what they need to focus on is balancing ground forces half the nations dont have proper ifv, tank destroyers etc there is important stuff other than adding new aircraft every update
Great aircraft to add overall, but i think if it gets 4 R-77, it might be added at br of 13.0, maybe 12.7 at most. But if it will get only 2 R-77 and 2 R-73 due to balancing, it would be fair if this aircraft went to 12.7
Not very usefull imo. 1v1 only dogfights happens once in 20 games at best, and all aspect thrust vectoring/high off bore sight/IRCCM missiles neglect the manoeuvrability of the aircraft itself. And don't forget thrust vecoring gives you insane AoA/instantaneous turn rate, but drains your speed almost instantly too. With the amount of monkeys flying toptier holding their S key and not knowing how to manage their energy/speed, it'll be more of a bad thing than a good thing, but in the hand of good pilot i'll be extremely broken, so a very hard to balence gimick, only present on a few planes save for prototypes.
this and the modernised mig21 should both be added to the game, as well as the modernised indian one the mig21 bison although would that be added to the uk tech tree along with the indian t90
As much as I like the Mig23, my personal favourite is the Mig21. I would like the MiG-21-93 for USSR Prem and the Indian MiG-21UPG for Britain as a Prem. I think the Mig21s just overall look better than the Mig23 imo but that's my opinion. I believe the 21-93 and UPG were both able to fire R77's anyways. It's just Mig21's on crack lol. :)
This and the mig-21-98 were failed projects the new radar’s weren’t fully compatible and they had a number of issues that caused them to cancel the modernize upgrade
Never stopped Gaijin before. They're selling a Tiger 2 with a fantasy engine for real money. And the Me262 pilots don't immediately melt the moment a bullet punctures their tanks full of high strength acids and bases.
I'm all for them adding all versions of all aircraft and utilizing folders for them. People don't complain that there's 30 versions of the Spitfire or Bf-109 because they're spread across folders, do the same with jets
@patrioticpanda7618 it's not really all that different of a topic. If gaijin utilized folders more, they could fill out jet trees with a bit more variety while not increasing the grind to keep advancing. The reason people don't complain about BR compression in props is 2 reasons: first is that the BRs are spread put enough that there's not many planes that are outright broken, and even those are tolerable to deal with. And second, there is enough variety to fill out the space between the BRs. You don't have these gaps like we do in jets where some nations have .3, .7, or even 1.0 gaps between airframes. It allows people more choice over how much of an uptier they want to deal with in a certain airframe, since most have at least 2 models save for some of the bombers and exports in smaller nations.
@@fate3071 youre doing the same thing as matt, youre trying to justify for something that is in no way needed for the game at this point, especially for the russians
@patrioticpanda7618 the changes I proposed above apply to far more than just the Russians. Sure, Russia would get alot of planes from this change, but Germany and Hungary would also benefit greatly in their jet lineups, for example. Germany having 9 different models of MiG-21, 4 models of MiG-23, and 2(3) models of MiG-29. (29A and UB, but gaijin made a pointless distinction between the GDR and Nato MiG-29)
100% gonna be rank 8 premium
This or the MiG-21-98 is going to be a premium for sure. Perfect counterpart to the F-20 if it gets 120s.
But is the engine up to par?
@@mich421 it got a modified engine from a su27?
That's what I heard
They wont add fox 3 for this
@@adamniva4251 They will, it carried Fox 3s irl, and Fox 3s are coming to the game the next update anyways
@@adamniva4251 yes they will. No reason they wouldn’t give it its historical armament.
This, the Mig-21-98 and the F4F-ICE are the most likely Rank 8 premium counterparts for the F20
I don't think that the ICE will be a Premium because it's the only option for Germany to get Fox-3's till the Eurofighter comes
@@leonsyndikus5485 hope so too but how I know Gaijin they will give the Mig-29G the r77(even when it never carried them) and make the Ice a premium
They'll likely give the premium tornado guided munitions and bump it up to rank 8@@ivanvukadin3194
ICE is now in the game and it is not premium
su39 and su25sm3 in these versions also use R77 with the radar that the su39 has
Mig-21 LanceR (Romania) for Italy
Mig-21 Bison (India) for GB
And the Mig-21-97
Still praying for mig-25 lol
I need it
what they need to focus on is balancing ground forces half the nations dont have proper ifv, tank destroyers etc there is important stuff other than adding new aircraft every update
Except air is the most popular mode so it draws in the most money
@@fate3071 i used to play air rb before but its almost unplayable now
@CROengineer how so? I play mid tier jets pretty regularly and it's fun. Most prop tiers are also a blast
Great aircraft to add overall, but i think if it gets 4 R-77, it might be added at br of 13.0, maybe 12.7 at most. But if it will get only 2 R-77 and 2 R-73 due to balancing, it would be fair if this aircraft went to 12.7
The flogger would be even more flogging
What do you think about Gaijin adding aircraft such as the Mig29ovt that have thrust vectoring?
Not very usefull imo. 1v1 only dogfights happens once in 20 games at best, and all aspect thrust vectoring/high off bore sight/IRCCM missiles neglect the manoeuvrability of the aircraft itself. And don't forget thrust vecoring gives you insane AoA/instantaneous turn rate, but drains your speed almost instantly too. With the amount of monkeys flying toptier holding their S key and not knowing how to manage their energy/speed, it'll be more of a bad thing than a good thing, but in the hand of good pilot i'll be extremely broken, so a very hard to balence gimick, only present on a few planes save for prototypes.
@@Onezmhu honestly the only reason I want thrust vectoring is to have fun in custom battles
@@snedhepsquadron406 valid asf, me too, to have fun doing Ace Combat stuff with the boys 😂
@@Onezmhu ye that or test flight
I hope this is just a 11.7 aircraft for the tech tree
Bro it has all the r27,s can fire r77 and r73 +kh29t and a load of different shit
It will be a 12.3, probably not 12.7 because of missile count and flight performance.
this and the modernised mig21 should both be added to the game, as well as the modernised indian one the mig21 bison although would that be added to the uk tech tree along with the indian t90
We need bigger maps or smaller teams.
As much as I like the Mig23, my personal favourite is the Mig21. I would like the MiG-21-93 for USSR Prem and the Indian MiG-21UPG for Britain as a Prem. I think the Mig21s just overall look better than the Mig23 imo but that's my opinion. I believe the 21-93 and UPG were both able to fire R77's anyways. It's just Mig21's on crack lol. :)
That with the improved fuel consumption is gonna go hard
This is in the same boat as the F-14D with aim9M, aim7P and Aim-120. Or if we have the F4E late with aim9L and aim7F
Solid premium tho
Why do you use the SRC mode instead of MTI?
I really want to see the mig 23 98 in game when they add fox-3,s
I wonder if they would add the SU-34
Yeah, me too
This and the mig-21-98 were failed projects the new radar’s weren’t fully compatible and they had a number of issues that caused them to cancel the modernize upgrade
Never stopped Gaijin before. They're selling a Tiger 2 with a fantasy engine for real money. And the Me262 pilots don't immediately melt the moment a bullet punctures their tanks full of high strength acids and bases.
29m 9-15 29k 9-31
seems more like reasons why you want it, and trying to justify it, rather than being needed at all
I'm all for them adding all versions of all aircraft and utilizing folders for them. People don't complain that there's 30 versions of the Spitfire or Bf-109 because they're spread across folders, do the same with jets
@@fate3071 people dont complain because the game was WAY smaller back then both in scope and player size, but also, thats entirely separate topic.
@patrioticpanda7618 it's not really all that different of a topic. If gaijin utilized folders more, they could fill out jet trees with a bit more variety while not increasing the grind to keep advancing. The reason people don't complain about BR compression in props is 2 reasons: first is that the BRs are spread put enough that there's not many planes that are outright broken, and even those are tolerable to deal with. And second, there is enough variety to fill out the space between the BRs. You don't have these gaps like we do in jets where some nations have .3, .7, or even 1.0 gaps between airframes. It allows people more choice over how much of an uptier they want to deal with in a certain airframe, since most have at least 2 models save for some of the bombers and exports in smaller nations.
@@fate3071 youre doing the same thing as matt, youre trying to justify for something that is in no way needed for the game at this point, especially for the russians
@patrioticpanda7618 the changes I proposed above apply to far more than just the Russians. Sure, Russia would get alot of planes from this change, but Germany and Hungary would also benefit greatly in their jet lineups, for example. Germany having 9 different models of MiG-21, 4 models of MiG-23, and 2(3) models of MiG-29. (29A and UB, but gaijin made a pointless distinction between the GDR and Nato MiG-29)
yuh
Pairing the least reliable aircraft and least reliable FOX 3…….
It gets a new radar so thats not a problem
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Second
What rank 8 premiums could France ever receive???
More mirage lool
More dorito
We don’t need it.