Lol my daughter just recently became randomly obsessed with gravity falls, shes watched both seasons twice! Its only been a week lol 😆 ironic you said that haha
as an eminem fan and fan of yours, to answer your question about who murdered slim shady i would say its eminem. i think the idea of this album is to show how ridiculous the persona can be. and that most people that agree with sim shady are just as ridiculous. i say that as his older work is much more offensive and as you say in this video he doesn't quite go as offensive as he could with it. i think that's down to him getting older, being a leftist and having a trans/non-binary child. a lot of the album i feel is a parody of modern conservative views. like the whole "cancel me" "gen z sucks". that being said i dont want to downplay your take when i say that. i agree with you, you have every right to not be happy with what he says especially when it effects the trans community.
Yea, I just don’t think sam is used to “analyzing” rap music because she even missed what kendrick was doing on auntie diaries the first time around. She can still not like it and thats cool and I respect that but I just think she genuinely has a misconstrued notion on what eminem is actually doing on the album
@@fyoutube2294 i mean fair, but also with all the misinformation and transphobia out there i wouldn't blame her even with the concept in mind. its understandable that this album would be unsettling to hear if you're trans, so i dont wanna be invalidating that.
I'd buy that if the actual death of slim was like, in the middle of the album, not like, literally at the end. As it stands right now it feels like the whole arc is all just an excuse to make the edgy music he enjoys making without taking accountability.
@@katyyulig i definitely think that even with the concept in mind that its still valid to be unsettled by the transphobia, i dont mean to invalidate at all when i said this. but i do appreciate you also giving your take on this cause it is important that regardless of what eminem tried to do with the album that trans peoples feelings and opinions are taken into account.
@@katyyulig i actually think he doesn’t do that by revealing on guilty conscience 2 that it was all just and dream and even states “you’re not the judge or the jury, you’re just as guilty” and im sure others have said this but compared to how edgy eminem can be, this was really tame. It definitely was an excuse of sorts to tap back into his roots but rappers like jay z have done similar things like with his album “American gangster” where he’s years into fame and wealth but creates this concept to allow him to tap back into his roots where he was poor and hustling. I think artists use concepts regularly to have an excuse or to allow themselves to create from a different perspective than just their default because if you have an idea you want to manifest artistically, why limit yourself.
Eminem has an adopted non-binary child, and he’s friends with Elton John. It would be wacky to be supportive of the LGBTQ+ community and trash them on his music at the same time. His alter ego Slim Shady would be the bigot and Eminem canceled his alter ego for us. His family and friends knows he’s joking and trashing on the transphobes whining and complaining about free speech and not taking accountability when called out.
@@MxPotato84 He loves his non-transitioning afab any/all pronouns nonbinary child and he’s friends with a cis gay man. What do either of those have to do with respecting trans women?
@@basinmason8143 that the set up he is not condoning that behavior he is setting up to mock it and call it immature later in the album. the album is a story each song leads into the next.
I went and listened to the whole album, read the lyrics of each song and skit. Conclusion: a nostalgic retrospective that takes root in current issues, including transgender people, pc culture, and other rappers. In terms of quality, beat, and flow, it is smooth and engaging. It is self-aware but embraces the offensive, mean-spirited lyrics, mostly in the first half (before Guilty Conscience 2). It is clear that it's Slim Shady, his persona, the side of him that is all things gruesome and rebellious, but it's clear this side is still part of him. He wrote it, he's rapping it, but ultimately he aims to kill that part of him. In doing so, he says slurs and keeps going on and on about Caitlyn Jenner, even deadnaming her multiple times (guest stars included). Halfway through the album, he stops referencing Caitlyn Jenner and transgender people altogether once Slim Shady is "dead". It seems like he was trying to give a taste of what his content in his "old days" would've been like in the 2020s, and then transitioned into what he wants to be about today, primarily family. It feels like he was taking shots at her specifically because of her political disgrace; I wholeheartedly disagree with the way he treated her, and the idea that respecting a trans person's identity until they fuck up bad enough is an awful idea with a slippery slope. Gender is a right, not a privilege to be taken from immoral or criminal people. I genuinely don't think he intended to be transphobic or come off as such, but the effects are still there.
"Gender is a right, not a privilege to be taken from immoral or criminal people." so true. no one would ever misgender a cis person no matter what crimes they do or no matter if they destroyed half the world. but god forbid trans people exist and then theyll look for any way to justify their bigotry. (ik the olympic girl was cis and got misgendered but that was from a place of transphobia and brain rot once again, whereas all the gross figures throughout history theyd never misgender once)
@@princess-violet I have no idea what his plans are. I was never very big on Eminem, only hearing his music and news on him tangentially. Maybe he'll be rapping more about his worries about death and family, maybe it'll be more of the same but no slurs and contain less about violence and n3croph1lia and drugs. I couldn't tell you.
eminem is killing the worst part if him self in this album he doesn’t care about gen z. he thinks his old self is embarrasing this if for his fans and telling them him and them need to finally grow the fuck up. ps he has a nonbinary child and loves them they are in the music video for hudini
Eminems adopted kid came out as nonbinary 3 years ago and featured in the video for Houdini. His kid knows him better than we ever will.This album is Eminem killing off the Slim Shady personality, because he HAS grown and continues to grow. At least that is what I got from it, as an enby who grew up with Eminems music. The character has been such a large part of his brand for the majority of his career, that it only makes sense that he would make a statement out of killing him off. You don't kill off half your branding behind closed doors, you make a statement with it. That is what Eminem was doing here.
Does it allow em to play both sides? Claim to be spreading anti trans hate for cred with bigoted artists and appear like a supportive dad to team rainbow? 🤷♀️
@@claritybadb he isn’s playing both sides tho he supports the LGBTQ community!!! you can say that he should have been more clear he is mocking his old self. but he is not playing both sides
This is ridiculous. If you told me a year ago I would be defending Eminem for lyrics on an album about trans people I would have laughed in your face. The point of the album clearly went all the way around and over your head, this isn't an "anti-woke" album like people on the right have said. The sole point of the album was for Eminem to bury the "Slimy Shady" persona of his old self from the late 90s and early 00s as you are supposed to listen to the album in the chronological order in the album to get the payoff. With the jokes poking fun of everyone, (yes, even people on the right) this is one of the most "Eminem" Eminem albums ever. I know that this is a vary shallow description of it, but their are videos on TH-cam talking about it in a deeper depth then me or Samantha. Also just to say, Eminem is the voice of reason on this album and Slim Shady is the one making trans jokes. Just more reason why lyrical comprehension is key when hearing a song like "The story of O.J" by Jay-Z or "Money Trees" by Kendrick Lamar.
his fans keep saying he’s making fun of his past self with these lyrics, but to me this is the wrong way to go about it. if eminem wants to show that hes changed from his past then it probably wasn’t the best idea to go for lyrical content thats just as offensive and shows no growth at all
I hate that I can never tell what side he is on sometimes. Like he says he isnt afraid to say anything, but then goes, GAY (as in happy). Like if you wanna be homophobic, then say it. But if you're saying being homophobic is wrong...then say that. Like honestly,for as brazen as he is, if he was more left leaning, it should be VERY obvious. He should just say, "fuck transphobic weirdos" Shouldnt have to be like, "haha yeah hes saying terrible things but he ACTUALLY loves the LGBTQ" Ok then why doesnt it seem like it? Why do I not know if he is making fun of them or is an ally. fuck dropping the trans word for controversy, drop a trump diss track. thatll get people talking, Shady xD
also the fact that his music and persona are only breeding more transphobia, like if your core audience is finding that in your music and having their transphobia and “gen z tryna cancel eminem” ideas validated, then i have a lot of questions about his true intentions. personally i would NEVER leave room for my lyrics to be interpreted in a way that gave terrible people more ammo and felt like they were accepted in my community. if he’s really not about that shit all he has to do is make a stupid story saying trans rights or something. sorry i basically just reiterated what you said lol, just hard agree
@@starseedgaon yea great artistry there. Just make everything very obvious and dry, thats super entertaining and makes for a great song. He has done that too btw, in the BET freestyle where he goes against trump and goes against any of his fans who are trump supporters. in that freestyle it is a statement he’s making, its not supposed to be entertaining, its simply a message he wanted to send out. Even in his song darkness where he advocates for gun laws, he doesn’t make the message clear until the end. If he did what you suggest, no, if anyone did that for a song, it would send out a good message yes but would make for a boring, unimpressive, unimaginative, and un-artistic song
@@fyoutube2294 Yes, never be obvious, always have people guessing wtf you mean. Its art that way! /s Thats crazy way to think haha. Let me just put this quote here, "Satire requires a clarity of purpose and target, lest it be mistaken for, and contribute to, that which it intends to criticize". Em could make entertaining songs where stuff is clear and doesnt give fuel to trans/lgbtq hate. But instead he is like hehe let me use trans people as fuel. hehe. Like, I want to think he is left leaning, but its getting harder and harder to find proof. We reaching at this point.
@@1313TommyGun its not “obvious” but its also not the the Da Vinci Code dude. Like if you seriously can’t make up your mind at this point, thats really on you. Like “hehe let me use trans people as fuel”? How can someone be so dense lol, I think in your mind thats difficult and fair enough, but if thats the case then so be it- honestly at this point thats on you and not him because its not that hard to see through it all im sorry. Like, you’re like “wow his behavior in real life shows he’s left leaning! But his artistic musical content is much more foggy despite having clearly gone against conservative politics like trump and bush, because I suppose it’s impossible to be edgy and be left leaning”. Like its one thing if you were like “he says he’s left, but its still not ok to say the things he says and I disagree with him, he shouldn’t be saying them no matter his stance, goals, or any context”, but you’re not saying that, you’re just oddly indecisive. And I never said “never be obvious” I said what you want him to do is boring. But I guess its ok to misrepresent my point to make it easier to retort. He literally even calls himself a democrat lol
3:44 The persona “slim shady” is exactly that a persona created as escapism from is drug issues and alcoholism and it’s not actually what he’s like he says he regrets not being there for his kids specifically Hallie (sorry for the incorrect spelling)
Not me being ur sole like 💀 Just commenting cuz I just saw u the other day in a reply for one of bbno$’s tour announcements, kinda crazy to find u here as well
I can’t believe there are adults so narcissistic that they need to be told this but: EVERY WORK OF ART GETS CRITIQUED!!! Seriously, if you cannot handle criticism you should not work in a creative field. Saying I don’t like something for a certain reason is not cancelling you, it’s me using my free speech. That is always how it has worked, gen Z didn’t invent criticizing things that are popular.
Yeah but when we were kids we complained about things _we_thought were wrong, now young people are complaining about things we _like!!_ 😭😭 That's like, cancelling or not free speech or something. Why is everyone so emotionally weak these days waaaaa😭😭😭. On a more serious note there is _far_ more incentive than disincentive to offend these days. I just made £50 off that comment.
I really want to see your opinion on the "Slim Shady versus Marshall Mathers" interview: he's quite clear in that interview where he stands on Trans rights and makes it clear that his character is literally just an obnoxious asshat who is a hypocritical reflection of himself and the bullying he used to face as a kid. Its very self-aware
@@Necrophyllis. Have you actually watched the interview, out of interest? There's very little "irony" in it at all: he quite literally says it outright in the interview where he stands and states he had to go through therapy in order to deal with his "misplaced aggression", which is why Slim Shady was not really the "saviour" everyone thinks he was, but instead someone who was "mentally 13, looking for some controversy".
@harryballsak1123 I mean, the character of Eminem is made up of 3 different personas: he does make it clear he's playing a character dozens of times (in his art AND in interviews, articles and his book) and he literally introduces himself by whichever ego he is in the songs in question. It kinda is an important point of satire and irony that it resemble reality, so putting a giant disclaimer of clarity would reduce the actual effectiveness of it. And it's funny that everyone says this only in the context of music as an art medium, but never in any other art form where "harmful attitudes" may reside. Or do the actors who play in Schindlers List, the Pianist or Downfall also need a disclaimer in front of every individual piece of work they do explaining they are actors and not representing Nazi attitudes due to their performative pieces? Or should media literacy be high enough that the people who take such attitudes at face value are relegated to mockery instead of being the target audience for many different forms of modern art?
@@Whocaresgoodbye my point was “the straight look is gorgeous too”, and that point is still valid whether it’s a wig or natural hair. Why do you have such a problem with me giving a compliment? Weird.
I admit I didn't really understand some parts, but it made me realized the album was really for the fans who actually understand him. I think the ones who whine about him not being the same are getting hit with "well doesn't matter what you want, I don't want that anymore". I always find the people who whine about how artists involved or change to be the worse, you don't have to like it but to want them to go back and be a certain way (especially if it was the worse part of their lives) is quite crazy to me.
@@harasnicole As another comment I saw point it out, it just shows the "fans'" lack of maturity. It must feel nice to get that out especially when you constantly hear "Hey go back to when you were good!" or something like that ☠
@TabbyWithMittens Yeah. I think even in the first song, he talks about how no artist is given their flowers until they die, and people really thought that he dissed Kendrick Lamar when he didn't if they had paid attention to the line just before where he goes "into the mind of a hater." Media literacy is dead, lol.
I love how EVERYONE is talking about how Gen Z or the trans community is trying to cancel Eminem or whatever but like I’ve only listened to Houdini & that’s absolutely it so, don’t know who created the fake feud but y’know, maybe they had too much free time on their hands.
After watching his interview with himself (Marshall and Slim Shady) I understand that his intention is to show how stupid and immature Slim Shady actually is, that being said, for one, he way overdid the trans references, and two I don't think the execution was very good regardless. He literally makes a joke in that interview about Stan and Love the Way You Lie about "writing the national anthems for stalkers and domestic abusers" and he does exactly the same thing here but it's SO overdone, beating the deadest horse.
for me, the only thing too far is deadnaming & missgendering Caitlyn Jenner, deadnaming+missgendering isnt simply disrespectful it is denying someone their humanity, in my opinion
I just wanted to point that no matter how hard you may try to convince yourself otherwise none of you would have a problem if he never said the word “trans” basically and this realization makes me laugh every single time
People really don’t get the album. Gen Zs really have an attention span is really limited. Isn’t really their fault, just needs more education. He’s for trans people. But if you can’t make fun of them, they aren’t relevant right?
addressing some of the comments: you shouldn't have to know an artist's entire life and backstory to know if someone's being transphobic or making fun of transphobes. i wholeheartedly agree with samantha. stop using trans hate to market your weird little album.
@@815superwolf true, but you don’t have to. Its just that some people really need it spelled out for them. You don’t need that backstory to tell he’s being sarcastic. Like what do you think the song “trouble” is for? Do you think he doesn’t like deaf and blind people too? Like hellooo
I'm transmasc and personally i enjoy some of eminem's music. I get where he was trying to go with this album like "killing off his old problematic self" but i think he definitely could've done it in a better way.
he's really sexist im a cis woman and that's why i can't listen to his shit anymore. i used to, but now it hits too close to home, his lyrics about normalizing rape. uh uh, can't fucking listen to that shit
[● Deadass didn't know this even existed, but with people providing explanations in the comment section, I think that the album's amazing in its own right. It's symbolic of the death of his persona, and how he evolved and grew overtime. I love when people change for the better ^_^]
I have listened to Eminem for a very very long time now. And let me say, despite his reasons, despite the fact that he's just showing how bad his persona can get and "cancelling" it, he still made an album with like half of the songs mentioning trans people and obviously in a mocking way. I don't care about any grown mans "persona", he doesn't need to make an album hating on trans people to show how ridiculous it is to hate trans people. Eminem comes off like a mad dad on Facebook and I can't even enjoy the music because of it.
3:26 “Kill shot” is right, because that was the name of Eminem’s diss track where he shit all over MGK for being - among other things - making some overly edgy jokes about Eminem’s kids. Kind of ironic that making edgy and unfunny jokes is now Eminem’s thing xD
A lot of the people who listen to the album don’t seem to understand what he was doing. Yes, he did have some trans jokes in there, but it’s him calling out his past self for things he said in the past.
@@kycampbell3441 he has them in the video uses their self given name. ps they are adopted and says in interviews he loves them the same as hailey his only birth child
I'd like to say we are not (gen z) canceling eminem. No one in my generation is canceling eminem. We were too focused with Eva Kris Tyson allegations and Mr beasts silence on it.
I think Eminem means well, and he tries his best to stay true to the character of slim shady, and I can applaud him for that, I think for the casual listener especially if they’re trans, there’s no like catharsis for sitting through all the off color remarks and crass jokes. For dedicated fans, they get his redemption arc, but that doesn’t really do enough to cancel out the weird cringey parts unless you’re invested in Eminem’s growth as an artist. I think where this project fails and where a song like auntie diaries really succeeds is that the provocative parts are IMMEDIATELY followed up with and also prefaced by context and a complete owning up to making harmful mistakes. On TDOSS you have to wait like 8 songs to get to Eminem even approaching these topics in a way that doesn’t revolve around cancel culture and by then, I’m so worn down it’s hard to care. My best friend ADORES Eminem and really loves this album so I went in wanting to love it, but I just can’t bring myself to. I think some elements of the album actively work against his intentions and he doesn’t really stick the landing to provide a compelling enough conclusion. That’s just my opinion tho and I hope people who like it, continue to enjoy the album.
I mean, if you've never liked Eminem, of course you won't understand what he's trying to say from beginning to end and will only see the worst. If you're going to try to break down his lyrics, you have to go below the surface level and really listen to the words because 10 times out of 10, there are multiple meanings of what he's talking about. Like, with all the entendres he does, the man says a LOT that a lot of people who aren't familiar with his rhyme schemes don't catch. Edit: Also, the album is a concept album, so if you're going to discuss it, it'd be better to do so from beginning to end instead of cherrypicking songs out of context. Hope that helps.
Slim Shady is basically Eminem's evil twin. The album is supposed to be listened thru to the end. It tells a story where Slim Shady came to our time, and eminem kills his alter ego because he doesn't agree with the things he said as slim shady. Also, Eminem's kid has a trans kid. That album has a ton of satire. Slim Shady told everyone possible to eff off, including Dre, his own kids, and myself (in like four different ways). I don't believe that Eminem is transphobic. I do think he has a past of using shocking lyrics against people who piss him off. Look at MGK. Everyone has the right to interpret art in their own way. But in my opinion, he's rebranding and leaving behind who he was when he was younger. Plus, it's not just Slim Shady and Eminem. Marshall Mathers is there, too.
@@K-Lowe Eminem achieves his 11th No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 chart (dated July 27) as his latest studio album, The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce), debuts atop the list.
Dude won't say the N-word, because it's 'not his word to use', despite *everyone* saying he has the card, but hw will use the f-slur and r-slur. Let that sink in a moment..
@@vladtheinhaler93 he didnt use the f word. And honestly, I know people are going to disagree but I don’t think the r word is a slur. Its a word that should be used with thought before hand depending on the context and whether it’s appropriate but I don’t think its a slur, nor do I think its flat out wrong to say
I think that Eminem is one of the few "controvertial" people in the public sphere whose alter ego and the jokes he makes are just that - jokes. Of course they stem from something - problematic childhood, abusive mother, extreme bullying etc. and music has been an outlet for him, but from my perspective he isn't somebody who is activelly homophobic or transphobic. He isn't trying to be a political commentator or going on a right-wing grift like some other people end up doing after receiving backlash. He's been extremely respectful to hip hop culture and has been very aware that he's one of the only white guys in a black culture. He dissed Candice Owens (right wing ex Daily Wire commentator) in two of his songs. If anything, during his career he's been a scapegoat for conservative people blaming his violent lyrics on why kids misbehave. And yes, of course Gen Z are going to find Eminem problematic. His generation did too. He's been clapping back for over 20 years and it's nothing new - he's a controvertial artist. The impulse to defend him might come from having positive impressions from some of his music and the general vibes I'm getting of him not really being that Slim Shady character, but that being said, I still think that your review did lack some context into his work at large. Of course, you don't have to like him and I also have had moments where some of his lyrics made me cringe, but in my opinion, making a proper critique of the work of someone like Em takes digging a bit deeper in his artistic career as a whole.
SAMANTHA, I WAS LISTENING TO AN OLD PROGRAM AND YOU WERE VERY UPSET. I THINK YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE YOUR STRAIGHT HAIR. IM A CIS MAN AND WISH YOU THE MOST HAPPINESS ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ok french person here. Coup de grâce prononciation lesson for those interests to sound fancy! lol Coup is like in a coup (d'état) when you try to overthrow someone. Like Ku in Japanese. K then oh. You don't pronounce the p at the end. Grâce is pronounced like grass but with the A sound of mardi grAs... Got it? You're welcome! 😂
1:16 I think that's unfair to say. I've watched lots of reactions to this album and the funny thing is, his trans "jokes" are so soft and repetitive that he actually made it cringe for his transphobic fans 😂. Wouldn't surprised me if he ruined the mono trans jokes for the internet and I'm here for it. I think something that's often forgotten in art, is that it is a form of human communication, so the way people react to it, is a huge part of the art piece. I think ultimately, this album was for his fans. It's imo an honest confession to them and an attempt to get them on the same healing path he's in right now. He seems to be towing the line between getting slim to relate to them by being an offensive bigot like they wanted, but still displaying it comes from ignorance and insecurities with marshall. Not saying you should like it, or that you're not entitled to critic it of course. I could be completely missing the mark, I'm no expert and I often give people way more credits than they deserve. But that's the impression the reactions gave to me. Still no matter what, I think at this point, you're absolutely entitled to refuse to see it from his side and insult him all you want. You are the one dealing with the bigotry from a vulnerable position, you won't be the one hurting him. Best wishes to you all, hope you'll be safe and happy.
6:47 Yo, he made a whole song about Christopher Reeve on the album. Kaitlyn Jenner got it light and she is in on the jokes. Watch Slim Shady Vs. Marshall Mathers - The Face-Off, it's a bit, and also another double entendre of the 90s movie. Wait, you just Eminem'd me didn't you because I haven't listened to the end yet? 🤣
I’m pretty sure you can listen to the album backwards and forwards so it’s Em killing shady and Shady killing Em Soooo I don’t think this a growing up thing
They jumping you in the comments but as someone queer I avoid Em’s stuff same as that one song Kendrick Lamar has. And I am a die hard Kdot stan. Idc if I’m missing the point of whatever, I’m not trying to hear that shit so I don’t listen to it. It makes me feel weird.
I agree - and imo, eminems is a shitty take- very .... sad nihilistic white man And failing to be an ally, wallowing in their own ego - like no STOP perpetuating and build something new
9:40 Es posible que Eminem habla mucho de la "LGBT" comunidad porque él quiere ser similar de ellos en realidad = proyección 🤔 "The Gender Spectrum - from masculine to feminine: Men / Queer Men / Non-binary / Trans-women / Queer Women / Women Trans-women & women have different pelvic anatomy. Men & non-binary people also have different pelvic structures & utilization. Discussions about gender identities must be taken seriously, as these definitions affect public spaces & others' lives. Pelvic qualities can be used to decide who can go to which bathroom or play in competitive sports. Identities aren't just words. They have lasting & irreversible consequences to those who choose to transition. People under 18 shouldn't be able to make such radical changes to their bodies - which often require surgery." Sociedad moderna necesita definiciones buenas de humanos diferentes y igualdad para todos personas 🌈
I haven’t listened to it but another creator said that this album the death of slim shady was him evolving into a better person and he has a trans son that he adopted
My husband has been defending this album because he is basically part of Eminems cult because hes such a huge fan.But my husband is also trans just like me . I feel like he just doesn't want to admit that Eminem is a trandphobe and that this album does damage to our community.
@@izzymaedavidson1974Or your husband actually understood the album.🤷 It's more about "you can't silence me even if you get mad" attitude. The song "Road Rage" is where he gets brutally honest, starting with the line "So transgender rights, where do I stand? Oh (uh)". Honestly what he said there is how a lot of men feel even if you don't wanna accept it. If you don't know what song I'm talking about or you didn't even listen to the album you really can't be talking.
@@Rebel-cd6gc I think mentioning trans people in a song with good or bad Intentions when you have that level status only does damage to the trans community. We don't need to be mentioned all the time everywhere that's what fuels people to hate us sadly. As far as where you stand on my rights I could care less because no one's opinion on trans existence matters except that of trans people themselves. And cis men are the only ones who get their fragile little feelings actually heard so . We just want to live our lives and not be politicized .
@@izzymaedavidson1974 Then why not just ignore it instead of giving it the attention. Live your life and let it go. We aren't the only ones heard, trust me we hear your complaining all over the internet.🤷 Accept yourself first without worrying what others think or say about you and then maybe people will start to do the same.
as a musician, i find this take... bad. if people only talked about music they liked, music discussion would be pointless. i believe that its good for public figures to give criticism to pieces of music, even when the criticism is invalid. when the criticism is bad it gives the person who is giving the criticism a chance to be corrected, and when the criticism is good it might cause people to think more critically about what they are listening to
That hair colore, and shade is quiet unique. It fits your style, and is overall something fresh, I like it. Hope your going to experiment whit it for a little.
For context I’m trans too, but I did thoroughly enjoy the album… I’m sorry, I really like Eminem 😭 (but not Caitlin, like outta all the trans people 🤦🏻♀️)
Eminem is one of those polorizing artists thats a cherry picker. I have more respect for Auntie Diaries by Kendrick because at least he is speaking from his experience with his trans Uncle and Cousin. Who he LOVES and RESPECTS. He owns his mistakes throughout the song and basically calls out his religion for being so hateful. Yes Eminem has an Adopted child who is non binary however, he has notoriously been homophobic, racist, transphobic, misogynistic throughout his career. Lets not forget the mix tapes in the 90s of him rapping about black women and calling them the n-word and calling them horrendous things. In the early 2000's use the f-slur openly and t-slur. You can have family thats trans and still be OPENLY hateful to the community. Hence why you dont hear Kendrick use the F or T slur anymore. Hes shown WAY more growth and change than Eminem ever could. Not to mention he is just always GIVING back to his communities and loving on them instead of shitting on them. So, screw Eminem. He still hates women, trans people, queer people, and black people regardless what any one thinks. Even with Houdini i saw nothing changed, especially with the Megan the Stallion line and the trans cat line. Hes old and should be retired by now 🙄
Yeah people seem to think because it's meant to be ironic it's okay to be transphobic. Like no. Cis men can use transphobia for a punch line without being inherently transphobic.
His music is not free from criticism, his actions are not free from criticism, neither are yours. If you actually lived your fucking life and stopped worrying about what people rap or joke about, you, me, eminem and the majority of the planet would enjoy life a bit more.
What about when hitler told his goons to bust down jewish front doors? Those damn jews would have has such great lives if they simply ignored the nazis busting into their homes!
I mean people who actually want to be better will put in the work, deconstructing their prejudices, unlearning their toxic views and actions, it takes some time but it works and it's worth it. Saying you just can't be better even if you want to be because it's too hard, is the lamest excuse to not actually be better.
I feel like I’m missing something. I’m 32, I’ve been an Eminem fan since childhood, and this current album is all about his Slim Shady persona. I know, as a fan, Shady is a character like Cartman on ‘South Park’ where everything Shady says is just shock value. It’s not Marshall’s true viewpoint, it’s just meant to offend. With that in mind, obviously the man Marshall Mathers is not transphobic or homophobic or anything like that. His NA/AA sponsor is Elton John! His daughter is non-binary! Like, there’s no way he’s anti-LGBTQ+
By that logic, the leader of the taIibancant possibly be misogynistic! He hasfemaIe supporters and he has daughters!! How about we judge people based on their own words and actions and not they are associated with
@@botanicalitus4194 No, I’m saying the Slim Shady persona is meant to be the anthesis to his own identity. Shady is the worst, most vile characteristics he can come up with. So, naturally, Shady is bigoted… along with being a serial killer and a rapist. It’s a character! Slim Shady is a character. Not Marshall’s true identity. For example, I have a pitbull. I love my dog more than I care about other people, but if I created a character around those annoying cunts who want to illegalize pits I could easily do that! It doesn’t mean I agree, that’s just a character. Get it?
@@botanicalitus4194 I mean, he's also been pretty explicit by supporting gay charities (including the aforementioned Elton John one, who has explicitly said people saying hes homophobic is "ridiculous" if you know him), being a beloved icon by many queer artists who cite him as their inspiration (e.g P!nk) and directly calling out his alter ego at the same time this album dropped for the material said in it. Literally transcribing it and reading it makes it pretty clear where he stands. Slim Shady: "Caitlyn Jenner is a man-bitch!" Marshall: "Bro, what the f*ck? You can't say that...." Slim Shady: "She's got tits and a dick: what is she?" Marshall: "It's fucking 2024 man: let people live their lives. The shit ain't got nothing to do with you: its not that fuckin' hard. Just respect whatever people wanna be called and keep it moving..."
10:25 The thing is, that you are marketing his album by talking about it too. It doesn´t matter how angry people are getting. As long as they are talking about him, he wins.
Look we all have slim in us it’s just that these days we can’t say anything without someone crying or being offended. Face it were all Evil were just hiding it
I haven’t listened to the album but what I know of slim shady, I think he’s more making a mockery of ppl in his generation. Like I mean they literally did that when he released Houdini and made up a whole “gen z try to cancel Eminem ✊🏻” moment. Honestly I hear the album isn’t his best, but I like the concept of what he’s doing (in terms of like the satire of his generation IF that’s what he’s actually doing) I do feel weird tho as a straight cis white man he’s doing it because I feel like him saying slurs even as a persona is still weird and it’d be better if it were someone from that community parodying their privileged counterpart. Also, ik it’s a persona, but I feel like Eminem needs something outside of that persona in his music tho (I don’t listen to his music tho, so maybe he does and I just haven’t picked it up). Anyways you look gorgeous as always 🫶🏻
Agree with your points/takes. Given the concept of the concept album, I thought there wouldn't be that much about trans people and more about other forms of hate that were more common in his past work. At the time of Slim's reign, Eminem's music was like primarily homophobic. There might've been some transphobic lyrics here and there but that wasn't anywhere close to the amount of homophobic lyrics and slurs he used and how often Slim Shady focused on gay people. If you teleported a homophobic guy from back then (character or not) into the modern day I'm pretty sure they'd be way more outraged and confused about the prevalence of gay acceptance rather than debates about trans people going on. Definitely agree the amount of trans related lyrics compared to lyrics about other groups was Eminem using the trans community for controversy and promotion, not just exploring the album concept and writing based on the offensiveness of Slim Shady in the past.
5:00 What? Who says that? 😂 Eminem has grown, we all have, but this album is not about growing moral character because Eminem always had that. This is Eminem challenging himself in skill and concept. Eminem has always been funny but not in this way where he is changing flows so many times in the same song, dropping double and triple entendres, and landing punchlines to boot. If you listen to the album in order it tells the tale of Marshall Mathers killing Slim Shady (basically a cleansing of his demons). But If you listen to it in reverse it tells the story of Slim Shady killing Marshall Mathers. The first sound we hear on the album is Slim Shady Hawk Tuah'ing on Marshall Mathers' dead body who died because he couldn't overcome his addictions. Which is also a double entendre. 😂
Luv ya girl but you literally didn't listen to the album and went the lazy "Eminem is canceled" route Super disappointing. You are smarter than this outrage bate crap dear. LITERALLY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE FULL Damn ALBUM
@@KitchenFreezer Wrote a song about his trans uncle that was literally fine. This person either understands both Kendrick and Eminem’s points or seriously missed both.
@@hondaaccord736 Oh no, I understand. This is the second time in a row Samantha Lux misunderstood a rapper. Insert Dr. Doofenshmirtz meme. Real talk: As a trans person who's also into hip-hop, I'm tired of her doing this again. She can't keep making a "call out" video then a week later be all "oopsy".
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Okay but the hair is giving Mabel Pines
Oh my god yes it really do be giving Mabel
For real for real
you're so real for that omg
I was going to say daphne from scooby doo! Samantha is stunning 😍
Lol my daughter just recently became randomly obsessed with gravity falls, shes watched both seasons twice! Its only been a week lol 😆 ironic you said that haha
In positive news, David Tennant is the best Trans Dad ever
So true omg
Yes! David is awesome!
Somebody call cps
Wait david tenant Is trans
@hoshi_gamer4391 no i think he has a trans kid? im not sure
as an eminem fan and fan of yours, to answer your question about who murdered slim shady i would say its eminem. i think the idea of this album is to show how ridiculous the persona can be. and that most people that agree with sim shady are just as ridiculous. i say that as his older work is much more offensive and as you say in this video he doesn't quite go as offensive as he could with it. i think that's down to him getting older, being a leftist and having a trans/non-binary child. a lot of the album i feel is a parody of modern conservative views. like the whole "cancel me" "gen z sucks".
that being said i dont want to downplay your take when i say that. i agree with you, you have every right to not be happy with what he says especially when it effects the trans community.
Yea, I just don’t think sam is used to “analyzing” rap music because she even missed what kendrick was doing on auntie diaries the first time around. She can still not like it and thats cool and I respect that but I just think she genuinely has a misconstrued notion on what eminem is actually doing on the album
@@fyoutube2294 i mean fair, but also with all the misinformation and transphobia out there i wouldn't blame her even with the concept in mind. its understandable that this album would be unsettling to hear if you're trans, so i dont wanna be invalidating that.
I'd buy that if the actual death of slim was like, in the middle of the album, not like, literally at the end. As it stands right now it feels like the whole arc is all just an excuse to make the edgy music he enjoys making without taking accountability.
@@katyyulig i definitely think that even with the concept in mind that its still valid to be unsettled by the transphobia, i dont mean to invalidate at all when i said this. but i do appreciate you also giving your take on this cause it is important that regardless of what eminem tried to do with the album that trans peoples feelings and opinions are taken into account.
@@katyyulig i actually think he doesn’t do that by revealing on guilty conscience 2 that it was all just and dream and even states “you’re not the judge or the jury, you’re just as guilty” and im sure others have said this but compared to how edgy eminem can be, this was really tame. It definitely was an excuse of sorts to tap back into his roots but rappers like jay z have done similar things like with his album “American gangster” where he’s years into fame and wealth but creates this concept to allow him to tap back into his roots where he was poor and hustling. I think artists use concepts regularly to have an excuse or to allow themselves to create from a different perspective than just their default because if you have an idea you want to manifest artistically, why limit yourself.
Eminem has an adopted non-binary child, and he’s friends with Elton John. It would be wacky to be supportive of the LGBTQ+ community and trash them on his music at the same time. His alter ego Slim Shady would be the bigot and Eminem canceled his alter ego for us. His family and friends knows he’s joking and trashing on the transphobes whining and complaining about free speech and not taking accountability when called out.
thank you!!!
i thought slim shady was just what he went by before changing his name to Eminem ☠
How is dead naming someone joking/ trashing transphobes? I'm curious of this line of thinking.
@@MxPotato84 He loves his non-transitioning afab any/all pronouns nonbinary child and he’s friends with a cis gay man.
What do either of those have to do with respecting trans women?
@@basinmason8143 that the set up he is not condoning that behavior he is setting up to mock it and call it immature later in the album. the album is a story each song leads into the next.
I went and listened to the whole album, read the lyrics of each song and skit.
Conclusion: a nostalgic retrospective that takes root in current issues, including transgender people, pc culture, and other rappers. In terms of quality, beat, and flow, it is smooth and engaging. It is self-aware but embraces the offensive, mean-spirited lyrics, mostly in the first half (before Guilty Conscience 2). It is clear that it's Slim Shady, his persona, the side of him that is all things gruesome and rebellious, but it's clear this side is still part of him. He wrote it, he's rapping it, but ultimately he aims to kill that part of him. In doing so, he says slurs and keeps going on and on about Caitlyn Jenner, even deadnaming her multiple times (guest stars included). Halfway through the album, he stops referencing Caitlyn Jenner and transgender people altogether once Slim Shady is "dead". It seems like he was trying to give a taste of what his content in his "old days" would've been like in the 2020s, and then transitioned into what he wants to be about today, primarily family.
It feels like he was taking shots at her specifically because of her political disgrace; I wholeheartedly disagree with the way he treated her, and the idea that respecting a trans person's identity until they fuck up bad enough is an awful idea with a slippery slope. Gender is a right, not a privilege to be taken from immoral or criminal people.
I genuinely don't think he intended to be transphobic or come off as such, but the effects are still there.
"Gender is a right, not a privilege to be taken from immoral or criminal people." so true. no one would ever misgender a cis person no matter what crimes they do or no matter if they destroyed half the world. but god forbid trans people exist and then theyll look for any way to justify their bigotry.
(ik the olympic girl was cis and got misgendered but that was from a place of transphobia and brain rot once again, whereas all the gross figures throughout history theyd never misgender once)
Thanks for your concise conclusion.
@@grymjaw I can't tell if that's sarcasm but thanks I think?
@@princess-violet I have no idea what his plans are. I was never very big on Eminem, only hearing his music and news on him tangentially.
Maybe he'll be rapping more about his worries about death and family, maybe it'll be more of the same but no slurs and contain less about violence and n3croph1lia and drugs. I couldn't tell you.
@@artistdudebro not sarcasm at all, I liked your post
The hair is HAIRING mama! 💅💅💅
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eminem is killing the worst part if him self in this album he doesn’t care about gen z. he thinks his old self is embarrasing this if for his fans and telling them him and them need to finally grow the fuck up. ps he has a nonbinary child and loves them they are in the music video for hudini
Wait he had a nonbinary kid?
yes and accepts them
thats part if why i love him
@@Stanleycupmarshmallowyeah. They appear in the Houdini mv with the “f my own kids, they’re brats” line.
he supports the lgbtq+ community he is just really weird
Eminems adopted kid came out as nonbinary 3 years ago and featured in the video for Houdini. His kid knows him better than we ever will.This album is Eminem killing off the Slim Shady personality, because he HAS grown and continues to grow. At least that is what I got from it, as an enby who grew up with Eminems music. The character has been such a large part of his brand for the majority of his career, that it only makes sense that he would make a statement out of killing him off. You don't kill off half your branding behind closed doors, you make a statement with it. That is what Eminem was doing here.
@@ThatElfTorunn same!!!
Does it allow em to play both sides? Claim to be spreading anti trans hate for cred with bigoted artists and appear like a supportive dad to team rainbow? 🤷♀️
@@claritybadb he isn’s playing both sides tho he supports the LGBTQ community!!! you can say that he should have been more clear he is mocking his old self. but he is not playing both sides
@@claritybadb he is more a messy supporter for the left too me personally. he can do better in being clear
Yeah, I love Samantga, but the only the fact he's playing a character that gets killed off halfway through is lost.
This is ridiculous. If you told me a year ago I would be defending Eminem for lyrics on an album about trans people I would have laughed in your face. The point of the album clearly went all the way around and over your head, this isn't an "anti-woke" album like people on the right have said. The sole point of the album was for Eminem to bury the "Slimy Shady" persona of his old self from the late 90s and early 00s as you are supposed to listen to the album in the chronological order in the album to get the payoff. With the jokes poking fun of everyone, (yes, even people on the right) this is one of the most "Eminem" Eminem albums ever. I know that this is a vary shallow description of it, but their are videos on TH-cam talking about it in a deeper depth then me or Samantha. Also just to say, Eminem is the voice of reason on this album and Slim Shady is the one making trans jokes. Just more reason why lyrical comprehension is key when hearing a song like "The story of O.J" by Jay-Z or "Money Trees" by Kendrick Lamar.
Oh my God yes
his fans keep saying he’s making fun of his past self with these lyrics, but to me this is the wrong way to go about it. if eminem wants to show that hes changed from his past then it probably wasn’t the best idea to go for lyrical content thats just as offensive and shows no growth at all
As a non binary, i agree katlyn jenner the republican should be mocked extensively by eminimen, i don't think eminimen is homophobic...
I hate that I can never tell what side he is on sometimes. Like he says he isnt afraid to say anything, but then goes, GAY (as in happy). Like if you wanna be homophobic, then say it. But if you're saying being homophobic is wrong...then say that. Like honestly,for as brazen as he is, if he was more left leaning, it should be VERY obvious. He should just say, "fuck transphobic weirdos"
Shouldnt have to be like, "haha yeah hes saying terrible things but he ACTUALLY loves the LGBTQ" Ok then why doesnt it seem like it? Why do I not know if he is making fun of them or is an ally. fuck dropping the trans word for controversy, drop a trump diss track. thatll get people talking, Shady xD
also the fact that his music and persona are only breeding more transphobia, like if your core audience is finding that in your music and having their transphobia and “gen z tryna cancel eminem” ideas validated, then i have a lot of questions about his true intentions. personally i would NEVER leave room for my lyrics to be interpreted in a way that gave terrible people more ammo and felt like they were accepted in my community. if he’s really not about that shit all he has to do is make a stupid story saying trans rights or something. sorry i basically just reiterated what you said lol, just hard agree
@@starseedgaon yea great artistry there. Just make everything very obvious and dry, thats super entertaining and makes for a great song. He has done that too btw, in the BET freestyle where he goes against trump and goes against any of his fans who are trump supporters. in that freestyle it is a statement he’s making, its not supposed to be entertaining, its simply a message he wanted to send out. Even in his song darkness where he advocates for gun laws, he doesn’t make the message clear until the end. If he did what you suggest, no, if anyone did that for a song, it would send out a good message yes but would make for a boring, unimpressive, unimaginative, and un-artistic song
@@fyoutube2294 Yes, never be obvious, always have people guessing wtf you mean. Its art that way! /s
Thats crazy way to think haha.
Let me just put this quote here, "Satire requires a clarity of purpose and target, lest it be mistaken for, and contribute to, that which it intends to criticize".
Em could make entertaining songs where stuff is clear and doesnt give fuel to trans/lgbtq hate. But instead he is like hehe let me use trans people as fuel. hehe.
Like, I want to think he is left leaning, but its getting harder and harder to find proof. We reaching at this point.
@@1313TommyGun its not “obvious” but its also not the the Da Vinci Code dude. Like if you seriously can’t make up your mind at this point, thats really on you. Like “hehe let me use trans people as fuel”? How can someone be so dense lol, I think in your mind thats difficult and fair enough, but if thats the case then so be it- honestly at this point thats on you and not him because its not that hard to see through it all im sorry. Like, you’re like “wow his behavior in real life shows he’s left leaning! But his artistic musical content is much more foggy despite having clearly gone against conservative politics like trump and bush, because I suppose it’s impossible to be edgy and be left leaning”.
Like its one thing if you were like “he says he’s left, but its still not ok to say the things he says and I disagree with him, he shouldn’t be saying them no matter his stance, goals, or any context”, but you’re not saying that, you’re just oddly indecisive. And I never said “never be obvious” I said what you want him to do is boring. But I guess its ok to misrepresent my point to make it easier to retort. He literally even calls himself a democrat lol
@@fyoutube2294 And im saying it wouldnt be boring. He would make it cool. Good artists do that.
And Tim Fool says he isnt right wing.
These haters are so original...🙄
Eminem aint no hater
cry 😂
@@Whocaresgoodbye So original, need to cry more?
@@walterblock5082 stay off the internet if you’re going to be offended freak!
@@walterblock5082 yes cry more weirdo
3:44 The persona “slim shady” is exactly that a persona created as escapism from is drug issues and alcoholism and it’s not actually what he’s like he says he regrets not being there for his kids specifically Hallie (sorry for the incorrect spelling)
Not me being ur sole like 💀 Just commenting cuz I just saw u the other day in a reply for one of bbno$’s tour announcements, kinda crazy to find u here as well
I love the new hair color, it’s giving fairytale character with the hairband
'Fem&m' VS. 'Femdrick LMAO' 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
@@thetoxicfanbase4756 freak
@@Whocaresgoodbye lmao what???
@@Whocaresgoodbye loser
women love transfeminem "chicka-chicka-chicka-cis shady im sick of him look at him"
Yeah no, Idgaf if its "just a character!" someone is playing, I'm absolutely sick of people using that excuse to spread transphobia ala Ricky Gervais
cry 😂
@GotosleepZzzZ kinda sounds like what you're doing. Your feefees hurt because someone thinks your favorite man is a pos 🤣🤣🤣
@GotosleepZzzZ awww his pfp is his bf! 🤣🤣🤣
@@cambriaofthevastoceans6721 childish reply’s lmao.
@@cambriaofthevastoceans6721 aww some freak is offended by words, how pathetic!
I can’t believe there are adults so narcissistic that they need to be told this but: EVERY WORK OF ART GETS CRITIQUED!!! Seriously, if you cannot handle criticism you should not work in a creative field. Saying I don’t like something for a certain reason is not cancelling you, it’s me using my free speech. That is always how it has worked, gen Z didn’t invent criticizing things that are popular.
Eminem didnt say sh about not wanting to be critiqued
@@Aspru I was referring to a general comment that she made about people who complain about “cancel culture”, not to Eminem specifically.
Yeah but when we were kids we complained about things _we_thought were wrong, now young people are complaining about things we _like!!_ 😭😭 That's like, cancelling or not free speech or something. Why is everyone so emotionally weak these days waaaaa😭😭😭.
On a more serious note there is _far_ more incentive than disincentive to offend these days. I just made £50 off that comment.
I really want to see your opinion on the "Slim Shady versus Marshall Mathers" interview: he's quite clear in that interview where he stands on Trans rights and makes it clear that his character is literally just an obnoxious asshat who is a hypocritical reflection of himself and the bullying he used to face as a kid.
Its very self-aware
Irony is a great way hide your negative opinions without the consequences. Ie what Marsha is doing with her new album.
@@Necrophyllis.
Have you actually watched the interview, out of interest? There's very little "irony" in it at all: he quite literally says it outright in the interview where he stands and states he had to go through therapy in order to deal with his "misplaced aggression", which is why Slim Shady was not really the "saviour" everyone thinks he was, but instead someone who was "mentally 13, looking for some controversy".
@@1215298 doesn't matter. "Slim shady" didn't need to be transphobic for clout.
Except his albums clearly says EMINEM not Slim Shady. If you want everyone to know you're playing a character you should make that clear
@harryballsak1123
I mean, the character of Eminem is made up of 3 different personas: he does make it clear he's playing a character dozens of times (in his art AND in interviews, articles and his book) and he literally introduces himself by whichever ego he is in the songs in question.
It kinda is an important point of satire and irony that it resemble reality, so putting a giant disclaimer of clarity would reduce the actual effectiveness of it. And it's funny that everyone says this only in the context of music as an art medium, but never in any other art form where "harmful attitudes" may reside.
Or do the actors who play in Schindlers List, the Pianist or Downfall also need a disclaimer in front of every individual piece of work they do explaining they are actors and not representing Nazi attitudes due to their performative pieces? Or should media literacy be high enough that the people who take such attitudes at face value are relegated to mockery instead of being the target audience for many different forms of modern art?
You really have the most beautiful and healthy hair! I have always admired the curls but the straight look is gorgeous too 👌🏻
It’s fake
@@Whocaresgoodbye my point remains.
@@Duchess1990 you don’t have a point because wigs aren’t real hair
@@Whocaresgoodbye my point was “the straight look is gorgeous too”, and that point is still valid whether it’s a wig or natural hair. Why do you have such a problem with me giving a compliment? Weird.
I admit I didn't really understand some parts, but it made me realized the album was really for the fans who actually understand him. I think the ones who whine about him not being the same are getting hit with "well doesn't matter what you want, I don't want that anymore". I always find the people who whine about how artists involved or change to be the worse, you don't have to like it but to want them to go back and be a certain way (especially if it was the worse part of their lives) is quite crazy to me.
Esp when the Eminem that a lot of people seem to "love" is when he was abusing drugs and alcohol.
@@harasnicole As another comment I saw point it out, it just shows the "fans'" lack of maturity. It must feel nice to get that out especially when you constantly hear "Hey go back to when you were good!" or something like that ☠
@TabbyWithMittens Yeah. I think even in the first song, he talks about how no artist is given their flowers until they die, and people really thought that he dissed Kendrick Lamar when he didn't if they had paid attention to the line just before where he goes "into the mind of a hater." Media literacy is dead, lol.
I love how EVERYONE is talking about how Gen Z or the trans community is trying to cancel Eminem or whatever but like I’ve only listened to Houdini & that’s absolutely it so, don’t know who created the fake feud but y’know, maybe they had too much free time on their hands.
After watching his interview with himself (Marshall and Slim Shady) I understand that his intention is to show how stupid and immature Slim Shady actually is, that being said, for one, he way overdid the trans references, and two I don't think the execution was very good regardless. He literally makes a joke in that interview about Stan and Love the Way You Lie about "writing the national anthems for stalkers and domestic abusers" and he does exactly the same thing here but it's SO overdone, beating the deadest horse.
for me, the only thing too far is deadnaming & missgendering Caitlyn Jenner, deadnaming+missgendering isnt simply disrespectful it is denying someone their humanity, in my opinion
This is literally THE point. He's showing how it's a stupid thing to do at this point, he's mocking the right-wingers obsession of immature jokes.
I just wanted to point that no matter how hard you may try to convince yourself otherwise none of you would have a problem if he never said the word “trans” basically and this realization makes me laugh every single time
@@aperson4436 can i have some of whatever the fuck you’re smoking?
People really don’t get the album.
Gen Zs really have an attention span is really limited. Isn’t really their fault, just needs more education.
He’s for trans people. But if you can’t make fun of them, they aren’t relevant right?
How can two walk together unless they’re in agreement
I agree but not with the making fun of ppl for not changing, it is hard especially when u have a personality disorder like ASPD.
addressing some of the comments: you shouldn't have to know an artist's entire life and backstory to know if someone's being transphobic or making fun of transphobes.
i wholeheartedly agree with samantha. stop using trans hate to market your weird little album.
@@815superwolf true, but you don’t have to. Its just that some people really need it spelled out for them. You don’t need that backstory to tell he’s being sarcastic. Like what do you think the song “trouble” is for? Do you think he doesn’t like deaf and blind people too? Like hellooo
@@815superwolf he doesn’t need trans freaks to sell market his album smh
As an LGBT person who is a lesbian Eminem is a rap Legend and I enjoyed his new album. Eminem cannot be canceled also part of generation Z
I'm transmasc and personally i enjoy some of eminem's music. I get where he was trying to go with this album like "killing off his old problematic self" but i think he definitely could've done it in a better way.
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he's really sexist im a cis woman and that's why i can't listen to his shit anymore. i used to, but now it hits too close to home, his lyrics about normalizing rape. uh uh, can't fucking listen to that shit
and if he's transphobic that is another reason i wouldn't want to listen to him. i haven't listened to eminem since like 2010
[● Deadass didn't know this even existed, but with people providing explanations in the comment section, I think that the album's amazing in its own right. It's symbolic of the death of his persona, and how he evolved and grew overtime. I love when people change for the better ^_^]
Cis man using transphobia for clout is in definition transphobic.
I grew up listening to Eminem, I seriously don't think he's hating on us.
Does Elton John hate trans people? They're friends.
I have listened to Eminem for a very very long time now. And let me say, despite his reasons, despite the fact that he's just showing how bad his persona can get and "cancelling" it, he still made an album with like half of the songs mentioning trans people and obviously in a mocking way. I don't care about any grown mans "persona", he doesn't need to make an album hating on trans people to show how ridiculous it is to hate trans people.
Eminem comes off like a mad dad on Facebook and I can't even enjoy the music because of it.
he literally is a mad dad on facebook lmaooo
3:26 “Kill shot” is right, because that was the name of Eminem’s diss track where he shit all over MGK for being - among other things - making some overly edgy jokes about Eminem’s kids.
Kind of ironic that making edgy and unfunny jokes is now Eminem’s thing xD
Didn't know that MGK being a pedo is an edgy joke...
white men never fail to confuse and disappoint
@@Soulwildxlovexat least we accept who we are.. “thing”
A lot of the people who listen to the album don’t seem to understand what he was doing. Yes, he did have some trans jokes in there, but it’s him calling out his past self for things he said in the past.
eminem loves his nonbinary kid
Genuine question: does he really? Why did he make a whole album hating trans people?
@@kycampbell3441 probably because he's attracted to them but can't admit it, it's quite lame actually.
@@kycampbell3441 he has them in the video uses their self given name. ps they are adopted and says in interviews he loves them the same as hailey his only birth child
@@dannymoneywell F you!!!!! Stevie(em’s kid) has socials and has never given any notion that their dad is abusive!!!!
@@kycampbell3441 He's making fun of his past self. You need to pay attention to more than just the lyrics.
I'd like to say we are not (gen z) canceling eminem. No one in my generation is canceling eminem. We were too focused with Eva Kris Tyson allegations and Mr beasts silence on it.
I think Eminem means well, and he tries his best to stay true to the character of slim shady, and I can applaud him for that, I think for the casual listener especially if they’re trans, there’s no like catharsis for sitting through all the off color remarks and crass jokes. For dedicated fans, they get his redemption arc, but that doesn’t really do enough to cancel out the weird cringey parts unless you’re invested in Eminem’s growth as an artist. I think where this project fails and where a song like auntie diaries really succeeds is that the provocative parts are IMMEDIATELY followed up with and also prefaced by context and a complete owning up to making harmful mistakes. On TDOSS you have to wait like 8 songs to get to Eminem even approaching these topics in a way that doesn’t revolve around cancel culture and by then, I’m so worn down it’s hard to care. My best friend ADORES Eminem and really loves this album so I went in wanting to love it, but I just can’t bring myself to. I think some elements of the album actively work against his intentions and he doesn’t really stick the landing to provide a compelling enough conclusion. That’s just my opinion tho and I hope people who like it, continue to enjoy the album.
I mean, if you've never liked Eminem, of course you won't understand what he's trying to say from beginning to end and will only see the worst. If you're going to try to break down his lyrics, you have to go below the surface level and really listen to the words because 10 times out of 10, there are multiple meanings of what he's talking about. Like, with all the entendres he does, the man says a LOT that a lot of people who aren't familiar with his rhyme schemes don't catch.
Edit: Also, the album is a concept album, so if you're going to discuss it, it'd be better to do so from beginning to end instead of cherrypicking songs out of context. Hope that helps.
"Double god forbid." LOL
Samatha with an amazing take per usual 🤩
Your hair slays so much also did you die it? It seems so much lighter
Slim Shady is basically Eminem's evil twin. The album is supposed to be listened thru to the end. It tells a story where Slim Shady came to our time, and eminem kills his alter ego because he doesn't agree with the things he said as slim shady.
Also, Eminem's kid has a trans kid.
That album has a ton of satire. Slim Shady told everyone possible to eff off, including Dre, his own kids, and myself (in like four different ways).
I don't believe that Eminem is transphobic. I do think he has a past of using shocking lyrics against people who piss him off. Look at MGK.
Everyone has the right to interpret art in their own way. But in my opinion, he's rebranding and leaving behind who he was when he was younger.
Plus, it's not just Slim Shady and Eminem. Marshall Mathers is there, too.
Imagine thinking that one of the highest selling artists of all-time needs clout 😂 Eminem IS clout, hints why you made this video
He was clout 20 years ago bro, he's not relevant anymore and that's ok 😭
What are you, a millennial?
@@K-Lowe Eminem achieves his 11th No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 chart (dated July 27) as his latest studio album, The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce), debuts atop the list.
@darrickbrown88 and then Taylor swift took it back a week later, he's not even top 20 and the album came out less than a month ago 💀
@K-Lowe irrelevant artists do not hit number one. You missed that entire point, but that's ok. 😏
Dude won't say the N-word, because it's 'not his word to use', despite *everyone* saying he has the card, but hw will use the f-slur and r-slur. Let that sink in a moment..
@@vladtheinhaler93 he didnt use the f word. And honestly, I know people are going to disagree but I don’t think the r word is a slur. Its a word that should be used with thought before hand depending on the context and whether it’s appropriate but I don’t think its a slur, nor do I think its flat out wrong to say
@@fyoutube2294 it's a slur, are you disabled? if not, you don't even get to have a thought on it
Isn’t there a compilation on TH-camr of him saying the n word 😭
@@fyoutube2294 Uh…and when exactly do you think the r-slur is appropriate?
Hint: It never is.
Are we talking about the Ra word or the Re word.
I love Eminem. This has been who he is his entire career, it’s why people either love him or hate him.
True
among other things
✨️THIS HAIR!!! 💙
LOVE the wig
It went over your head😂😂😂
it went over yours lol. no one needs to make a transphobic album to show how bad transphobia looks. it's just an excuse to say that shit lol
I think that Eminem is one of the few "controvertial" people in the public sphere whose alter ego and the jokes he makes are just that - jokes. Of course they stem from something - problematic childhood, abusive mother, extreme bullying etc. and music has been an outlet for him, but from my perspective he isn't somebody who is activelly homophobic or transphobic. He isn't trying to be a political commentator or going on a right-wing grift like some other people end up doing after receiving backlash. He's been extremely respectful to hip hop culture and has been very aware that he's one of the only white guys in a black culture. He dissed Candice Owens (right wing ex Daily Wire commentator) in two of his songs. If anything, during his career he's been a scapegoat for conservative people blaming his violent lyrics on why kids misbehave. And yes, of course Gen Z are going to find Eminem problematic. His generation did too. He's been clapping back for over 20 years and it's nothing new - he's a controvertial artist.
The impulse to defend him might come from having positive impressions from some of his music and the general vibes I'm getting of him not really being that Slim Shady character, but that being said, I still think that your review did lack some context into his work at large. Of course, you don't have to like him and I also have had moments where some of his lyrics made me cringe, but in my opinion, making a proper critique of the work of someone like Em takes digging a bit deeper in his artistic career as a whole.
SAMANTHA, I WAS LISTENING TO AN OLD PROGRAM AND YOU WERE VERY UPSET. I THINK YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE YOUR STRAIGHT HAIR. IM A CIS MAN AND WISH YOU THE MOST HAPPINESS ❤❤❤❤❤❤
“Retired” artist. Do you live under a rock? Lol
Ok french person here. Coup de grâce prononciation lesson for those interests to sound fancy! lol
Coup is like in a coup (d'état) when you try to overthrow someone. Like Ku in Japanese. K then oh. You don't pronounce the p at the end.
Grâce is pronounced like grass but with the A sound of mardi grAs...
Got it? You're welcome! 😂
1:16 I think that's unfair to say. I've watched lots of reactions to this album and the funny thing is, his trans "jokes" are so soft and repetitive that he actually made it cringe for his transphobic fans 😂. Wouldn't surprised me if he ruined the mono trans jokes for the internet and I'm here for it.
I think something that's often forgotten in art, is that it is a form of human communication, so the way people react to it, is a huge part of the art piece.
I think ultimately, this album was for his fans. It's imo an honest confession to them and an attempt to get them on the same healing path he's in right now. He seems to be towing the line between getting slim to relate to them by being an offensive bigot like they wanted, but still displaying it comes from ignorance and insecurities with marshall.
Not saying you should like it, or that you're not entitled to critic it of course. I could be completely missing the mark, I'm no expert and I often give people way more credits than they deserve. But that's the impression the reactions gave to me.
Still no matter what, I think at this point, you're absolutely entitled to refuse to see it from his side and insult him all you want. You are the one dealing with the bigotry from a vulnerable position, you won't be the one hurting him.
Best wishes to you all, hope you'll be safe and happy.
6:47 Yo, he made a whole song about Christopher Reeve on the album. Kaitlyn Jenner got it light and she is in on the jokes. Watch Slim Shady Vs. Marshall Mathers - The Face-Off, it's a bit, and also another double entendre of the 90s movie. Wait, you just Eminem'd me didn't you because I haven't listened to the end yet? 🤣
I’m pretty sure you can listen to the album backwards and forwards so it’s Em killing shady and Shady killing Em
Soooo I don’t think this a growing up thing
I only just found you, the mention of Zelda summoned me 😃
They jumping you in the comments but as someone queer I avoid Em’s stuff same as that one song Kendrick Lamar has. And I am a die hard Kdot stan. Idc if I’m missing the point of whatever, I’m not trying to hear that shit so I don’t listen to it. It makes me feel weird.
Why should we accept you for who you are when you can’t accept yourself for who you are 🤦♂️
Watch his Face Off on Complex, would LOVE your commentary/reaction. It's basically the interview after the album. With his younger self.
Did you ignore guilty conscience
Eminem's new album is just "Sometimes you have to be a bigot, to bring down bigger bigots" the album.
I agree - and imo, eminems is a shitty take- very .... sad nihilistic white man
And failing to be an ally, wallowing in their own ego - like no STOP perpetuating and build something new
it's so dumb lol
Funny how you want to be the victim also.
9:40 Es posible que Eminem habla mucho de la "LGBT" comunidad porque él quiere ser similar de ellos en realidad = proyección 🤔
"The Gender Spectrum - from masculine to feminine:
Men / Queer Men / Non-binary / Trans-women / Queer Women / Women
Trans-women & women have different pelvic anatomy. Men & non-binary people also have different pelvic structures & utilization.
Discussions about gender identities must be taken seriously, as these definitions affect public spaces & others' lives. Pelvic qualities can be used to decide who can go to which bathroom or play in competitive sports.
Identities aren't just words. They have lasting & irreversible consequences to those who choose to transition. People under 18 shouldn't be able to make such radical changes to their bodies - which often require surgery."
Sociedad moderna necesita definiciones buenas de humanos diferentes y igualdad para todos personas 🌈
I haven’t listened to it but another creator said that this album the death of slim shady was him evolving into a better person and he has a trans son that he adopted
My husband has been defending this album because he is basically part of Eminems cult because hes such a huge fan.But my husband is also trans just like me . I feel like he just doesn't want to admit that Eminem is a trandphobe and that this album does damage to our community.
😂 shut up
@@Whocaresgoodbye what why?
@@izzymaedavidson1974Or your husband actually understood the album.🤷 It's more about "you can't silence me even if you get mad" attitude. The song "Road Rage" is where he gets brutally honest, starting with the line "So transgender rights, where do I stand? Oh (uh)". Honestly what he said there is how a lot of men feel even if you don't wanna accept it. If you don't know what song I'm talking about or you didn't even listen to the album you really can't be talking.
@@Rebel-cd6gc I think mentioning trans people in a song with good or bad Intentions when you have that level status only does damage to the trans community. We don't need to be mentioned all the time everywhere that's what fuels people to hate us sadly. As far as where you stand on my rights I could care less because no one's opinion on trans existence matters except that of trans people themselves. And cis men are the only ones who get their fragile little feelings actually heard so . We just want to live our lives and not be politicized .
@@izzymaedavidson1974 Then why not just ignore it instead of giving it the attention. Live your life and let it go. We aren't the only ones heard, trust me we hear your complaining all over the internet.🤷 Accept yourself first without worrying what others think or say about you and then maybe people will start to do the same.
The Skittle bit got me
That thing is the true skittle
He gives them evolved Em, they scream "I want the old Em. He gives them the old Em, they scream "bigot"
Girl your hair it’s giving 💅💅💅 love it
Nobody cares. If you don’t like it and can’t handle it just don’t listen and move along, simple.
Womp womp.
as a musician, i find this take... bad. if people only talked about music they liked, music discussion would be pointless. i believe that its good for public figures to give criticism to pieces of music, even when the criticism is invalid. when the criticism is bad it gives the person who is giving the criticism a chance to be corrected, and when the criticism is good it might cause people to think more critically about what they are listening to
apologies, "invalid" is not the right word. i think "bad" would be a better word to use
I wanted to get into this album. Well,maybe next time. Thanks for the video.
That hair colore, and shade is quiet unique. It fits your style, and is overall something fresh, I like it. Hope your going to experiment whit it for a little.
Dammit Shady, how you gonna make a girl have to apologies for being too fair.
Bad form.
This is great marketing as always. It got streamed from me at least once.
For context I’m trans too, but I did thoroughly enjoy the album… I’m sorry, I really like Eminem 😭 (but not Caitlin, like outta all the trans people 🤦🏻♀️)
His daughter Hayley only got one song but Caitlyn got like 6.
🤦♂️
Example:
Marshall Mathers/Slim Shady
Boy/Girl
2 identities. Same person. Fun!
Eminem is one of those polorizing artists thats a cherry picker. I have more respect for Auntie Diaries by Kendrick because at least he is speaking from his experience with his trans Uncle and Cousin. Who he LOVES and RESPECTS. He owns his mistakes throughout the song and basically calls out his religion for being so hateful.
Yes Eminem has an Adopted child who is non binary however, he has notoriously been homophobic, racist, transphobic, misogynistic throughout his career. Lets not forget the mix tapes in the 90s of him rapping about black women and calling them the n-word and calling them horrendous things. In the early 2000's use the f-slur openly and t-slur.
You can have family thats trans and still be OPENLY hateful to the community. Hence why you dont hear Kendrick use the F or T slur anymore. Hes shown WAY more growth and change than Eminem ever could. Not to mention he is just always GIVING back to his communities and loving on them instead of shitting on them. So, screw Eminem. He still hates women, trans people, queer people, and black people regardless what any one thinks. Even with Houdini i saw nothing changed, especially with the Megan the Stallion line and the trans cat line. Hes old and should be retired by now 🙄
Yeah people seem to think because it's meant to be ironic it's okay to be transphobic. Like no. Cis men can use transphobia for a punch line without being inherently transphobic.
His music is not free from criticism, his actions are not free from criticism, neither are yours. If you actually lived your fucking life and stopped worrying about what people rap or joke about, you, me, eminem and the majority of the planet would enjoy life a bit more.
What about when hitler told his goons to bust down jewish front doors? Those damn jews would have has such great lives if they simply ignored the nazis busting into their homes!
I mean people who actually want to be better will put in the work, deconstructing their prejudices, unlearning their toxic views and actions, it takes some time but it works and it's worth it.
Saying you just can't be better even if you want to be because it's too hard, is the lamest excuse to not actually be better.
I feel like I’m missing something.
I’m 32, I’ve been an Eminem fan since childhood, and this current album is all about his Slim Shady persona. I know, as a fan, Shady is a character like Cartman on ‘South Park’ where everything Shady says is just shock value. It’s not Marshall’s true viewpoint, it’s just meant to offend.
With that in mind, obviously the man Marshall Mathers is not transphobic or homophobic or anything like that. His NA/AA sponsor is Elton John! His daughter is non-binary! Like, there’s no way he’s anti-LGBTQ+
So there's no way he's anti Igbt because a gayguy likes him and he has an NB daughter? Thats really the best yaII can do?
By that logic, the leader of the taIibancant possibly be misogynistic! He hasfemaIe supporters and he has daughters!!
How about we judge people based on their own words and actions and not they are associated with
@@botanicalitus4194 No, I’m saying the Slim Shady persona is meant to be the anthesis to his own identity. Shady is the worst, most vile characteristics he can come up with. So, naturally, Shady is bigoted… along with being a serial killer and a rapist.
It’s a character! Slim Shady is a character. Not Marshall’s true identity. For example, I have a pitbull. I love my dog more than I care about other people, but if I created a character around those annoying cunts who want to illegalize pits I could easily do that! It doesn’t mean I agree, that’s just a character. Get it?
@@botanicalitus4194
I mean, he's also been pretty explicit by supporting gay charities (including the aforementioned Elton John one, who has explicitly said people saying hes homophobic is "ridiculous" if you know him), being a beloved icon by many queer artists who cite him as their inspiration (e.g P!nk) and directly calling out his alter ego at the same time this album dropped for the material said in it.
Literally transcribing it and reading it makes it pretty clear where he stands.
Slim Shady: "Caitlyn Jenner is a man-bitch!"
Marshall: "Bro, what the f*ck? You can't say that...."
Slim Shady: "She's got tits and a dick: what is she?"
Marshall: "It's fucking 2024 man: let people live their lives. The shit ain't got nothing to do with you: its not that fuckin' hard. Just respect whatever people wanna be called and keep it moving..."
If his child is non binary... why call them daughter???
10:25 The thing is, that you are marketing his album by talking about it too. It doesn´t matter how angry people are getting. As long as they are talking about him, he wins.
Love the hair!❤
Look we all have slim in us it’s just that these days we can’t say anything without someone crying or being offended. Face it were all Evil were just hiding it
No, some of just dont feel the need to call people slurs and straight up disrespect them. Its not edgy lol, youre just a bad person.
I haven’t listened to the album but what I know of slim shady, I think he’s more making a mockery of ppl in his generation. Like I mean they literally did that when he released Houdini and made up a whole “gen z try to cancel Eminem ✊🏻” moment. Honestly I hear the album isn’t his best, but I like the concept of what he’s doing (in terms of like the satire of his generation IF that’s what he’s actually doing) I do feel weird tho as a straight cis white man he’s doing it because I feel like him saying slurs even as a persona is still weird and it’d be better if it were someone from that community parodying their privileged counterpart. Also, ik it’s a persona, but I feel like Eminem needs something outside of that persona in his music tho (I don’t listen to his music tho, so maybe he does and I just haven’t picked it up). Anyways you look gorgeous as always 🫶🏻
Sam I love your videos and I love having the safe space as a young trans person ^^ tysm!! ❤
First !
Love the new look 😊
Its art.... G E T O V E R I T T T T T T TT T T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
@@HoldenAwesomeeI care more about their gaming channel than I do about you 🤷♂️
@@Whocaresgoodbye All km saying is its art eminem legit has a non binary child bro do you genuinely think he Hates them
@@Whocaresgoodbyewho’s their? there’s only one woman in the video
Agree with your points/takes. Given the concept of the concept album, I thought there wouldn't be that much about trans people and more about other forms of hate that were more common in his past work. At the time of Slim's reign, Eminem's music was like primarily homophobic. There might've been some transphobic lyrics here and there but that wasn't anywhere close to the amount of homophobic lyrics and slurs he used and how often Slim Shady focused on gay people. If you teleported a homophobic guy from back then (character or not) into the modern day I'm pretty sure they'd be way more outraged and confused about the prevalence of gay acceptance rather than debates about trans people going on. Definitely agree the amount of trans related lyrics compared to lyrics about other groups was Eminem using the trans community for controversy and promotion, not just exploring the album concept and writing based on the offensiveness of Slim Shady in the past.
5:00 What? Who says that? 😂
Eminem has grown, we all have, but this album is not about growing moral character because Eminem always had that. This is Eminem challenging himself in skill and concept. Eminem has always been funny but not in this way where he is changing flows so many times in the same song, dropping double and triple entendres, and landing punchlines to boot. If you listen to the album in order it tells the tale of Marshall Mathers killing Slim Shady (basically a cleansing of his demons). But If you listen to it in reverse it tells the story of Slim Shady killing Marshall Mathers. The first sound we hear on the album is Slim Shady Hawk Tuah'ing on Marshall Mathers' dead body who died because he couldn't overcome his addictions. Which is also a double entendre. 😂
when curly hair goes straight i go yummmmmmmmmmm
PC = Perfectly Crafted 👍
Okie but the hair is absolutely gorgeous
Your hair looks amazing Samantha you look gorg 💝🌈
You are so pretty. That hairstyle is cute 💖
Love the look today! She’s looking super cute! 😭👏🤍
All I'll say is learn how to take a joke that's all
learn how to stay out of something that isn’t your business George
You’re the only one offended 😂
I love the soft Look, it's giving cottage core.
Luv ya girl but you literally didn't listen to the album and went the lazy "Eminem is canceled" route
Super disappointing.
You are smarter than this outrage bate crap dear.
LITERALLY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE FULL Damn ALBUM
This is Kendrick Lamar all over again🤦
Lol seems so
Sorry but what did kendrick do? I'm not very educated.
@@KitchenFreezer
Wrote a song about his trans uncle that was literally fine. This person either understands both Kendrick and Eminem’s points or seriously missed both.
@@hondaaccord736 ohh thanks.
@@hondaaccord736 Oh no, I understand. This is the second time in a row Samantha Lux misunderstood a rapper. Insert Dr. Doofenshmirtz meme. Real talk: As a trans person who's also into hip-hop, I'm tired of her doing this again. She can't keep making a "call out" video then a week later be all "oopsy".
My son says to tell you hello he hopes that your doing ok he thinks about you a lot and hopes to meet you he sends his love
Your giving Connie From Texas chainsaw the game❤
literally exactly what i thought too lolllll