@@slipper8105 I know she's still at the top but it's still insane that she was so powerful and now there's so many new rework classes that are as powerful as her. Making the previous lower tier class looks even worse.
why is that a bad thing they buffed classes to put them at the same tier as her and will do the same with even more next balance patch u do realize how this works right not every single class can get a massive rework all at once @@whyareyoureadingthis1947
Empress has been worse then Emperor for a while now. For the effort of Empress I would really not recommend it to anyone unless you just like sweating for no reason.
Last time I played everyone was saying that Combat Readiness was the only way to play Gunlancer and if you played Lone Knight you were greifing So i load up Lost Ark and start playing my Combat Readiness Gunlancer again and then I see this video and get depression. I feel like finding people that actually know what they are talking about in this game is too hard, so much false information constantly thrown at you
What is the most skill expressive/highest ceiling with good damage once you get there, preferably with high mobility, or if you can give 3-4 suggestions that would be cool
Lol it's crazy how the devs made so many absolutely braindead swiftness classes so strong (FI, Hunger, Pred, Tai, Dark moon). It used to be that spec classes were HIGH risk HIGH reward and you really needed to know boss patterns and timings because any major mistake or miscalculation meant that you'd do zero damage. Just look at classes like master summoner who has low mobility, super hard ani locks, backloaded damage on Akir that you have to cast 4-6 times per minute to be competitive, and half of the skills don't even have paralysis immunity. For what? For slightly above average damage even if you are good at the class, which is very difficult to master. I have FI WD too and I can literally watch Netflix when I play this class, and now you tell me that I can put up crazy numbers while being semi conscious and smashing my buttons with disabled identity meter? That makes so much sense (lol no it does not). So, now it seems like we are going in the direction where you can just play high mobility, riskless, and easy classes to be able to out-damage 90% of the classes in the game, even those that are much harder to play. The devs are indeed clueless and class balance, besides some nice changes like the ones for BE artillerist, is probably the worst we have had in 2 years think. No wonder so many people are malding right now and asking for class change tickets because currently it makes zero sense to play certain classes, like there is nothing redeeming about them compared to those at the top or near the top. Nothing but disappointment. The only good thing about the most recent patch is that swiftness accessories will start selling again lmao.
every class is mechanically easy and it get easier when you are a expert at the raid. what risk? when there is something called your "spacebar" and "get up action". you waste or spacebar /get up like a bozo then you get punished. its not high risk its just ur a rip bozo. if you know a boss has a one hit mechanic like brels yellow attack a competent player wont waste their spacebar to chase the boss. the risk comes in if you are a bozo playing a slow class with long spacebar CD that waste spacebar for nothing and wont have it up to actually save you.
The thing is that some classes are objectively much harder to play than the others. If stress free classes with barely any cooldowns and a ton of mobility and a much lower cost of a mistake are able to output similar or higher numbers as classes that have none of the things I just mentioned above, what's a reason to play the other classes? There is none, literally, unless you hate yourself and want an unrewarding challenge that nobody asked for. Sure you can master a class to a point where everything becomes a muscle memory so they become "mechanically easy" as you phrased it but it still does not change my point, which is that there must be some incentive to play more difficult/involved classes compared to comfy and risk-free classes. I don't really understand how it does not make sense to you. If you think every class is on even playground just because everyone has a spacebar and they should just "git gud" then you are just an ignorant person. Please rewatch what Legalia says about MS again and try to rethink your stance again - there are classes in this game that are far too easy to have the damage they have. If you disagree still, I guess we just have a different view on high the concept of risk vs reward should work in video games. Have a good night, sir.
@@fgmxd4957the hardest class I play are full swift xD (arcana, soulfist), and for exemple with my full moon SE I just feel like I play a boomer class with full qol, it's why I switch night edge crit/swift who is harder to play finally, but I agree with you for other swift class, I play fi wd too I love her so much (I don't know why) but soo easy to play and safe.
It's actually a shame how accurate MS was explained by Legalia. Slow af, Akkir wind up is light years to channel, no mobility, CD are relatively high. Its a joke
I do feel like GL synergy isn't what it used to be with other classes getting strong double syns. Red is also pretty hard to play in newer raids due to bosses being a lot more mobile and turning/dashing a lot.
definitely not that great during prog but still considered bis synergy for entropy party setup, especially with how strong the S tier entropys are I think it still had value
Yeah, still good value in entropy groups. Honestly, their damage just got buffed by like another 10% recently too, so they're starting to approach okay DPS if the GL has hands and uses CGL instead of fire bullet. Surprisingly, blue damage is actually pretty comparable to red now on a lot of raids if they go spec/crit Hallucination + KBW build with DMG on crit elixir, but it involves dropping nella's or DUF for shield shock as extra damage + easy adrenaline upkeep. Red doesn't have to sacrifice any utility to do the same damage, so it's still better. If they added counter to shield shock or shield bash, then maybe blue would be more competitive. Hallu build parses about the same as Nightmare in Trixion, but bible shows actual raid damage is noticeably higher 'cause the damage is front loaded with big crits + supp buffs, instead of being back loaded with boundless. Also benefits a lot more from atro with KBW and not needing stabilized status. @@Legaliaaa
same with areo a dps class meant to be taken for there sinergys has worse team singerys as any of the current top classes soulfist got better dmg reduction(and a cleanse or even better dmg reduction) and deahtblade better atacks speed with better uptime.. what a joke@@KyokujiFGC
@@KyokujiFGC Good points, that's why I prefer Blue for many buses like 4 man Akkan, 2 man Brel etc. Basicaly long raids where DPS > Burst And of course we drop Nella, very usefull on prog or hell content but once mates get use to raids it is a waste
a note about why legacy feels stronger than demonic, since you seemed like you were not sure why... The overall uptime is just better on legacy because you can transform in 2 skills, and even if you miss a skill, you can still do it in 3 of your other skills. Demonic, you're still at a 4 skill transform. If you miss even one of them, you're delayed by so much compared to legacy. They 'compensate' for it by demonic being able to stay transformed longer, but it's way more punishing if you screw up your skills for transforming when you're out of transform. Legacy is very forgiving even when you whiff a skill outside of transform. Legacy is still a bit clunky though. I think if they increased the damage of your R skill by 20% and removed the front attack modifier for it, it would be way stronger. But as it stands currently, if you don't land your R on the front, you lose 20% damage on your strongest skill... And i don't think the shields make that much of a difference, you still have to dodge patterns, losing your shields means you'll be knocked out of transform, and you don't get 40% of your meter back, delaying your next transform. Demonic doesn't have this issue, they can transform, gain massive health pools, and heal themselves when they do.
I don't think legacy is clunky. But it has gotten stale. I think it's time for a rework on tranformation classes. Probably add a new transformation skill that requires its own gem. Legacy is strong because it can literally dodge and reposition all while doing their rotation so they never stop dpsing. Shadowhunter on the other hand can't do that.
I agree with everything I said about shock scrapper, she is a good class, but to perform well, she needs a crit and a atack speed synergy, I think If they just make all shock skills 20% faster its already enough to make her feels good to play, this make her Z fill up faster just put super armor on Z and change some tripods of supernova and deathrattle, like they removed the single target effect now does not need a single target, and the 3 tripod finishing blow now do 50% damage so we have a tripod that deals 60% more dmg and one deals 50% more damage what is t he fucking poit off having these tripod just put 50% more damage and 20% more damanage when you are on fighting spirit mode! this is for death ratlle btw, for supernova just change the piercing strike no more 40% defense ignore, just add the fighting spirit enhancement 60% +20% more damange on fighting spirit mode, this is enough to make shock scrapper S tier, f course crit on Z would be nice but they wont put this
I personally play an overgeared (100q 25 akkan weapon, 1635) 9/7 stone punsiher slayer with a pocket bard and the damage is on another dimension. We have a static of 8 (5 of them full lvl 10 and 2 of them with some lvl 9 gems) and even with that, the punisher damage goes to another cosmical level. Theres also a predator slayer with akkan weapon 25 (98q and 1625) in the other party with a bard and can only surpass my punisher when i have a really bad try and miss a lot of abilities due to boss movement and also the awakening. Otherwise not.
i can only speak for EUC, non juicer pugging ... both punisher and mayhem are criminally underrated in those tierlist when it comes to my experience. i do play a totally different game than streamers anyway though, so thats fine
1.0 cycle punisher (the only build that matters because 1.5 is dogshit) should probably be a tier above despite it's shit playstyle. REBlade should be dropped a tier for the same reason EO and RS are (difficult to perform at the ceiling).
@@300y1 i was using RS for alt, but still that thing was so easy to master, you will feel it's so hard to play at first but after you know how much does the skill animation takes to land and what combo you can use in certain situation it feels just like predator slayer, you can just cancel your hype then wait 11s for it to be ready again. i really feel RS was non entropy predator slayer with less destruction and stagger, and more burst potential than predator with spirit bomb landed.
I downloaded this game, looked at this tier list and created an SE, used powerpass and enter in deskaluda. I dealt 50% of the total damage. It was my first time playing this game. I just hit the skills randomly and was mvp. BALANCED
I genuinely do not understand why people get mad at tier lists. This is Lost Ark, a fucking korean MMO where the lowest dps to the highest dps have a variation between 10-30% difference which is huge. Of course classes are going to be better than others.
i think its because when creators call out classes people enjoy to play this can push raid leaders into gatekeeping certain specs even though anything can clear all content in the game. The game is not that difficult in non hell scenario.
Just the right tier list for our new powerpass. Yay! But I guess I have to make Souleater, because who knows when we will get the latest class rework...
may you explain more about the two engravings of souleater? is dark moon better than full moon only when you considered about hell content or it just simply better in every raid?
i don't get why people complain for the removal of the execution dmg on gunslinger, i always hated it. it is more a passive suit for assassins in moba games than lost ark. why i need to wait half the fight to deal more damage? the concept is so trash it only make harder to get mvp if the raid end 2 fast. so i'm ok with that move. but they just need to buff this class somewhere in the kit. why we get only micro changes or Qol ? meanwhile other class or new class get powercreep by like 10%+ + every balance patch? wtf.. they like so stingy when they try to buff this class
Yoo does FI WD deal more dmg than ESO or it's just easier engr than the other one? Both were commented good but what about the main difference? Thanks, peace
how big is the difference between spec and swift reaper/soul eater? I prefer lunar and FM so seeing hunger and dark moon a whole tier above makes me wonder if the spec variants can match those two
@@Legaliaaa dam unfortunate, hope future encounter designs/balance can make it equal for both spec and swift. I dislike how one is always better in a specific patch
Main issue is he's never seen a good one. It gets worse the more you overgear content due to being a high uptime build, but it should still average around B-tier.
Feelsbadman. I like the concept of transformation classes, but they really lack variation in gameplay. I wish they were remade to be built/played similar to other burst dps classes. I mean, I appreciate that they are cheap to build and recognize that they should come with some kind of drawback. But why could we not just make them harder and more interesting to play? At this point I have no idea how they would even need to be reworked, and it would probably not make sense to begin with. It just sucks that transformation builds are relegated to be easy-to-play options for new players. Cool video btw.
just started playing lost ark literally today, anyone got any reccomendations ? i would say i will be f2p for the time being (we never know) i prolly prefer more pve content whats a good dps class and support class, or debuffer if that exists
this game isn't about pvp, no one plays it all supports have pros or cons you should pick what you prefer but the easiest to play would be paladin as for easy dps, you'll be spending a lot of time on your class so it's best to play what you want
@@krasitto8757 not necessary overgear but, red gunlancer is not a "burst" class. It just does the same damage in a shorter amount of time but has longer cooldowns, which makes it strictly better since fights tend to give you "good pattern --> bad pattern as an example.
@@Legaliaaa I don't think you are up to date with the damage Hallu+KBW Blue GL can do compared to Red. It's also a quick frontloaded burst build, and only does like 5 to 10% less damage than Red ON TRIXION, which means it will almost never do less than red on an actual raid. The only real bad downside is that you can't really afford to go Nella.
In your previous tier list you rated peacemaker as B tier and tofu rated it as A tier, but in this current list you rated it as a C tier. Is this just purely from powercreep because a bunch of other classes got her synergy or did the class actually get worse?
complete elistjerk complaing that people pressing bottons are bad because they can do it. meanwhile most class are good now, and people can play more class that before and dont be complete useless to raid... balances seems fine to me.
The balance is dogshit. It power crept over half of the classes, and stupidly buffed already strong classes to the point that 2/3 of the other classes cannot catch up with it. I am talking about Surge DB. 2/3 of the classes deal the same damage now as a Surge DB that is 20 levels below them. Or a non-Elixir Surge DB. They combined the 2 playstyles in this game into a single class, consistent with burst DPS.
Summoner is just terrible. I wasted one of my power passes on it. I wish the power pass operated by slot so you can reroll if you made a mistake. Yes, once you have played for a number of months it isn't a problem getting them. Can Korean developers not create a proper pet class? Diablo does it with Necro's minions. Make the pets permanent at least. It's just an awful design. It's the worst class design by far.
The design is made even worse, because CO Summoner's highest damage dealing skills are not the pets... but Ancient Spears and Earth Collapse, which are not even buffed by the class engraving. Why play this engraving, when the buffs it gives to the pets are nowhere near enough to compete with the 2 highest damage skills? Maririn, Pauru, Elcid, Shurdi and Kelsion taken together do less damage than Ancient Spears/Earth Collapse in raids. There is no other class in the game who's class engraving doesn't give an edge to your particular playstyle.
making a tierlist based on mobility and survivability for latest content seems innacurate and honestly just skill issue, i do akkan without support (bus) and i dont even use all pots, not B tier for sure.
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4:25 Pinnacle
7:04 Control
8:54 Full Moon/Dark Moon
13:09 Pistoleer
13:40 AT Scouter
14:02 Legacy Scouter
15:30 Eso Striker
16:00 Deathblow
17:04 Emperor
17:27 Empress
18:12 Lone Knight
19:55 Combat Readiness
20:20 Tai Scrapper
21:20 Shock Scrapper
23:20 Loyal Companion
23:55 Death Strike
26:45 Time to Hunt
27:15 Peacemaker
30:00 Aeromancers
Leglia makes another tier list and triggers half the player base. I love it.
I wish I had popcorn atm, your tierlist are always god tier content
legalia never fails to disappoint 🔥🔥🔥
if legalia's pm gs lost to a fpe arti why are they in the same tier? LOL
true om
It's crazy how much power creep they added each patch. Predator was on top of the food chain only to be turn into prey to all those Assassin buff.
she is still amongst the top classes though
the fuck are you talking about. its not like they fell off the face of the earth LMFAOOO
u do realize that she is still at the top
@@slipper8105 I know she's still at the top but it's still insane that she was so powerful and now there's so many new rework classes that are as powerful as her. Making the previous lower tier class looks even worse.
why is that a bad thing they buffed classes to put them at the same tier as her and will do the same with even more next balance patch u do realize how this works right not every single class can get a massive rework all at once @@whyareyoureadingthis1947
as a surge blade main, i can't wait for the patch to come
Empress has been worse then Emperor for a while now. For the effort of Empress I would really not recommend it to anyone unless you just like sweating for no reason.
Last time I played everyone was saying that Combat Readiness was the only way to play Gunlancer and if you played Lone Knight you were greifing
So i load up Lost Ark and start playing my Combat Readiness Gunlancer again and then I see this video and get depression.
I feel like finding people that actually know what they are talking about in this game is too hard, so much false information constantly thrown at you
The game was not out Firepower was already in D-Tier.
(firepower enjoyer here)
What is the most skill expressive/highest ceiling with good damage once you get there, preferably with high mobility, or if you can give 3-4 suggestions that would be cool
Lol it's crazy how the devs made so many absolutely braindead swiftness classes so strong (FI, Hunger, Pred, Tai, Dark moon). It used to be that spec classes were HIGH risk HIGH reward and you really needed to know boss patterns and timings because any major mistake or miscalculation meant that you'd do zero damage. Just look at classes like master summoner who has low mobility, super hard ani locks, backloaded damage on Akir that you have to cast 4-6 times per minute to be competitive, and half of the skills don't even have paralysis immunity. For what? For slightly above average damage even if you are good at the class, which is very difficult to master. I have FI WD too and I can literally watch Netflix when I play this class, and now you tell me that I can put up crazy numbers while being semi conscious and smashing my buttons with disabled identity meter? That makes so much sense (lol no it does not).
So, now it seems like we are going in the direction where you can just play high mobility, riskless, and easy classes to be able to out-damage 90% of the classes in the game, even those that are much harder to play. The devs are indeed clueless and class balance, besides some nice changes like the ones for BE artillerist, is probably the worst we have had in 2 years think. No wonder so many people are malding right now and asking for class change tickets because currently it makes zero sense to play certain classes, like there is nothing redeeming about them compared to those at the top or near the top. Nothing but disappointment. The only good thing about the most recent patch is that swiftness accessories will start selling again lmao.
Master Summoner vs Swiftness Hunger Reaper 💀
every class is mechanically easy and it get easier when you are a expert at the raid. what risk? when there is something called your "spacebar" and "get up action". you waste or spacebar /get up like a bozo then you get punished. its not high risk its just ur a rip bozo.
if you know a boss has a one hit mechanic like brels yellow attack a competent player wont waste their spacebar to chase the boss. the risk comes in if you are a bozo playing a slow class with long spacebar CD that waste spacebar for nothing and wont have it up to actually save you.
The thing is that some classes are objectively much harder to play than the others. If stress free classes with barely any cooldowns and a ton of mobility and a much lower cost of a mistake are able to output similar or higher numbers as classes that have none of the things I just mentioned above, what's a reason to play the other classes? There is none, literally, unless you hate yourself and want an unrewarding challenge that nobody asked for. Sure you can master a class to a point where everything becomes a muscle memory so they become "mechanically easy" as you phrased it but it still does not change my point, which is that there must be some incentive to play more difficult/involved classes compared to comfy and risk-free classes. I don't really understand how it does not make sense to you. If you think every class is on even playground just because everyone has a spacebar and they should just "git gud" then you are just an ignorant person. Please rewatch what Legalia says about MS again and try to rethink your stance again - there are classes in this game that are far too easy to have the damage they have. If you disagree still, I guess we just have a different view on high the concept of risk vs reward should work in video games. Have a good night, sir.
@@fgmxd4957the hardest class I play are full swift xD (arcana, soulfist), and for exemple with my full moon SE I just feel like I play a boomer class with full qol, it's why I switch night edge crit/swift who is harder to play finally, but I agree with you for other swift class, I play fi wd too I love her so much (I don't know why) but soo easy to play and safe.
As a 1622 hunger reaper i'm pumped to watch this. I wont be insulted by Legalia for the first time maybe...
if you eat dirt, you will XD
AHHAHAHAH
this tier list is single handedly going to revive lost ark in the west
It's actually a shame how accurate MS was explained by Legalia. Slow af, Akkir wind up is light years to channel, no mobility, CD are relatively high. Its a joke
I do feel like GL synergy isn't what it used to be with other classes getting strong double syns. Red is also pretty hard to play in newer raids due to bosses being a lot more mobile and turning/dashing a lot.
definitely not that great during prog but still considered bis synergy for entropy party setup, especially with how strong the S tier entropys are I think it still had value
Yeah, still good value in entropy groups. Honestly, their damage just got buffed by like another 10% recently too, so they're starting to approach okay DPS if the GL has hands and uses CGL instead of fire bullet.
Surprisingly, blue damage is actually pretty comparable to red now on a lot of raids if they go spec/crit Hallucination + KBW build with DMG on crit elixir, but it involves dropping nella's or DUF for shield shock as extra damage + easy adrenaline upkeep. Red doesn't have to sacrifice any utility to do the same damage, so it's still better. If they added counter to shield shock or shield bash, then maybe blue would be more competitive.
Hallu build parses about the same as Nightmare in Trixion, but bible shows actual raid damage is noticeably higher 'cause the damage is front loaded with big crits + supp buffs, instead of being back loaded with boundless. Also benefits a lot more from atro with KBW and not needing stabilized status.
@@Legaliaaa
same with areo a dps class meant to be taken for there sinergys has worse team singerys as any of the current top classes soulfist got better dmg reduction(and a cleanse or even better dmg reduction) and deahtblade better atacks speed with better uptime.. what a joke@@KyokujiFGC
@@KyokujiFGC Good points, that's why I prefer Blue for many buses like 4 man Akkan, 2 man Brel etc. Basicaly long raids where DPS > Burst
And of course we drop Nella, very usefull on prog or hell content but once mates get use to raids it is a waste
a note about why legacy feels stronger than demonic, since you seemed like you were not sure why...
The overall uptime is just better on legacy because you can transform in 2 skills, and even if you miss a skill, you can still do it in 3 of your other skills. Demonic, you're still at a 4 skill transform. If you miss even one of them, you're delayed by so much compared to legacy. They 'compensate' for it by demonic being able to stay transformed longer, but it's way more punishing if you screw up your skills for transforming when you're out of transform. Legacy is very forgiving even when you whiff a skill outside of transform.
Legacy is still a bit clunky though. I think if they increased the damage of your R skill by 20% and removed the front attack modifier for it, it would be way stronger. But as it stands currently, if you don't land your R on the front, you lose 20% damage on your strongest skill...
And i don't think the shields make that much of a difference, you still have to dodge patterns, losing your shields means you'll be knocked out of transform, and you don't get 40% of your meter back, delaying your next transform. Demonic doesn't have this issue, they can transform, gain massive health pools, and heal themselves when they do.
I don't think legacy is clunky. But it has gotten stale. I think it's time for a rework on tranformation classes. Probably add a new transformation skill that requires its own gem.
Legacy is strong because it can literally dodge and reposition all while doing their rotation so they never stop dpsing. Shadowhunter on the other hand can't do that.
AINTNOWAY legacy in B tier and not D on a Lgalia tierlist
I agree with everything I said about shock scrapper, she is a good class, but to perform well, she needs a crit and a atack speed synergy, I think If they just make all shock skills 20% faster its already enough to make her feels good to play, this make her Z fill up faster just put super armor on Z and change some tripods of supernova and deathrattle, like they removed the single target effect now does not need a single target, and the 3 tripod finishing blow now do 50% damage so we have a tripod that deals 60% more dmg and one deals 50% more damage what is t he fucking poit off having these tripod just put 50% more damage and 20% more damanage when you are on fighting spirit mode! this is for death ratlle btw, for supernova just change the piercing strike no more 40% defense ignore, just add the fighting spirit enhancement 60% +20% more damange on fighting spirit mode, this is enough to make shock scrapper S tier, f course crit on Z would be nice but they wont put this
I personally play an overgeared (100q 25 akkan weapon, 1635) 9/7 stone punsiher slayer with a pocket bard and the damage is on another dimension. We have a static of 8 (5 of them full lvl 10 and 2 of them with some lvl 9 gems) and even with that, the punisher damage goes to another cosmical level. Theres also a predator slayer with akkan weapon 25 (98q and 1625) in the other party with a bard and can only surpass my punisher when i have a really bad try and miss a lot of abilities due to boss movement and also the awakening. Otherwise not.
i can only speak for EUC, non juicer pugging ...
both punisher and mayhem are criminally underrated in those tierlist when it comes to my experience.
i do play a totally different game than streamers anyway though, so thats fine
Shut up dude, punisher is weak AF it def needs a buff it can't compete with predator at all. 🤫
I actually think this tier list is fairly accurate.
1.0 cycle punisher (the only build that matters because 1.5 is dogshit) should probably be a tier above despite it's shit playstyle. REBlade should be dropped a tier for the same reason EO and RS are (difficult to perform at the ceiling).
@@300y1 baseg
Whats 1.0 cycle slayer? :0
@@300y1 i was using RS for alt, but still that thing was so easy to master, you will feel it's so hard to play at first but after you know how much does the skill animation takes to land and what combo you can use in certain situation it feels just like predator slayer, you can just cancel your hype then wait 11s for it to be ready again.
i really feel RS was non entropy predator slayer with less destruction and stagger, and more burst potential than predator with spirit bomb landed.
@@300y1 hell nah im not gonna farm the 2nd wealth rune and the high spec requirements, nty
"THIS CLASS IS DOG SHIT...OMG....SO TRASH....OMG......WHAT KIND OF DOG SHIT....but it's not that bad.
- Legalia 2023
I downloaded this game, looked at this tier list and created an SE, used powerpass and enter in deskaluda. I dealt 50% of the total damage. It was my first time playing this game. I just hit the skills randomly and was mvp. BALANCED
surely you did lil bro
Pooooog. I heckin love Wgalia tier lists
dude has been watching alot of k3soju and it shows
That's 2 tier lists now I see crit/swift souleater higher than spec.
I genuinely do not understand why people get mad at tier lists. This is Lost Ark, a fucking korean MMO where the lowest dps to the highest dps have a variation between 10-30% difference which is huge. Of course classes are going to be better than others.
i think its because when creators call out classes people enjoy to play this can push raid leaders into gatekeeping certain specs even though anything can clear all content in the game. The game is not that difficult in non hell scenario.
Just the right tier list for our new powerpass. Yay! But I guess I have to make Souleater, because who knows when we will get the latest class rework...
voldike 99%
@@Legaliaaa we'll see... But what class do I make :o or do I wait?
@@clouds5 You should make it ASAP since dailies are huge part of character progression. I would recommend souleater
may you explain more about the two engravings of souleater? is dark moon better than full moon only when you considered about hell content or it just simply better in every raid?
This is not a hell tier list.
i don't get why people complain for the removal of the execution dmg on gunslinger, i always hated it. it is more a passive suit for assassins in moba games than lost ark.
why i need to wait half the fight to deal more damage? the concept is so trash it only make harder to get mvp if the raid end 2 fast. so i'm ok with that move.
but they just need to buff this class somewhere in the kit.
why we get only micro changes or Qol ? meanwhile other class or new class get powercreep by like 10%+ + every balance patch? wtf..
they like so stingy when they try to buff this class
Just switched from Deathblow to Esoteric, cause ppl said its basically the same strength as Deathblow, which means it's better. R.I.P.
Esoteric will be much stronger until you get the reworked deathblow anyways, its terrible in its current state on live servers for NA/EU
@@LegaliaaaHi Legalia, whats your opinion on 500/500/1000 eso builds?
@@pauliusnanukas7183 worse than spec
did I miss it or did you not put full bloom in a tier?
Yoo does FI WD deal more dmg than ESO or it's just easier engr than the other one?
Both were commented good but what about the main difference?
Thanks, peace
eso is definitely stronger, and its not hard to play either
@@Legaliaaa appreciate that, stay safe and good luck
can you do a tierlist for difficulty to damage output?
"Nobody is balancing the game". If only we were lucky enough for nobody to be around in Smilegate to mess the game balance further.
also do you think empress as an engraving is outdated and bad? it has mp recovery!
whe talkig about NE soul, is talking about the full crit or the 60/40?
full crit is the strongest build
how big is the difference between spec and swift reaper/soul eater? I prefer lunar and FM so seeing hunger and dark moon a whole tier above makes me wonder if the spec variants can match those two
can match if you play pocket 3 bar bard which is pointless since it gimps other 2 dps in party
@@Legaliaaa dam unfortunate, hope future encounter designs/balance can make it equal for both spec and swift. I dislike how one is always better in a specific patch
Control not that bad right? i use the build for chaos and stuff
Main issue is he's never seen a good one.
It gets worse the more you overgear content due to being a high uptime build, but it should still average around B-tier.
Firepower is the class that has consistently been rated low and it continues to MVP. Love it, keep the the FUD strong for FPE.
mvp against who? cuz ive never seen one mvp in my lobbies
Copium
Man I love how good your English is
Btw can you recommend me a good support class?I play on NA-EAST
bruh i'm 100% american born and raised lol
I just moved to Korea recently
i recommend paladin
Ah lol, nice, hahah, ty by the way for the recommendation @@Legaliaaa
Feelsbadman. I like the concept of transformation classes, but they really lack variation in gameplay. I wish they were remade to be built/played similar to other burst dps classes.
I mean, I appreciate that they are cheap to build and recognize that they should come with some kind of drawback. But why could we not just make them harder and more interesting to play?
At this point I have no idea how they would even need to be reworked, and it would probably not make sense to begin with. It just sucks that transformation builds are relegated to be easy-to-play options for new players.
Cool video btw.
just started playing lost ark literally today, anyone got any reccomendations ? i would say i will be f2p for the time being (we never know)
i prolly prefer more pve content
whats a good dps class and support class, or debuffer if that exists
this game isn't about pvp, no one plays it
all supports have pros or cons you should pick what you prefer but the easiest to play would be paladin
as for easy dps, you'll be spending a lot of time on your class so it's best to play what you want
Only thing that matters is of You enjoy your class. And that its Gerard enough for ppl to want it in their group for that content
the usual. Make new chars op so it sells skins and people by gold to hone them. nothing new.
Main Zerk too dumb to ever main swap
empress and gunslinger getting turbo power crept is so smoge
Yippity yay 🎉
why the gap is so big between the gunlancers do u care to explain ?
dps difference in a raid, red gets its damage off in quick bursts which is always the favored kind of dps when it comes to any gate with phases/DR
@@Legaliaaa so its just in a 8 man over geared content where the boss phases after 1-2 rotations ? otherwise u are saying that consistent dps is bad
@@krasitto8757 not necessary overgear but, red gunlancer is not a "burst" class. It just does the same damage in a shorter amount of time but has longer cooldowns, which makes it strictly better since fights tend to give you "good pattern --> bad pattern as an example.
@@Legaliaaa I don't think you are up to date with the damage Hallu+KBW Blue GL can do compared to Red. It's also a quick frontloaded burst build, and only does like 5 to 10% less damage than Red ON TRIXION, which means it will almost never do less than red on an actual raid.
The only real bad downside is that you can't really afford to go Nella.
I've heard of the build and if you need to take off Nella then there's kinda no point taking gunlancer@@kvk9002
In your previous tier list you rated peacemaker as B tier and tofu rated it as A tier, but in this current list you rated it as a C tier. Is this just purely from powercreep because a bunch of other classes got her synergy or did the class actually get worse?
I suggest you watch the whole video when you have time, so you'll understand my placement since it's a long explanation 😁
You are to the lost ark community what Prometheus was to mankind. Thank you for the info and insights senpai! 😩👌🔥
Am I blind I cant find paladin?
no point ranking supports since they're mandatory
were u a part of the osu community legalia
nope, only tried the game once
control is not bad at all
Main Zerk too dumb to ever main swap.
yea last month I was trolling in hell kakul using my nightmare deadeye out damage gunslinger. And then he instantly give up his gs lol.
yipity yay :P
Strange mouth sounds tho
chill with the yap lil bro
lol lost nothing but 20% crit tripods on the damage skills? XD great win for reaper anyway but it def is a complete rework
first lil bro❤
where is artist?
It’s a support they’re all s tier who cares
@@iflaxo5875 I care, asshole
how about less yapping lilbro, anyway good content nonetheless
Based af.
Time to see people cry
complete elistjerk complaing that people pressing bottons are bad because they can do it. meanwhile most class are good now, and people can play more class that before and dont be complete useless to raid... balances seems fine to me.
moron
Ur a dum dum
The balance is dogshit. It power crept over half of the classes, and stupidly buffed already strong classes to the point that 2/3 of the other classes cannot catch up with it. I am talking about Surge DB. 2/3 of the classes deal the same damage now as a Surge DB that is 20 levels below them. Or a non-Elixir Surge DB. They combined the 2 playstyles in this game into a single class, consistent with burst DPS.
Summoner is just terrible. I wasted one of my power passes on it. I wish the power pass operated by slot so you can reroll if you made a mistake. Yes, once you have played for a number of months it isn't a problem getting them.
Can Korean developers not create a proper pet class? Diablo does it with Necro's minions. Make the pets permanent at least. It's just an awful design. It's the worst class design by far.
The design is made even worse, because CO Summoner's highest damage dealing skills are not the pets... but Ancient Spears and Earth Collapse, which are not even buffed by the class engraving. Why play this engraving, when the buffs it gives to the pets are nowhere near enough to compete with the 2 highest damage skills? Maririn, Pauru, Elcid, Shurdi and Kelsion taken together do less damage than Ancient Spears/Earth Collapse in raids. There is no other class in the game who's class engraving doesn't give an edge to your particular playstyle.
Drama waiting room
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Don’t eat my dog ching ching
lol my main is c/d 😂😂
om my
yapgod
Why do Lost Ark creators have the absolute laziest TH-cam content ever. Zero editing, no chapters, nothing.
check my latest content, this is before i had an editor
your mouth noises (not your voice) make this video hard to watch . mic might be too sensitive or your mouth might be too wet
happens more on this particular stream recording than normally because I am talking closer than normal, my apologies
making a tierlist based on mobility and survivability for latest content seems innacurate and honestly just skill issue, i do akkan without support (bus) and i dont even use all pots, not B tier for sure.
where did I do that?
lool
No shot Punisher is below BT 😂
bt got a bpatch it's quite strong now and not entropy either
That other Asian guy with the glasses not Zeals the other guy who plays machinist and I guess he's Taiwanese. He triggered some way more.
Kanima
@@olsenc84 yes thank you I just saw him upload a video about ATK malding about supports
he hates heavy armor on bard!