Wasn't the biggest fan of Lloyd in his playing days, mostly because he always seemed to kick bags of goals against the Hawks, and I won't even mention Brad Sewell, but I always respected him because of how great of a player he was. He is VERY knowledgeable when it comes to our great game. Good on him for firing back here. Much respect for a legend of the game.
I agree. Last year he suggested a one off super season played over 2020/21 with 17 games last year and 17 games this year + finals and he was mocked by a few people for that idea. Seeing Covid is still ongoing it might have made things a lot easier for fixturing. He is like Cameron Ling, they both love their clubs but when it comes to commenting on the game they put away their club loyalties. I have seen no Essendon bias from him whatsoever. Wilson is only doing this because she is nervous she might not see her beloved Tigers playing finals. I don't know why Lloyd sticks around with this mob. He is one of the better footy analysts going around.
Honestly has never come across as a "journo" through his time at nine. Always seems to have a level head on his shoulders and doesn't "go after" anyone. We need more people like him on the panels. Not pot stirrers, making more drama for ratings.
I agree with Lloydy...he's trying to keep it low key...we've played out of our skins this year when most had us bottom 4...with a young squad you don't want that to be the thing you're focusing on...it's about cups and sustained excellence...by all means enjoy the wins and if we get there, the experience of a finals series but maintain the hunger...it's not negative to think we're not winning it this year, it's realistic...missing out on finals might be just the thing to keep them fired up...make it or not I'm super proud of the boys...they look to be building something special...
@@andrewrogers5962 we were picked by some to finish as low as 18th and bottom 4 for most, and the fact is that we r in a pretty good spot to finish 8th or even 7th if things go our way, so yeh id say we had played out of skins considering the list and the development of players. For example if u said a the end of last season that darcy parish would finish potentially in the top 5 of the brownlow u would have said ur insane. So massive development for an extremely young team.
Can't think of a player I hated more but respect as much as a commentator and good guy as Lloyd. Shows how bias for your team affects your judgement (Hawks fan). He was proven to be right as well, whether the club got ahead of itself or not, the Bombers have definitely declined big time this year and last year is looking like more of an aberration than natural progress.
I reckon these journos sometimes forget they're sitting with one of the greatest forwards of all time. Not an Essendon fan but Matthew Lloyd has forgotten more football than these journos will ever know.
Caro was being pretty condescending there. Instead of building her own counter argument with evidence or insight, she essentially just belittled his opinion. Fair call out from Lloydy.
I am a Carlton supporter. I hated Lloyd as a player, for obvious reasons. However, he is my number one go to commentator. He doesn't lie. He knows where players are at. Always gives honest feedback. I don't mind Kane either, but does get it wrong at times. Roos is very good, too. Everyone else is very ordinary.
He played in our last winning grand final with some of our finest players, then played in a losing grand final with the same players. He played in the greatest comeback win. He was apart of our last winning and losing finals team in 04. He then became our captain. Broke his leg. Copped criticism. Retired then 2 or 3 years later had to watch our club go through utter turmoil. Watched one of his best mates nearly neck himself because of it. Watched special players leave. He's seen, done, watched and bitten his tongue long enough. He is right in every aspect, if we set ourselves up with unrealistic expectations then if we don't reach it we have greater disappointment which may lead us further away from our end goal. Caro hasn't liked the club since 2012. She does have good points but at times she goes too far. When people do it to her she doesn't want to hear it so well done lloydy for standing up for himself about time someone did.
Lloydy! She does, every second she gets to talk her precious tigers up, then has the sooks on when she tries to humiliate Lloydy and he makes look like the fool she is. Great stuff.
Well done Lloydy!! Called out Caro for her hypocrisy. Stuck to his guns even when she demeaned his feelings on her attitude towards him and then she had a go at Hutchy for backing Lloyd up.
Lloyd is 100% right. Brisbane 2009. Surprised made finals. Did well in the finals. We backed the team too much and traded key players, didn’t make finals for 10 years. (Yes the Suns expansion taking some Ket lions players didn’t help) but the point still remains false positive finals births aren’t ideal
Lloyd knows bombers aren't ready this years finals campaign but quietly confident bombers will be top 4 next season . Club's back as powerhouse club again there's a buzz around team .
Caro always trying to be the alpha in the room and then rightfully so gets challenged for being disrespectful. Then she will cry boy club misogyny to Karen on twitter.
Once again the difference between players and non players is clearly on display. Non playing analysts will never truly understand a true football mentality. Get rid of them.
Yes she may think Lloydy is being biased because he played for Essendon but we all know hes way past hes glory days and now talks in realism about eveyteam no matter what circumstances. Good on Lloyd for sticking up for himself
As an Essendon supporter, we never had high hopes this year, we expected to finish bottom 4, so the fact that we've done as well as we have is great, if we make the finals, absolutely fantastic! if we dont, we've had a great year as is, so as usual Caro is wrong and well done Lloydy for not backing down, he knows what the go is
This woman is “always right”🙄 and always offended and will never concede squat. Get her off. She is so far left I’m surprised she doesn’t walk in circles.
"I think he's being too conservative & his red & black slipper's showing". Yep, that's an objectively sarcastic comment. I'm a swans fan & I wouldn't be happy with a comment like that if she was speaking to an ex swans player.
If she's doing it on purpose, she's playing the heel to perfection, there's nothing to like about Caro at all. Christ, I hated Lloyd when he was playing, im now a fan of him because of how garbage Caro is.
I’ve never seen Lloyd angry like this. I think he was being overly negative about the ESS players and projecting. They may not get ahead of themselves.
Why is Caro allowed to act like such a child and still be given a voice? Lloydy did the right thing and I hope more people call her out for being such a cow so often. Cornes does almost exactly the same thing, he’s just a little less personally belittling to people.
Lloydy is one of the best in the business and shows passion and professionalism all the time, dont understand why so many hate him. and Caro IS the worst should be gone (not Essendon fan)
Yeah, just like how she was wrong about predicting that this would be Alistair Clarkson’s last year at the Hawks. I am not a fan of Caro and I thought that Loyd was the bigger person in this exchange, but what you have commented makes no sense
On reputation and past form, this WC fan would place them 3rd on that list behind Bulldogs (Honestly, Bulldogs and Demons are a coinflip). On 2020 form alone, they probably don't belong on this list.
@@toddgunther8272 reputation and past form is irrelevant they've folded this year in ways I haven't seen from North Melbourne let alone a supposed top 8 team
Caro suggesting someone is being negative and then getting defensive? No one dwells on the negative more than she does and whenever questioned she gets very defensive and usually calls on the gender card.
Every Bombers fan I've spoken to has said pretty much exactly what Lloyd is saying here. We would actually prefer to miss finals this year and build on it than make them and get humiliated in the first round and think we are better than what we are. We've had a very nice draw this year but haven't really beaten any top club other than the Bulldogs and a very up and down West Coast. We've seen enough first round finals losses in the last 15 years. Falling into 8th spot might be good for the club but it might be damaging to the team
As a Bombers fan, this season has been a complete bonus. Certainly didn't expect us to be winning many games. Next year or the year after, I expect us to be seriously in finals contention.
I like both of them here. I think Caro is right in that Lloydy as a baked on Essendon fan can be a tad pessimistic at times - but I also agree with Lloydy that where we finish this year is largely inconsequential. It probably didn't need to get as heated as it did, but it's good tele!
Everybody's always bagging out Caro, regardless of the topic. I for one, as a bomber supporter wouldn't mind getting a bit excited at the prospect of making finals. Been a while between drinks. Don't forget Llordo, you were also publicly bagging out Rutten's game plan and style of play.
Me as well... can’t believe I’m saying this. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter in the slightest if we make finals or not we have done enough as a new group this year.
Lloyd is no Tim Watson…he is markedly more objective and often highly critical of Essendon, the club he dearly loves and is an all time legend of. So when he says the team is not ready for finals he is genuinely arguing on facts and evidence and not some coy attempt at playing things down. He is of course right. Essendon will only get dismantled in an elimination final and therefore continue their humiliation record of finals failures over the last 17 years. 2022…well that’s an altogether different proposition.
Everyone bashing caro again. Why??😂 She is always right in the end. Essendon need the be aggressive. A rebuild era is very lovely in theory but the windows are tiny and it'll pass them by again and again unless they are serious about a flag every moment. They have the list. Lloyd played in a baby bombers side!! He should know better than anyone. Anyway carn pear
As a one eyed bomber supporter. I love Lloydy. But I respect the way he goes about his independence from the club even more. He wouldn’t have made himself into a respected media personality without separating himself from the love of Essendon. Caro just nitpicking as usual. Get her off the Tv and bring someone in who people will actually respect and enjoy listening too. Every time she opens her mouth I cringe.
I think Smithy has been banged up this year, his last 3 weeks I think has been good as far as effort is concerned he just hasn’t been the tackling machine he was when he first came over. Shiel has played well the last two his first week back against the giants was a shocker but he was coming back from injury. When pidge comes back maybe flick Cox up forward and McGrath on the wing. I’m sure Rutten has a few ideas.
I think Caro is either trying to create conflict for the sake of TV, or she just doesn't understand Matthew Lloyd. Yes, he loves the Bombers, but go and read his book (it's awesome :-)) if you want to understand. His football brain and insight is way ahead of hers.
Lloyd is bang on. The dons can't get ahead of themselves, we see too often teams that do and where they end up. If the dogs kicked straight in that game they would have won somewhat comfortably. But they didn't, and Essendon won instead. Can't blow things out of proportion, look at what happens every year with the media and Carlton
Lloyd respects Caro, so he’s upset that she was putting down his opinion. She’s allowed to disagree and have a counter opinion. I didn’t see any sarcasm from Caro. He was hurt and took it as a personal attack. It’s like when you value someone, they do something, and then you see red and your emotions take over, causing you to overreact or have a misunderstanding.
Oooof great spicy debate. Good onya Lloyd for standing up for yourself but Caro was ultimately proved right. Not going to go anywhere near the sarcasm comment that is something you can figure out without my input 😂
The media had us (Crows) hyped as finals contenders & Tex for Brownlow (after the first few rounds). Now 17th and Tex for the gallows instead. Never good to prematurely hype a team.
Actually hilarious caro saying that bombers supporters don't need to hear negativity every week. Especially with what she says about North week in week out.
It's sometimes hard to work out how much is real and how much is theartre. This looked real as they both looked a bit unsettled. There's obviously some bad blood between these two but Lloyd has every right to defend himself as she was questioning his credibility and his independence as a commentator. I don't mind Lloyd these days, but I still despise Essendon and always will.
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Lloyd always gets trampled on so good on him for sticking up.
Couldn't agree more. Carro has an inability to listen
@@markmurray9591 Yeah She's a very divisive figure.
I dunno I thought Lloyd was rude and disrespectful
I think Lloyd has more knowledge about the bombers than Caro ever will
You would be the shed guy who was abusing her regarding Clarkson at Hawthorn.
hence the bias
maybe when he was playing,that was a long time ago,and he often says he's not down there anymore...
& afl footy in general especially as he's played it at the elite level and she's just a journalist. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion
About life full stop
Hats off to you Matthew Lloyd. What an absolute masterclass in professionalism.
Wasn't the biggest fan of Lloyd in his playing days, mostly because he always seemed to kick bags of goals against the Hawks, and I won't even mention Brad Sewell, but I always respected him because of how great of a player he was.
He is VERY knowledgeable when it comes to our great game.
Good on him for firing back here.
Much respect for a legend of the game.
hes become one of my favorite media personals lately, same with Kane (unpopular opinion)
@@jackdevitt6338 agree ... and also wasn't a Lloyd fan gameday, love him in the media (Cornes too)
I agree. Last year he suggested a one off super season played over 2020/21 with 17 games last year and 17 games this year + finals and he was mocked by a few people for that idea. Seeing Covid is still ongoing it might have made things a lot easier for fixturing.
He is like Cameron Ling, they both love their clubs but when it comes to commenting on the game they put away their club loyalties. I have seen no Essendon bias from him whatsoever. Wilson is only doing this because she is nervous she might not see her beloved Tigers playing finals. I don't know why Lloyd sticks around with this mob. He is one of the better footy analysts going around.
To me he is my #1 trusted opinion in AFL media. Absolute jet.
Honestly has never come across as a "journo" through his time at nine.
Always seems to have a level head on his shoulders and doesn't "go after" anyone.
We need more people like him on the panels. Not pot stirrers, making more drama for ratings.
I could only dream of having Lloyds calmness and composure, the way he handled that was impressive. Good on him for sticking up for himself
I agree with Lloydy...he's trying to keep it low key...we've played out of our skins this year when most had us bottom 4...with a young squad you don't want that to be the thing you're focusing on...it's about cups and sustained excellence...by all means enjoy the wins and if we get there, the experience of a finals series but maintain the hunger...it's not negative to think we're not winning it this year, it's realistic...missing out on finals might be just the thing to keep them fired up...make it or not I'm super proud of the boys...they look to be building something special...
@@andrewrogers5962 we were picked by some to finish as low as 18th and bottom 4 for most, and the fact is that we r in a pretty good spot to finish 8th or even 7th if things go our way, so yeh id say we had played out of skins considering the list and the development of players. For example if u said a the end of last season that darcy parish would finish potentially in the top 5 of the brownlow u would have said ur insane. So massive development for an extremely young team.
Can't think of a player I hated more but respect as much as a commentator and good guy as Lloyd. Shows how bias for your team affects your judgement (Hawks fan).
He was proven to be right as well, whether the club got ahead of itself or not, the Bombers have definitely declined big time this year and last year is looking like more of an aberration than natural progress.
Lloyd is so level headed. One of my favourite AFL media personalities.
Caro was being a knob. Lloyd is one of the sharpest commentators in the game - and certainly doesn’t comment through Essendon tinted glasses.
I reckon these journos sometimes forget they're sitting with one of the greatest forwards of all time. Not an Essendon fan but Matthew Lloyd has forgotten more football than these journos will ever know.
Caro was being pretty condescending there. Instead of building her own counter argument with evidence or insight, she essentially just belittled his opinion. Fair call out from Lloydy.
That’s what she does and if anyone tries standing up to her she gets even more offensive
She's so used to saying whatever she wants and other person saying nothing back so was nice to see Lloydy put her in her place
He apologised the next day
"I must have last word" Wilson at it again.
I am a Carlton supporter. I hated Lloyd as a player, for obvious reasons. However, he is my number one go to commentator. He doesn't lie. He knows where players are at. Always gives honest feedback. I don't mind Kane either, but does get it wrong at times. Roos is very good, too. Everyone else is very ordinary.
You cant have heard Cameron LIng on the abc
Cornes is the straightest shooter of all and owns it when he gets it wrong..
He apologised to caro the next ep
Well done Lloyd. Caro is absolutely in the wrong here.
Hmmm why did he take it back next episode? Why are bombers playing finals?
@@89joshuadavies you have missed the point of my comment.
About time someone told her how it is to her face. What a legend
Barrack for the mighty pies and agree with Lloydy. He has surprised me as an analyst, he is pretty even keeled.
UP THE PIESS
He is right on most stuff he says and I agree with him on most things. One of the better footy heads out there that gives unbias opinions
He played in our last winning grand final with some of our finest players, then played in a losing grand final with the same players. He played in the greatest comeback win. He was apart of our last winning and losing finals team in 04. He then became our captain. Broke his leg. Copped criticism. Retired then 2 or 3 years later had to watch our club go through utter turmoil. Watched one of his best mates nearly neck himself because of it. Watched special players leave. He's seen, done, watched and bitten his tongue long enough.
He is right in every aspect, if we set ourselves up with unrealistic expectations then if we don't reach it we have greater disappointment which may lead us further away from our end goal. Caro hasn't liked the club since 2012. She does have good points but at times she goes too far. When people do it to her she doesn't want to hear it so well done lloydy for standing up for himself about time someone did.
Caro.... disrespectful, dominating and debases others too easily. Good job Matthew for calling her out.
Lloyd hates "sarcasm". The only other time I've seen him like this is when Hutchy applauded him sarcastically for helping a player with goal kicking
Lloydy! She does, every second she gets to talk her precious tigers up, then has the sooks on when she tries to humiliate Lloydy and he makes look like the fool she is. Great stuff.
She's not a fool - she knows a hell of a lot more than at least I do and I think I know a fair bit!
1) she was talking UP the bombers you moron
2) Lloyd apologised the next episode.
@@89joshuadavies
I didn't write anything about the way she was speaking about Essendon.
Wilson’s ego is bigger than the MCG, have never understood why any TV channel would want her so called expert comments & opinions.
As a token female..?
Well done Lloydy!! Called out Caro for her hypocrisy. Stuck to his guns even when she demeaned his feelings on her attitude towards him and then she had a go at Hutchy for backing Lloyd up.
Velvet Sledgehammer goes whack! lol
Lloyd is 100% right. Brisbane 2009. Surprised made finals. Did well in the finals. We backed the team too much and traded key players, didn’t make finals for 10 years. (Yes the Suns expansion taking some Ket lions players didn’t help) but the point still remains false positive finals births aren’t ideal
Lloyd knows bombers aren't ready this years finals campaign but quietly confident bombers will be top 4 next season . Club's back as powerhouse club again there's a buzz around team .
Caro always trying to be the alpha in the room and then rightfully so gets challenged for being disrespectful. Then she will cry boy club misogyny to Karen on twitter.
yeah dangle, she's always been a double-dipper as an alpha/victim.
Once again the difference between players and non players is clearly on display. Non playing analysts will never truly understand a true football mentality. Get rid of them.
Yes she may think Lloydy is being biased because he played for Essendon but we all know hes way past hes glory days and now talks in realism about eveyteam no matter what circumstances. Good on Lloyd for sticking up for himself
As an Essendon supporter, we never had high hopes this year, we expected to finish bottom 4, so the fact that we've done as well as we have is great, if we make the finals, absolutely fantastic! if we dont, we've had a great year as is, so as usual Caro is wrong and well done Lloydy for not backing down, he knows what the go is
This woman is “always right”🙄 and always offended and will never concede squat. Get her off. She is so far left I’m surprised she doesn’t walk in circles.
Caro gets so defensive when someone doesn’t agree with her
"I think he's being too conservative & his red & black slipper's showing". Yep, that's an objectively sarcastic comment. I'm a swans fan & I wouldn't be happy with a comment like that if she was speaking to an ex swans player.
Kinda disrespectful to say it to a club/competition legend
Lordo with that calmness is such a refreshing thing to see in the media these days
If she's doing it on purpose, she's playing the heel to perfection, there's nothing to like about Caro at all. Christ, I hated Lloyd when he was playing, im now a fan of him because of how garbage Caro is.
I’ve never seen Lloyd angry like this. I think he was being overly negative about the ESS players and projecting. They may not get ahead of themselves.
@Dingo Jones well nows the time to change that 😩😩😩😩
I am a bit disappointed in Lloydy… surely he could have found a way here to segway into a time he kicked a bag… 🔴⚫️
“Of course you would” ahahahahha
Why is Caro allowed to act like such a child and still be given a voice? Lloydy did the right thing and I hope more people call her out for being such a cow so often. Cornes does almost exactly the same thing, he’s just a little less personally belittling to people.
Way past time Wilson was moved on...
Exactly! She's wrong about every topic! Clarko hawks coach 2022
She's literally always correct lol. You are all blinded by your baby balls
@@89joshuadavies Clarko Hawks coach 2022
Lloydy is one of the best in the business and shows passion and professionalism all the time, dont understand why so many hate him. and Caro IS the worst should be gone (not Essendon fan)
Caro was definitely wrong here. Lloydy has always been quite fair and sometimes overly harsh on the Dons and im a Carlton fan.
How Caro still has a job is beyond me, she's consistently wrong about every topic she talks about
Yeah, just like how she was wrong about predicting that this would be Alistair Clarkson’s last year at the Hawks.
I am not a fan of Caro and I thought that Loyd was the bigger person in this exchange, but what you have commented makes no sense
@@bro5469 that’s the only thing she was right on and she makes so many comments she’s bound to get one right
@@bro5469 she's been banging on about that for 5 years so she had to get it right eventually
@@bro5469 Lol she's said that the passed few years mate 🤣
The Eagles midfield has been pedestrian for two years now how on earth did they make this list????
On reputation and past form, this WC fan would place them 3rd on that list behind Bulldogs (Honestly, Bulldogs and Demons are a coinflip). On 2020 form alone, they probably don't belong on this list.
@@toddgunther8272 reputation and past form is irrelevant they've folded this year in ways I haven't seen from North Melbourne let alone a supposed top 8 team
Caro suggesting someone is being negative and then getting defensive? No one dwells on the negative more than she does and whenever questioned she gets very defensive and usually calls on the gender card.
Why is she arguing with someone who’s been in the industry for decades about what’s right and wrong? 😂💀
It's shocking she is still on the show
That was the most manufactured argument ever.
Yeah, but we just watched it! What a storm in a teacup.
Right, fake controversy for ratings.
Every Bombers fan I've spoken to has said pretty much exactly what Lloyd is saying here. We would actually prefer to miss finals this year and build on it than make them and get humiliated in the first round and think we are better than what we are. We've had a very nice draw this year but haven't really beaten any top club other than the Bulldogs and a very up and down West Coast. We've seen enough first round finals losses in the last 15 years. Falling into 8th spot might be good for the club but it might be damaging to the team
Couldn't agree with you more
Caro’s gotta go
Caro...give these guys the truth..they never handle the truth!!!
Did Wilson just accuse someone else of being biased?
well said Mathew.
Caro has no idea get rid of it.....
The velvet sledgehammer LOL
As a Bombers fan, this season has been a complete bonus. Certainly didn't expect us to be winning many games. Next year or the year after, I expect us to be seriously in finals contention.
I like both of them here. I think Caro is right in that Lloydy as a baked on Essendon fan can be a tad pessimistic at times - but I also agree with Lloydy that where we finish this year is largely inconsequential. It probably didn't need to get as heated as it did, but it's good tele!
And Llyoyd goes BANG!! LOL...
Time for Wilson to go
And he was right
can someone please define for me the two expressions that were used in this argument?
'put the duffel coat on'
'your red and black slip is showing'
Good on ya Lloydy. Love your work. One of the best analysists out there.
Good on you Lloydy
Everybody's always bagging out Caro, regardless of the topic. I for one, as a bomber supporter wouldn't mind getting a bit excited at the prospect of making finals. Been a while between drinks. Don't forget Llordo, you were also publicly bagging out Rutten's game plan and style of play.
have to agree with Caro this time.....maybe a first...
Me as well... can’t believe I’m saying this. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter in the slightest if we make finals or not we have done enough as a new group this year.
Bless him... he doesn't know what sarcasm means .
Llyody is a chad for not backing down to Caro
Lloyd is no Tim Watson…he is markedly more objective and often highly critical of Essendon, the club he dearly loves and is an all time legend of. So when he says the team is not ready for finals he is genuinely arguing on facts and evidence and not some coy attempt at playing things down. He is of course right. Essendon will only get dismantled in an elimination final and therefore continue their humiliation record of finals failures over the last 17 years. 2022…well that’s an altogether different proposition.
You can hate the sarcasm LLOYD, I hate your bias!
Well done Caro, this aged well
On ya Llordo!!!! Loved how he stood firm on his 2 cents!!! Up the Dons!!! ⚫🔴
Good to see Lloyd show some personality, usually he just seems like an awkward deer in headlights
I've never seen Lloyd to be biased towards Essendon like maybe ricciuto is towards Adelaide
You gotta be kidding !
Do you watch the Sunday footy show
Everyone bashing caro again. Why??😂 She is always right in the end. Essendon need the be aggressive. A rebuild era is very lovely in theory but the windows are tiny and it'll pass them by again and again unless they are serious about a flag every moment. They have the list. Lloyd played in a baby bombers side!! He should know better than anyone.
Anyway carn pear
Seeing how the bombers are going this season (2022) at 1 and 6, Lloyd's opinion looks even more valid
As a one eyed bomber supporter. I love Lloydy. But I respect the way he goes about his independence from the club even more. He wouldn’t have made himself into a respected media personality without separating himself from the love of Essendon. Caro just nitpicking as usual. Get her off the Tv and bring someone in who people will actually respect and enjoy listening too. Every time she opens her mouth I cringe.
Imagine being rattled on national television by Aunty Caro.
I think Smithy has been banged up this year, his last 3 weeks I think has been good as far as effort is concerned he just hasn’t been the tackling machine he was when he first came over. Shiel has played well the last two his first week back against the giants was a shocker but he was coming back from injury.
When pidge comes back maybe flick Cox up forward and McGrath on the wing. I’m sure Rutten has a few ideas.
Good man Lloyd!! Go the bombers ! A mighty side in the making
Some nice make-up going on there Lordo.
Lloyd lined her up line she was Chad Cornes back in the day,
its about them getting top 6 next year. and tell me Lloyd, how did that work out for them?
I thought they were gonna start throwing fists for a second
I think Caro is either trying to create conflict for the sake of TV, or she just doesn't understand Matthew Lloyd. Yes, he loves the Bombers, but go and read his book (it's awesome :-)) if you want to understand. His football brain and insight is way ahead of hers.
Do any of the hosts actually like each other, other than Ross and everyone else
Yea i'm usually all aboard the Lloyd train but that was a bit over the top I thought.
Lloyd is bang on. The dons can't get ahead of themselves, we see too often teams that do and where they end up. If the dogs kicked straight in that game they would have won somewhat comfortably. But they didn't, and Essendon won instead. Can't blow things out of proportion, look at what happens every year with the media and Carlton
As a non Essendon supporter this appears to be a Lloyd/Bombers love-in judging by the comments.
I am impartial for whatever it tales😋.
"It was offensive"
Doesn't tell me which clip it is, as it could relate to any week with Caro..
Lloyd is really excelling as a panelist I think he one of sports more legit and respected personalities
1:40 "...his red and black slip is showing..." How many howls of sexism and misogyny would we get if that comment was made the other way around?
That’s a battle of the brains right there. Caro would flatten the velvet sledgehammer in a physical altercation.
I’m not much of a fan of Caro but Lloydy clearly doesn’t quite understand what sarcasm is because she was not being sarcastic at all.
Lloyd respects Caro, so he’s upset that she was putting down his opinion. She’s allowed to disagree and have a counter opinion. I didn’t see any sarcasm from Caro. He was hurt and took it as a personal attack. It’s like when you value someone, they do something, and then you see red and your emotions take over, causing you to overreact or have a misunderstanding.
Well done Lloydo, Caro gets so defensive every time someone mentions the Tigers she can’t fathom someone speaking about their own team impartially
Oooof great spicy debate. Good onya Lloyd for standing up for yourself but Caro was ultimately proved right. Not going to go anywhere near the sarcasm comment that is something you can figure out without my input 😂
The media had us (Crows) hyped as finals contenders & Tex for Brownlow (after the first few rounds). Now 17th and Tex for the gallows instead. Never good to prematurely hype a team.
Actually hilarious caro saying that bombers supporters don't need to hear negativity every week. Especially with what she says about North week in week out.
Good anger from Llordo. Love it
Hahaha love watching her squirm.
Lloydy go you good thing
It's sometimes hard to work out how much is real and how much is theartre. This looked real as they both looked a bit unsettled. There's obviously some bad blood between these two but Lloyd has every right to defend himself as she was questioning his credibility and his independence as a commentator. I don't mind Lloyd these days, but I still despise Essendon and always will.