Before even watching the video, I can say that during the fight with Mr.1 in Arabasta, zoro's sensei in the flashback gave the same explanation as Hygoro from wano while explaining ADVANCED ARMAMENT haki that a swordsman can't cut paper or leaves when he doesn't want and can cut through stone or metal whenever he wills to. For Conquerers, his ashura version may be an advanced version for Conquerer's haki as kaku said that his spirit is forming 3 heads and spirit is literally Haki. For observation, same thing with mr.1 in the fight.
Man I bet we’ll get a flash back and see garp teaching little luffy all kinds of advanced levels of haki, but luffy was so stupid he just didn’t understand and garp would punish him by throwing him down canyons, forests, tying him to balloons
@zechariahkendallgreen7657 no mean theres not enough usopp, hes literally always friends with the giants and inspiring them, he literally got held by a giant and was called god, his dream is to be a brave warrior of the sea.
Imagine having all three advanced forms of Haki pre time skip and still be a hakiless G2 victim. Couldn’t be me ngl I do find it really funny though, cause I buy he had armament pre time skip and all that, but at the same time imagine having that but still going high diff with so much fodder. Like it’s when people are gassing Enels speed when he was going against a bunch of bums without observation
@@nathanwelling8948 well yeah no shit post time skip Zoro is stronger than Pre Skip Luffy. Keeping up with Luffy’s speed ain’t a feat back than, hakiless Sanji did as well
@kingrippzard2027 Oh, I was talking about pre time skip Sabaody. Even while heavily injured, Zoro was able to keep up with both of them for a short time. Post time skip Zoro is obviously around Bounce Man level.
@@nathanwelling8948 ok calm down Zoro doesn’t even have better feats than Base Luffy. We’ve had this debate many times, I’m not gonna hear you ramble again
is it just me or am i tweakin so if zoro can make six new arms from haki what is stopping shanks from just willing another arm into existing when he needs it?
@@scifitony2676 what do you mean cap, they're people out here think who he can beat beat Luffy, but because I think logically, he will never beat Luffy, because like dark King Raleigh said haki get stronger in extreme battles, luffy's always fighting the captain like kaido, while Zoro is fighting the second strongest, so is strength will always be the second, 🥈.
@@scifitony2676 Zoro gets gassed at straight up every point. A large chunk of people earnestly believe he can take down an admiral. Hes like top 5 most glazed characters.
@@xdrago1051 cap, everyone downscales the crap out of zoro. Anyone who thinks he can kill an admiral is tripping, I’ve never heard anyone who said that. Luffy himself can’t beat an admiral 😭 1. Saying he’s an equal to sanji (lots of people believe this and it isn’t true) 2. Saying zoro would get clapped by luffy pre timeskip and early post timeskip (everyone believes this, it isn’t true zoro was relative to luffy and stronger in some arcs oda said zoro was equal and relative to luffy in power multiple times in databooks) 3. Sanji beats zoro in some arcs (multiple people believe this, and it isn’t true zoro has always been a tier above him) 4. Zoro vs sanji can go either way (this is wrong zoro always beats him in the ranges of low to high diff throughout the series) 5. Downscale of his feats for example, he nearly died against lucci and could barely beat him. This is wrong he one shotted him and blitz him. Blockin conquest of the sea isn’t that impressive. Every character hyped him up it’s a super impressive feat. Zoro gets his conquerors haki from enma, no he doesn’t 6. Zoro gets low diffed by base luffy rn (no he doesn’t, people say just cuz luffy split the sky with kaido he one shots zoro which is wrong cuz we don’t know how strong you need to be to split the sky and we don’t know how strong zoro conq haki is since he fought someone like king who couldn’t showcase just how strong zoro was) 7. Everyone slanders zoro, I’ve only seen zoro slander memes. (I’ve seen a lot of one piece memes)
@@Letsgo1234-iz1dy why u using present tense? i havent watched the video yet but its clear he's referring to early pre time skip and its debatable if they were equal or was zoro stronger than l uffy before he got his gears (cuz that's when I believe L uffy > zoro) but I also believe zoro was stronger than luffy in early post time skip, (the only one in the trio who didn't struggle with any of his opps, almost beat the main opp hordy and didn't get a power up until late wano) ofc now that luffy upped his mastery of haki and has g5 luffy is stronger than zoro
@@M_aak it’s not debatable yes there were close in power but luffy always been stronger. U can believe what u wanna believe u just a glazer u can have an opinion but that don’t mean u spitting facts
Zoro's breath of all things pre time skip is like luffy's coc. Yes, he can use it, and if he used it, he would've beaten enel, but he can't tap into it whenever he wanted.
@@thelastsagecandidate3394 sooooooooo he didn’t have it and or know how to use it but he couldn’t use it at will so either way not stronger than luffy or and of the main villain pts
Did u even watch the video? Even without watching it, there are clear indications zoro could momentarily use all types of haki under different scenarios
@@kingmadridi8125false as stated in the video hyogoro and kyoshiro had the exact same explanation of haki. Meanwhile kaido confirmed ashura is conquerors haki. The text is the text. You can cope if you want to but as oda said its a matter of reading comprehension
Which doesn't make sense since he's shown to have Conquerors haki against both Kaido and King. The SBS cards are weird and shouldn't be taken literally.
Zoro fans who want to upscale him, or Zoro down-players trying to discredit your points, are on their way.
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I feel like Zoro down-players have too much of a presence. That just means room temperature IQ individuals who watch One Piece is increasing
@@tylerjapal5607 no they don’t it’s to many zoro glazers and people up scaling him
@@tylerjapal5607 “down scalers” for Zoro mainly exists because he’s by far the most wanked character in the fandom outside of maybe Shanks
@@kingrippzard2027fr I see people say zoro high diffs big mom and some admirals which obviously isn’t true.
That thumbnail alone is going to cause problems 😅
Before even watching the video, I can say that during the fight with Mr.1 in Arabasta, zoro's sensei in the flashback gave the same explanation as Hygoro from wano while explaining ADVANCED ARMAMENT haki that a swordsman can't cut paper or leaves when he doesn't want and can cut through stone or metal whenever he wills to.
For Conquerers, his ashura version may be an advanced version for Conquerer's haki as kaku said that his spirit is forming 3 heads and spirit is literally Haki.
For observation, same thing with mr.1 in the fight.
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@@SuperiorI.Q haha, on a side note, love the Sanji glazing bro, dude doesn't get enough recognition
Next video he gets more
@@SuperiorI.QW leak. Can't wait
@@SuperiorI.Q we need more Luffy glaze
Man I bet we’ll get a flash back and see garp teaching little luffy all kinds of advanced levels of haki, but luffy was so stupid he just didn’t understand and garp would punish him by throwing him down canyons, forests, tying him to balloons
Actually he was not stupid and he was a kid doing this stuff. So who is the stupid one now.
@@delandoneal8941 luffy, Garp should of punched him harder, turn him into a real marine 👊🏼👨🏼🦳
@@mlgn0sc0p3r5 Should have offered him unlimited meat
0:45 n word slayer 69 crazy 😭🙏my goat shouldn't let this dude be sub to him i want old superioriq back 😭🙏 bro
How we feeling about Elbaf? I just read some spoilers, and I better see side by side scaling consistently…. If yk yk
I dont like it right now currently, not enough usopp.
enel and nami?
@zechariahkendallgreen7657 no mean theres not enough usopp, hes literally always friends with the giants and inspiring them, he literally got held by a giant and was called god, his dream is to be a brave warrior of the sea.
Great video!
As a professional Zoro glazer: Zoro could never beat Luffy, because he is too loyal
Zoros More Loyal To Himself Than Luffy
@@sjcoolinit7076 "Kuma, please kill that monkey. My ambitions to beat a painter ar far more important than the dawn of the world"
And because he’s not stronger?
@@rodneymcstah2973 Debatable
@@sjcoolinit7076 zoro already said he wouldn’t follow anyone he’s stronger than
Imagine having all three advanced forms of Haki pre time skip and still be a hakiless G2 victim. Couldn’t be me ngl
I do find it really funny though, cause I buy he had armament pre time skip and all that, but at the same time imagine having that but still going high diff with so much fodder. Like it’s when people are gassing Enels speed when he was going against a bunch of bums without observation
He was a G2 victim until he got Shusui and trained with it for two years, but he was still able to keep up with Luffy's speed for the most part.
@@nathanwelling8948 well yeah no shit post time skip Zoro is stronger than Pre Skip Luffy. Keeping up with Luffy’s speed ain’t a feat back than, hakiless Sanji did as well
@kingrippzard2027 Oh, I was talking about pre time skip Sabaody. Even while heavily injured, Zoro was able to keep up with both of them for a short time. Post time skip Zoro is obviously around Bounce Man level.
@@nathanwelling8948 ok calm down Zoro doesn’t even have better feats than Base Luffy. We’ve had this debate many times, I’m not gonna hear you ramble again
@@kingrippzard2027 It's not really rambling. I'm just using Zoro's feats in the story to prove that he's superior to base Luffy.
is it just me or am i tweakin so if zoro can make six new arms from haki what is stopping shanks from just willing another arm into existing when he needs it?
What’s Stopping Shanks Is He’s Not Zoro .
It's very much like Zoro to show pre cognigga just to pack him up for being black
Hmmm... it kinda makes sense, if only Zoro apply again the Breath of all things to Enel, he might problably cut him💯
aye finally some Zoro glaze
😂😂😂 what do you mean finally, 50% of One piece fandom is Zoro glazing.
@@NinebalancedGuy cap, everyone downplays zoro
@@scifitony2676 what do you mean cap, they're people out here think who he can beat beat Luffy, but because I think logically, he will never beat Luffy, because like dark King Raleigh said haki get stronger in extreme battles, luffy's always fighting the captain like kaido, while Zoro is fighting the second strongest, so is strength will always be the second, 🥈.
@@scifitony2676 Zoro gets gassed at straight up every point. A large chunk of people earnestly believe he can take down an admiral. Hes like top 5 most glazed characters.
@@xdrago1051 cap, everyone downscales the crap out of zoro. Anyone who thinks he can kill an admiral is tripping, I’ve never heard anyone who said that. Luffy himself can’t beat an admiral 😭
1. Saying he’s an equal to sanji (lots of people believe this and it isn’t true)
2. Saying zoro would get clapped by luffy pre timeskip and early post timeskip (everyone believes this, it isn’t true zoro was relative to luffy and stronger in some arcs oda said zoro was equal and relative to luffy in power multiple times in databooks)
3. Sanji beats zoro in some arcs (multiple people believe this, and it isn’t true zoro has always been a tier above him)
4. Zoro vs sanji can go either way (this is wrong zoro always beats him in the ranges of low to high diff throughout the series)
5. Downscale of his feats for example, he nearly died against lucci and could barely beat him. This is wrong he one shotted him and blitz him. Blockin conquest of the sea isn’t that impressive. Every character hyped him up it’s a super impressive feat. Zoro gets his conquerors haki from enma, no he doesn’t
6. Zoro gets low diffed by base luffy rn (no he doesn’t, people say just cuz luffy split the sky with kaido he one shots zoro which is wrong cuz we don’t know how strong you need to be to split the sky and we don’t know how strong zoro conq haki is since he fought someone like king who couldn’t showcase just how strong zoro was)
7. Everyone slanders zoro, I’ve only seen zoro slander memes. (I’ve seen a lot of one piece memes)
You don't see anyone calling a DF user a master of haki. It's usually swordsman.
Luffy haki > Zoro's
I love how so far in Elbaf Oda has just said f#3k it to powerscaling and is just doing whatever he wants😂
One piece will become a safer place once mfs realize this is the case most of the time
Idk if its that bad if we are talking the call back panel where they all did named attacks, a certain agenda has sunken into the ocean
i think zoro will cut eventually be able to cut seastone.
Yea, its hard not to say it making a Zoro video 😂 1:48
obviously
Finally some Zoro gas
He just glazin
@@Letsgo1234-iz1dyif he’s stating facts then i guess… he’s just glazing😒
@@ChristDTimix he ain’t stating facts zoro isn’t stronger then luffy it looks like I found another glazer
@@Letsgo1234-iz1dy why u using present tense? i havent watched the video yet but its clear he's referring to early pre time skip and its debatable if they were equal or was zoro stronger than l uffy before he got his gears (cuz that's when I believe L uffy > zoro) but I also believe zoro was stronger than luffy in early post time skip, (the only one in the trio who didn't struggle with any of his opps, almost beat the main opp hordy and didn't get a power up until late wano) ofc now that luffy upped his mastery of haki and has g5 luffy is stronger than zoro
@@M_aak it’s not debatable yes there were close in power but luffy always been stronger. U can believe what u wanna believe u just a glazer u can have an opinion but that don’t mean u spitting facts
I see title, i click. Zoro was beastly back then
0:44 Maybe dont thank all of your new subs 😭😭😭
You wouldn’t get it
@@SuperiorI.Q bro someone was literally named "NWORDSAYER". I don't need no thanks because I been here for a minute
lol zoro cool but you bugging
Enel literally clapped if my man had haki he would have won end of story.
Zoro's breath of all things pre time skip is like luffy's coc. Yes, he can use it, and if he used it, he would've beaten enel, but he can't tap into it whenever he wanted.
@@thelastsagecandidate3394 sooooooooo he didn’t have it and or know how to use it but he couldn’t use it at will so either way not stronger than luffy or and of the main villain pts
@@ronlewis1554 Nobody said he's stronger than Luffy
@@adaurysantos literally the thumbnail of the video
he didn't have basic haki let alone advanced versions
Did u even watch the video?
Even without watching it, there are clear indications zoro could momentarily use all types of haki under different scenarios
@@macro8607
not interested in your headcanons , only luffy knew how to use any haki pre time skip
@@kingmadridi8125false as stated in the video hyogoro and kyoshiro had the exact same explanation of haki. Meanwhile kaido confirmed ashura is conquerors haki. The text is the text. You can cope if you want to but as oda said its a matter of reading comprehension
@@kingmadridi8125 and you are completely wrong as well lmao. Even Luffy didn’t know how to properly use haki. Stop making shit up
@@mikeross6767lmao main reason asura had conquerors haki is because enma was being it out
Woro on top
www ofc and I busted ofc 😮💨😮💨😮💨🗣️🗣️🌋🌋🙂↕️✋✋
oda in sbs 109 vivre card confirmed zoro dont have coc
Which doesn't make sense since he's shown to have Conquerors haki against both Kaido and King.
The SBS cards are weird and shouldn't be taken literally.
Stronger than Luffy?!?!?
What if I said yes😳
@@SuperiorI.Q We pushing agendas now superior??
@@SuperiorI.Q
Get him past base Luffy
@@SuperiorI.Qno advanced gear 4 Luffy dismantles him🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Saint.Topmandelusional