My friend bought a red twin turbo manual 16 years ago, in mint condition for £8,500. He recently insured it for an agreed value of £48,000 which was the figure the insurer came up with!
Yep I believe you. My little brother got ribbed by his mates 15 years ago for shelling out £7.5 k on a UK spec Turbo manual. He's got that valued at 50k by Adrian flux.
A crime to have this car without a manual. Rode in one back in the day, was gobsmacked. A highwater mark for Toyota. And another wonderful No.27 video. Full marks.
@Low760 True, a well sorted auto can outperform a manual. It's just not as engaging. And it can't be jumpstarted by rolling the car iand then letting out the clutch in an emergency. Also, you can't slip it in and out of neutral with a clutch pedal because you don't have one. Numbers favor automatics- driving fun and control favors manuals. If a car has just stupid speed and acceleration a manual may not work. Formula One. Or most hypercars. I have driven and owned both. By both I mean auto and manuals, I have not owned or driven a Formula One or hypercar. Yet. My 306 hp FK8 ( Type R) is best with a manual. Which is why it only came that way.
@@PaulAndBiscuit I wouldn't say one is "better" than the other really, different strokes for different folks. If you have low testosterone get the auto, if not get the manual 👍
Love 95 N/A manual. Had her 20 yrs. Is my daily and well over 250k miles. Solid reliability and mild on maintenance costs. Puts a smile on my face everytime I turn the key still.
Sadly these cars never sold much in my country (Netherlands). I only knew of one, a green Supra in a more afluent part of my surroundings. But I like this version so much more than the BMW Supra. The '80s and '90s were the best decades for cars imho, at least for Japanese cars.
I've had mine for three years and it's fantastic :) The auto turns it into a cruise, driving a manual, even an N/A is so much more engaged and brings back the 90's fun and feel. Great video, nice to see one on the channel.
I have great fun in my old manual 6 speed getrag, Supra A80 Twin turbo just like this one from 93. What a great car it was. Good too see it again in your reviews Jack
I've always liked these and wanted one when they first came out (couldn't afford one then, still can't as a third car in the garage). I still like them in SPITE of fast and furious associating itself with these great cars.
Good to hear, that the auto doesn‘t suck too hard. I can‘t use manuals - so there‘d be a chance for me. The Mk 4 was heavy, though, despite all the tech. More than 1600 kilograms with a full tank, but no driver. I had a non-turbo manual one following my 100hp Smart Roadster for an afternoon and the driver said in terms of uphill acceleration, he couldn’t claw back what he lost in corners. Power to weight in the same ballpark.
I had the opportunity to buy one around 2007. This was however an auto. Thought to myself, I'll wait a bit until I find a manual one. After that they only became more and more expensive and buying a good one was no longer an option. Many thanks for the video Jack! Greetings from the Netherlands
Great car, it wasn't just that the engine was so tuneabl3, it was also because the stock gearbox was able to withstand the extra power too. Incredible car.
I love the supra! My friend has a black one in pristine condition, some very tastefully done mods and a power increase to around 600bhp to the wheels.....it's an old school rocket ship that sadly hardly ever gets driven! Cracking stuff as always Jack buddy 👍
Morning (here) Jack. Well said re the current supra. I was chatting to my daughter who loves retro cars and we both agreed that toyota was really good up until about 2007. She was looking at buying a supra lol. (Oh! Ive spent the week valuing ferraris and in the mix was a P25 only one in Aus) 😊
These came out when I was of College age and into my young adulthood. The 2nd and 3rd generations of these cars were very popular and moderately priced. But this generation had that currency slip that impacted the other Japanese sports cars so there were very few in number in my area. Prices in the mid $50's was just too much for a young person to afford back then as I paid $110,000 for my first house in 1998. A few years later I was doing some work for a Mitshbishi dealer and it got much worse for the last year of the 3000GT with those prices really exploding causing a serious lot rot.
Another factor in buying now is whether they have been modified. To find a stock car with a manual will become more difficult and costly. There was a YT show in the US a few years ago to test tuner cars in different conditions. There was a Supra with drag tires that developed 800 plus hp. It would spin its the tires and lose lateral stability in 3 gear when the boost kicked in.Then you had to slow it down ...
History was very much revised on these. I remember in the 90s most felt they were heavy and didnt handle all that well. The mod scene didn't take off until late in their life either
I purchased an ‘83 manual Supra brand new.. When the featured car here debuted in ‘93, it stickered for 49k in the US.. The price alienated me and probably many more Supra owners..no bueno
A "challenge" for you. A 1990's Mazda Eunos Cosmo. Super rare yes, probably none in the UK, despite being RHD's. I would love a review of this car from you honestly 🙏🏻
I had a supra auto some years ago. The auto box was dreadful , I’d have kept it longer if it was a manual. It just wanted to shift into 4th asap and you had to brake going down hills in town all the time as it wouldn’t give engine braking.
Thanks great review, a UK one too! I still don't get how it didn't sell well here. Autocar actually described it as a Japanese take on supercar like the NSX.
Blimey a Standard Supra. Rare as Rocking Horse Poo. You can certainly see how the Modding disease started on these Cars. Just waking that Engine up with a Better Flowing and Sounding Exhaust would have to be a Must on these. Then a Tune to match and then... Another great Review Jack thanks.
The JDM cars were never 280bhp, that was just a gentleman's agreement between the major Japanese manufacturers, including Nissan who also quoted 280 on the RB26. The difference with the JDM engines were the use of ceramic turbines in the turbos. These spooled up faster but could delaminate at over 1 bar of boost. The export cars had steel turbines in the turbos. I've run the JZ in a Land Rover discovery with a 5 speed manual and now have one in a 1970 Jag XJ6 S1.
I was at an event in Dublin mid or late 90's , Eddie Irvine arrived in a Supra. Didn't get to speak to him, he was only interested in talking to the women lol
I am confused to why every review of an auto supra mkiv , NEVER use the manual mode, i have owned my supra for 20 years, i change gears manually on it when i go for a spirited drive, it changes gear fast enough, almost 0 turbo lag if i red line it in 1st 2nd and 3rd, and fourth comes in automatically, so please use the manual option guys when you review these AWSOME cars
Totally agree with your statement the auto box driven in manual is fantastic, changes gear fast and gives engine brake. Swapped mine out for a 6spd box but in hindsight in my opinion was a better car with the autobox.
I might just be an old codger...but I prefer the Mk2 & Mk3 to this. Very nearly bought a used Mk2 back in the mid '90's, but eventually head ruled the heart, and I went for the sensible alternative and bought a Honda Accord, which was a great car, but I would dearly love to be able to get a Mk2 Supra as a classic at some stage. Cheers!
Wonder if my old 1995 Supra Turbo is still out there? Owned it from around 2005-2008. Silver JDM auto; RZ-S trim (big brakes, 17" wheels, limited slip diff and leather interior). N562 CDC???
You can get away with 800hp on the stock parts. That is why the Supra became a legend. Beefed up, the sky's the limit. That was in an era when it was unthinkable to modify a Ferrari or Lamborghini. Mclaren F1 had 630hp and sure it had top speed. But you COULD modify a Toyota Supra for the 200mph club. There were no Skylines in the states either, til the R35 in 09. The "not another LS build." That specific turbo prepped block wasn't in the Lexus SC300, the SC300 is not as popular.
I had a paper round in 93/34 and someone I delivered to had a silver one of these. Back then you could have landed a spaceship on the roof and it wouldn't have looked any wilder. I still think they are one of the best looking cars ever.
Toyota Supra MK4 is such a legendary car! Its influence extends far beyond Gran Turismo and Fast and Furious-it's a masterpiece of engineering with that iconic 2JZ engine and design. What do you think made it resonate so deeply with car enthusiasts compared to other JDM legends? Awesome videol!
What I never got about the Supra is that the Celica GT-four of the same period actually feels more practical with more interior and boot space, despite having a 4wd system & being basically the same 2 door hatchback coupe shape but the 'smaller' car in the range at the time?
I think a more accurate comparison would be with a r33 skyline gtr. Having owned a supra, skyline, gt3000 and a rx7 at the same time, I had a chance to compare them all😊
I almost bought one of these in the early 00s but got an MR2 Turbo instead because it was quite a bit less expensive and I thought it looked cooler. To this day I still debate that choice.
I don’t play the video games and I’ve never watched a fast and furious movie. I think that why I do not understand the crazy values on these now nor do I have much love for it.
I always liked these but never got around to buying one as they were just out of my price range. My dad had a Mk3 non turbo which was a great car, although sadly it was also an auto.
I was allowed to drive one of those for a day in my neck of the woods in Essex, when I was 19. Trust me when I say I got a heck of a lot of looks going through the various towns.
My dad had an auto twin turbo, 5 sec 0-60 not a slouch... brakes were a bit wooden and hard to disguise the weight! 1600+kg was heavy compared to Porsches of the era
well your comment is funny, cause you also didnt add any value to the conversation. Just pretending to be above others, which if you have to make that point means, you're not.
@maxmeier532 well if you want value out of my comment, I have been around these cars for 20 odd years and know the specs of euro cars, US cars and JDM cars far more than I need too. So when people comment, they didn't have this or have that or this is wrong that is wrong, yes I do find it funny, but hey ho, have a good day.
take out the secondary cat, increase boost to 1.2bar and it instantly goes to 440hp. Peak of Toyota engineering, prices have dipped especially for ones in need of TLC.
Vehicles built in Japan have tremendous build quality, and none more so than Toyota, of course. That said, the other factors of possible import, may be comfort, style and ride quality. Most folk who own a Ferrari or Aston Martin have a sense of the ephemera in their cars, which is not available in mass market cars. . So, people seek exclusivity. Not me, however. It is reliability first, with everything else a cherry on top.
Whoever signed off on those wheels must have had stocks in an after market wheel supplier, right? In general, that Supra cried out for some personalising. It's a symbol of untapped possibilities. Which is not a bad thing, actually. I like making things more personal. 'That's mine, as you obviously know'. Plays havoc with retail price, but I'm not in that game.
That's actually a nice game to play: if you had one, what would you do to it? Me, I think 350hp would be enough as long as it was revvy. A manual. Light LSD. Pro shocks, that's a must have. Wheels and just a bit lower rideheight. A nice sound, something close to a grA rallycar, that light, chirpy sound. After that, cosmetics. Something to make it look just a bit less smooth, it really was an egg on wheels. Colour? That's tough. I could go over that for days and still not know. And I'd loose the rearseats altogether. Just make it a two seater and lose the pretense. I always hated that 2+2 chicanery. It was just lies, but you pay for some fine leather seats anyway.
When they took the Supra racing in Japan back in the days they still got beaten by Nissan on track so Toyota pulled out the brilliant 2JZ to replace it by (I believe ) the 3S-GT four cylinder to save weight and finally beat Nissan.
@10:52 "rust doesn't effect them too badly..." i respectfully disagree, ive seen ones with holes big enough to stick my fist through. I remember flicking through the pages of my weekly autotrader magazine even before i could drive and seeing a selection of mk4 supras all under 10k, the cheapest i ever remember seeing one advertised at was 6 grand ono 😅
It certainly did. The flex was the spoiler , English size rear number plate and headlamp washers = you had a uk model. Had a friend who had one in period and after being hit in the rear ,had the rear spoiler removed which certainly changed its shape at the rear.
I still like the mk3 supra WAY better. The 7m CAN be built to make power like a 2jz, but i must say the 1jz revs higher and the body of tge mk3 is way cooler. I may be bias as an owner tho.
My friend bought a red twin turbo manual 16 years ago, in mint condition for £8,500. He recently insured it for an agreed value of £48,000 which was the figure the insurer came up with!
Believe it or not i bought mine for £1500 in 2005, never had serious issues and is my daily runner
Yep I believe you. My little brother got ribbed by his mates 15 years ago for shelling out £7.5 k on a UK spec Turbo manual. He's got that valued at 50k by Adrian flux.
I love my 1995 Supra Turbo. Had it since new and it currently has 675,000 miles on it. Never had any issues with it in the 30 years I've owned it.
A crime to have this car without a manual.
Rode in one back in the day, was gobsmacked. A highwater mark for Toyota. And another wonderful No.27 video. Full marks.
Auto is much better, stop posting generic pro manual nonsense.
Autos when tuned shift faster and get into boost easier.
@Low760 True, a well sorted auto can outperform a manual. It's just not as engaging. And it can't be jumpstarted by rolling the car iand then letting out the clutch in an emergency. Also, you can't slip it in and out of neutral with a clutch pedal because you don't have one. Numbers favor automatics- driving fun and control favors manuals. If a car has just stupid speed and acceleration a manual may not work. Formula One. Or most hypercars. I have driven and owned both. By both I mean auto and manuals, I have not owned or driven a Formula One or hypercar. Yet.
My 306 hp FK8 ( Type R) is best with a manual. Which is why it only came that way.
@@PaulAndBiscuit I wouldn't say one is "better" than the other really, different strokes for different folks. If you have low testosterone get the auto, if not get the manual 👍
@@PaulAndBiscuit It isnt, especially a sloshbox like this. If you just want to tour lazily and not have to shift you have hundreds of other options.
Love 95 N/A manual. Had her 20 yrs. Is my daily and well over 250k miles. Solid reliability and mild on maintenance costs. Puts a smile on my face everytime I turn the key still.
Got a 93 N/A manual I love her to pieces.
A cheaper option to grab one would be to get Lexus SC300/Toyota Soarer. Same engineering underneath, and no Supra nostaglia tax.
90’s japan seemed so epic, wish i was there. Much love from California ❤
Sadly these cars never sold much in my country (Netherlands).
I only knew of one, a green Supra in a more afluent part of my surroundings.
But I like this version so much more than the BMW Supra.
The '80s and '90s were the best decades for cars imho, at least for Japanese cars.
@@KapiteinKrentebol ze waren in de jaren 90 ook iets van 170 duizend gulden of zo.
@@electrikoptik Zo, da's niet mis.
I've had mine for three years and it's fantastic :) The auto turns it into a cruise, driving a manual, even an N/A is so much more engaged and brings back the 90's fun and feel. Great video, nice to see one on the channel.
I have great fun in my old manual 6 speed getrag, Supra A80 Twin turbo just like this one from 93. What a great car it was. Good too see it again in your reviews Jack
I had the next best thing in 2012, Toyota Celica GT-FOUR, 1995 UK spec. SO fast and sooooooo nice to drive.
I had one years ago best car I've ever owned wish I still had it
I've always liked these and wanted one when they first came out (couldn't afford one then, still can't as a third car in the garage). I still like them in SPITE of fast and furious associating itself with these great cars.
Good to hear, that the auto doesn‘t suck too hard. I can‘t use manuals - so there‘d be a chance for me.
The Mk 4 was heavy, though, despite all the tech. More than 1600 kilograms with a full tank, but no driver. I had a non-turbo manual one following my 100hp Smart Roadster for an afternoon and the driver said in terms of uphill acceleration, he couldn’t claw back what he lost in corners. Power to weight in the same ballpark.
That's the cleanest Toyota Supra MK4 I've ever seen. Respect!
I had the opportunity to buy one around 2007.
This was however an auto.
Thought to myself, I'll wait a bit until I find a manual one.
After that they only became more and more expensive and buying a good one was no longer an option.
Many thanks for the video Jack!
Greetings from the Netherlands
Great car, it wasn't just that the engine was so tuneabl3, it was also because the stock gearbox was able to withstand the extra power too. Incredible car.
I love these cars. Great video, thanks for the upload and also for the owner who offered it for review.
It’s ironic that cars that become popular because they were cheap became so expensive. Every car in Initial D for example like the AE86, R32, FD etc.
I love the supra! My friend has a black one in pristine condition, some very tastefully done mods and a power increase to around 600bhp to the wheels.....it's an old school rocket ship that sadly hardly ever gets driven! Cracking stuff as always Jack buddy 👍
Must be a rocket ship!! Hope youre having a great weekend dude!
whp
@appelsapman434 yup.
Thanks for this video. Who remembers Need for Speed?
Yes! The Need For Speed - first time I heard of this car, played pretty good too.
Seem to remember magazines stating 170mph. Thats crazy back then.
Limited to 155 MPH
@@mreuropa88electronically yes. They could reach 180mph stock without speed limiter.
Its not bad, but similar to other cars of the same time (and today) with the same power figures.
Aged well the supra, so solid and reliable too, great car
I recall seeing one on the road when released, it was in black and looked incredible.
Wow, learned a lot, never knew some of these details, well done. Thanks.
Thanks Jack, I really have a soft spot for the Mk4. Great video and that car is so well kept.
Morning (here) Jack. Well said re the current supra. I was chatting to my daughter who loves retro cars and we both agreed that toyota was really good up until about 2007. She was looking at buying a supra lol. (Oh! Ive spent the week valuing ferraris and in the mix was a P25 only one in Aus) 😊
I'm an assman so I really love the MK4. The back is beautiful day and night.
If your eyes don't work maybe.
The rear is the best part and why I bought mine but the facelift JDM rear lights look so much better than the UKs
A cheaper option to grab one would be to get Lexus SC300/Toyota Soarer. Same engineering underneath, and no Supra nostaglia tax.
It was actually the first Need For Speed that this game was noticed by the younger generation. Gran Turismo came much later.
Looks so much better than the modern BMW/Toyota mash up.
100%
Absolutely
No doubt
At stock i think it just looks like a bar of soap with a wing. Not offensive but also not that interesting.
It’s not that good looking. It’s the performance and lore which make it timeless
These came out when I was of College age and into my young adulthood. The 2nd and 3rd generations of these cars were very popular and moderately priced. But this generation had that currency slip that impacted the other Japanese sports cars so there were very few in number in my area. Prices in the mid $50's was just too much for a young person to afford back then as I paid $110,000 for my first house in 1998. A few years later I was doing some work for a Mitshbishi dealer and it got much worse for the last year of the 3000GT with those prices really exploding causing a serious lot rot.
The engine tuning capability did a lot for popularity
Another factor in buying now is whether they have been modified. To find a stock car with a manual will become more difficult and costly.
There was a YT show in the US a few years ago to test tuner cars in different conditions. There was a Supra with drag tires that developed 800 plus hp. It would spin its the tires and lose lateral stability in 3 gear when the boost kicked in.Then you had to slow it down ...
History was very much revised on these. I remember in the 90s most felt they were heavy and didnt handle all that well.
The mod scene didn't take off until late in their life either
Really? They were being modded in '95 at the latest and the lasting one are still hot.
100% the most over-hyped car in history.
@@SteveC-Shaman, you must be talking about the Porsche 911 993...
The Supra was superior in every way, especially the handling on demanding roads...
The headlights could be better, but it is a really good looking car
I purchased an ‘83 manual Supra brand new..
When the featured car here debuted in ‘93, it stickered for 49k in the US..
The price alienated me and probably many more Supra owners..no bueno
nice work jack . i had a mk3 6speed with a hybrid single turbo , 450 brake :)
2:58 that tyre could use some boost
A "challenge" for you. A 1990's Mazda Eunos Cosmo. Super rare yes, probably none in the UK, despite being RHD's. I would love a review of this car from you honestly 🙏🏻
I have a MK2 with a ford V8. The MK4 is a legend LONG before the silly movies.
Shame about the Halfords bonnet scoop on this one, but ive always loved the look of these.
Bonnet scoop is factory fit for the UK supra’s, it has more power than the JDM ones, I worked at Toyota when we were selling these nearly new.
@SuperStevie1986 interesting. Although it's not to say Toyota themselves didn't buy them from Halfords....
I had a supra auto some years ago. The auto box was dreadful , I’d have kept it longer if it was a manual. It just wanted to shift into 4th asap and you had to brake going down hills in town all the time as it wouldn’t give engine braking.
Thanks great review, a UK one too! I still don't get how it didn't sell well here. Autocar actually described it as a Japanese take on supercar like the NSX.
Blimey a Standard Supra. Rare as Rocking Horse Poo.
You can certainly see how the Modding disease started on these Cars. Just waking that Engine up with a Better Flowing and Sounding Exhaust would have to be a Must on these. Then a Tune to match and then...
Another great Review Jack thanks.
Then you're down the rabbit hole lol
Much like the RS Turbo, I can't remember much good being said about them in period.
Both vastly overrated things.
I have many fond memories of this car, I should never have sold it. 😂❤ Great car.. 👍💯
The JDM cars were never 280bhp, that was just a gentleman's agreement between the major Japanese manufacturers, including Nissan who also quoted 280 on the RB26. The difference with the JDM engines were the use of ceramic turbines in the turbos. These spooled up faster but could delaminate at over 1 bar of boost. The export cars had steel turbines in the turbos. I've run the JZ in a Land Rover discovery with a 5 speed manual and now have one in a 1970 Jag XJ6 S1.
I was at an event in Dublin mid or late 90's , Eddie Irvine arrived in a Supra. Didn't get to speak to him, he was only interested in talking to the women lol
I am confused to why every review of an auto supra mkiv , NEVER use the manual mode, i have owned my supra for 20 years, i change gears manually on it when i go for a spirited drive, it changes gear fast enough, almost 0 turbo lag if i red line it in 1st 2nd and 3rd, and fourth comes in automatically, so please use the manual option guys when you review these AWSOME cars
Totally agree with your statement the auto box driven in manual is fantastic, changes gear fast and gives engine brake. Swapped mine out for a 6spd box but in hindsight in my opinion was a better car with the autobox.
A car I thought I'd have no interest in but this is really engaging.
I might just be an old codger...but I prefer the Mk2 & Mk3 to this. Very nearly bought a used Mk2 back in the mid '90's, but eventually head ruled the heart, and I went for the sensible alternative and bought a Honda Accord, which was a great car, but I would dearly love to be able to get a Mk2 Supra as a classic at some stage. Cheers!
I much prefered the styling of the model previous to this one.
Wonder if my old 1995 Supra Turbo is still out there? Owned it from around 2005-2008. Silver JDM auto; RZ-S trim (big brakes, 17" wheels, limited slip diff and leather interior). N562 CDC???
I bought a new 1983. Great car.
That offside front tyre looks a bit flat to me
Tyre needs air? 1:37
You can get away with 800hp on the stock parts. That is why the Supra became a legend. Beefed up, the sky's the limit. That was in an era when it was unthinkable to modify a Ferrari or Lamborghini. Mclaren F1 had 630hp and sure it had top speed. But you COULD modify a Toyota Supra for the 200mph club. There were no Skylines in the states either, til the R35 in 09. The "not another LS build." That specific turbo prepped block wasn't in the Lexus SC300, the SC300 is not as popular.
I had a paper round in 93/34 and someone I delivered to had a silver one of these. Back then you could have landed a spaceship on the roof and it wouldn't have looked any wilder. I still think they are one of the best looking cars ever.
I have always been a fan of the mark 3 Supra over the mark 4. The mark 4 is still nice in stock form.
Toyota Supra MK4 is such a legendary car! Its influence extends far beyond Gran Turismo and Fast and Furious-it's a masterpiece of engineering with that iconic 2JZ engine and design.
What do you think made it resonate so deeply with car enthusiasts compared to other JDM legends? Awesome videol!
What I never got about the Supra is that the Celica GT-four of the same period actually feels more practical with more interior and boot space, despite having a 4wd system & being basically the same 2 door hatchback coupe shape but the 'smaller' car in the range at the time?
Gt ethos and drivetrain vs more simple base.
The Targa’s have the chassis rigidity of a wet noodle.
So do MX5s but they're competent track toys tbf
I think a more accurate comparison would be with a r33 skyline gtr. Having owned a supra, skyline, gt3000 and a rx7 at the same time, I had a chance to compare them all😊
I almost bought one of these in the early 00s but got an MR2 Turbo instead because it was quite a bit less expensive and I thought it looked cooler. To this day I still debate that choice.
Checked for a price of mk4 3.0 in UK and got exactly this cherry coloured for 25k 😊
I feel that while the Mk4 is mechanically supreme, I much prefer the styling of the Mk2 MA61 and Mk3 A70 generations of the Supra
The mk2 is gorgeous!
You think not feel.
TY 🙏🙏
Its a looker. Was popular before F&F.
Not to anywhere the same degree though. Night and day. So compared to later, it wasnt.
I don’t play the video games and I’ve never watched a fast and furious movie. I think that why I do not understand the crazy values on these now nor do I have much love for it.
Same here. I prefer the Z32 or the FD.
I always liked these but never got around to buying one as they were just out of my price range. My dad had a Mk3 non turbo which was a great car, although sadly it was also an auto.
My brother had a 3000GT … it was a great car.
I was allowed to drive one of those for a day in my neck of the woods in Essex, when I was 19. Trust me when I say I got a heck of a lot of looks going through the various towns.
lovely lovely looking car without the spoiler IMO....
What's your relation with the sheep at 1:47 exactly Jack?
Is that hood scoop factory?
I noted indeed that these can be very expensive in my country (Switzerland)
My dad had an auto twin turbo, 5 sec 0-60 not a slouch... brakes were a bit wooden and hard to disguise the weight! 1600+kg was heavy compared to Porsches of the era
Reading the comments is quite funny, obvious most of the comments are from people who have never driven one or know much about them.
well your comment is funny, cause you also didnt add any value to the conversation. Just pretending to be above others, which if you have to make that point means, you're not.
@maxmeier532 well if you want value out of my comment, I have been around these cars for 20 odd years and know the specs of euro cars, US cars and JDM cars far more than I need too. So when people comment, they didn't have this or have that or this is wrong that is wrong, yes I do find it funny, but hey ho, have a good day.
I agree. There are persons making comments that indicate that their experience with such a car extends no further than a keyboard.
If by "most" you mean "a few", you might be right. Mind providing a few quick examples to illustrate your point to outsiders?
Supra video! ;-)
I'm astonished there are still unmodified versions out there!
The driveby is a bit disappointing featuring mainly tyre noise.
Also Need For Speed 1 - in this exact colour (sorry I am a pedant)
Mother had a UK TT auto new in 96. I thought it was overrated and definitely more GT and could catch you out when 2nd turbo came on 😂
Nissan zx was such a better looking car imo
Agreed. The A80 Supra looks like a sports car that has had a bad allergic reaction.
😂😂😂
It was probably the least good looking of the rx7, 3000gt/gto and 300zx especially from the front but I still bought one.
@@AlfaGTA156 from an Alfa fan hahahahaha and a crap one too.
@@AlfaGTA156spoken like a true clueless Alfa owner.
take out the secondary cat, increase boost to 1.2bar and it instantly goes to 440hp. Peak of Toyota engineering, prices have dipped especially for ones in need of TLC.
Vehicles built in Japan have tremendous build quality, and none more so than Toyota, of course. That said, the other factors of possible import, may be comfort, style and ride quality. Most folk who own a Ferrari or Aston Martin have a sense of the ephemera in their cars, which is not available in mass market cars. . So, people seek exclusivity. Not me, however. It is reliability first, with everything else a cherry on top.
Hmm, near side front could do with a bit of wind in it…..
🤔
I had the same thought! Looks a bit flat @1:37 doesn't it?
Awesome ❤❤❤
still the best Supra!
Whoever signed off on those wheels must have had stocks in an after market wheel supplier, right?
In general, that Supra cried out for some personalising. It's a symbol of untapped possibilities.
Which is not a bad thing, actually. I like making things more personal. 'That's mine, as you obviously know'. Plays havoc with retail price, but I'm not in that game.
That's actually a nice game to play: if you had one, what would you do to it?
Me, I think 350hp would be enough as long as it was revvy. A manual. Light LSD. Pro shocks, that's a must have. Wheels and just a bit lower rideheight. A nice sound, something close to a grA rallycar, that light, chirpy sound. After that, cosmetics. Something to make it look just a bit less smooth, it really was an egg on wheels.
Colour? That's tough. I could go over that for days and still not know.
And I'd loose the rearseats altogether. Just make it a two seater and lose the pretense. I always hated that 2+2 chicanery. It was just lies, but you pay for some fine leather seats anyway.
When they took the Supra racing in Japan back in the days they still got beaten by Nissan on track so Toyota pulled out the brilliant 2JZ to replace it by (I believe ) the 3S-GT four cylinder to save weight and finally beat Nissan.
Not just save weight, but also redistribute weight.
It wasn't really a 3S but it was similar in many respects
@10:52 "rust doesn't effect them too badly..." i respectfully disagree, ive seen ones with holes big enough to stick my fist through. I remember flicking through the pages of my weekly autotrader magazine even before i could drive and seeing a selection of mk4 supras all under 10k, the cheapest i ever remember seeing one advertised at was 6 grand ono 😅
Rust on a 30 year old car, you don't say.
The mk3 supra is my favourite
The UK model never had an adjustable front splitter to my knowledge
Yes it did it was electronic active spoiler that lowered i think at 50mph
It did yeah. manual over ride button on the bottom of the dash centre
It certainly did.
The flex was the spoiler , English size rear number plate and headlamp washers = you had a uk model.
Had a friend who had one in period and after being hit in the rear ,had the rear spoiler removed which certainly changed its shape at the rear.
It certainly did.
That car has a face! Like a renault twingo
thought UK didnt. get the turbo version
We only got the turbo version
KI Video, ist das jetzt die Zukunft??
We both think you really suit the Supra C&J Nz
Thats the quietist Supra ive seen in decades
Just one small exhaust to release all of those horses. Very odd and a style error as well.
I still like the mk3 supra WAY better.
The 7m CAN be built to make power like a 2jz, but i must say the 1jz revs higher and the body of tge mk3 is way cooler.
I may be bias as an owner tho.
I think the real rival of the MK4 Supra was the 300ZX. Both legendary GT cars.
Headlamp washers and heated seats sounds odd when the mk4 was all about weight saving
Heated seats take very little weight.
Great car for the money.