Wow! This is awesome Trev. She looks like she handles amazingly. Great camera work by the 1st mate there too. I just bumped into your channel yesterday and watched Willows transformation. Great job. Looking forward to more action.
Very apropos of my current build project: a 16-foot hard-chine micro cruiser I designed myself. I pondered long over keel arrangement and have decided to go with long, shallow, outward canted bilge keels just like yours. It is a great comfort to see them work so well. My sail will start off made from a tarp, as I'm experimenting with a junk (Chinese lug) sail. That's a nice old boat you have there. Looks like great fun. I'll be putting mine in the water at Goolwa, South Australia. Cheers.
Hi Robert. I think it's a combination of the 6 inch keels and the central keel being about 8 inches at the stern that makes it all work. Probably the safest way to assure it will sail well is to design the rig after you put the boat in the water. That way you can push your boat sideways in the water and work out exactly where the center of lateral resistance is and then design your sail so the center of effort is forward of that. I didn't do it that way. I figured it on paper and used a bunch of assumptions and comparisons to other designs, resulting in a lot of sleepless nights and worries till it was launched haha.. Anyway best of luck with yours and rest assured they do work well. Thanks for your comment!
@@TrevC-co6xk Thanks for the reply, Trevor. That's good advice. I've been re-consulting my library of boat designing books, including the "Bible" of junk rigs, and done all my calculations - knowing that the dynamic reality can be different to the static theory. My mast position fore-aft will be fixed as it will step in a tabernacle (for going under bridges, etc.). With any lug rig, one has some small adjustment fore-and-aft, but I've also designed in a step on the stern transom for a small mizzen in case of excessive lee helm. In addition, by making a tarp sail (cheap) I can test it first without risking a bunch of money, and make a better quality sail based on the trails with the tarp. As for keels, I will build them long enough to trim off either end to adjust the CLR if necessary, and there will be a skeg aft equal in draft to the keels, also to give stable drying out. Much fun ahead! All the best.
@TrevC-co6xk it's been a long time since I want to build a sailboat, but kinda stuck in choosing what design, too much to choose only one, feel like I have to build every single design... aarrggh, I hate my mind
I know it's a huge dilemma! I've owned three different types of boats ( 24ft keel, 18ft trailer sailer and this one). They're all so different, but they take you to the same good place.
Very impressive performance! If you can get the gps data it's possible to wrangle it into a spreadsheet and produce a polar chart, interesting for viewing speed vs angel to the wind. It looks to me like you could do with either a vang, or a traveller on the back to keep the leech tight using mainsheet tension, to get a little more out of her still. Love the standing lug!
Thanks Thomas, yes it would be intriguing and useful to know that kind of detail. I would need something better than the app that I was using as it only measures speed in whole units ( as does my handheld Garmin GPS). I can easily attach a boom vang and you are right. I should try that.
Have you tried swamping her to test your flotation? How about righting her after a capsize? I'm sure you're testing all of this. Looking very good mate!
That's definitely something I want to try at some stage, especially before I venture out and do some of the little coastal hops that I'm planning in the back of my mind. I know the perfect place to give it a go. Will be interesting to see if i can get enough leverage without a centreboard. I suppose I would need to attach a weight to the transom to simulate having my outboard there as well. All in good time. I will try some river cruising and take things steady till then. :) Thanks again ! !
Wire on boat is probably to stop otters and other sea life from coming aboard. Lovely job on your boat I sail a Gartsode 130 12' clinker dinghy with a standing lug. For fun I added a removable sprit and often fly a jib. Are you playing the guitar? Sounds Nick Drake-esque
Haha yeah that's right, my son thought it looked like the top of a prison wall but it's security against seals probably. Yep, that's me having a dabble on the guitar. I like your jib idea.
Wow! This is awesome Trev. She looks like she handles amazingly. Great camera work by the 1st mate there too.
I just bumped into your channel yesterday and watched Willows transformation. Great job. Looking forward to more action.
Thankyou..very much! 😊 and yes he did a great job with that thing.
Very apropos of my current build project: a 16-foot hard-chine micro cruiser I designed myself. I pondered long over keel arrangement and have decided to go with long, shallow, outward canted bilge keels just like yours. It is a great comfort to see them work so well. My sail will start off made from a tarp, as I'm experimenting with a junk (Chinese lug) sail. That's a nice old boat you have there. Looks like great fun. I'll be putting mine in the water at Goolwa, South Australia. Cheers.
Hi Robert. I think it's a combination of the 6 inch keels and the central keel being about 8 inches at the stern that makes it all work. Probably the safest way to assure it will sail well is to design the rig after you put the boat in the water. That way you can push your boat sideways in the water and work out exactly where the center of lateral resistance is and then design your sail so the center of effort is forward of that. I didn't do it that way. I figured it on paper and used a bunch of assumptions and comparisons to other designs, resulting in a lot of sleepless nights and worries till it was launched haha..
Anyway best of luck with yours and rest assured they do work well.
Thanks for your comment!
@@TrevC-co6xk Thanks for the reply, Trevor. That's good advice. I've been re-consulting my library of boat designing books, including the "Bible" of junk rigs, and done all my calculations - knowing that the dynamic reality can be different to the static theory. My mast position fore-aft will be fixed as it will step in a tabernacle (for going under bridges, etc.). With any lug rig, one has some small adjustment fore-and-aft, but I've also designed in a step on the stern transom for a small mizzen in case of excessive lee helm. In addition, by making a tarp sail (cheap) I can test it first without risking a bunch of money, and make a better quality sail based on the trails with the tarp. As for keels, I will build them long enough to trim off either end to adjust the CLR if necessary, and there will be a skeg aft equal in draft to the keels, also to give stable drying out. Much fun ahead! All the best.
Watching you sailing made me scream inside "I need a boat...!!".
YOU REALLY DO !!!
@TrevC-co6xk it's been a long time since I want to build a sailboat, but kinda stuck in choosing what design, too much to choose only one, feel like I have to build every single design... aarrggh, I hate my mind
I know it's a huge dilemma! I've owned three different types of boats ( 24ft keel, 18ft trailer sailer and this one). They're all so different, but they take you to the same good place.
Very impressive performance! If you can get the gps data it's possible to wrangle it into a spreadsheet and produce a polar chart, interesting for viewing speed vs angel to the wind. It looks to me like you could do with either a vang, or a traveller on the back to keep the leech tight using mainsheet tension, to get a little more out of her still. Love the standing lug!
Thanks Thomas, yes it would be intriguing and useful to know that kind of detail. I would need something better than the app that I was using as it only measures speed in whole units ( as does my handheld Garmin GPS).
I can easily attach a boom vang and you are right. I should try that.
Have you tried swamping her to test your flotation? How about righting her after a capsize? I'm sure you're testing all of this. Looking very good mate!
That's definitely something I want to try at some stage, especially before I venture out and do some of the little coastal hops that I'm planning in the back of my mind. I know the perfect place to give it a go. Will be interesting to see if i can get enough leverage without a centreboard. I suppose I would need to attach a weight to the transom to simulate having my outboard there as well. All in good time. I will try some river cruising and take things steady till then. :)
Thanks again ! !
Wire on boat is probably to stop otters and other sea life from coming aboard. Lovely job on your boat I sail a Gartsode 130 12' clinker dinghy with a standing lug. For fun I added a removable sprit and often fly a jib. Are you playing the guitar? Sounds Nick Drake-esque
Haha yeah that's right, my son thought it looked like the top of a prison wall but it's security against seals probably. Yep, that's me having a dabble on the guitar.
I like your jib idea.
@@TrevC-co6xk Very nice playing! , Open tuning?
Thanks, no standard.
Fantastic boat!! May I ask what is is? Looks like a 1915 clinker
Thankyou! The details about it are in this vid, th-cam.com/video/CN17GwvU5S0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
It's 1940s and a plywood carvel.
Beau travail.cette voile est plutôt bien adapté à votre dériveur. de quelle matière est la voile . Merci
Merci ! The sail is just made out of medium wieght polyethylene tarp..the cheap kind from a hardware store. Thanks for watching,
Bisous.
What kid wouldn't benefit from a ride on this boat?
This big kid certainly does :)
Какая плотность брезента? Спасибо.
It is 100g/m2. It is adequate but if you can get 150g it would be perfect.