 The Six Remaining Pillars
17:17 Implications & More Theories
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Isn't the demolishment of the throne arguable with Zhongli though?
Azhdaha himself (who is more than likely the Geo Sovereign, but we don't know for sure) confirms Zhongli is no longer an archon, he could sense it i.e. he could sense Zhongli *no longer* harbored the requirements befitting an official archon (that being not solely the Gnosis, but the Geo Throne itself). And Azhdaha's sense, as seen throughout the quest, is *extremely keen*.
That's also probably why when Scara had the Gnosis, he didn't officially become an Archon/the Electro Archon. You need the Elemental Throne to be an official Archon, which as observed by Azhdaha's commentary, Zhongli now lacks.
The fact another god didnt magically pop up in his place/the throne didn't immediately go to the next closest god whenever he abdicated the throne (like Egeria to Focalors, Rukkhadevata to Nahida, Makoto to Ei) might support this? Everytime the throne is abdicated, a god automatically takes the place. That isn't the case with Zhongli though, who by Azhdaha's observation, also *apparently* lacks the throne...
Something that always caught my attention about the topic of Focalor and the Hydro Throne is that I think it was Spoiled since 4.0 because, if we use the elemental vision on the statue of the Seven of Hydro we will see that only the figure of Focalors is bathed in the power of light, but the pedestal where she stands is not. which would symbolize a goddess without a throne because, what disappeared was the Position of Hydro Archon, but not that of the "Goddess of Justice".
Which means that the statue of the seven of Fontaine represents a goddess without a throne, while all the other statues are complete.
Another striking thing is that Fontaine's archon quest ended, but neither Furina nor Focalors said the phrase that is written in the Hydro gem, and each archon (except Zhongli) has said the phrase that is found in their respective gem during or at the end of the Archon quest.
Never noticed that since I didn’t check. That’s a cool detail.
I noticed that the Colors of the Elements namecard has hydro seperated from all the other elements. I guess they’ve been cooking the idea of hydro being the element to lose it’s archon throne for a while which is probably why the hydro dragon specifically is the one reborn as a human.
anyone else worried that now two nations in a row the gods made another one of themselves as part of a long-term plan to end their own lives?
Well, we could argue three, if we count the tumbling and juggling Makoto made to use her death as a diversion to avoid the Heavenly Principles from seeing the seeding of the Sacred Sakura and leaving Ei to cover for her
@@erikboncoref.7020four, if u count zhongli and his fake exuvia
@@despressso something tells me that Zhongli's posture is more of a Pilatos one: "I fake death, wash my hands and don't intervene in anything from any sides in what's coming", but maybe there could be something about him giving sight to Azhdaha that might be argued...
Plants look the same even if they are from diferrent species, rukkadevata is not nahida rukka just look so similar to nahida becase and she said that she was borrowing nahidas form to talk whit her nahida is the purest branch of irminsul and rukkadevata was the avatar of irminsul they came from similar sorces but they're not the same for the love of god that would be the same as saing nahida erased herself and if you forgot no person can erase themselves
I mean yeah... Every region From Liyue onwards has recicled plot points, the next two regions will also have archons tired of their that are also the replacement for themselves due to some BS of one person being multiple people and reincarnation fuckery.
Neuvillette's attitude doesn't feel like one that wants the archons to pay with blood though. He's pretty chill toward them like "yeah sure they are gonna stand trial... one day, I'm going to visit them when I'm in the mood. " probably with the exception of Morax. Don't know what beef he has with Zhongli, but Zhongli is indeed the oddball of the archons, so maybe we can expect some juicy lore coming up soon. Also we are not done with Fontaine yet, we still have Dainsleif and other stuff coming up. So maybe Celestia is cooking up their new punishment right now😂
Where can I read about Neuvillette's feud with Zhongli? I'm curious, thanks!
@@rafdisaifan7323 Here is Neuvillette's voice line for the geo archon. Which is the first of the archon voice lines he has for them followed by Venti, Ei, and Nahida. We have no into on other archon's in his voicelines. It is possible like CHilde's voice lines and Scara's voicelines for the harbiangers it is giving a order to the archons, which if I had to guess is age with Zhongli being the oldest going to the youngest archon being Nahida, His voiceline for Furina is further down (who might actually be younger than Nahida if her birth is when focalor tore her divinity in 2 with Furina as the human half and focalor the divine half (which happened after the calamity 500 years ago.)
Nothing will stop me from rendering judgment on each of The Seven. As the Archon who won the Authority of Geo, Deus Auri must be called to trial. If one does not wish to see us on opposite sides of a conflict, they need not worry, for I intend to stay in Fontaine for the foreseeable future, which could well mean another four hundred years. As another point of consolation, even when the trial eventually takes place, it is still not a given that the judgment will lead to a physical confrontation. -----> Vocieline on Geo archon
Its less a beef and more that he wants to watch them to make sure they are fitting his ideal of justice and ruling which might mean he cares for the people or someother criteria. I have no idea why OP though Neuvillette has more of a beef with Zhongli than the others. That being said he has little respect for Venti and Zhongli but less as archon's and more for wearing fake visions.
Excuse me? You're saying even some members of The Seven don a counterfeit Vision before mingling with their people? Ha... My apologies - I was just caught off guard by the absurdity of the situation. ---> his Vision 2 line.
@rafdisaifan7323 from his voicelines that you can look up if you have him. Toward other archons he's chill, especially Nahida. But he did threat to potentially use violence towards the geo archon like he's going to battle him or something. That's why some people have joked about Groundon vs Kyogre in Genshin recently
I can sense that also! His hostility level for Morax is greater than the other archons... if i had to rank his hostility based from his voicelines, from lowest to highest, the list would be : Nahida, Venti, Ei, Zhongli
Today we learned
1. Metaphysics
2. Teyvat’s laws
3. Genshin lore
This is my report paper, prof. Aru
So, Dragon Sovereign authorities are tied to the archon throne. Even if the physical body of an archon has perished , the throne and authority is still passed down to whoever is the successor but the throne and authority are “given” by the heavenly principles, attached the subject to their laws. Focalor needs to kill the title in order to give back the authority without being caught. In order to do so she accumulated indemnitium for 500 years and used that power/energy to destroy the hydro archon’s divine throne completely. She outwitted the heavenly principle by giving the death sentence specifically to *the* hydro archon (not Egeria, Focalor, nor Furina) That was the reason why she needed to separate her divinity from her “human” body, gave her human part a role to play as the archon, play make believe. (my guess is that the divine power is not too far from the physical body so that the heavenly principle wouldn’t bat an eye unless they were all dead long ago.) and since the title of the hydro archon was passed on to her “divinity” she only needs to kill the divine part of her. Thus the authority of the sovereign can go back to where it belongs and the story goes on as we know.
Genshin really took a dark turn here. I cried so hard. Furina acted for 500 years with no breaks. The mental trauma that took a toll on her wasn’t something that someone should bear. Her will power is as pure as it can be.
Venti feels like an old man cheching off his bucket list.
I thought Dvalin and Azhdaha aren't Sovereigns but just elemental dragons...and that the only known Sovereigns are Apep and Neuvilette.
Yes he was wrong spacially devalin
Both aren't confirmed officially, it's still a fan theory.
Ive always theorised that venti gave back the anemo authority to the dragons through Dvalin. It gets backed up when he states that he is currently the “weakest” of the archons. His traditional authority no longer belongs to him, reverting him back to his own power.
If it was that easy, the whole fontaine AQ and Focalor's sacrifice will be for nothing then. The "divine seat" (Probably tied to the archon) needs to be destroy if they want to return the authority.
I freaking love Venti more and more
I think the simpler reason as to why Focalors died is because she's not a person of her own. She was originally just an oceanid turned human, but when she inherited the position of hydro archon, she separated what she was before (just a normal girl, which became Furina) and the divinity that she inherited with the title of hydro archon, which was also tied to the hydro throne, and that's what Focalors is. She's the disembodied divinity of the hydro archon personified, so if she wanted to destroy the title of hydro archon and the throne/authority that is bound to it, she had to destroy herself.
‘ Dvalin and Azhdaha are NOT dragon sovereigns. So Venti giving his powers to Dvalin is not the same as Focalors returning the dragon authority to Neuvillette.
It's funny how people get super excited about outwitting the heavenly principles when we have little evidence of that. All we have are claims of what Focolor intended to do, not what she actually achieved. Yes, Neuvillette got his power back, but... that could also be some god in Celestia just playing along; we dont know what their pantheon is like. We've also never seen the thrones. We can't prove it's truly broken. We don't even know the truth of the prophecy. All we know are observations made by the characters, which we know are flawed. This channel spent minutes going over how Neuvillette is going to judge the other Archons. What's he going to judge them on? His voice lines show how 'serious' he is about it, but even if he was, he doesn't have the jurisitiction nor the moral standing. The dragons weren't good either. Apep is a perfect example. Fun fact, humans in Tevat are just as much Usurpers as the Archons, especially vision wielders.
this was a really good take but it can be destroyed by your own arguments. A reason Neuvillette might not kill humanity is because he has grown to love them in the past few hundred years and he is clearly ok with vision wielders since he stored away part of his power for them. We Don't know what celestia is really like and we won't get any clues until the area it's floating over gets revealed so you could be wrong on that. And it's not like he killed either Furina or Focalors, he even mourned Focalor's death, The reason Focalor had to die was to destroy her throne. That is why maybe in the future, he or another dragon could find out how to destroy a throne without killing its god though that's just wishful thinking for now
"Well, I mean, she's such a talented artiste, it's no wonder. I wouldn't be surprised even if she'd saved the entire world." (venti)
"while it may look like nothing has changed, it also seems like everything has. I think we both know her to be smart enough to turn the fate of the world around." (nahida)
Focalors goal was to change fate, she accomplished this through Neuvillette. This is backed up by the quotes above.
It's unknown as to why celestia hasn't responded. But going off of what Nahida said, they're most likely asleep. They don't see a sovereign as a threat, as they've already defeated them before. The only way to forcefully wake them up is by destroying the gnosis, which yet again was suggested by nahida. This is backed up through Neuvillettes character story, which states that the Gnoses reinforces the primordial ones absolute authority whilst subduing the resentment and loathing of the world.
Apep wasn't a "good" dragon because her anger/rage got amplified due to the forbidden knowledge she was tainted with. In the end, she didn't want to have any relations with humans or nahida.
The archon throne has been broken, and Neuvillette is both the evidence and source. The archons authority relies on a fraction of the original sovereigns power. Prior to 4.2, this was assumed to be the gnosis, but now its the Archon Throne. As the Archon + The throne no longer exists, naturally the power will returns to its original inheritor(Neuvillette).
I didnt even realize venti gave his powers to dvalin until now. Lol
Love hearing these lore musings! I find it a little hard to hear over the music, but that might just be a me problem.
I've also got an earworm to share that's been rattling in my head. So far, we know that Visions are not granted by the Archons. Then, Focalors "dies" and Furina suddenly gets a Vision after she accomplished some vague requirement in the same vague way that every Vision holder received theirs as we've seen in past events and character descriptions. It then occurred to me that "Celestia" and the "Heavenly Principles" may just be some automated system to "manage" the planet/ecosystem that is Teyvat, that's been left behind and has been breaking down over the years. The old phrase "any sufficiently advanced technology can be perceived as magic" comes to mind. It's also been said that receiving a Vision is pretty much a sentence worse than death. So somehow I think having a Vision means you conform to the system and has become an integral cog to keep it chugging along.
On top of all this, we also got a bit more info on "descenders" whom visited Teyvat before. Heck the 3rd descender's remains even became the gnosis that each archon has to signify and officiate their spot on the throne. With that in mind, perhaps the 1st descender was the one that implemented the "Celestia" system eons ago to help cultivate Teyvat. But then an accident happened 500 years ago where Khaenri'ah made a biiiiiig "OOPS" and threw the entire system for a loop. Since then the entire system has been breaking down and in the present timeline, we (players) as Travelers are seeing the system's final death throes.
I like to think of the Thrones of Archons as seals created by the Heavenly Principles to prevent the Sovereigns from regaining power/authority after an Archon dies/passes on the power of an Archon to someone else(an example being Egeria choosing Focalors as the new Hydro Archon). If that is the case, then with the Throne being in existence, a Dragon Sovereign cannot be a fully-fledged Dragon correspondingly.
(And I would like to add that the Usurpers took only a part of the Sovereigns' authorities, because Neuvillette still had the powers to stop the Primordial Seawater and all that. My guess is that with the usurped state of authority the power division is around 25%(Dragons) and 75%(Archons), and with the returned state it's 100%(Dragons) and "there is no Archon"%(Archons). The numbers are solely for demonstration only and do not mean anything.)
As to why Focalors had to die -- she didn't directly. She died because she was a DIVINE CONSCIOUSNESS. Her divinity is connected to the Throne, without the Throne this divinity doesn't exist. By destroying the Throne she destroyed the divinity, and destroyed her consciousness by doing so. Hypothetically speaking, if she hadn't separated the divine consciousness(Focalors) from the body(Furina) and kept everything in one thing, the hypothetical Archon would just lose their powers and become a normal human. No one would die.
Also I believe that the destruction of the Throne prevents ANYONE from becoming an Archon, even Neuvillette (kinda obvious, but I saw a theory recently about Neuvillette becoming the next Hydro Archon? Yeah, that's nonsense).
The Gnoses! Always a very interesting and confusing topic. In my opinion, the Gnoses are, indeed, sources of power over an element. By being the remains of the Third Descender, they are not connected to the Thrones(if they were, the Hydro Gnosis would've likely gotten destroyed together with the Throne). The reason they were given out to the winners of the Archon War alongside the Divine Thrones is because... why? The Thrones are seals that keep a stolen part of the Dragon Authority to the Archons and away from the Dragons. So the Thrones already act as a power source, why give out something they don't even need? I would like to hear your thoughts, for me brain is too smol to come up with an explanation for that xD
Edited: the whole cutscene/environment/conversation could have been a huge metaphorical demonstration for how a Throne is destroyed and didn't actually happen. Focalors being shown executed does not mean that the execution itself was the reason why the Throne got destroyed. (My alibi is how Hoyo confused us to death by Wanderer saying things like 'how was I in my previous life?' while it's just the memories and records of history being altered and not the man actually getting reborn or something)
Edited(2): also in the cutscene Neuvillette was literally flying over the Opera Epiclese, but right after the cutscene it turns out that just a second had passed and nothing actually happened and no one moved an inch! So we can make an obvious conclusion that whatever that was -- was metaphorical or not fully truthful. My best explanation is that the info just kinda got loaded in the Traveler and Neuvillette's heads or time got warped and confused. The Traveler even asked "Just now?" (or a different answer "You obtained power?") after Neuvi said that he now can separate the Primo water from that creature. This serves as proof that no time has passed in actuality while we, as the player, spent around 50 minutes witnessing Neuvillette and Focalors' conversation and the Traveler watching Furina's one-actor "show".
A reminder: the player ≠ the Traveler. The Traveler doesn't know about Neuvi and Focalors' dialogue (unless Neuvillette told them directly, which I do not remember)
Later nuevillete explaned to traveler.
@@odyssey_of_mind thanks for telling me! I appreciate it
Omg we had the same thought! So theory, the gnoses were given to the archons by Celestia so Celestia could make sure the dragons wouldn’t get their power back…this is why they made the most powerful people in the nation archons, they would be the best defenders of this power. This also explains why archons hold the gnoses…literal power filled objects but don’t gain anything. They aren’t made to use the gnosis, they are meant to guard them from the dragons. Why don’t the archons just use the gnoses power? Perhaps it’s cursed? Maybe Celestia doesn’t want the archons to get that powerful? Maybe archons can’t even use the power? Who knows haha
@@xoxox.o Yes your correct
I wish Neuvilette luck, considering, no one sits on the electro throne as Ei never succeeded Makoto and only continued the façade of the electro archon as if nothing changed, but never linked with the gnosis and just had it in the shrine. and the one sitting on the dendro throne is nahida, who is not rukadevata but actually Irminsal itself, as Ruka didn't make a clone of her self but gave life to a branche of the world tree.
I'm sure if the problem in Fontaine is different, Focalors would've wished to live longer and resorted to other means of keeping Fontaine and her people safe. While severing her ties with Celestia.
It's entirely possible that Venti is using something Indemnitium like with stories for power
To do... Something
If is that so. Zhongli said he was no longer the geo archon. So who's he giving with his Authority?
but Dvalin and Azdaha aren’t sovereign dragons. Only two sovereign dragons are know which is Apep and Neuvilette.
Dvalin isn't likely(still possible) but there is quite a few things suggesting that Azdaha is one.
Azdeha is confirmed to not be a dragon sovereign. He's a rock carved to the shape of a dragon @motemo8413
@@IlayNisan i mean that doesn't mean much. Geo sovereign could have been a rock that got carved into a dragon.
@@motemo8413not possible sovereigns are the primordial dragons the origin elemante
@@The_original_one No i am talking about after their demise. if after death Hydro Sovereign is able to reincarnate as a human then why can't Geo Sovereign turn into a stone upon his demise(we know stones can contain some memories and elements)? Zhongli could have found this special stone afterwards and carved Azdaha out of it.
As for him cooperating with Zhongli, well we also have Neuvillette as a sovereign cooperate with Furina so similar thing could be the case for them.
I think Venti can give Dvalin anemo authority because his status of "God of the Freedom", he very diffirent from ei and zongli in way of power
fontian was best archon quest by far but i cant say about others
I hope that all the good ppl like focalors amd wgeria nabu rukka makoto guizhong and others like them come back so that they dont suffer this anymore
Good Vid that provokes a lot of thought.
When I look at it, I think that when Focalor took out the divine seat and returned its power/reverted the state back to its original design. She effectively made it so that there was no one left remaining to punish for the 'sin'. The real question is what will Celestia do to return things back to their jurisdiction? This is considering that Nueiv is not part of Celestia's reign.
Considering that she already had the 'sin' hovering over her head, Celestia would have simply caused the disaster regardless in response to the 'sin', since the flooding was a acceptable punishment for the said sin. This way someone (god-level) has been punished for the 'sin', making it so that there was no longer a point in punishing the ppl and the land itself.
I get the feeling that Celestia doesn't care about the human level of things, but instead only value things on the god-level of things. Once a human or issue ascends, then they truly gain the gaze of Celestia and the Heavenly Principles.
What I am really interested in seeing, is Celestia going to DO ANYTHING, to restore control over things. I mean if a section of land declared independence, refused to send taxes to the government, that just wouldn't stand.
The story has ended at the point so far of just being a very short time after the events of Act 5. In the views of long lived immortal beings a couple of mo would still be within acceptable response time. Unless of course, they have no power to respond, or just extremely negligent.
Yall i have a theory that genshin impact and honkai star rail are in the same universe (probably i did no research at all😀)
So Genshin Impact is mostly on land and honkai star rail are mostly in space
So my theory is honkai star rail is in the genshin impact universe just a few thousand years later..
And theres also another short theory i have what if people on teyvat had to move to space due to “Something dangerous” in teyvat and then a few thousands later the “dangerous thing” went extinct for who knows why?
After that people in the spaceship went back to teyvat and re-explore it and you all know that cold place right? ( i forgot the name 😅)
What if that was snezhnaya just a few thousand years later. Ok thats my theory and feel free to reply and explain to me if i wrote something wrong
MHY insinuated that their games are part of a metaverse, so they share one world. But they might all be in their own universes which are on different branches of the Imaginary Tree.
If you're talking about Jarilo-VI, it didn't have perma winter 800 yrs ago. And we can see from the train that it's a spherical planet. With Teyvat we don't know if it's a sphere. There is a fake sky (possibly a dome); and then the up=down and down=up, which may or may not have a literal meaning.
@@Black.Spades hmm thank you for explaining
It's kind of interesting that Dragon Sovereigns (or vishaps in general) do not simply die but reincarnate, on contrast to Archons/gods that die and has to be replaced by someone else; has to appoint a successor.
In his profile > voice-line > Interesting thing: Vishaps, he told us that vishaps or dragons have this tradition to drink the blood of their young; fallen kin's blood, in a sense to remind themselves that those who have perished will soon be revived. Just like after the previous hydro sovereign perished, Neuvillette shows up some millenia later with the skill name "O Tides, I Have Returned". Also this voiceline unlocks once you finish the Act 4 (where Neuvillette confessed that he is the hydro dragon sovereign.) Which later solidify him being the reincarnation of the previous hydro sovereign.
Fun fact: We possibly have known already who was the previous hydro dragon sovereign. Big chance it is pointing towards Scylla, the prince dragon that helped Remus on building the kingdom of Remuria. Although Neuvillette said that the previous hydro sovereign died (perished), Scylla was sealed under the tower of Remuria and later fell into the abyss. It is unknown whether Scylla died or managed to be unsealed and reincarnates/returned as Neuvillette.
Also it's interesting that Scylla is dubbed as the 'prince' dragon. Since it fits the bill of the hierarchy system that is applied among the ranks of Dragon Sovereigns. With Nibelung being dubbed as the King Dragon Sovereign, it would make sense if Scylla (or currently Neuvillette by extension) is called the prince.
First off I would like to say, I really enjoy your videos! 😊 I’m glad you made that comment about Furina being only a human with a vision. I’ve seen so many people say that Furina is the Hydro Archon. I don’t agree. Don’t miss understand me, I love Furina and have her in my team but, the Hydro Archon did destroy herself and her throne.
Its all right guys you dont need to worry about Neuvilette attacking other archons and forcing them to renounce their seats. Why? because he cares for humans. He knows that if other sovereign dragons were to get their power back, they will destroy everything on teyvat (Apep clearly says this, and when the day comes he will mock Nahida for her foolishness and would destroy everything if she ever got the chance). If one or two such sovereigns got their power back, it would also mean that he would be under threat as well, as it would mean that he has betrayed the dragons by protecting humanity. This would endanger him alongside all the people of fontaine. He wont do anything to trigger this sort of cascading domino effect.
My theory is that the divine throne become part of the existence of the current archon themselves that’s why focalor had to die otherwise I can’t see a reason why she killed herself
I wanna say this cause I am a little confused but when reading the lore it is stated that the Soverigns were also known as the Dragons of X like for example Neuvillete would be the Dragon of *Water* not Hydro, I think it was a video by Ashikai or something where she states that Hydro and Water are two different things but is that still the case now?
Basically soveraigns control the most pure form of the elemante.
Apep is called dragon of verdure.
The elemante the sovereigns control are primordial .
@@The_original_one Okay so basically it is still the case then just with a different name because if I remember that is what the conclusion made by Ashikai
@@oddityurie3435 yes
Hi.. What's the name of the music that's played at the end? ( violin part)
it's one of Fontaine's theme music, i think its one of the first music you hear when you come to Fontaine throught Sumeru
I wish she didnt die and that she was still around to keep furina company would be nice also with guizhong amd her freaking out so yeah and just removed it another way
I think fatui's goals are the 3rd descender bcs if archon shall die for the status quo of the divine throne, tsaritsa should kill herself as focalors did, fatuis ruining life across teyvat but she dont budge as she is willing to do anything to save the world
But again, there still a price to pay for all the atrocity she lets happen, i wish tsaritsa not just all talk about hating the divine and will putting herself on the line or even prepared to die for her goals
This is a silly idea, don’t take it too seriously, but I wonder whether Venti ever claimed his authority, as the god of freedom he never wanted the authority to rule over his people, I don’t think Celestia would have minded, only because he already was the child of one of their shades. He is the weakest god despite being worshiped the most could have something to do with it, he might not be able to access any power given to him, because he doesn’t even have the throne
Once again, silly idea,still might be possible since I somehow doubt that then Venti is either ignorant and/or willing to participate in the present that is Teyvat
and I am assuming Celestia still needed the archons to agree to take the authority because they’re not allowed to talk about certain things but maybe they never had a choice and this means nothing
8:25 Dvalin???? ❓
Yas
I thought I was learning about Genshin not science
Watching this video makes me wish for a playable Dvalin, maybe with a Skill that can turn him back into a dragon and fly around Teyvat...ah, one could dream~
A question I have is
How in the heavenly world is celestia not raging their wrath? An archon literally destroyed a key position and basically there can’t be another archon in fontaine because the throne is destroyed
Sure they can remake one
12:28 … oh lmao I typed this before hearing this, but I’m not erasing my comment now hah
I think control is a rather big word attached to heavenly principles because if we think about it they never harmed both siblings even though they may have known about the threat twins show and they seems to be keeping anything away that tends to destroy or be a threat to teyvat and let archons do as they please even tho a being of higher level should be aware of changing of hearts
the right word might be sustainers of teyvat/world/order since no matter what you do whoever takes control of teyvat/gets to shape the world to their accordance just like phanes did
Be it fatui be it dragons be it heavenly principles or any other imposter faces as heavenly principles the world will tend to face many things others would deem brutal or down right unacceptable
What i get from all the story so far someone or something is greatly trying to influence the opinions where heavenly principles or celestia is the bad guy while others are just rebels/innocent fighting for a cause we have great examples that humans are not to be trusted in teyvat like khaenri'an,sal tarrace,old mond,old liyue, Enkanomiyan's,abyss order these are very few examples that have posed questions to us about human actions are humans really to be trusted?
because most of the time it's humans who did things they were told it might not be good for them but they did it
The war of vengeance is one such examples that teyvat originally had suffered a great loss back then because of selfish invaders just like celestia that world can be brought down if corruption is shown
Tldr:- i think the whole world is at fault neither humans,gods,celestials,abyss,fatui,archons none of them are innocents because of their actions there tends to be casualities that shouldn't have taken place
Also i think traveler might be brought to the fate of thw world itself to correct the Direction they may take since nicole said only fate serves as ur guide i think the fate's avatar is Paimon and the she has spent all her power to summon traveler to save the world ascend to throne and become the new order
Archons aren’t even originally meant to rule this world anyway. The sovereigns are.
So what? Presently the archons hold the power while the dragons cowar before the mighty throne of gods
@@fly8668mighty? The archons ? Lol nice joke
The primordial one the supreme god took 40 years to defeat the sovereigns even then he was almost got defeated.
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why was kaeya white in the genshin star ad 💀
To the people saying dvalin is not a sovereign, you are right, but remember we don't have mondstadt lore updates since long time ago. When dvalin was introduced, the existence of dragon sovereign had not been known. So the chance that Dvalin may actually be revealed as the reincarnated anemo sovereign in the future still exists. And this is not me coping, just want to remind people that mondtsadt is NOT finished yet.
Archons are selfish, vain, narcissist
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@@SpeckOfSunlight and not of your buisness
@@hoangcute2k5 why are you being so rude? 😭 I was simply confused as to why you think that way, is all.
@@SpeckOfSunlight this is my OWN opinion
@hoangcute2k5 I won't ask any further, since you seem pretty defensive about it... Still, all I wanted was just an explanation since I didn't understand 🫠