First look at the Ford Trimotor in Microsoft Flight Simulator

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  • The Ford Trimotor has appeared in Microsoft Flight Simulator, and it's FREE! You can download it from the marketplace right now. I'm not sure how long it will remain free for. I work through starting it's engines, and doing a short flight from Wycombe Air Park over to Elstree. Enjoy!
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  • @mscman13
    @mscman13 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Omg, this is the first plane I ever flew in. A guy brought his '28 tri-motor to the local airport and was doing 30 minute flights over the city and surrounding areas. One of my favorite memories with my dad and grandpa... Going to have to recreate that flight in their memories. ❤

  • @4freebird69
    @4freebird69 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    If you turn the brass nob to the right of the primer, you can change the gages. There are three sets to choose from.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fantastic! Will take a look at that next flight :)

  • @Hand6108
    @Hand6108 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Got to take a ride in a Ford Tri-Motor at an air show in Texas. Truly epic aircraft.

  • @MojaveHigh
    @MojaveHigh ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There are two knobs on the left side of the center console that open the cabin and cargo doors respectively. One high, one low. Cargo door comes with an old Ford truck.

  • @Spartan_Jackal
    @Spartan_Jackal ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I just saw this in the marketplace and while it was downloading I said "I bet Beckett's already made a video" lmao good stuff, my guy.
    Also I love how they added the ability to switch between what kind of instrument panels you want without having to exit the sim and selecting a whole different plane like with the DC-3

    • @S.G.A.R.C.O
      @S.G.A.R.C.O 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🏳️‍🌈👊🏳️‍⚧️

  • @Hoomaluhia1
    @Hoomaluhia1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While cycling through the camera views, one of the views is an exterior view of the left engine. I use the right arrow key to pass through the fuselage into the passenger cabin. I let the AI pilot takeover for awhile and I sit in the back and enjoy the views. I knew I wouldn't have to wait long for you to post this beauty. Your channel remains my go-to for all things MSFS! Thank you!

    • @DietCoke88
      @DietCoke88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't play in VR? I honestly don't recommend the sim unless you're in VR. It's the most incredible experience.

    • @russellmillett5642
      @russellmillett5642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@DietCoke88 there are plenty of people playing the sim that don't have VR and it's just as enjoyable. I'm sure there are sim set ups with multiple screens and all the applicable hardware that's more immersive than fumbling about with hardware with a VR headset on, or worse...keyboard and mouse 🤢

  • @ilikeplanees4925
    @ilikeplanees4925 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I come to you for every tutorial, no series, just high quality videos with well explanation. Please keep doing tutorials and keep it up!

  • @Bradly197
    @Bradly197 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have 1.3 hours right seat, IRL on a Tri-Motor. Logged and signed. My flight instructor owned one... A long time ago.

  • @wskinn
    @wskinn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That wing is so thick! And anther well done piece of work by you, Sir.

    • @krisplottner8733
      @krisplottner8733 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fun fact: the wing is so thick because that is actually where the luggage was stored…up to 300lbs per wing. Definitely a neat plane!

  • @BHPilot82
    @BHPilot82 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had the privilege of flying one of these Fords awhile back, got to sit in the copilot's seat and right after takeoff the pilot let me fly it for a good 35-40 minutes and got it lined up for final and he did the landing. Have to use A LOT of rudder for coordinated flight, those long ailerons....The most awesome experience in my life, apart from getting my PPL beforehand lol

  • @elj320
    @elj320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another GREAT review!
    Thank you! 🙂👍

  • @rodneylackey9726
    @rodneylackey9726 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @tomasaguilo3099
    @tomasaguilo3099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video, thanks!

  • @jurgengro59
    @jurgengro59 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this interesting Video, i can say like always. Your Videos helped me a lot.
    I downloaded it, but had no time to try it. Looks fine to fly. Keep up your fantastic work and have a nice weekend.

  • @LilBiscuitRB
    @LilBiscuitRB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Y’all know about the secret teddy bear in the left wing. Idk if I’m the first one who found it but you can only see it in VR.

  • @jayteeaitch
    @jayteeaitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed this video and the fact that it is free at the moment - VH-USX - is an Australian rego because Papua New Guinea was an
    Aussie territory where this actual aircraft finished its life - maybe Asobo used some of the existing photos for the texture

  • @nigel900
    @nigel900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice. 👍🏻

  • @axelrajr
    @axelrajr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    from what i understand, the trimotor is a quite docile aircraft.
    i think the big Easter egg would be the 1 and 3 engine gauges. the engine gauges on the dash would be the center engine, and the gauges for 1 and 3 are on the engines themselves, you look out the window to read them. they dont seem to work though, there doesn't seem to be needles on the gauges.

  • @adamb3286
    @adamb3286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've actually flown in it. It comes to my town once a year. It lives up to it's Legend.

  • @peterjones6733
    @peterjones6733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Three engines… 1 temp gauge, 1 rpm indicator, 1 oil temp gauge. What do they refer to… just one engine?? AH! They’re on the engine mounts!!

  • @outdoorsdelmarva5691
    @outdoorsdelmarva5691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video...she looks good in the 1935 airfield mods..Philly,Balt,Newark and Ohio. Great for air mail routes.

  • @DeLorean4
    @DeLorean4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be fun to try this airplane at the Ford Dearborn test track which used to be an airfield.

  • @andysvehiclehistorychannel
    @andysvehiclehistorychannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to get that i'v imagining what it was like to fly this big bird in the 20s

  • @HarmanMotorWorks
    @HarmanMotorWorks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice looking plane. I've just downloaded it too I'll have to check it out! Things that stand out for me are the great spinning prop animations, especially when viewed side-on. Not many addon developers get this right and when viewed from an angle, their spinning props look '2D' in appearance; nothing like that here. One thing though (and this is an MSFS thing I'm certain) is that no one has seemed to get the stopping engine animation quite 'natural' looking yet. Props either just slam stopped...or in this case, you can see they have tried to put some 'compression kickback' into the animation as the prop stops...but it still looks a bit forced. I'm nit-picking though! Great video!

  • @drumbri
    @drumbri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video. Thank you.

  • @beijingpete
    @beijingpete ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, the cold and dark start is very useful. It's free to download until the 30th of June.

  • @danielbritsch6230
    @danielbritsch6230 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jonathan, thank you for all of your great videos. Which are some of your favorite airplanes?

  • @Chuttanooga
    @Chuttanooga ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This airplane is a dream. I would like to fly and sleep in it all day. :)

  • @PharaohMan007
    @PharaohMan007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The same plane in Temple of Doom I think!

  • @mikecoffee100
    @mikecoffee100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta Luv this Johnanthan gets on things right away Thank You and don't realy know would motoring in the English country side would be loads of fun or perhaps in an aeroplane hmmm perhaps aeroplane.

  • @Bigboss45305
    @Bigboss45305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Autopilot does work and I did an RNAV successfully with it best landing so far I’ve done

    • @Elcicikos
      @Elcicikos ปีที่แล้ว

      autopilot in trimotor?

  • @LowescC
    @LowescC ปีที่แล้ว

    ....incredibly beautiful

  • @Anonymuskid
    @Anonymuskid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These videos are sooo relaxing and interesting at the same time! Anyone feel the same? Or am I weird lol

  • @blackterminal
    @blackterminal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Indiana Jones. Cool video. Thank you.

  • @rolanddutton
    @rolanddutton ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beauty. I'd like it to be a bit more complex to fly. One thing I like about Aeroplane Heaven's "premium" a/c is that they have a nice feel to them, but this one feels a bit vanilla.
    Can't complain about free though. Still a lovely for a relaxing flight.

  • @MegaPeedee
    @MegaPeedee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Engine sounds surely cannot be that muted in the real aircraft. Sound immersion means better immersion so what is going on with this model, I wonder.

  • @Devilish__
    @Devilish__ ปีที่แล้ว

    Im overseas away from home for a month and all this fantastic stuff is coming to msfs while I’m gone 😅

  • @ravelino123
    @ravelino123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can change panel type on the knob right to Priming Control Engines

  • @rickwilcox5131
    @rickwilcox5131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be flying on one of these tomorrow. EAA is bringing it to my local airport

  • @weltvonoben
    @weltvonoben ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love a improved sound, after the beaver im spoiled

  • @payt01
    @payt01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure why the engines on all these asobo planes sound so thin/tinny. It's like there's no low-end or substance to them at all. Even the stratoliner sounds super thin, nothing like how it's supposed to sound. Maybe they have a deaf sound guy or something, but it'd be nice if we got some engine noises that actually represented the real thing :)

  • @yonatanalejandrochavezlevi2722
    @yonatanalejandrochavezlevi2722 ปีที่แล้ว

    simplemente hermoso 🎉

  • @SPR159
    @SPR159 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sound has been fixed, cockpit geometry and nose geometry fixed! maybe you can do a comparison?

  • @Blxz
    @Blxz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the left engine going but the right and centre starter/energiser buttons were bugged locked. Couldn't press them or activate in any way. This was a good video though. Perhaps I should revisit?

  • @joel77703
    @joel77703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The manual is pretty good. Aeroplane Heaven also did the DC3. One of the easier tail draggers to take off and land from my experience.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah - it seems a bit simplified - but Asobo often set that as a requirement - so beginners don't get discouraged.

    • @joel77703
      @joel77703 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jonbeckett It probably is simplified but at the same time I have a hard time believing that a lot of existing tail draggers in this sim are as difficult to keep straight in real life as they are in this sim.

  • @Squirel
    @Squirel ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a load of fun. I still enjoy my JU-52 and I'm guessing from their set up that they would be quite similar.

    • @joshallen4848
      @joshallen4848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It more or less feels the same to fly. Easy, floaty, and forgiving.
      Too arcade-like for me to want to mess with often but the plane model itself looks fantastic.

    • @S.G.A.R.C.O
      @S.G.A.R.C.O 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whats good king

  • @777FreakyD
    @777FreakyD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you notice you can change the front panel by twisting the knob just to the right of the fuel primer controls. There is an old school panel, old school panel w/ gyropilot and a modern panel with GPS screens.

    • @Blxz
      @Blxz ปีที่แล้ว

      Did not know they had gps screens. Informative comment! Thanks.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Blxzaka "glass cockpit" or "primary flight display"

    • @Blxz
      @Blxz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tissuepaper9962 yeah, I'm aware of the terminology. Thanks for double checking.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blxz oh, it wasn't a double check, it was a passive agressive correction. "gps screen" is inaccurate.

    • @Blxz
      @Blxz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tissuepaper9962 good on you. Passive aggressive is the first step to coming out of your shell. Wish you the best with your journey.

  • @Ngamer834
    @Ngamer834 ปีที่แล้ว

    MSFS has been quite slow for me with downloads and data loading within the sim recently. Confirmed my connection is running at optimum speeds so guessing there's some server issues going on. Anyway, did see this plane and hoping to try soon.
    Edit: Just had a flight with this very impressed for a free add on. A great plane to go sight seeing in the visibility is the best I have seen. Only downside and to be expect given the age of the aircraft (no criticism) is I wouldn't want to be flying this to far given there's no autopilot but very stable to fly at least. It does have another panel with a GPS but I find flying with the vintage panel and cheating a bit by bringing up my PMS750 toolbar is a nice combo for modern navigation.

  • @Mariano.Bernacki
    @Mariano.Bernacki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It has no flaps"
    Bro it has too much drag already you were 10 degrees nose down and airspeed was chilling at 70 mph

  • @TriJetSimPilot
    @TriJetSimPilot ปีที่แล้ว

    If you enter flight plan from main menu , just engage AI flies and it’s good as AP

  • @gearheadgregwi
    @gearheadgregwi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where's the inflatable raft Indy uses to jump out with?

  • @b43xoit
    @b43xoit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    During starting, the pilots seem to pump the throttles or mixture controls.

  • @jonbeckett
    @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Following further experimentation, you may need to trigger the solenoid BEFORE the starter pops back up. Any further expertise on this would be helpful :)

    • @MojaveHigh
      @MojaveHigh ปีที่แล้ว

      I have only had luck starting them if I let the starters pop up first

    • @PThomas22
      @PThomas22 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is documentation in the install directory. Prime 4 pumps, starter on, wait around 10 seconds, solenoid, then mag. Will fire up every time.

  • @b43xoit
    @b43xoit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hoses between the engine cylinders are missing.

  • @austincriswell8480
    @austincriswell8480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turn your mags on before the solenoids, they are just grounded/not grounded. Your loosing your prime with every turn of the prop. Unless it was written in the checklist for saftey or something

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm following the checklist (which I'm always doubtful of - the checklists in MSFS tend to be wrong - I actually had a real DC3 pilot help me get it right for that aircraft) :)

  • @paularrowsmith6829
    @paularrowsmith6829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jonathan. I have just subscribed to your channel. May I ask, what system are you using for MSFS ?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you look at the bottom of the video notes it tells you :)

    • @paularrowsmith6829
      @paularrowsmith6829 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonbeckett how do you find that setup ? Do you have any issues with performance etc ?

  • @jonnie2bad
    @jonnie2bad ปีที่แล้ว

    hoping for duckworks to get ahold of this one

  • @nicknicholson1268
    @nicknicholson1268 ปีที่แล้ว

    Novelty adventure, to quote you Jon, thank you. I won't fly it much unless they offer autopilot integration. Same problem with the equally beautiful C195 Businessliner. I like it low and slow, but for the stretches that I like to cover I am too lazy to hold the yoke, my bad.

    • @Blxz
      @Blxz ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't tested it but there is apparently a glass cockpit option built in and that might come with the standard autopilot.

    • @nicknicholson1268
      @nicknicholson1268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blxz Thanks, that is great news! I will try.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heard of trim?

    • @nicknicholson1268
      @nicknicholson1268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tissuepaper9962 Yes, tissuepaper, (I have) "heard of trim", thank you for your question. If I may kindly ask, do you think a good trim alone will keep the aircraft on its intended flight path without any input from the yoke, rudder or throttles? Would you switch, on relatively long flights, on an external view for a longer period of time in your sim and be sure your aircraft will maintain your intended flight path? (In order to admire the scenery). Also, do you think that a good trim in general is a good substitute for an autopilot? (In aviation). All the best, cheers.

  • @coldisle
    @coldisle ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a lovely free gift and flying it was just beautiful

  • @regal163
    @regal163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jonathan, is there any difference between entering a flight plane in the MS world map and in the glass cockpit as one of your video's shows?.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      The more accurate aircraft don't allow the route from the world map - because there's more involved than it can provide.

    • @regal163
      @regal163 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonbeckett Oh right, thank you👍.

  • @Foxtrot_EW
    @Foxtrot_EW ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you access the model T truck and load the luggage like I see some people doing?

  • @Missed_Apex_GT
    @Missed_Apex_GT ปีที่แล้ว

    Sixteen hundred RPM rather than “sixteen thousand” I’d imagine but great vid

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep - I often say one thing, and mean another (usually because I'm recording at some ridiculous time at night)

  • @Arclein.
    @Arclein. ปีที่แล้ว

    It is free until June 30th according to the marketplace.

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ford stands for Found On Ramp Dead or Found On Runway Dead.

  • @Elcicikos
    @Elcicikos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does your autopilot in gps panel version works?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll try it next time I load the aircraft.

  • @steveparks1197
    @steveparks1197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just noticed that yours has Australian registration...Maybe Orbx was involved.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure - I thought it was Aeroplane Heaven.

    • @steveparks1197
      @steveparks1197 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonbeckett VH- is Australia.

  • @michaelasbury7121
    @michaelasbury7121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you mean 1,600 rpm, not 16,000.😂 Otherwise, yreat video!

  • @BentleyTypeR
    @BentleyTypeR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the issue I have with this plane is that, in the market place, at least one picture was from the inside of the cabin, but as all who have this can see, you cannot access the cabin, which is probably the biggest downside to this

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can use the drone camera to get into the cabin.

    • @S.G.A.R.C.O
      @S.G.A.R.C.O 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jonbeckettwhat liveries does this plane have?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S.G.A.R.C.O Many, many liveries at flightsim.to :)

  • @osip_1984
    @osip_1984 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why but I am not able to start the central engine even following the procedure step by step.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's *very* fickle.

    • @edwardmyers1746
      @edwardmyers1746 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't get the right engine going at all.

  • @jodygryczkowski132
    @jodygryczkowski132 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Right engine almost never starts

  • @falcony100
    @falcony100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They finally fixed the disproportion of the windows in this model.. thanks god

  • @jsa2001
    @jsa2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just downloaded this, its kind of something you will fly 3 times in a year.

  • @yamahaguy1732
    @yamahaguy1732 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know why but for the life of me I can’t get the right engine to fire

  • @AstrogeoJay
    @AstrogeoJay ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the windows able to be opened?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think so.

    • @AstrogeoJay
      @AstrogeoJay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonbeckett It's a shame, would have been nice to open them up and listen to the sound of the radials firing up. In fact the engine sounds seem rather muted, maybe its my sound settings. For a freebie though certainly can't complain.

    • @AstrogeoJay
      @AstrogeoJay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonbeckett Actually you can open them! if you can see the line in the windscreen there is a click spot and that opens it. Does not seem to make the external sounds any louder though.

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    showed as $15 when I loaded up... :(

  • @oztez9222
    @oztez9222 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🦘🇦🇺🤙

  • @blackscooby251
    @blackscooby251 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'll look for about 16 000RPM"... surely not. 1600RPM would seem more fitting.
    It's not a jet 🙂!

  • @Dodge0359A
    @Dodge0359A ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's an absolutely gorgeous plane, and very well designed... My problem with it is... It's way, waaaaay too clean. We're talking about an aircraft that is upwards of 100 years old. Those seat belts? They should be kinda grungy after years of handling. Same goes for other parts of the interior. It's all polished. Too polished.

    • @BalticVendetta
      @BalticVendetta ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, stuff has to be kept in good condition, otherwise aircraft go boom. So I think it's only natural that not every detail looks a hundred years old. I think they did a good job.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it looks just like the inside of some of the old aircraft I work with. if somebody cares enough to clean up, these old planes look damn good. lots of parts would have been required to be replaced by now, too.

  • @vihurah9554
    @vihurah9554 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saw one of these at fredrick (kfdk), what a big loud beast

  • @blainemartin1397
    @blainemartin1397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They need to have 2 MSFS’s…. One for these crappy, pre-jet age aircraft and that use propellers and one for modern aircraft that most people want to fly! Of all the planes that are developed, 8/10 of them I would never buy or fly!

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're presuming that everybody agrees with you. I think you'll find the world is a lot more diverse than that.

  • @HELERsx
    @HELERsx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its a nice plane for free, even $10 Dollars are fair but the sound is awefull. Its the plane is powered by a single 1.9 TDI VW-Engine...

  • @normg2242
    @normg2242 ปีที่แล้ว

    The wooden spokes on the steering wheels don't look right to me, they would break if built like that, they should be metal.
    I also find the cockpit windows too high, Other than that, a really nice model!

  • @liamdudeeee
    @liamdudeeee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's got to be the most disappointing internal engine sounds ive heard yet. Hell, even the passing cars were louder. Why is aeroplane heaven like this?

  • @catdakman1273
    @catdakman1273 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOUR starting system is ALL WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @scotty6346
    @scotty6346 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's great that Asobo provide some free, Quality aircraft as well as their very reasonable priced, Quality aircraft add ons! They hardly cash grab do they?

  • @falcony100
    @falcony100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is just me but I notice this plane cockpit windows bigger than the original design. Can anybody contrast this?..more noticeable the pilot and copilot side windows.