How to Install a House Hydrant | Ask This Old House
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- Ask This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey installs a house hydrant to replace a leaky outdoor spigot. (See below for a shopping list, tools, and steps.)
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Shopping List for How to Install a House Hydrant:
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Tools for How to Install a House Hydrant:
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Steps for How to Install a House Hydrant:
1. Turn off the water supply to the outdoor spigot.
2. Clean the cut point downstream of the water supply valve with an emery cloth.
3. Cut the pipe with a pipe cutter. Some excess water may drain out.
4. Unscrew the outdoor spigot using a screwdriver and remove it.
5. The house hydrant is round; using a pencil, outline the hydrant head on the siding.
6. Using an oscillating saw, cut out the outlined portion of the siding to fit the head.
7. Insert the new pipe and house hydrant head into the hole in the siding.
8. Place a bead of silicone caulking around the hydrant head and secure it with screws using a driver.
9. Place the operating bar inside the pipe until the O-ring is seated at the edge of the pipe and is even with the threads.
10. Connect the spring with a new piece of copper pipe by using a torch to solder the two together away from the new hydrant head pipe.
11. Use the torch to solder the remaining copper pipe connection back to the main water supply.
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For the record, even though he soldered the male adapter "away" from that o-ring, he still burned the hell out of it when he soldered the coupling.
Yeah, that was a real facepalm moment right there.
Could of put a wet rag over the part he wanted to protect.
Tom Rom he could've just used a compression fitting and avoided any need to solder
Let's not forget the rubber seat in the gate valve to the left.
Now there are 4 solder joints within two inches of each other
Alot of extra work, expense, cut shingle and a goofy looking blue cover to get the manufacturer sponsor some airtime.
The fix was a $2 washer
Finally! Hallelujah!! I can finally remove that pesky hose bib that works with EVERY hose sold in North America and replace it with one that requires an expensive hunk of plastic that I can't find at the local hardware store. I mean, all this time I've been using a hose bib that works as intended, requires no special adapters or tools, and doesn't drip when I remove the hose, is inexpensive, and has proven to be trouble-free for decades.
How did I get by without this? I mean, if I added up all the times I was walking INCHES from my house and hit myself on the hose bib, I'd realize that it has never happened once.
Now, if only someone would produce a product another product that has the solution to a problem nobody has, we'd be all set. Nice infomercial though folks.
I was thinking the same, if you lose or break the adapter, how hard is it to replace?
Lololol!
sarcasm?
What an idiot. They’ve been using these on commercial buildings for yeara
LMAO
I love TOH videos -- I've watched hundreds of them on YT and have never left a negative comment... until now.
Talk about a solution to a problem that didn't exist!!! Why in the world would anyone think that product is an improvement to a traditional valve/spigot? I wouldn't take one of those if they were giving them away, installing them for free, and throwing in a $50 gas card.
I usually don't walk around my house so close to it so I bump into the faucet. However, when I get drunk all bets are off.
I know this is 3 years old but it’s hilarious because I share the same sentiment! 😂😂
Stop drinking and change your life around!
Those valveless faucets are useless. What if you want to rinse your hands off or shoes or feet? Might seem like a good idea but in practice they are very inconvenient.
I have actually replaced about 5 of those style faucets because people don't like them, primarily because they are hard to connect, can be finicky and spray water and the fact that they can leak all over siding, etc. On a different note, I wonder why I never see Richard using the Milwaukee m12 tubing cutter?
Not to mention all the people yelling, "Where did I put that blue connector?"
What happens when I want to control the flow to get a certain height on my sprinkler. Also, who removes their hose form their spigot every time they're done?
You just leave the plastic adapter on the hose and leave it all outside.. and then it rots from UV exposure
You should remove it everytime from the spigot when you are done
Homeowners hate this man... watch how he turns a 19¢ fix into a $350 hose bibb
LoL. Hey he gave her options lol
More like 80 bucks. Would you rather save 80 dollars and have the pipe freeze, break, and flood your home? How much would that end up costing? Negative prick...
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Was for demonstration purposes primarily. I’d have preferred to change the inside valve to a ball valve
@@saltoftheearth6656 Over this product? I wouldn't. A ball valve will still have to be turned off in the basement and then she'll have to go outside to drain what's in the pipe. This thing does both steps in one easy motion. I would use a ball valve over a compression valve, though.
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Hear you
As someone who has pipes freeze, I’m a bit paranoid about this .....I know there’s a cover but, debris? Internal Malfunction?
Once installed, the o-ring can't be changed without cutting the pipe. The rubber washer on the previous frost-proof valve costs about 5 cents and can be changed in two minutes for another 20 years of leak-free operation. There is one advantage to this system, though. Homeowners kill these rubber washers by cranking down on the valve way past the point where they shut off because they see the residual water flowing out and think it's needs to be closed tighter. This valve eliminates premature damage from abuse. But the o-ring will still wear from abrasives in the water and from chlorine attack.
That smaller new piece is threaded on both ends. It would be a little more work, but not much. Unscrew the piece outside from the house, unscrew the two new pieces, and you are in direct contact with the o-ring.
I installed a Commercial Delta Floor Sink Faucet Bought at Lowes for $127...I now have Hot and Cold outside.Good for washing the Dog-Car ect. I installed 2 shutoff Ball Valves with bleeders in the basement about 24 inches in. It works out great!
Now you are stuck needing a special adapter to make your outdoor faucet usable .........
sugershakify you always needed a special adapter for most purposes. Basically, if you want to do more than fill up a bucket you need a hose.
Yes, but any hose will work with any faucet. If the hose gets misplaced or breaks you can easily get a replacement. If you lose or break that proprietary adaptor, you’re screwed.
@@katokagome4670 you can defeat it with a stick
@@cloud8521 No
"Don't listen to negative people. They have a problem for every solution" ~ Albert Einstein
A lot of things you see on This Old House aren't really great ideas, nor are they actually recommended by the trades people. They are promotional, and the show is paid to demonstrate them.
Also, the siding is clapboard, not shingle.
Yeah, but it shows newer solutions. Not always better ones
You're saying I can't use roofing material as the siding for my house?
Finally a homeowner with personally on these videos.
that design has several flaws. stick to a good traditional water spout.
Mike West what happened when she loses the plastic piece on her junk lol 😂
yeah...not a fan of this "new" technology
I like how her concern was bumping into a faucet. So, they put this on...
Lol right like people walk 4 inches from the house
I could have sold her some designer shin guards if Mr. New Gadget hadn't got to her first.
@@Brian17177 if you look, her sidewalk is right next to the house. She may have been thinking about using the sidewalk and not constantly walking through the yard itself.
Manufacturers have always donated their products to TOH so that the new products can be used to help out a homeowner as well as show case and advertise the product. This outdoor faucet might not be for everyone but it’s nice to see that there is something else available on the market. Thanks TOH’
I notice that it went strait in . They say make sure you drill at slight angle so water drains out. Water could still freeze that in the tube. Yes or no on that ? Are they right?
Nice up sell since all she needed was a .20 cent washer. But I would do this if I was in an area where people were using my hose when I wasn't home. You know, where there are water pirates.
lol california is known for that.
Or turn it off from inside and keep the convenance if a conventional hose spigot and not need to find a special adapter every time
@@vids595 Happens a lot in New York, too, but mostly by homeless people, which I'm sympathetic to.
Rrrrrr ..... Me mately!!! Prepare to be boarded and me mates will relieve your ship of its water!!!
Yo ho yo ho a water pirates life for me !!!
LMAO 😂
Water spigot vandalism is popular in utah. So is straight up water theft from neighbors when water restrictions are in place and they want their lawn kept green when everyone else has brown grass.
When she asked "how old is that" that was such an excellent question.
How would you control the amount of flow with this thing? What happens when you bump into that long plastic thing and bust it? I'll stick to a conventional faucet.
Good one!! How do you control the flow!! It's a lame idea honestly
also your sure 2 lose it eventually, especually if u have children
Its a cool idea but in an emergency I doubt my neighbours are trained in the heat of the moment on how to use it. I had an emergency on my street and ran out during a hot dry summers day and grab my neighbours hose to save his house from burning down when the house behind his was on fire. Honestly if they didn't have a working garden hose and good quality cart we would have lost more then 1 house as it was 20+ mins before the fire department arrived.
***** The safety aspect is something I hadn't thought of. The more I think about it the more useless this thing becomes.
I can just see a dog seeing that piece of plastic and thinking "oh, a chew toy"
I'm glad I saw this because both my out door faucets leak one one the outside of the home and the other on the inside of my home. Now all I have to do is save my money to buy the pair and install them. Cheers....
solution looking for a problem.
And no matter what frost-free hose bib you use it needs to grade to the outside of the house. Or it'll freeze and you need to remove the hose in the winter time
It should've been just a ove a cold window.
I’ve started having the house hydrant videos recommended to me on youtube.
I don’t get how this is an upgrade when now I would have to keep track of an attachment.
that's all nice until you lose or break the plastic part.
ab30494 I can't thumbs-up your comment enough. The absolute unfortunate truth. Great invention! Let's make it out of breakable material.
Breakable, easily replaceable material.
ab30494 - x10000!!!! You know why? Because some moron with the company who made this will have the brilliant idea to change the part slightly, so when you need a replacement adapter, it won't work. Or even better... they'll discontinue it or the company will go out of business. Proprietary stuff sucks! Hopefully this lady bought some spares to last a lifetime.
what if i tell you that you can print it from a 3d printer , and it cost less then 50cent ?
what if i don't have a 3d printer?
These are great we need to bring this to the UK.
How did they get water from inside the house? The main water supplied line should be run from outside your house.
Haha dude's like "Enough of that, stop spraying my fken camera!"
Hey man cool videos, union apprentice here getting helpful residential tips when most of my work is commercial.
How soon after did she get another plumber to replace it with a standard connector?
how can I find out what episode this is? I want to see the What is it part..
Loving the out of position soldering, to then 30 seconds later solder a coupling half an inch further up the pipe. I'm also not sure about this as a replacement for a bib tap, just not as convenient. Why bother using an adjustable pipe slice at 3:08, could easily fit a regular slice in there and not have to fiddle with my least favourite tool.
The thing reminds me of a cell phone without a headset jack. Have to have the adapter to get the water to come out. Is it possible to stay dry with a set up like this one? How does one relieve the water pressure in the hose when unhooking the hose?
I notice that Richard does a lot of bimetallic connections, is that going to create a galvanic corrosion issue????
Solid point🤔
Thanks for uploading these videos! My local PBS channel preempts "Ask This Old House" for fundraising so much it has achieved the opposite effect and driven me away from watching the station!
Would that work well for well water ?? To mke more pressure using it w a garden hose ??
Honey do you remember where the blue tap thingy is.
yea i broke it when i tried to pull the hose out too far and home depot doesnt sell them anymore :)
Bend over and I’ll show you honey
On the end of the hose, where it permanently stays....
I lived in a house that for years you could not shut either faucet from the inside they never froze. Is shutting off in the winter really needed?
It depends on what kind of faucet you have. He was correct when he showed her that she did not need to shut off her water as she had a frost free faucet installed. It also depends on where you live. In the south it may not get cold enough for long enough to need to shut off the water in the winter. North of the Virginia/North Carolina border you will need to shut off the water if you have only a surface faucet.
@@richwood2741 I lived in New England and had a plain faucet.
neat but if you want to fill up a bucket real quick or wash your hands after messing in the yard you have to have a hose hooked up or a special adaptor.... pass on that
Jdub
There's a 1/4 turn valve fitting available with a standard threaded hose fitting where you can either add a hose, or better yet, add a splitter so that you can then turn on the hose or faucet whenever desired.
Then, before the frost season, simply unscrew the valve fitting and you're all set for the winter months.
😉
why not use a standard no siphon freeze proof spigot?
Pass on punctuation apparently huh?
No. It is a great way to wash your hands. Just plug in the adapter and you get the full force pressure all over your body and now you dont need to shower or wash your hands. It is a great idea.
Richie ‘I Like To Try New Things Especially If It Has “Smart” In Front Of It’ Trethewey.
How easy is it to replace the washer in that thing when it goes bad
Is bumping into the faucet actually a problem at her house?
You should have wrapped the assembly that contained the rubber parts with a wet rag when you were shouldering in the coupling.
*phone rings*
Neighbour : YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE ,WHERE IS THE FAUCET AND THE HOSE ?
Me : *facepalms*
I wonder if this has a backflow preventer
The homeowner spraying the camera was the best part!
Replacing metal with plastic🤔
He must own stock in replacement parts stock.
Oh now he is cutting the siding too.
only the cover is plastic
@@RealGalaxyGamers I guess you didn't see the piece on the end of the hose.
Wish every plumber was like this
I have this (well similar) plug tap. Yes you have a fitting for the hose like the one on the video, but there is a tap accessory you can attach if need a conventional tap (or spigot as you peeps call it in the US).
so what's the point?
buy a special tap so you can use special adapters to make it work like a proper tap?
just buy a quickconnect set and use it with a normal tap
So it's like buying an iPhone then buying the adapter to use your headphones
I’ll just turn it off instead in the winter and fix the washer 🤙
Rich always mentions that "You've got full city water pressure coming in through here...." Well, not necessarily. If you're running City water pressure directly into the house and elsewhere, you're putting extra strain on your system. Here in L.A., we have a pressure regulator installed between the street and the house, which cuts the pressure in half (from 100 psi down to 50 psi) prior to entering the house and outside faucets. I would imagine they're available all over the country, and not exclusive to the L.A. market. You just need to check your outside plumbing connections leading into the house to determine if you have one. If not, it would be a good idea to have a professional install one. They do need to be replaced over time, so keep an eye on it, as well. Replacing a pressure regulator can be done by the homeowner; just remember to turn off the water pressure at the street before proceeding. You may be able to buy a replacement regulator at Lowe's or Home Depot; if not, you'll need to go to a plumbing supply store to get one. You can 1) remove it and bring it with you, or 2) write the model number(s) down for the guy behind the counter; a photo of the set-up taken on your cell phone would also be helpful. That person will also ask you where you live, and can size the unit and pressure reduction to those used in your neighborhood.
he literally could have un-threaded the old peice and threaded the new peice in. Instead of making 3 solder connections
Gimmick. Adding another part to a function increases complexity which in turn increases what can go wrong. Lose that hose adapter and you no longer have an outside faucet.
I live in Southern California so zero chance of frost - which gives me options. I've always replaced all those crappy hose bibs with ball valves and adapters (to hose thread). Rubber seat washers last only a couple of years, then they start to leak. The seats get pitted so new washers immediately get damaged and the handles get stiff. O-rings seem to be a bit better but for how long? I've never had a ball valve seize up, leak or fail.
You could have a ball valve in cold climates, but then you'd have to turn off the supply inside the house before cold weather - where I'd also use a ball valve.
How long before the plastic lid falls off?
how do those flush style ones meet code with no vacuum breaker?? is is built in?
I really like the ladder built in the wall were going to get one for our home and love that type of handle for the faucet for I hate dealing with spider webs and spider there just creapy to me. but to me this way should be better on our wrist also. what do you think.
I will still use a Woodford frostfree
the hose adapter alone is $28!
I would rather just turn off a spigot versus having to hook up and unhook my hose every time I needed to use water.
Personally, I prefer the good old tab. Or even better a "ball tap". You do not need a special adapter to him, so it's a big +.
This thing can be useful if you don't want someone else use your water. Like bad neighbor when you're not at home. Or for commercial applications.
I just cut off my copper pipe indoors and sweated on a PEX nipple and shut off. All that goes outdoors is a PEX pipe to a Pex shut off with standard threads. The plastic pipe doesn't give me freezing problems and should any problem show up it takes about 5 minute to switch out.
This Old House is a far cry from the old Bob Villa days.
There are adaptors for faucets to make it like a originally faucet
So how do you fill up water balloons now? Nothing like a sturdy traditional hose bibb. I'd like to see how long that o-ring will last.
You mean the same oring that's in your spigot except further back? It'll last just as long as it always has.
a normal spigot can be disassembled with some pb blaster, wire brush, a screwdriver, and a wrench.
this thing you have to cut off the dang pipe
What happens when you loose the adapter?
Hi Stangil1, the connector stays attached to your garden hose. In order to lose the connector, you would need to lose your entire garden hose. Replacements are available for $10.99.
why did you cut off the existing copper-to-threaded adapter? All you had to do was unscrew the existing sillcock and screw in the new one, no soldering needed.
That guitar is slapping
That’s pretty slick
Why that shut off is there, had an old one outside.
Wouldnt a better option to be just to cut the pipe rather than the shingle ?
No it wouldn't be easier. Cutting the shingle is correct
How do they leak on the siding?
there's no need to re-invent the wheel... what she had was perfectly fine.
Incredible I love it😎👍
Why is the hose right above the window?
It's funny because the show discusses the need for a faucet that won't freeze. Down here in south Texas we don't get that. Freezing around here is hopeful. But nearly never.
Nice work
Interesting concept, but the water draining out at the end ruined it.
+P0tat07 It does that so no water is left inside to freeze.
+P0tat07 it's supposed to.
i agree. that ending ruined it. its going to leave a water streak on the side of your house eventually. also, you cant get water out without using the hose, which also sucks. lets say you want to fill a bucket with water - you have to get the whole hose from the shed to do that.
Kopsu I'm also concerned about water left in the house, does the hose side quick connect have a valve that stops any water in the hose from draining out? What about when it gets cold out? Either take the hose apart and drain it or let the hose get ruined. Honestly the system is lacking. I do give credit for being a unique idea. But if you really wanted a quick release, use the anti freeze valve and get the quick connects from the plumbing section at your local hardware store
I liked the long one with the knob on it. It works as a standard faucet and prevents freezing by having the washer far back. This concept is unique, but seems like it would be more of an inconvenience.
I live in Houston. We only have to worry about pipes freezing about every 20 years, but it is a serious issue due to the fact our pipes are not buried deep enough on insulated properly in the walls/attic. On the outside faucets I use an insulated protector over them when it is going to be below freezing for a long time.
how can we make a 10¢ project cost thousands? I don't know, let's ask this old house!
+Shaun Smith There's a reason they're on TV
+Shaun Smith At 5:51 they play the "We're makin' bank now" riff.
@Maxid1
LOL!!
Actually, Ask TOH does all their segments at no cost to the homeowner.
Shaun Smith Which part costs thousands? I don't think this will be much more expensive than a regular tap.
Advantage?
I guess the next video at this location will be how the tap rotted the siding with the dribbles after you unscrew the hose. Not a fan of this at all.
A rainstorm will put much more more water on the siding than that hydrant. As long as the hydrant is sealed on the backside where it meets the siding there won't be a problem.
2 AM - It will be sealed...for the two years silicone lasts before drying up and cracking away. After that, forget it.
My dogs will love this!! They love expensive chew toys that cause even more problems than I already had. Just wait til they realize I can no longer give them baths outside.
Thanks for the video
I would not like type of hose end just one more thing to lose or have to carry around just give me the reg frost proof faucet
Nice job
I know people who have these and still have the hose connected because they are annoying to use and then put the hose away later. Also I think it's annoying to use these if u need to fill a bucket or can. You have to go and find the hose and fitting.
I know he used Teflon tape, but isn't it a no-no to connect two dissimilar metals together because of corrosion of the pipes?
Call me old school or whatever, but I prefer a normal faucet. I still remember playing outside in the heat of the summer going to my house or my friends homes and just turning on a faucet and drinking cold water. No hose, no special adapter.. just old school convenience
there have been many good coments about why people don't like this kind of faucet, but really is no one going to complain that he bodged on a tiny stub and coupler to another stub and... just so many connections
interesting design
You got to make sure you keep that special adapter at least now your neighbors can't steal your water LOL
You know she lost that adapter inside of 2 months.
I wouldn't have that water tap, I'd rather have the original one because I'm in control of how I use it
They make a new one, same style as the old only it takes like 75% less turns and still has great control. Its a nice upgrade, I think mine is made in Taiwan but it really works good even when it snows.
***** Oh cool! I think something which I can control is good!
The other nice thing about this concept is that someone else would not be able to hook up and use your outside water unless they had the same type of connection to do so.
Very true, but is it worth it?
Why would you ever not have control of it?
I need that at my house!
Exlant work 👍
Hey who took the hose adapter again
That's pretty neat
Good idea for a commercial building instead of a 4 way faucet key but a little pointless on a house.
Very nice videoooo.
Interesting new approach but I doubt anyone would willingly retrofit an existing home?
My 20 yr old home has 3 50-gallon water heaters - when they started to fail, I looked into moving onto a whole-home tankless water heating system - the est’d cost was about $15K for a 6K sq ft home here in North TX, whereas the cost to just replace the 3 tanks was about $3K... imagine the upgrade economics are similar for a lot of a home’s core systems...
Bad idea. That attachment can get lost and then you have to order a new one and will it still be available for orders 50 years from now?
don't worry it will fail long before 50 years
I just tell people to shut the hose bib off from the shut off inside and leave it on outside during the winter. Never freezes. And for sumner time replace the washer.