Since my last ranking video was one year ago, I decided to make this one extra beefy to compensate for all time lost! For my next ranking video which will release sometime in the next 3 months, the video lenght will go back to being shorter. Every single thing was taken into consideration when making this tier list, including addons, build synergies, anti-altruism capabilities, how easy they are to get value from, how hard do they get countered by competent survivors, how map dependent they are, etc… Thumbnail render was made by the lovely B.EMO, check them out and their renders here! x.com/B_EMOsRenders
The problem with BHVR tuning a killer based on kill rate is their stats are garbage. Imagine if Freddy all of a sudden started getting suicides on hook, DC's, and in general just people giving up. Welp time to nerf him because his kill rate is too high.
That isnt to say that all people want to be OP, people play clown all the time, he definitely isnt OP. Or even all that strong. He still performs fairly in most matches. The average survivor isnt good enough for tier lists to have a massively tangible effect on personal ability. After all, except for the very strongest killers, youre mostly playing the perks not the killer
Last time I faced a Trapper I was at Midwich and took first chase. I looped Trapper in that one room with the ramp and when he put a trap down I just hugged the loop tighter and easily avoided the trap. I could tell that pissed off the Trapper and he left me alone. Then we lost the match because we did snowball hard from sneaky, well-hidden traps.
Trapper sucks because he isn't fun to interact with at all, and his power only really works when survivors just can't see his traps which is unfun for several reasons
@@cryguy0000 Trapper is classic because he genuinely puts survivors on edge; if a few of them get trapped they and you've moved traps they've found they all get a bit more jumpy while also being hesitant in chase.
I'd just like to say one thing, yes ghostface does have the lowest kill rate, but a solid amount of the people who play him are friendly and end up letting the survivors escape
Yeah I almost never encounter a toxic ghost face. Except for the one I played against yesterday who got blinded 4 times in a row trying to pick me up lol.
@@MintSkull i think the tone of your voice can be toned down in terms of volume and it'd be great sleeping stuff, tho its kind of hard to fall asleep to something im interested on 💔
That match is what got me one of the hardest challenges in the game, which was to sacrifice all 4 on the basement from the very first tome. If not, I would have let Sable leave hahaha
And the worst part about legion is the second you get a kill a whole part of your power is gone because you can never get the fifth hit unless their dumb and decide to mend
thats why, you dont kill with legion until you ve hooked everyone 2 times. thats not the worst part about him, he s not losing anything, its just forcing a playstyle on you - ignoring survivors who are about to die already and finding those who still have lifes left
@@kurierdpd4586 killing the first survivor asap is pretty much required to get the pressure of gens. Usually after the first chase 1-2 gens are done, 2 people are doing gens, the 3rd is unhooking. If survivors are not healing you pretty much have no pressure anyways, despite being able to 1hit them. So killing off one of them to make it so 1 is doing gens, another is unhooking makes the game much more fair for any killer, especially as weak as legion
@@romangarder7015 your point of view is valid, however you can deal with that by equipping gen slowdown perks, like pain res + dms, etc. where the first chase and hook prevents one gen from being done. thats when my strategy works, especially when running bamboozle to help get those one shot survivors later. legion pin and the addon that makes them oblivious after getting hit with frenzy also make survivors paranoid and unable to heal so there s that. tho i could see how someone would prefer to just kill them and be done with them, sometimes i do it too when i face strong survivors who can loop well or have good teamwork etc.
@@romangarder7015ikr😂 like killing one makes the game so much easier. Downing frenzied rush hit loss doesn’t really hurt because I was getting them with only 3 survivors even though four were alive earlier. I mean if you get three hits the speed boost would make you the fastest killer in the game😂
3:15 P100 Freddy main here, he currently on live can place snares through walls again This bug came back with the release of Lara Croft and still hasn’t been patched 😊
@@emperor_putenskiy I got Sadako and Chucky to P100 before doing Freddy recently Nightmare on elm street is one of my favorite horror franchises and was one of the gateways to the genre for me because it was my Dad’s first horror movie Plus, I’ve been playing Freddy since I picked up DBD back in 2018 no matter how weak or strong he was, I always stuck with him
0:40 "Her killrate" The problem was people who play a game they want want to play and then DC/throw the game killing all their teammages in the process.
I think they said that even taking DC’s or killing themselves on hook out of the picture, she still had a 69% kill rate which they didn’t like. Granted, a lot of that could still be influenced by matches that were unwinnable because of bots/early suicides on hook, but it mostly came down to her power not really being easy to understand or counter. As such, they heavily overcompensated and made her basically worthless to artificially lower her kill rate and (maybe?) justify her rework.
@@fatalduchessdineondirt6629 I don't know what was so hard to understand about her power. If you get scanned, she gets faster. So if a teammate is being chased, DON'T GET SCANNED. The drones are not subtle. But the amount of people simply sitting on a gen letting themselves get constantly scanned was insane. Or just walking up to a drone to turn it off instead of crouching towards it.
cool tier list and all but god this video really made me notice just how riveting your gameplay is . watching this drac gameplay and seeing u hit some wild shots is crazy, im takin notes over here
Your videos have gotten so good lately, the editing is really good, the ingame footage matching exactly what you are saying about each killer for example (44:53), it isn't necesarry at all, but I really appreciate it. Tier lists are always fun to watch as each player has their own opinions of the killers, Good video.
Thank you! I try to make the videos as dynamic as possible for those that do end up watching them visually and not just listening, and also the upgrade on my PC allows me to store so much more footage than in the past :D
My only issue with Legion is that they are the only killer whose power becomes worse when they are winning. As they can't easily get the 4th slash if a survivor is on hook or if a survivor is dead, which means you have a power that can at best injure survivors while you end up being an m1 killer most of the time. Personally when I think of Legion I think back to the 2010's and Creepypasta's as the Legion is the optimal lookalike to proxies. So I am wondering if we could in future have a power thats more tied to The Entity than just going adrenaline junkie for a couple of seconds. I also feel that the Legion is the only killer with a bad endgame as the only addon they have for that is BFF's which is horrible since it works without the use of your power. Which creates this playstyle where you forcibly tunnel 1 survivor out the game and use all your talents to slow down the endgame to make BFF's worthwhile its pretty toxic imo and I would like to avoid this playstyle at all costs and would rather Legion had a more basic but useful power that worked at all stages of the game.
@@MilkTestingMan A lot of the community is too focused on just winning now, that if some survivors mains know they aren't going to win, they just DC or kill themselves.
while this video is definitely accurate at high level play, new players shouldn't take this stuff to heart, this video assumes survivors are always 4 experienced players, in a swf, on comms, taking the game seriously, which just isn't accurate, play who you enjoy.
1:27:35 Of which only 3 are good, another 2 are decent but completely destroy your muscle memory, and the rest are either ususless or almost inconsecuential. Doesn't matter you can use all your add-ons when most are bellow mediocre, look at Pyramid Head.
THANK YOU!! I adore Knight's macroplay focus because that's how I always played him!! It's so fun, I'm so glad using your guards intelligently is actually rewarded now :D
I find myself enjoying playing against him more as a survivor, its a respectable skill keeping survivors constantly shuffling around the map with guards disorienting and chasing. I have found some subtle cheaters though sadly, they were walling without any aura reading from scupper far off distances. I hope I run into you, love the opportunity to go up against a master of a killer that isnt blatantly unfair
@@NewSirenSong I'm so glad! I've heard from a lot of people he's more fun to play against now which is so amazing bc I would always prefer to be fun to go against than not lol
26 game win streak on Pig. Discordance Ruin Bamboozle Nurse’s Calling **Tampered Timer ***Rule Set No.2 Discordance will get u a guaranteed down, if not a hit. Focus on injuring all survivors after getting first hook. Stealth + Nurses around 2-3 gens which is when u start using traps will fold teams. Rule set hides box auras so even if they get their trap off, they’ll waste time wandering aimlessly.
Niceee. I play pig everyday, try thatnaphobia, discordance, dying light, and overcharge (doctor perk) this one slaps because survivors usually work together after healing so you can trap the gen and slow them down even more
I always enjoy your perspective on these things. Been seeing more Nightmares lately, I think a lot of people are excited for his rework. He definitely needs help. Whenever Plague's scheduled tweaks come, I really hope BHVR doesn't destroy her. She's already so well-balanced. Even people who don't like her don't really take issue with her! I'm so scared. Also, Spirit has been broken in multiple ways since the engine change, and they STILL won't fix her. It's really starting to piss me off. As of this post, her phasing in her POV is super quiet but her husk is super loud. Her general SFX are also incredibly loud if you're up against her, and it's really obnoxious.
I will say… regardless of ranking, BHVR really need some killers that are equally as good on console (controller) as they are on PC. Hitbox killers (Nemesis, Drac etc) are sometimes absolutely impossible on controller if you are suffering from low priority.
That's true and something I didn't take into account outside of Cenobite. This ranking is focused on PC / Mouse and Keyboard inputs! With controller I can definitely see killers like Slinger and Pyramid Head struggle!
@@MintSkull Nemesis is one of my favourite character, literally, ever… yet I detest using him on DBD because of how ass it is to use his power with controller, that you can’t even be bothered to learn it’s so frustrating/the times you’ll get toxic survivors. So, I main Knight.
The Blight is pretty ass to play with controller. But I don't find Deathslinger that hard... Probably because I've played somewhat 20 years FPS's on console
What a great and detailed clip! Insta-sub from Germany. I know now what my next 3 killers I’m gonna build are gonna be - a perfect middle between the ones I like stylewise, my skill preferences and your ranking. Most helpful video for killer mains concerning the game as a whole. Keep up the good work 👍 10/10
@ unless I’m running a frenzy built, yeah, that is most of Legion. You chase, M1, sometimes you frenzy and get some quick injures or some distance, maybe a body block. 90% of getting a down as Legion comes from how well you can mind game and predict where a survivor is or will be
@@Frost_Winterfallor xenomorph because it doesn’t matter the skill rate of a survivor power or not he’s extremely presurring and terrifying and with the tunnels your bound to always be in chase
I'd definitely place lich higher. He has a useful spell for just about every situation. People say they're watered down relative to the abilities of others, but i'd say they're all still strong, especially the ranged attack which is fast to throw out and it slows survivors down even if it misses.
I think sadako should be bottom of a-tier personally. I’m a sadako main and whilst yes her power is definitely the perfect power composition for noob-stomping, if you maximise the usage of condomned (not just go for kills put use it for slowdown as well) I think she can have the best slowdown in the game + the map wide presence. Also, I’m not trying her anti-loop is great but it is not that bad on loops that are short and small which is quite a lot of fillers and even on longer loops it can prevent one or two loops before the survivor breaks the pallet. (Try using the videotape copy+bloody fingernails probably her best two add ons but the remote control also works really well for newer sadako players or newer players in general).
Thanks for sharing your feedback! I for sure see how Sadako can be strong, my biggest issue with her is how her power depends on survivors knowing what to do. Overall she is indeed strong, especially against SoloQ and because DbD is not explained for beginners and casuals so the majority of players don't know what to do. On open maps, without the best addons, and against a team that knows, I don't see Sadako being on the level of Huntress. I can feel this as well anytime I play against her. With Xenomorph, I do feel pressure when I am chased. With Sadako, I make sure to interact with tapes, know not to drop pallets if she is demanifested, play her as an M1 etc. Outside of very specific cases against Sadakos with condemned builds, it is hard for me to lose against a Sadako unless my teams plays horribly! I love her common video tape addon with the remote on indoor maps. Then, I can for sure say she is easily A tier! Not even low A, imo she is better than Pyramid at that point because her pressure is very strong and you cannot ignore it, or else, you get eliminated from a match! (And fingernail is goated)
I main Pig, Onryo, and Dredge. Pig for the boops (of course), but also because she's the only killer i have played where i feel like a winner even when i lose. Onryo because she's fast and her anti-pallet ability, not to mention her built in iconic mori. Dredge I like to play for the locker tech and catching survivors completely off guard, as well as Nightfall which helps give me an advantage. I used to main Executioner and Nemesis for a bit, but they ultimately fell into the same problem: survivors were able to accurately avoid their secondary attack, which really sucked. P-Head especially, a string of bad matches for me caused me to put him aside for the time being.
In my 1100 hours of playing I think the only time I died to a pig trap was my first time playing against one I tried to run out of the exit games with a trap on my head.
I'm going say this now Freddy and Myers are going to be in next two ptbs if you are wondering where I saw this it's on DBD's steam page 7 killers and 8 perks changes are coming in November plus UI improvements. The nightmare on Elm street chapter seems to be the focus on Decembers PTB beside the new chapter coming out that month im surprised no one has talked about this yet but I thought I through this out here except for you
Was going for twins adept and literally the game I got it i was able to slug all 4 survivors somehow. I got one down with Victor on the crow map upstairs on the balcony, waited when I noticed someone was nearby to help, jumped on them with Victor, downed them, saw another person picking up the first downed them and then quickly downed the person they picked up, and the 4th person was down below I chased her until I was able to down her. It was wild and I felt so great about it, definitely made me realize how great they can be.
Dracula is my favorite Killer atm along with Demogorgon and Nemesis. The next patch notes have him as a character who's getting tweaks, and that really worries me...
I'm a Japanese dbd player, but killers are at a huge disadvantage in Asia compared to North America. Chucky, which ranks high in the rankings, is the weakest in Asia. We at Killer Sen are always made to cry by survivors every day.(ちなみに私は英文が苦手です。)
Not to trash talk you, as your native tongue clearly isn't english (you still speak it well), but you can't call your second-worst tier average. Average means a typical value in a set of data. According to your data, your decent tier is the average. Anyway, ill continue watching the video now.
I get what you mean, and statistically indeed the decent killers are average. It's hard to explain for me in words what I mean, but basically since this is a "continuation" of my past tier list, I just want to show how the majority of killers are now better than average! So for example Ghost Face is statistically a worse killer, while Doctor is the true average, but Doctor is IMO better than average. The more I write the more I see how hard it is to convey what I am trying to say hahaha
Do not sleep on nurse's calling Artist with severed hands, oh grief oh lover and gift of pain, which is insane against exhaustion perks, probably the strongest survivor perks. You can slap on some pain res or grim embrace too, and of course dms and/or discordance
You're underestimating Dredge. I'd put him somewhere around where Singularity is. Yeah, locker placements can be bad but both his other powers are SPECTACULAR. Even with bad locker RNG it can still be used to provide more map pressure than most killers have. A killer with such strong anti loop and well above average map pressure should easily be placed in A tier. I feel like there is more meaningful counter play to Wesker, Xeno, and Huntress than there is to Dredge.
As a Dredge main, his anti loop is mediocre at best. He's also too map dependent cause of the locker placements. He can be even better than Singu in maps like Midwich, but otherwise, he's considerably weaker.
@nukacolalemon Mostly. The problem with Dredge is that he gets significantly worse when the survivors play like people with a functional brain. With experience, you can play better against killers like Pyramid or Dracula, for example, but their powers are still viable and strong. Dregde straight up loses his anti loop on most cases if a survivor plays with their eyes open.
As a Slinger main I agree completely. His 1v1 is the best or at least top 3 in the game, but 4v1 is kinda bad. I enjoy him for the cool shots you can make on most maps. Dont care if I lose, but if I hit the clips for discord I am already satisfied. 😊
I miss DBD sometimes. Randomly lost my thirst for PVP one day and not been able to get it back since. So many new and cool killers since I last played!
I main Dracula and Chucky and I can tell my opinion ❤ I think your opinions on Dracula are totally fair! He is so fun to play once you fully understand his kit. Chucky still gets such gross hits with his m2 and I would go as far as saying they could prevent m2 faking altogether and he would still be crazy with it
I agree that billy belongs in the S tier, but after hte overdsrive nerf id say hes in spot 3 or 4, before the nerf the second place made sense, but as of now, you get overdrive not nearly as often and it starts decaying so fast, that he has taken a hit to his power. But honestly, it was deserved, he was just too strong
The only change Myers needs is to get rid of the stalk limit on survivors. Instead of not giving any stalk at all it should give stalk at 50% speed. IMO that’s the only thing that is wrong with Myers in DBD.
I miss the pre rework freddy, wish there was an option to use old freddy because it was the most fun ive had in dbd He had insane add ons. You could use the class photo to highlight other survivors when you slept one, and the pills to keep you invisible while waiting the 7 seconds for sleep transition Even top tier swf were forced to be on edge the entire match never knowing if freddy will stay after the 7 seconds. It was incredibly fun
Random video idea: Can you do a video on what you think all of the killers would say in an endgame chat? Wesker/Chucky/Legion would probably be cocky trashtalkers, Meyers would say nothing, Unknown would type cryptic nonsense that vaguely resembles real chatting, and Plague would be a foreign language you don't understand. Singularity would analyze the perks to more efficiently kill future survivors. Just a few ideas
She feels strong because against the average casual player, she is an absolute stomper. But any time I play her against decent survivors on maps that do not favor me, she feels C tier. It all depends on who you play against, and with killers like Wesker or Huntress, it doesn't matter that much because their power is fundamentally strong!
imma be so real we need a solo queue tier list as well because BHVR didn't really add too many options for solo queue survivors to have individual counterplay against a killers power or main playstyle
In my opinion dracula is better than spirit, because he has just a better version of her power thats unlimited and switching has basically no cooldown and he also has two additional powers that are both good, doggo being the worst but still.
Personally, I can agree with the majority of the list, but as you said with her spot, Sadako is a very contested spot. Personally, I'd put her at the bottom of average at best. She's a stealth killer with zero stealth thanks to her lullaby giving her away with the visual terror radius. Her one chase power with pallet-stun prevention only works demanifested, and is more of a bandaid fix than anything else. Her teleport is really all she has, which can be taken away by competent survivors. She doesnt have the same upside Wraith has when demanifested, with speed and actual stealth, and you can get her antistun on any killer by just using Enduring. She can stomp new players, but pretty much any killer can. She does have a few fun gimmicks you can do but overall she's just in a sad place imo... but hey, at least she HAS an actual power, unlike Skull Merchant, who is just M1 alone now-
Also Tricster can instantly hit you after hiting his final knife and pick you up instantly before your animation of falling even finishes. That needs to be fixed
I struggle really hard against coordinated teams that know how to play against her, especially when they step on the traps on purpose to make me waste time. Could easily be a skill issue and I admit that! But I feel more confident in winning matches against SWF with any of the killers above her. Like, give me Wraith over Hag any day!
Probably the one I disagreed with the most. I don’t go against super coordinated swfs most of the time. Swfs do feel miserable, but she’s crazy against soloq. Wraith vs soloq still feels like a challenge, hag vs soloq feels like an auto win.
Trickster could snipe further before, and his base-kit knife TTK was faster than current main event- in which you need to unlock by hitting survivors. The primary defining factor of Tricksters ability to snipe at range is TTK as laceration decay quickly becomes a concern if the survivor has enough time to reach a strong tile, recoil did not affect the best Tricksters because tap-firing eliminated recoil as the interval between throws when tapping would circumvent the built-in recoil system allowing you to fire without recoil anyway. The only real big benefits Trickster received was ammo efficiency and 5% movement speed when NOT using his power, all other metrics of his kit got severely nerfed (to the tune of 33% + on a lot of different scale factors.) So no, unfortunately Tricksters changes in November did not result in a net-buff, just a kit made significantly easier than previously. Main Event is worse than our old basekit, not to mention the significant nerfs to our laceration decay, 8 knife meter, and overall reduction of versatility.
Since my last ranking video was one year ago, I decided to make this one extra beefy to compensate for all time lost! For my next ranking video which will release sometime in the next 3 months, the video lenght will go back to being shorter.
Every single thing was taken into consideration when making this tier list, including addons, build synergies, anti-altruism capabilities, how easy they are to get value from, how hard do they get countered by competent survivors, how map dependent they are, etc…
Thumbnail render was made by the lovely B.EMO, check them out and their renders here! x.com/B_EMOsRenders
The best killer is whatever killer I’m against as survivor.
We all know the first spot is going to that random Leon
Random Leon with Self Care
Weird way to spell "Sable Ward"
@@MintSkull and bite the bullet. I am that Leon.
You mean Sable Ward?
Sable you mean? She’s by FAR the worst character in the game
The problem with BHVR tuning a killer based on kill rate is their stats are garbage. Imagine if Freddy all of a sudden started getting suicides on hook, DC's, and in general just people giving up. Welp time to nerf him because his kill rate is too high.
Funny you say that because Freddy has one of the highest killrates in the game
@@MintSkull My point exactly.
I actually think freddy is fairly decent. Most people just want to be OP, which freddy isnt.
That isnt to say that all people want to be OP, people play clown all the time, he definitely isnt OP. Or even all that strong. He still performs fairly in most matches. The average survivor isnt good enough for tier lists to have a massively tangible effect on personal ability. After all, except for the very strongest killers, youre mostly playing the perks not the killer
@@NewSirenSong Iv'e played freddy and he is decent, but he isn't in an area where I would play him more.
Last time I faced a Trapper I was at Midwich and took first chase. I looped Trapper in that one room with the ramp and when he put a trap down I just hugged the loop tighter and easily avoided the trap. I could tell that pissed off the Trapper and he left me alone. Then we lost the match because we did snowball hard from sneaky, well-hidden traps.
Classic Trapper experience. Also Midwich is super good for Trapper!
Who was the Trapper? That might of been me
@@twinzzlers Were you wearing the Slipknot Mask?
Trapper sucks because he isn't fun to interact with at all, and his power only really works when survivors just can't see his traps which is unfun for several reasons
@@cryguy0000 Trapper is classic because he genuinely puts survivors on edge; if a few of them get trapped they and you've moved traps they've found they all get a bit more jumpy while also being hesitant in chase.
I'd just like to say one thing, yes ghostface does have the lowest kill rate, but a solid amount of the people who play him are friendly and end up letting the survivors escape
Yeah I almost never encounter a toxic ghost face. Except for the one I played against yesterday who got blinded 4 times in a row trying to pick me up lol.
that is NOT true, the amount pf t-bags, tunnels, body blocking after unhook 😢
Nah he just sucks bro. At least in higher tiers
I love these longer videos from you Mint. Gives me something to listen to while I work 😁
Hopefully the audio is well leveled so it can also be used as a way to fall asleep!
@@MintSkull 10 hour video next, ples
@@goneja75772 Hr video 😏
@@MintSkull i think the tone of your voice can be toned down in terms of volume and it'd be great sleeping stuff, tho its kind of hard to fall asleep to something im interested on 💔
@@MintSkull it sure can ive been using them to fall asleep and it has been a great time
I'm sorry but the cut from sable invocationing to both of them hooked had me dead 😭
That match is what got me one of the hardest challenges in the game, which was to sacrifice all 4 on the basement from the very first tome. If not, I would have let Sable leave hahaha
Same 😭🙏
When in the video was that?
Yeah when was it?!
@@Froggert880 2:42:31
And the worst part about legion is the second you get a kill a whole part of your power is gone because you can never get the fifth hit unless their dumb and decide to mend
thats why, you dont kill with legion until you ve hooked everyone 2 times. thats not the worst part about him, he s not losing anything, its just forcing a playstyle on you - ignoring survivors who are about to die already and finding those who still have lifes left
@@kurierdpd4586 killing the first survivor asap is pretty much required to get the pressure of gens. Usually after the first chase 1-2 gens are done, 2 people are doing gens, the 3rd is unhooking. If survivors are not healing you pretty much have no pressure anyways, despite being able to 1hit them. So killing off one of them to make it so 1 is doing gens, another is unhooking makes the game much more fair for any killer, especially as weak as legion
@@romangarder7015 your point of view is valid, however you can deal with that by equipping gen slowdown perks, like pain res + dms, etc. where the first chase and hook prevents one gen from being done. thats when my strategy works, especially when running bamboozle to help get those one shot survivors later. legion pin and the addon that makes them oblivious after getting hit with frenzy also make survivors paranoid and unable to heal so there s that. tho i could see how someone would prefer to just kill them and be done with them, sometimes i do it too when i face strong survivors who can loop well or have good teamwork etc.
@@romangarder7015ikr😂 like killing one makes the game so much easier. Downing frenzied rush hit loss doesn’t really hurt because I was getting them with only 3 survivors even though four were alive earlier. I mean if you get three hits the speed boost would make you the fastest killer in the game😂
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P100 Freddy main here, he currently on live can place snares through walls again
This bug came back with the release of Lara Croft and still hasn’t been patched 😊
My man... out of all killers in the game to main and get p100 on, why choose Freddy? Fan on the films? :D
@@emperor_putenskiy only for the door breaking animation i guess
@@emperor_putenskiy
I got Sadako and Chucky to P100 before doing Freddy recently
Nightmare on elm street is one of my favorite horror franchises and was one of the gateways to the genre for me because it was my Dad’s first horror movie
Plus, I’ve been playing Freddy since I picked up DBD back in 2018 no matter how weak or strong he was, I always stuck with him
* pressed F*
p100 freddy is insane. huge respect
0:40 "Her killrate" The problem was people who play a game they want want to play and then DC/throw the game killing all their teammages in the process.
I think they said that even taking DC’s or killing themselves on hook out of the picture, she still had a 69% kill rate which they didn’t like. Granted, a lot of that could still be influenced by matches that were unwinnable because of bots/early suicides on hook, but it mostly came down to her power not really being easy to understand or counter. As such, they heavily overcompensated and made her basically worthless to artificially lower her kill rate and (maybe?) justify her rework.
@@fatalduchessdineondirt6629 I don't know what was so hard to understand about her power. If you get scanned, she gets faster. So if a teammate is being chased, DON'T GET SCANNED. The drones are not subtle. But the amount of people simply sitting on a gen letting themselves get constantly scanned was insane. Or just walking up to a drone to turn it off instead of crouching towards it.
cool tier list and all but god this video really made me notice just how riveting your gameplay is . watching this drac gameplay and seeing u hit some wild shots is crazy, im takin notes over here
Have been waiting a year for the next killer tier list, very good video. 👍
Hope it delivers! This is a one time only tier list, there is no way I will make future ones as long (Unless you enjoy them like this!)
Finally someone who doesn’t think Chucky is B tier or whatever. This kind of chase power AND stealth? With such a short recharge time? Chuck is great
Yeah I don't get how people say chucky is b or lower tiers, he's really strong and genuinely top 10-15 killers
Who tf puts him in b tier anyway almost everyone ranks him A tier
@@inferno009 You’d be surprised by how many people on Reddit say he’s not that strong
@@retsell459Probably trying to gaslight surv players 😂
Chucky in the right hands is terrifying, even someone learning has good tools with chuck.
The Dwight when hiding in a locker all game and failing skills checks should be S tier
Oh Skull Merchant…what will become of you.
I hope they rework her into something cool!
@@MintSkullher needs an 100% rework, lore, skins, everything
@@MintSkullSharp-Arm Jane isn’t having a good time😭
Your videos have gotten so good lately, the editing is really good, the ingame footage matching exactly what you are saying about each killer for example (44:53), it isn't necesarry at all, but I really appreciate it.
Tier lists are always fun to watch as each player has their own opinions of the killers, Good video.
Thank you! I try to make the videos as dynamic as possible for those that do end up watching them visually and not just listening, and also the upgrade on my PC allows me to store so much more footage than in the past :D
So glad you showed the two most terrifying killers "Gus face" and "School merchant"
Just a lighthearted goof about your accent btw no offense meant 😁. Great vid!
My only issue with Legion is that they are the only killer whose power becomes worse when they are winning. As they can't easily get the 4th slash if a survivor is on hook or if a survivor is dead, which means you have a power that can at best injure survivors while you end up being an m1 killer most of the time.
Personally when I think of Legion I think back to the 2010's and Creepypasta's as the Legion is the optimal lookalike to proxies. So I am wondering if we could in future have a power thats more tied to The Entity than just going adrenaline junkie for a couple of seconds. I also feel that the Legion is the only killer with a bad endgame as the only addon they have for that is BFF's which is horrible since it works without the use of your power. Which creates this playstyle where you forcibly tunnel 1 survivor out the game and use all your talents to slow down the endgame to make BFF's worthwhile its pretty toxic imo and I would like to avoid this playstyle at all costs and would rather Legion had a more basic but useful power that worked at all stages of the game.
Seeing Billy at #2 really does feel nostalgic.
I just started playing Billy, and man when he’s on a good map he’s so good. Crossmapping people is one of the best feelings in the game.
@@MilkTestingMan He's really hard to play as IMO, but if you learn him well, he is very strong.
@@braytonewell he is. I’ve had so many people quit or DC when they realize I’m a decent Billy lol.
@@MilkTestingMan A lot of the community is too focused on just winning now, that if some survivors mains know they aren't going to win, they just DC or kill themselves.
while this video is definitely accurate at high level play, new players shouldn't take this stuff to heart, this video assumes survivors are always 4 experienced players, in a swf, on comms, taking the game seriously, which just isn't accurate, play who you enjoy.
I'm not going to lie dredge is pretty underrated
He's even better with a specific build
Dredge is the hidden top dog that’s capped because they didn’t want to give baby Dwight more homes
Dredge is literally S tier but no one believes me
@raider360X_sot yes especially if you use
Friends till the end
Surge
Alien instinct
Lethal pursuer
@@Pgityu30 Alien Instinct? Just use Barbecue, it doesnt show itself and its more reliable ^^'
1:27:35 Of which only 3 are good, another 2 are decent but completely destroy your muscle memory, and the rest are either ususless or almost inconsecuential. Doesn't matter you can use all your add-ons when most are bellow mediocre, look at Pyramid Head.
THANK YOU!! I adore Knight's macroplay focus because that's how I always played him!! It's so fun, I'm so glad using your guards intelligently is actually rewarded now :D
I find myself enjoying playing against him more as a survivor, its a respectable skill keeping survivors constantly shuffling around the map with guards disorienting and chasing. I have found some subtle cheaters though sadly, they were walling without any aura reading from scupper far off distances. I hope I run into you, love the opportunity to go up against a master of a killer that isnt blatantly unfair
@@NewSirenSong I'm so glad! I've heard from a lot of people he's more fun to play against now which is so amazing bc I would always prefer to be fun to go against than not lol
26 game win streak on Pig.
Discordance
Ruin
Bamboozle
Nurse’s Calling
**Tampered Timer
***Rule Set No.2
Discordance will get u a guaranteed down, if not a hit. Focus on injuring all survivors after getting first hook. Stealth + Nurses around 2-3 gens which is when u start using traps will fold teams.
Rule set hides box auras so even if they get their trap off, they’ll waste time wandering aimlessly.
Thanks man will try this build
Niceee. I play pig everyday, try thatnaphobia, discordance, dying light, and overcharge (doctor perk) this one slaps because survivors usually work together after healing so you can trap the gen and slow them down even more
@ any specific add-ons?
I always enjoy your perspective on these things. Been seeing more Nightmares lately, I think a lot of people are excited for his rework. He definitely needs help. Whenever Plague's scheduled tweaks come, I really hope BHVR doesn't destroy her. She's already so well-balanced. Even people who don't like her don't really take issue with her! I'm so scared. Also, Spirit has been broken in multiple ways since the engine change, and they STILL won't fix her. It's really starting to piss me off. As of this post, her phasing in her POV is super quiet but her husk is super loud. Her general SFX are also incredibly loud if you're up against her, and it's really obnoxious.
I will say… regardless of ranking, BHVR really need some killers that are equally as good on console (controller) as they are on PC.
Hitbox killers (Nemesis, Drac etc) are sometimes absolutely impossible on controller if you are suffering from low priority.
That's true and something I didn't take into account outside of Cenobite. This ranking is focused on PC / Mouse and Keyboard inputs! With controller I can definitely see killers like Slinger and Pyramid Head struggle!
@@MintSkull Nemesis is one of my favourite character, literally, ever… yet I detest using him on DBD because of how ass it is to use his power with controller, that you can’t even be bothered to learn it’s so frustrating/the times you’ll get toxic survivors.
So, I main Knight.
i play on console, and i have trouble only with deathslinger. Aiming is not that hard, trust me
The Blight is pretty ass to play with controller. But I don't find Deathslinger that hard... Probably because I've played somewhat 20 years FPS's on console
I didn't expect this
Trapper needs an add-on that let him start with all traps open 6:44
Top tier informational DBD vid, up there with the best of Otz's stuff.
What a great and detailed clip! Insta-sub from Germany. I know now what my next 3 killers I’m gonna build are gonna be - a perfect middle between the ones I like stylewise, my skill preferences and your ranking. Most helpful video for killer mains concerning the game as a whole. Keep up the good work 👍
10/10
I'm a Legion main, and even then I sometimes forget for most of the match that I even have a power
So you don’t use a power and just chase?
@ unless I’m running a frenzy built, yeah, that is most of Legion. You chase, M1, sometimes you frenzy and get some quick injures or some distance, maybe a body block. 90% of getting a down as Legion comes from how well you can mind game and predict where a survivor is or will be
@@slifer-2890sounds wild😮 I rarely chase mostly rush. I’d love to play against his legion
@@Frost_Winterfallhonestly I like nemesis a lot because your bound to hit survivors no matter what and get them sick and force them to use the vaccine
@@Frost_Winterfallor xenomorph because it doesn’t matter the skill rate of a survivor power or not he’s extremely presurring and terrifying and with the tunnels your bound to always be in chase
I'd definitely place lich higher. He has a useful spell for just about every situation. People say they're watered down relative to the abilities of others, but i'd say they're all still strong, especially the ranged attack which is fast to throw out and it slows survivors down even if it misses.
thanks for creating such a high effort and informative video :)
Cenobite seems way too low. Forcing survivors to play your game is so strong.
mintskull u r my goat easily up there on my top 3 dbd youtubers with otz keep the hard work up hope its worth ur time i never skip a vid
Best video to watch during
My four hour flight 😭❤️
Bon voyage!
52:24 wow that dramaturgy usage was nasty 😭
I'm a p100 bubba and I definitely agree with his skill ceiling being high
another banger🔥
Comment for the algorithm, love your vids man
Mintskull: Artist is the only killer that can pressure the whole map without a mobility power
Huntress: 🥺
Huntress can't hit survivors behind walls! She still needs line of sight. Artist doesn't care about walls, only elevations!
@MintSkull yeah that's true but.... *brings dead dawg saloon*
I think sadako should be bottom of a-tier personally. I’m a sadako main and whilst yes her power is definitely the perfect power composition for noob-stomping, if you maximise the usage of condomned (not just go for kills put use it for slowdown as well) I think she can have the best slowdown in the game + the map wide presence. Also, I’m not trying her anti-loop is great but it is not that bad on loops that are short and small which is quite a lot of fillers and even on longer loops it can prevent one or two loops before the survivor breaks the pallet. (Try using the videotape copy+bloody fingernails probably her best two add ons but the remote control also works really well for newer sadako players or newer players in general).
Thanks for sharing your feedback! I for sure see how Sadako can be strong, my biggest issue with her is how her power depends on survivors knowing what to do. Overall she is indeed strong, especially against SoloQ and because DbD is not explained for beginners and casuals so the majority of players don't know what to do. On open maps, without the best addons, and against a team that knows, I don't see Sadako being on the level of Huntress.
I can feel this as well anytime I play against her. With Xenomorph, I do feel pressure when I am chased. With Sadako, I make sure to interact with tapes, know not to drop pallets if she is demanifested, play her as an M1 etc. Outside of very specific cases against Sadakos with condemned builds, it is hard for me to lose against a Sadako unless my teams plays horribly!
I love her common video tape addon with the remote on indoor maps. Then, I can for sure say she is easily A tier! Not even low A, imo she is better than Pyramid at that point because her pressure is very strong and you cannot ignore it, or else, you get eliminated from a match! (And fingernail is goated)
16:52 new killer:MintSkull
I main Pig, Onryo, and Dredge.
Pig for the boops (of course), but also because she's the only killer i have played where i feel like a winner even when i lose.
Onryo because she's fast and her anti-pallet ability, not to mention her built in iconic mori.
Dredge I like to play for the locker tech and catching survivors completely off guard, as well as Nightfall which helps give me an advantage.
I used to main Executioner and Nemesis for a bit, but they ultimately fell into the same problem: survivors were able to accurately avoid their secondary attack, which really sucked. P-Head especially, a string of bad matches for me caused me to put him aside for the time being.
In my 1100 hours of playing I think the only time I died to a pig trap was my first time playing against one I tried to run out of the exit games with a trap on my head.
i think knight might be a tier just because if u good at him like wolfe he is 2 killers in one and can put u in a lose lose situation
i haven't played since May and haven't cared to watch anything, but i'll always be here for a MintSkull vid ❤
Im happy with the Dredge, the Singularity and the unknown. (Im main all three of them).
Kinda wish freddy had 2 dream pallets and 2 dream snares basekit
I'm going say this now Freddy and Myers are going to be in next two ptbs if you are wondering where I saw this it's on DBD's steam page 7 killers and 8 perks changes are coming in November plus UI improvements. The nightmare on Elm street chapter seems to be the focus on Decembers PTB beside the new chapter coming out that month im surprised no one has talked about this yet but I thought I through this out here except for you
Oh! a long video to watch with great content :o
Was going for twins adept and literally the game I got it i was able to slug all 4 survivors somehow.
I got one down with Victor on the crow map upstairs on the balcony, waited when I noticed someone was nearby to help, jumped on them with Victor, downed them, saw another person picking up the first downed them and then quickly downed the person they picked up, and the 4th person was down below I chased her until I was able to down her. It was wild and I felt so great about it, definitely made me realize how great they can be.
I love the Monto reference you threw in, when talking about Legion. "to slow the game down, just a lil' bit"
59:07 As a Xenomorph main, I'm really sad that not many people play it!😢
I play xeno, not the strongest but I like the alien movies
I'm just happy dracula is here lol
And he is pretty strong too!
Dracula is my favorite Killer atm along with Demogorgon and Nemesis. The next patch notes have him as a character who's getting tweaks, and that really worries me...
Babe wake up, another mintskull video dropped
keep up the fun puns minty!!
I'm a Japanese dbd player, but killers are at a huge disadvantage in Asia compared to North America. Chucky, which ranks high in the rankings, is the weakest in Asia. We at Killer Sen are always made to cry by survivors every day.(ちなみに私は英文が苦手です。)
Not to trash talk you, as your native tongue clearly isn't english (you still speak it well), but you can't call your second-worst tier average. Average means a typical value in a set of data. According to your data, your decent tier is the average. Anyway, ill continue watching the video now.
I get what you mean, and statistically indeed the decent killers are average. It's hard to explain for me in words what I mean, but basically since this is a "continuation" of my past tier list, I just want to show how the majority of killers are now better than average! So for example Ghost Face is statistically a worse killer, while Doctor is the true average, but Doctor is IMO better than average. The more I write the more I see how hard it is to convey what I am trying to say hahaha
don't be that guy, nobody likes that guy.
@@h445 It's just constructive criticism. Don't have a stick up your ass, even the content creator agreed.
What is the Dredge glowup you're speaking of? I've never heard of it. When did it happen?
Of killers that I play:
I have 0 killers in top 5
I have 1 killer in top 10
I have 2 killers in top 15
I play 2/3 of the bottom 3.
Chat, am I cooked?
For breakfast?
Yes, my son. You are 100% cooked.
It's ok you don't waste a good suffering
Play Billy. Getting decent with his chainsaw is tough, but once you do he’s so much fun.
11:02 i was expecting monto to pop up LOL
Do not sleep on nurse's calling Artist with severed hands, oh grief oh lover and gift of pain, which is insane against exhaustion perks, probably the strongest survivor perks. You can slap on some pain res or grim embrace too, and of course dms and/or discordance
You're underestimating Dredge. I'd put him somewhere around where Singularity is. Yeah, locker placements can be bad but both his other powers are SPECTACULAR. Even with bad locker RNG it can still be used to provide more map pressure than most killers have. A killer with such strong anti loop and well above average map pressure should easily be placed in A tier. I feel like there is more meaningful counter play to Wesker, Xeno, and Huntress than there is to Dredge.
As a Dredge main, his anti loop is mediocre at best. He's also too map dependent cause of the locker placements. He can be even better than Singu in maps like Midwich, but otherwise, he's considerably weaker.
@@Aki...544I agree with this statement as he loses strength the more braincells a survivor has
@@ToanIV Isnt that the case of all the killers ?
@nukacolalemon Mostly. The problem with Dredge is that he gets significantly worse when the survivors play like people with a functional brain.
With experience, you can play better against killers like Pyramid or Dracula, for example, but their powers are still viable and strong. Dregde straight up loses his anti loop on most cases if a survivor plays with their eyes open.
@@nukacolalemon Very true but I notice the braincells on dredge or at least in my experience
Once it clicked in my brain how to consistently block choke points as a cloaked Wraith, he became my instant favorite.
Will you do this with survivors based on cosmetics, stealth, maybe Perks and all important factors like how cool they are
It's nice to see my two girls Plague and Artist up there in top 10.
As a Slinger main I agree completely. His 1v1 is the best or at least top 3 in the game, but 4v1 is kinda bad. I enjoy him for the cool shots you can make on most maps. Dont care if I lose, but if I hit the clips for discord I am already satisfied. 😊
18:03 from the d to the c to the a to the b? Idk when was onryo's prime
Chucky deserves to be S Tier simply because he can voice your frustrations for you
I miss DBD sometimes. Randomly lost my thirst for PVP one day and not been able to get it back since. So many new and cool killers since I last played!
Thank you for your effort! I really appreciate It!
Agreed, Artist is S-tier
Gotta bring out the popcorn for this one
I main Dracula and Chucky and I can tell my opinion ❤ I think your opinions on Dracula are totally fair! He is so fun to play once you fully understand his kit. Chucky still gets such gross hits with his m2 and I would go as far as saying they could prevent m2 faking altogether and he would still be crazy with it
great vid fruityskull
Thank you fruitylegion
I agree that billy belongs in the S tier, but after hte overdsrive nerf id say hes in spot 3 or 4, before the nerf the second place made sense, but as of now, you get overdrive not nearly as often and it starts decaying so fast, that he has taken a hit to his power. But honestly, it was deserved, he was just too strong
The only change Myers needs is to get rid of the stalk limit on survivors. Instead of not giving any stalk at all it should give stalk at 50% speed. IMO that’s the only thing that is wrong with Myers in DBD.
Thanks for the extensive ranking.
What exactly do people mean when categorizing plays as Micro or macro in this game?
MintSkull BASED OPINION
I miss the pre rework freddy, wish there was an option to use old freddy because it was the most fun ive had in dbd
He had insane add ons. You could use the class photo to highlight other survivors when you slept one, and the pills to keep you invisible while waiting the 7 seconds for sleep transition
Even top tier swf were forced to be on edge the entire match never knowing if freddy will stay after the 7 seconds. It was incredibly fun
Trapper best killer
W tierlist
Random video idea: Can you do a video on what you think all of the killers would say in an endgame chat?
Wesker/Chucky/Legion would probably be cocky trashtalkers, Meyers would say nothing, Unknown would type cryptic nonsense that vaguely resembles real chatting, and Plague would be a foreign language you don't understand. Singularity would analyze the perks to more efficiently kill future survivors.
Just a few ideas
1:15:03 that is because Victor IS Entity, he was resurrected/recreated by it .
You underrated Sadako
She feels strong because against the average casual player, she is an absolute stomper. But any time I play her against decent survivors on maps that do not favor me, she feels C tier. It all depends on who you play against, and with killers like Wesker or Huntress, it doesn't matter that much because their power is fundamentally strong!
@@MintSkull I have 800 matches in it and I played against a lot of teams. You just need to turn off the TVs and not let the survivors take the tapes.
@@MintSkull and she is not bad in Chase btw
@@Amjad-cv3ze she is awful in chase wtf are you on about
imma be so real we need a solo queue tier list as well because BHVR didn't really add too many options for solo queue survivors to have individual counterplay against a killers power or main playstyle
In my opinion dracula is better than spirit, because he has just a better version of her power thats unlimited and switching has basically no cooldown and he also has two additional powers that are both good, doggo being the worst but still.
babe wake up new dbd tier list dropped
Personally, I can agree with the majority of the list, but as you said with her spot, Sadako is a very contested spot.
Personally, I'd put her at the bottom of average at best. She's a stealth killer with zero stealth thanks to her lullaby giving her away with the visual terror radius. Her one chase power with pallet-stun prevention only works demanifested, and is more of a bandaid fix than anything else. Her teleport is really all she has, which can be taken away by competent survivors.
She doesnt have the same upside Wraith has when demanifested, with speed and actual stealth, and you can get her antistun on any killer by just using Enduring.
She can stomp new players, but pretty much any killer can.
She does have a few fun gimmicks you can do but overall she's just in a sad place imo...
but hey, at least she HAS an actual power, unlike Skull Merchant, who is just M1 alone now-
Also Tricster can instantly hit you after hiting his final knife and pick you up instantly before your animation of falling even finishes. That needs to be fixed
Freddy isn’t as bad as people make him to be , a good Freddy is genuinely scary to go against
I haven't seen an Artist since the Bills won the super Bowl, on top of that a few Streamers call her trash.
Hag being just decent cause only coordinated SWF... kind of disappointing.
I struggle really hard against coordinated teams that know how to play against her, especially when they step on the traps on purpose to make me waste time. Could easily be a skill issue and I admit that! But I feel more confident in winning matches against SWF with any of the killers above her. Like, give me Wraith over Hag any day!
Probably the one I disagreed with the most. I don’t go against super coordinated swfs most of the time.
Swfs do feel miserable, but she’s crazy against soloq. Wraith vs soloq still feels like a challenge, hag vs soloq feels like an auto win.
Trickster could snipe further before, and his base-kit knife TTK was faster than current main event- in which you need to unlock by hitting survivors. The primary defining factor of Tricksters ability to snipe at range is TTK as laceration decay quickly becomes a concern if the survivor has enough time to reach a strong tile, recoil did not affect the best Tricksters because tap-firing eliminated recoil as the interval between throws when tapping would circumvent the built-in recoil system allowing you to fire without recoil anyway.
The only real big benefits Trickster received was ammo efficiency and 5% movement speed when NOT using his power, all other metrics of his kit got severely nerfed (to the tune of 33% + on a lot of different scale factors.) So no, unfortunately Tricksters changes in November did not result in a net-buff, just a kit made significantly easier than previously. Main Event is worse than our old basekit, not to mention the significant nerfs to our laceration decay, 8 knife meter, and overall reduction of versatility.
Chucky is my favourite killer I can also feel how people are getting scared the f out with hideyo
Haven't played in awhile: Your game has a lot of bloom, enhanced shadows, and glowing effects-- does the game look like this now? Or is this a mod?
I literally forced myself to get adept for skull merchant cause i knew it would be impossible to do it after the nerfs came.
That Leon NEEDED that flashlight