Between the Su-33 and the Mig-29K, the Su-33 is likely to come first. Mostly because the Su-33 has incredible capabilities but has been painfully neglected for upgrades in the past decades. Differences between them Su -33 Mig-29K - Carries 12 missiles instead of 10 - Carries 8 missiles instead of 6 - Has Canards for extra flight control - Capable of using the Zhuk-M/ME (PESA), and the Zhuk-A/AE (AESA) radar, though none were ever equipped with it. - Not capable of using Fox-3 Missiles - Capable of carrying up to 8 R-77/R-77-1 missiles - Capable of using ECM pods on the Wingtips - Unknown if it can use ECM - Has strong IRST tracking - Has strong IRST Tracking - Unknown if if can use external fuel tanks - Can use multiple external fuel tanks (at the expense of missiles carried) - Can carry up to 8 R-27 Missiles (only 2 ETs) - Can Carry up to 4 R-27 Missiles - Su-33 uses the outdated N0001 Radar - Mig-29K uses the Zhuk-M/ME radar which is way better than the Su-33s radar - Upgraded ballistics computers for unguided - Can use a wide variety of Air to Air, Air to Ground, and Anti-Ship missiles due to it's radar and FCS Munitions
@EriIaz Considering that the Su-33 is still in service I don't see the point of pointing out the 9-41 was ordered as a replacement for the Su-33. Also I'm talking about the the 9-41, considering the 9-31was abandoned in the early 90s and if I remember correctly was not able to use fox-3 missiles, considering the R-77 didn't enter service til 94. And was never put into service. There's not a whole lot of difference between the K and the KR as the KR is just the Indian exported variant with all the Indian requested avionics replaced with Russian avionics. I can't find anything that clearly states any difference between them so as far as I'm concerned they're ultimately the same thing. It is possible Gaijin will choose to add the 9-31 version considering its an earlier and less capable variant, but considering Gaijin likes to focus on production variants first, the 9-31 is more likely to become a premium or event vehicle considering it is the vastly less capable variant.
@@Shadoweye12 the opposite is true. R stands for "Российский". The original MiG-29K 9-31 was a mere prototype which lost the competition to Su-33, so the name didn't stick. But even though Russian MOD didn't show any interest in the MiG bureau aircraft at the time, they decided to continue this project, developed it into 9-41 and tried their luck on the international market, where they managed to strike a deal with the Indian Navy. It was upgraded to support a wider selection of weapons as per Indian request for a multirole carrier aircraft. In the meantime, Su-33 turned out to be problematic: it is very heavy and underpowered for relatively small Admiral Kuznetsov without a catapult, and as a result Su-33 had to take off with a tiny fraction of maximum combat load and couldn't utilize much bigger internal fuel capacity for combat air patrol or CAS standby. So the Russian Navy noticed that Indian MiG-29K, and decided to try it as well. That's what MiG-29KR is: a MiG-29K without foreign components, but supporting modern Russian air-to-air and air-to-surface weaponry. And when the Russian Navy got involved in the Syrian war, the 29KR it was quickly confirmed to be a much better option than Su-33 for the Admiral Kuznetsov as a platform. Sure, the Su-33 can carry more weapons and fuel on paper when taking off from land. Problem is, the only way to utilize that advantage is to have a freaking tanker circling above the carrier. At this point, you might as well use it from a land base, and at that point you don't need an Su-33 at all. It's not a bad aircraft, it could be much better on a super carrier, but Russia doesn't have one. In practice, MiG-29KR carries more weapons than Su-33 when it takes off from Kuznetsov. Also, since Su-33's engines already are pushed to their limits, it's unlikely to expect any significant gains to solve this issue. And if we consider an unlikely scenario of Russia building a super carrier, we might as well navalize the Su-57 to fulfill that role, because all naval air groups are very limited in numbers, so they have to compensate for that with quality. That's why nobody bothers with Su-33 upgrades. MiG-29KR, on the other hand, is closely unified with MiG-35. But you don't hear about all that a lot because Admiral Kuznetsov is stuck in a drydock and it's only planned to end the modernization this year. And no, it's not going to get a catapult.
@Shadoweye12 the opposite is true. R stands for "Российский". The original MiG-29K 9-31 was a mere prototype which lost the competition to Su-33, so the name didn't stick. But even though Russian MOD didn't show any interest in the MiG bureau aircraft at the time, the bureau decided to continue this project, developed it into 9-41 and tried their luck on the international market, where they managed to strike a deal with the Indian Navy. It was upgraded to support a wider selection of weapons as per Indian request for a multirole carrier aircraft. In the meantime, Su-33 turned out to be problematic: it is very heavy and underpowered for relatively small Admiral Kuznetsov without a catapult, and as a result Su-33 had to take off with a tiny fraction of maximum combat load and couldn't utilize much bigger internal fuel capacity for combat air patrol or CAS standby. So the Russian Navy noticed that Indian MiG-29K, and decided to try it as well. That's what MiG-29KR 9-41R is: a MiG-29K 9-41 without foreign components, but supporting modern Russian air-to-air and air-to-surface weaponry. And when the Russian Navy got involved in the Syrian war, the 29KR was quickly confirmed to be a much better option than Su-33 for the Admiral Kuznetsov as a platform. Sure, the Su-33 can carry more weapons and fuel on paper when taking off from land. Problem is, the only way to utilize it is to have a freaking tanked circling above the carrier. It can carry more, but only when it takes off from land. The engines of Su-33 already are pushed to their limits, and Russia isn't building a bigger carrier, so nobody bothers with substantial Su-33 modernisations. Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad aircraft, it could be great on a super carrier with a steam catapult, but Russia simply doesn't have one. MiG-29KR, on the other hand, carries much more when it takes off from the deck and it's closely unified with MiG-35, so the upgrades are easy. But hey. It doesn't matter, Kuznetsov still stays on modernisation and isn't operational yet. All we know for sure is that it isn't going to get a catapult, so yeah. MiG-29KR replaces Su-33.
This MiG-29K mentioned in the video (and the only to be in service) is a 2010s variant, not the MiG-29K (yes, same designation) from the 1990s that was tested alongside the Su-27K. This earlier one never got past the testing phase. The later MiG-29K (9.41) is much newer (analogue to a Su-27SM) and was first used in combat in Syria in 2016 So I don’t thing the MiG-29 is the better option, unless they wanna add the 90s prototype that changes nothing when compared to the existing MiG-29 (9.13)
Su-27SM is just an Su-27, its the same, except for some better avionics, and possibly a better R-77-M1, which wouldnt be added, since we dont even have the regular R-77
@@alexnovak3319 sm gets the better rwr , slightly better radar ( slightly worse or similar to yak 141 radar) and it can carry r77s and can get 196 flares.
@@yuanfurbaxin BVR the flanker currently wins, it’s better then the F-15 that’s for sure, and in a dogfight it depends what your fighting and for example I slap gripens in dogfights like any competent flanker pilot
Before the repair, the Su-33 had the first version of the L-150 spo. After the repair in 2013, it was replaced with the modern l-150 SPO. And after that it could carry the x-31a, x-31p and r-77 (but fire at only one target since the radar was not modified), in addition to the x-41 (it is also p-270 mosquito) and p-800. But these missiles were not used because of their uselessness in those operations in which the Su-33 were used, and because the aviation regiment in which they were located is supplied on an almost residual basis.
the mig-21-93 could be interesting, it's a more advanced mig21 with R-27R1/T1 and R73s, 2,228 km/h was it's top speed, would be an interesting addition/
@@hagridflower2907 Tu-22M is doubtful if it will ever gonna come. It doesn't fit the game at the moment (same with the MiG-25P). This is totally a Gaijin problem tho, the game desperately needs new and dynamic gamemodes. But the MiG-31 they have no excuses to not add it, unlike the MiG-25, it has a gun and can be playable. But in the current WT it'll be dead on arrival, just high tier F-104 in terms of flight characteristics
@@alexnovak3319nah the mig 29K is better it’s more modernized and got very good air to ground capabilities so not only is it good in the air u can get smoke some tanks with it too
This MiG-29K mentioned in the video (and the only to be in service) is a 2010s variant, not the MiG-29K (yes, same designation) from the 1990s that was tested alongside the Su-27K. This earlier one never got past the testing phase. The later MiG-29K (9.41) is much newer (analogue to a Su-27SM) and was first used in combat in Syria in 2016 So I don’t thing the MiG-29 is the better option, unless they wanna add the 90s prototype that changes nothing when compared to the existing MiG-29 (9.13)
Dude the Su-33 would make sense releasing with the hornet, the Su-27PU (Su-30) would make the most sense right now releasing with the F-15C, just look at previous updates it’s not that hard to see this makes the most sense.
If you think this is true, how would the MIG-29 K Be implemented Because you have to think about what it would be going up against because I personally think it would be added alongside the F-14D or some F-16 variant but that’s the problem there is no naval F-16(that I know of besides Japanese F-2)
@@BerInferno There actually is a naval F-16 that the navy still uses to this day as an aggressor just look up the F-16N. Although it’s not as upgraded as something like a MiG-29K (if we’re talking about newer upgrades of it). A better fit to release with the Su-33 would be the legacy Hornet, then next update adding the upgraded MiG-29K with the super hornet. With all this being said though aircraft don’t have to release in pairs take the YAK-141 for example or the J-8F.
@@Kryoic true but It does upset power balance if there not in pairs bc America mains would be very angry unless there is a counter part to it although I think the 14D might work if it’s not OP
I think what we need first before we get new naval fighters are new aircraft carriers. Cuz let's be honest, there's no way either one of those jets can take off and land on the Baku. Not only that, but France could use some carriers of its own, given that it operated a fine carrier fleet during the Cold War, and they've already got some naval aircraft. Then there's also the issue of naval assets being added to new and existing maps to make room for the carriers
whats most likely gonna happen is there gonna add the F14D during the summer time like they added the F14A 2 years ago and the F14B 1 year ago and then with the last update of the year they will add the F/A-18 alongside the Su-33/Rafale/andEurofighter. that's what I assume will happen as for the last 2 years they've done that. also will probably see some form of new flanker come to the game just to combat the F14D or maybe even adding the Su33 vs F14D and then maybe add the Su-30 at the last update of the year.
The Su-33 is not really that comparable to the Eurofighter, the Su-33 has been very neglected when it comes to upgrades. Despite being newer than the early production Su-27 that we currently have, it has the same radar as the early Su-27, and has had spotty avionic upgrades but cannot use guided air to ground munitions, at least not that I know of. and with such an old radar the Su-33 cannot use Fox-3 missiles, or if it can, then it definitely cannot use them to their fullest potential. For a proper comparison to the Eurofighter you'd likely be looking at least the Su-27SM but that's likely to come with the F-15C, we're more likely the Su-30SM, or the Su-27SM2 or SM3
We’re not even in May yet, can we just like…stop worrying about aircrafts and tanks that MIGHT come while being a while down the road?? I’ve finally reached the point recently to where it’s “I’ll find out what’s in the game when the update comes. Who cares…” a while ago and it feels great to not care.
they definitely need a newer mig29 atleast the mig29m (which is older than the modern smt we have in game) , smt has trash flight performance , it bleeds speed like a mig21 , with fox3s around the corner , not only will the smt be the worst fighter with a fox3 but it will also bleed speed like crazy , just by notching u go from mach 1+ to mach 0.8
Not sure these additions would make much of a difference. I would prefer to see the flight models of the MiG-29 and the Su-27 improved instead as well as a long needed revamp to top tier air rb.
I think that with r27er/et they will definitely be overpowered with proper flight models. With the addition of fox3s the weapon side would be equalized and I'd like to see proper flight models returned
@@Boris_The_Turtle IMHO the only thing they need is to remove r27er/et from soviet planes. R27r/t vs aim7m is a pretty equal fight anyway. But the snail couldn't code a working r73 when they were adding mig29, so they had to balance it with 27er, so they had to add them to every soviet plane that came after the first mig 29, and here we are
@@spongegobler3449the f4f ice better not be an event vehicle it’s one of the few native products/upgrades we can get besides the typhoon and tornado upgrades
@@joshharris2793 NO the f4f ice would be complete and utter doghshit. You really want a phantom at a highest br fighting against flankers and f15s just because you can carry an amraam? No thanks id take a subtree f18
No thanks, I don’t want to grind for another r27er brick. I rather grind for the grippen or f16. Which can dogfight . In sim, top tiers is literally deck hugging, grippen+f16+. Aim9m spam
india only got more modern vehicles, around 2000 and later, (9-41), it would have been too modern, while the 9-31 would not have introduced anything too modern, but would have carried p-77, a total of 8 missiles, and would have been better in any kind of maneuver combat than the 9-13 and 9-17, not sure about the 9-12.
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Between the Su-33 and the Mig-29K, the Su-33 is likely to come first.
Mostly because the Su-33 has incredible capabilities but has been painfully neglected for upgrades in the past decades.
Differences between them
Su -33 Mig-29K
- Carries 12 missiles instead of 10 - Carries 8 missiles instead of 6
- Has Canards for extra flight control - Capable of using the Zhuk-M/ME (PESA), and the Zhuk-A/AE (AESA) radar, though none were ever equipped with it.
- Not capable of using Fox-3 Missiles - Capable of carrying up to 8 R-77/R-77-1 missiles
- Capable of using ECM pods on the Wingtips - Unknown if it can use ECM
- Has strong IRST tracking - Has strong IRST Tracking
- Unknown if if can use external fuel tanks - Can use multiple external fuel tanks (at the expense of missiles carried)
- Can carry up to 8 R-27 Missiles (only 2 ETs) - Can Carry up to 4 R-27 Missiles
- Su-33 uses the outdated N0001 Radar - Mig-29K uses the Zhuk-M/ME radar which is way better than the Su-33s radar
- Upgraded ballistics computers for unguided - Can use a wide variety of Air to Air, Air to Ground, and Anti-Ship missiles due to it's radar and FCS
Munitions
SU-33 also uses L150 RWR so a upgrade over SPO-15 (which it never used, it spent the first 3-4 years without any RWR).
What MiG-29K are you taking about? 9-31 from the early 90's, the modernized 9-41 or MiG-29KR 9-41R? The latter actually replaced Su-33, you know...
@EriIaz
Considering that the Su-33 is still in service I don't see the point of pointing out the 9-41 was ordered as a replacement for the Su-33.
Also I'm talking about the the 9-41, considering the 9-31was abandoned in the early 90s and if I remember correctly was not able to use fox-3 missiles, considering the R-77 didn't enter service til 94. And was never put into service.
There's not a whole lot of difference between the K and the KR as the KR is just the Indian exported variant with all the Indian requested avionics replaced with Russian avionics. I can't find anything that clearly states any difference between them so as far as I'm concerned they're ultimately the same thing.
It is possible Gaijin will choose to add the 9-31 version considering its an earlier and less capable variant, but considering Gaijin likes to focus on production variants first, the 9-31 is more likely to become a premium or event vehicle considering it is the vastly less capable variant.
@@Shadoweye12 the opposite is true. R stands for "Российский".
The original MiG-29K 9-31 was a mere prototype which lost the competition to Su-33, so the name didn't stick.
But even though Russian MOD didn't show any interest in the MiG bureau aircraft at the time, they decided to continue this project, developed it into 9-41 and tried their luck on the international market, where they managed to strike a deal with the Indian Navy. It was upgraded to support a wider selection of weapons as per Indian request for a multirole carrier aircraft.
In the meantime, Su-33 turned out to be problematic: it is very heavy and underpowered for relatively small Admiral Kuznetsov without a catapult, and as a result Su-33 had to take off with a tiny fraction of maximum combat load and couldn't utilize much bigger internal fuel capacity for combat air patrol or CAS standby. So the Russian Navy noticed that Indian MiG-29K, and decided to try it as well. That's what MiG-29KR is: a MiG-29K without foreign components, but supporting modern Russian air-to-air and air-to-surface weaponry.
And when the Russian Navy got involved in the Syrian war, the 29KR it was quickly confirmed to be a much better option than Su-33 for the Admiral Kuznetsov as a platform. Sure, the Su-33 can carry more weapons and fuel on paper when taking off from land. Problem is, the only way to utilize that advantage is to have a freaking tanker circling above the carrier. At this point, you might as well use it from a land base, and at that point you don't need an Su-33 at all. It's not a bad aircraft, it could be much better on a super carrier, but Russia doesn't have one. In practice, MiG-29KR carries more weapons than Su-33 when it takes off from Kuznetsov.
Also, since Su-33's engines already are pushed to their limits, it's unlikely to expect any significant gains to solve this issue. And if we consider an unlikely scenario of Russia building a super carrier, we might as well navalize the Su-57 to fulfill that role, because all naval air groups are very limited in numbers, so they have to compensate for that with quality. That's why nobody bothers with Su-33 upgrades. MiG-29KR, on the other hand, is closely unified with MiG-35.
But you don't hear about all that a lot because Admiral Kuznetsov is stuck in a drydock and it's only planned to end the modernization this year. And no, it's not going to get a catapult.
@Shadoweye12 the opposite is true. R stands for "Российский".
The original MiG-29K 9-31 was a mere prototype which lost the competition to Su-33, so the name didn't stick.
But even though Russian MOD didn't show any interest in the MiG bureau aircraft at the time, the bureau decided to continue this project, developed it into 9-41 and tried their luck on the international market, where they managed to strike a deal with the Indian Navy. It was upgraded to support a wider selection of weapons as per Indian request for a multirole carrier aircraft.
In the meantime, Su-33 turned out to be problematic: it is very heavy and underpowered for relatively small Admiral Kuznetsov without a catapult, and as a result Su-33 had to take off with a tiny fraction of maximum combat load and couldn't utilize much bigger internal fuel capacity for combat air patrol or CAS standby. So the Russian Navy noticed that Indian MiG-29K, and decided to try it as well. That's what MiG-29KR 9-41R is: a MiG-29K 9-41 without foreign components, but supporting modern Russian air-to-air and air-to-surface weaponry.
And when the Russian Navy got involved in the Syrian war, the 29KR was quickly confirmed to be a much better option than Su-33 for the Admiral Kuznetsov as a platform. Sure, the Su-33 can carry more weapons and fuel on paper when taking off from land. Problem is, the only way to utilize it is to have a freaking tanked circling above the carrier. It can carry more, but only when it takes off from land. The engines of Su-33 already are pushed to their limits, and Russia isn't building a bigger carrier, so nobody bothers with substantial Su-33 modernisations. Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad aircraft, it could be great on a super carrier with a steam catapult, but Russia simply doesn't have one. MiG-29KR, on the other hand, carries much more when it takes off from the deck and it's closely unified with MiG-35, so the upgrades are easy.
But hey. It doesn't matter, Kuznetsov still stays on modernisation and isn't operational yet. All we know for sure is that it isn't going to get a catapult, so yeah. MiG-29KR replaces Su-33.
This MiG-29K mentioned in the video (and the only to be in service) is a 2010s variant, not the MiG-29K (yes, same designation) from the 1990s that was tested alongside the Su-27K. This earlier one never got past the testing phase. The later MiG-29K (9.41) is much newer (analogue to a Su-27SM) and was first used in combat in Syria in 2016
So I don’t thing the MiG-29 is the better option, unless they wanna add the 90s prototype that changes nothing when compared to the existing MiG-29 (9.13)
I want the Su-27SM for now
and later Su-30SM, i love the thrust vectoring and the canards are such a great combo
Su-27SM is just an Su-27, its the same, except for some better avionics, and possibly a better R-77-M1, which wouldnt be added, since we dont even have the regular R-77
Su 30SM... is Su 27, which is already best in the game, but better dogfighter and can carry 12 R77...
@@alexnovak3319 sm gets the better rwr , slightly better radar ( slightly worse or similar to yak 141 radar) and it can carry r77s and can get 196 flares.
@@Niko_rj wrong Su-27 isn't the best, Dogfight Mirage 4000
overal grippen
br f15
@@yuanfurbaxin BVR the flanker currently wins, it’s better then the F-15 that’s for sure, and in a dogfight it depends what your fighting and for example I slap gripens in dogfights like any competent flanker pilot
They should give the Su27 its real flight Performance lol
They should give everything their real flight performance
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@@ThePrimordialArchon real
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Before the repair, the Su-33 had the first version of the L-150 spo. After the repair in 2013, it was replaced with the modern l-150 SPO. And after that it could carry the x-31a, x-31p and r-77 (but fire at only one target since the radar was not modified), in addition to the x-41 (it is also p-270 mosquito) and p-800. But these missiles were not used because of their uselessness in those operations in which the Su-33 were used, and because the aviation regiment in which they were located is supplied on an almost residual basis.
the mig-21-93 could be interesting, it's a more advanced mig21 with R-27R1/T1 and R73s, 2,228 km/h was it's top speed, would be an interesting addition/
SU-34, russian tech tree doesn't have enough fighter bombers at top tier
he’s talking about the navy line. I could see that coming after mig-27
@@bambotronnSu-24, Su-24M, Su-24M2… all should coming before a Su-34
@@IllustriousUnknown416 Agreed
@@IllustriousUnknown416I'd like to see Tu22M somewhere. Also Mig-31 (possibly after 29, or 29 SMT)
@@hagridflower2907 Tu-22M is doubtful if it will ever gonna come. It doesn't fit the game at the moment (same with the MiG-25P). This is totally a Gaijin problem tho, the game desperately needs new and dynamic gamemodes. But the MiG-31 they have no excuses to not add it, unlike the MiG-25, it has a gun and can be playable. But in the current WT it'll be dead on arrival, just high tier F-104 in terms of flight characteristics
The MiG-29K would be better for now
fuck the fulcrum, flanker is better lol
@@alexnovak3319 both are sick
@@alexnovak3319 yes but i said for now
@@alexnovak3319nah the mig 29K is better it’s more modernized and got very good air to ground capabilities so not only is it good in the air u can get smoke some tanks with it too
This MiG-29K mentioned in the video (and the only to be in service) is a 2010s variant, not the MiG-29K (yes, same designation) from the 1990s that was tested alongside the Su-27K. This earlier one never got past the testing phase. The later MiG-29K (9.41) is much newer (analogue to a Su-27SM) and was first used in combat in Syria in 2016
So I don’t thing the MiG-29 is the better option, unless they wanna add the 90s prototype that changes nothing when compared to the existing MiG-29 (9.13)
Dude the Su-33 would make sense releasing with the hornet, the Su-27PU (Su-30) would make the most sense right now releasing with the F-15C, just look at previous updates it’s not that hard to see this makes the most sense.
If you think this is true, how would the MIG-29 K Be implemented Because you have to think about what it would be going up against because I personally think it would be added alongside the F-14D or some F-16 variant but that’s the problem there is no naval F-16(that I know of besides Japanese F-2)
@@BerInferno There actually is a naval F-16 that the navy still uses to this day as an aggressor just look up the F-16N. Although it’s not as upgraded as something like a MiG-29K (if we’re talking about newer upgrades of it). A better fit to release with the Su-33 would be the legacy Hornet, then next update adding the upgraded MiG-29K with the super hornet. With all this being said though aircraft don’t have to release in pairs take the YAK-141 for example or the J-8F.
@@Kryoic true but It does upset power balance if there not in pairs bc America mains would be very angry unless there is a counter part to it although I think the 14D might work if it’s not OP
Power balance needs to be upset in order to add new things. @@BerInferno
@@Kryoic trust me it’s not worth it too upset Soviet mains or U.S mains
I think what we need first before we get new naval fighters are new aircraft carriers. Cuz let's be honest, there's no way either one of those jets can take off and land on the Baku.
Not only that, but France could use some carriers of its own, given that it operated a fine carrier fleet during the Cold War, and they've already got some naval aircraft. Then there's also the issue of naval assets being added to new and existing maps to make room for the carriers
Or or or hear me out the su 47
I wouldn’t call two extra pylons on top of the plane that already carries the most of the best large missiles a minor thing 😂.
whats most likely gonna happen is there gonna add the F14D during the summer time like they added the F14A 2 years ago and the F14B 1 year ago and then with the last update of the year they will add the F/A-18 alongside the Su-33/Rafale/andEurofighter. that's what I assume will happen as for the last 2 years they've done that. also will probably see some form of new flanker come to the game just to combat the F14D or maybe even adding the Su33 vs F14D and then maybe add the Su-30 at the last update of the year.
The Su-33 is not really that comparable to the Eurofighter, the Su-33 has been very neglected when it comes to upgrades. Despite being newer than the early production Su-27 that we currently have, it has the same radar as the early Su-27, and has had spotty avionic upgrades but cannot use guided air to ground munitions, at least not that I know of. and with such an old radar the Su-33 cannot use Fox-3 missiles, or if it can, then it definitely cannot use them to their fullest potential.
For a proper comparison to the Eurofighter you'd likely be looking at least the Su-27SM but that's likely to come with the F-15C, we're more likely the Su-30SM, or the Su-27SM2 or SM3
I honestly don’t think we need any more top tier naval jets until we have more naval maps that can facilitate the newer carriers
We’re not even in May yet, can we just like…stop worrying about aircrafts and tanks that MIGHT come while being a while down the road?? I’ve finally reached the point recently to where it’s “I’ll find out what’s in the game when the update comes. Who cares…” a while ago and it feels great to not care.
If they add su33, they gotta add the hornet in the american tech tree as well. Been holding out hope that theyll add it.
TAKE A BREAK
Money, money, money... He talks for nothing and makes empty videos.... It's just for the algorithm
i saw the yak-141 for the first time since its release in a ground rb match today, felt strange
We Japan mains need a vehicle who's named starts with F and ends with my grade in Chemistry. 2. F2
Not for a while you don’t
Japan is a nation?
Never heard of japan
Hey,
Which premium jet do you recommend for grinding the russiam tech tree? Cool video btw, i hope the Su33 will be added
MiG-23ML
Wait for sale tho
Omg the su 33 would be so cool
The option is getting aircraft carriers on top tier maps.
Id do anything to get the su-33 in game right now
Maybe add something for germany that can fire fox3 before
The correct answer is they dont need any aditions
Aircraft variety is still a nice feature. I just hope the Fox 3s are balanced...
Buttt the US gets 3 lines of 4th gen fighters? F14 F16 and F15?
they definitely need a newer mig29 atleast the mig29m (which is older than the modern smt we have in game) , smt has trash flight performance , it bleeds speed like a mig21 , with fox3s around the corner , not only will the smt be the worst fighter with a fox3 but it will also bleed speed like crazy , just by notching u go from mach 1+ to mach 0.8
I need, niqqa
@@danehampe2972 so does russia?
MiG-29K would come first, it would fit the line better and pave way for the modern Su 33. And people wont complain
Kids: I WANT THE LATEST JET! F22 AND SU57!
Men: I want new props 🚬🗿
WW1 shit
props are boring cope
How many props are we missing? I don't play them but I respect them being there
Mig 31 would be a w aircraft
Wanted to ask, is it normal to not be able to lock su-27 with f16c in tws mode in sim battles? I can't acquire soft lock i mean
Just get better American main
Not sure these additions would make much of a difference. I would prefer to see the flight models of the MiG-29 and the Su-27 improved instead as well as a long needed revamp to top tier air rb.
I think that with r27er/et they will definitely be overpowered with proper flight models. With the addition of fox3s the weapon side would be equalized and I'd like to see proper flight models returned
@@ВячеславФролов-д7я true, but honestly I would rather see them tone down the weapons instead of messing with the flight model itself.
@@Boris_The_Turtle IMHO the only thing they need is to remove r27er/et from soviet planes. R27r/t vs aim7m is a pretty equal fight anyway.
But the snail couldn't code a working r73 when they were adding mig29, so they had to balance it with 27er, so they had to add them to every soviet plane that came after the first mig 29, and here we are
What about the su24 flogger and MiG 25 foxbat
*Su-24 Fencer
i think they should add the mig 31 tammar not today
I wonder what's next for Germany tbh
I’m hoping the F4ICE can be an event vehicle, but when the update launches we get a polish F-16 or Finnish F-18 if the F-18’s are added
@@spongegobler3449 Sweden would be more likely to get the Finnish F-18
Nothing niqqa
@@spongegobler3449the f4f ice better not be an event vehicle it’s one of the few native products/upgrades we can get besides the typhoon and tornado upgrades
@@joshharris2793 NO the f4f ice would be complete and utter doghshit. You really want a phantom at a highest br fighting against flankers and f15s just because you can carry an amraam? No thanks id take a subtree f18
Hey I need help how do you view radar guided missles 4:51
press u its for ir missiles as well
Where tf is the amraam? I dont see it on the live server..
summer update
I'd like to see all.
MIG-29X another mig or new su-33 idk
Another MiG would be cool, then after they can focus on Sukhoi
The K would be an interesting Hornet counter.
Su>>>mig
despite the mig 29k and the mig 35 they are the only ones in the fulcrum family that are good
No thanks, I don’t want to grind for another r27er brick.
I rather grind for the grippen or f16. Which can dogfight .
In sim, top tiers is literally deck hugging, grippen+f16+. Aim9m spam
Su-33/J-15
soviet line doesnt need anything else su27 is op af
let me guess you are 0 -104 in the f-15
Watch them give the mig 29K to GB (India)
india only got more modern vehicles, around 2000 and later, (9-41), it would have been too modern, while the 9-31 would not have introduced anything too modern, but would have carried p-77, a total of 8 missiles, and would have been better in any kind of maneuver combat than the 9-13 and 9-17, not sure about the 9-12.
su 25 and su 21
SU33
Hellooo
F18
First
Please stop
Last
What about the su24 flogger and MiG 25 foxbat
Su-24 NATO designation is Fencer. Floggers are MiG-23/27s