Showing The Mormon Church NO MERCY w/ John Dehlin & Carah Burrell
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- On today's episode, me and John Dehlin @mormonstories tackle our top reasons Mormonism falls on its face. No messing around, no games, just one: Jenga. We heard you like metaphors so we got you 54 of them delicately stacked, then SACKED. You'll have to watch and see who wins! (Rationality) And who goes home the loser! (Anyone who can't finish this video masterpiece)
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Some of You don't seem to realize that the Lord speaks from out of Zion in the last days. You must get rid of that accusatory spirit because its not from God.
@@germansliceyikes baby go away you can't be helped here😘
@@kellyreilly-robinson2130
Helped? Oh Sure, I got off the Telestial Level in time to prepare for the coming shift which will be starting soon.
No. I would rather join Fun For Less Tours and I am not a Mormon.
Lol
The way that Mormons aren't allowed to talk about what happens in the temple reminds me of how scientologists aren't allowed to talk about OT3
Except Scientology won't give you any tours of any Holy place without never allowing you to EVER leave. Lol. Thank goodness people can leave the LDS Church and not get gang stalked.
@@jusapoet72 I don't know about that. I gagged it up when I was a teenager a long time ago, and they still show up at my door all the time.
@@jusapoet72 LOL Gang Stalked ?!?
Is that besides online ?
@@jusapoet72 except they do gang stalk. I just want to be left alone. I have many texts from the Elders Qurom president wondering why im inactive and when can they come over a meet with me and my family....
Take a look at the second anointing. Total cult behavior - hidden from regular members and only available to the elites.
I love it when john makes an absolute bombshell statement that blows away all my years of conceptualizing mormonism and being raised in it and then just ends it off with “was that ok?” “I dunno what im saying im just making this up as we go” 😂
@aspenEarthmover - What did I say?!??
@@mormonstories😂😂
You did not show the Corporate Church any mercy and for that I thank you both.
The fact that Jim Henson helped free him from a cult and helped him deconstruct the indoctrination is just so amazing!🧡
Jim Henson makes some amazing movies. I also enjoy the “Am I a man or a muppet” song and think it’s a good metaphor for independent thought.
Thank you for talking about the death oaths we made in the temple that so many active members don't even know about...I can't tell you how much psychic energy and pain I have given to questioning myself of how I could have not so much been duped, but how could I have allowed Me to make those oaths?? If nobody else was willing to protect me, why didn't I protect me? Still beating myself up occasionally over that, and then continuing on in it and raising my beautiful children in it. Why, why, why...? Thank you John Dehlin for speaking so truthfully in a not mean way, you are a superman to me
Congratulation on your growth, so sorry it was abusive.
Superman wore socks. And pease, seek some help. I wish you well
“Why didn’t I protect me?” I relate with this on such a deep level. You’re not alone in feeling this way.
John looks quite youthful today.
It’s dem ankles
It’s like when you shave your head or wear contacts. Everyone is used to seeing the top 2/7s of John.
I miss his beard, tbh.
Great lighting!
I love his voice. I think it is the first time I see his body, lol. Usually, it is only half of his body with a sweater. I like him without beard. He looks younger.
I've finally caught up with you all in the present, after many months chasing old episodes! You both look vibrant and healthy, thank God! Much appreciation for everything you do! I left the church fifty years ago, and I'm.still deconstructing!
Left the Catholic Church 50 years ago, as well and still recovering too. Most difficult/damaging for me was the teachings on sex/women.
when nuancehoe said “do you want to start us off with” I thought she was going to say opening prayer 😂
I did too. 😅
Not hardly
😂😂😂 that would have been hilarious!
My family is pretty devout in their Christian faith and I remember telling my Aunt that by leaving the church I was forfeiting my eternal marriage and she stopped me and asked "What's eternal marriage?" After I explained it to her she said "Sounds like you're in a cult". This was the first time I realized the temple marriage was only being used as a bargaining chip to keep its members in the faith. For context, my grandparents had just passed away and they were not LDS but were very devout in their faith. NO ONE was questioning if they were together in the after life. You don't need Mormonism to hold this belief.
You mean you didn’t wanna tell your family that the lds church is pro family by making sure only .001% of humans who go thru their doors and pay 10% of their money can be together forever ?
😮Yes, and the push that you're to date to marry in the Temple, even though you are over 30 when baptized, live in an area where Mormons are few....long story short...I never married and had children.... I'm so upset, now that I'm questioning the church...I realize now I should have listened to my Catholic mother who said date a good man.... ugh.😢
I left for a similar reason. Sitting in singles ward, I realized how the promise of "family together forever" is only going to be given to a fraction of a percent of humans, and I realized how awful the temple makes Heavenly Father out to be.
Yes. If God can see what's in our hearts, there's no need for a temple works and ordinances checklist to figure out who gets to spend eternity with who. That's not a loving, caring, personal Heavenly Father type of God.
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Matthew 22:30
I'd also add that the consequences of "families can be together forever" is that my family FREAKED out when I left the church and spent YEARS begging, insisting, and guilting me to come back to the church so that we could "be together forever". That shaming is traumatic for the leaver AND causes untold anxiety and sorrow for the believers where they mourn the death of your eternal soul.
Best episode ever! Getting to hear John Dehlin cover all these important topics in one show where he can talk and not hold back is epic!
John always blows me away. I arrived at so many of his same conclusions, after agonizing over the scriptures, praying, scrupulosity and unraveling the programming, with years of tears. I looked at it, for over a decade.
I finally came to understand and see exactly what John put so eloquently into words. This is not a God that holds himself to the love he claims it is all about. Then studying church history and discovering the lies of 'the prophets,' finally freed me from it's oppressive control.
John is my hero, he does so much good by giving people a way to tell their story, a way use logic and reason, and tons of much needed validation!
Cara is able to put hard truths together into words with amazing talent that most people can't do. She cuts to the core of the issue, and reveals what's inside every topic. I love your channel and the guests you have on, revealing truth! Carry on! Cara on! 😁
The Abraham papyrus was the final end for me as well.
Well done John and Cara! Thank you!!
As a non-Mormon I first learned about the Mormon temple ritual of signing with the hands to symbolize slitting the throat and stomach when I read the book "The God Makers" in the mid 1980s. I mentioned this some time later in a conversation with a fellow Air Force Officer who was a Mormon and he said "That is an outright lie!". Well, it turns out after the world was informed of the ritual through the book "The God Makers" ,and the movie by the same name, the Mormon Church removed those rituals so that they could say "we don't do that" . Of course, they never mentioned that they used to do that! It wasn't until I started watching Mormon Stories that I learned the facts about the removal of these Masonic rituals from the temple ceremony.
I was a Mormon. At the time I first went through the temple, the penalties had already been removed from the ceremony. Since we’re not told about the changes in the ceremony (we never talk about the temple, even in our families), I would have absolutely said, “That’s not true!” Because I didn’t know that it was that way before my first exposure to the ceremony. The secrecy around the temple is tenacious, and it’s very possible that as a non-Mormon you know more about the history of the ceremony than a Mormon does. Because also we are taught as Mormons not to view even a little bit of anti-Mormon content. Get all your knowledge directly from the Mormon church.
@@anniehasting1133 It's all about control. The Jehovah's Witnesses are the same, they call it "Apostate Literature" which is totally forbidden to read. When I showed a JW at my door a photocopy of one of their incriminating documents he told me it was faked because they are told if they encounter any anti-JW propaganda that it is all manufactured and from Satan.
One of my absolute favorite collaborations between the two of you. Love the Jenga method. Love the conversation vibe. Love your energy. Love your relationship. Love the way the two of you work together in this format!
Awesome! Thank you!
Almost Mormon here…. Seriously investigated joining. Did all the missionary classes. Then the Cult mom and Chad case hit the news. I started following that case which led me to this channel. I thought the LSD church was just another Christian church but clearly it’s extra….. thus I didn’t join.
If you want a true Bible preaching church I would try a non-denominational one. You want someone that preached from the Bible. J found an absolutely amazing pastor here on TH-cam named Allen Nolan. If you want to understand the Bible and end times ,listen to his playlists. He can make mud sound interesting too.
Tbh, many elements of mormonism that are problematic are the same in all Christianity.
You really dodged a bullet there ... (and 100 times more so if you are female).
You may have literally saved the lives of your children (or future children), with that one decision to walk away from the mormon church.
@@raincoathaveli Refuging to any form of Christianity will cause more religious trauma.
Late but I laughed at lsd church.
Instead of the “broken shelf” it could the falling Jenga Tower
this is accurate
It's amazing how little LDS members truly know about their own church. Between Kara, John and the other ex-mormon channels, I've learned more than I ever did sitting in 3 hours of church a week. And I'm very glad my children don't have to be fed all the lies and fabricated history. They'd rock the boat anyway...I've taught them to be free thinkers and seek knowledge for themselves.
Your taught to not look up information from other-than-church sources! That's why most members don't know much about the cult. They only know what the cult wants them to know! That's how they keep membership (and control) of the faithful.
I recommend watching this at least until close to the end when the Jenga tower falls, even though John is sitting there trying to hold it together (which one doesn't do while playing Jenga normally), then he gives up and brushes the rest of the rubble off the table. What a metaphor for a faith transition LOL.
About 12 years old, looking up in the redwoods at a youth camp, I suddenly realized it was false and I had no feeling/connection/love in those settings. Just some shame, abuse, and little of loving thy neighbor. I’m 62 and haven’t looked back. Culturally, it was tough to be non-bible believer. Great content on this channel!
You subscribe to atheism now?
@@firecloud77you don’t have to be an atheist to not believe in the Bible. There are hundreds of other religions and theologies. Further proof by the way that man has no idea what the truth is
Baptist here.
My bestie joined, moved to Utah, (Utah Mormons were a different breed) left the church and moved back a year later.
I remember in seminary, the most distressful lesson we ever had was when we were learning about the thee days of darkness in the Book of Mormon. We came in to a room with all the windows covered with paper so no light could get in and was played a track in that darkness of lightning and earthquakes splicing up the main sound on the track which was literally babies crying until Jesus’s voice was heard talking about how we made it for being righteous.
Every one of my friends I talked to talked about how incredibly spiritual it was. I was the only one (at least openly) who found it disturbing and did not feel the spirit.
“Does god use his sphincter?”
-John Dehlin
2024
I vividly remember as a 5 year old very personable and all believing child while visiting my grandparents in Southern Utah, going to Sunday School and learning about the “mark of Cain”. It felt so wrong at such a young age and it still bothers me at the age of 68 how horrible that statement and memory is. I’m grateful I saw the light and was able to leave the church at a relatively young age. Love this podcast John and Cara. Keep up the great work to enlighten people.
You were so blessed to know at a young age. I was 54 and a recent widow and I’ve not looked back but good for you. You saved yourself a ton of stress heartache and further indoctrination
What do Mormons believe? I'm non-denominational and we were taught it was a born given to him by GOD so no one kills him. When I was a kid we had the rapture and I thought I was gonna wake up some day and my parents and brothers would be gone. It scared me so bad I had insomnia for a long time and still do sometimes.
Late reply but, the mark of Cain is black skin.
I’m so used to seeing John at the podcast desk. All this ankle is throwing me off 😂
I love this John!!!! Lately he has been on fire and not holding back and I love it. It’s time to stop trying to beat around the bush and call a spade a spade! Fantastic episode guys!
hellz yess
Man making calling is something that broke me when I was in a bishopric. It was just the three of us trying to fill callings with what we knew about people. Often being shot down because the bishop knew stuff.
I love seeing John get ANIMATED!!! This felt like him letting loose! I found your channel from Mormon Stories and so happy you two sat down for this. More of this please!!!
This was amazing!! I really enjoyed feeling the energy and passion from both of you throughout the episode!! Well done, though good and faithful servants!!
Am I Mormon? No. Have I ever been Mormon? No. Have I been watching you and John together and separately for years, yes. So. Nice to see you back together for this episode.
Same here. 👋 Never mormon, watched mormon stuff on TH-cam for years. (Helped me to break up with Lutherian church about 2 years ago. Learning about cults and other churches has helped and still helps with deconstruction of my religion.)
Just got to know about 6 months ago, we have distant family members (3rd cousins of my mum or something like that) that are mormons. I will be probably babtised after I die as my close relative has investigated our family tree heavily and provided that information also to them. If I could, I would kindly say "No, thank you. I don't want to be babtised. I am in express train towards outer darkness already." 😁
I have thought about a lot of what John said over the years and just wasn't able to let it flow.
Thanks John for BRINGING IT!
I initially left because I had stopped growing, despite all my efforts, studying, praying, serving, etc. It was a torturous decision, because I felt that I was giving up my salvation, but I just couldn’t keep feeling so stagnant. I was open to going back for quite awhile, though. Then, I did a master’s degree in Spanish, and, as I learned more about the history of the ancient civilizations of the Americas, I realized the Book of Mormon simply isn’t true-the non-existent “reformed Egyptian” and the indigenous languages having no connection to Egyptian at all, the ancestral DNA of the indigenous peoples clearly not from the Middle East, the animals in the Book of Mormon that didn’t exist in the Americas during those times, zero references to words or peoples remotely similar to nephites or lamanites, the dates of when people actually arrived to the Americas, etc. I used to believe that Satan wanted to cover up or corrupt all the evidence that would prove the Book of Mormon. At some point I had to grow up, think a little and understand that a conspiracy of that magnitude is too farfetched to be true. It felt like a huge loss when I did, but overall I’m a more fulfilled and loving person after leaving. :)
When John was talking about the Temple....i had the same thoughts, when i first went..
I also thought... God wouldn't have things for us to do that feel weird.....
"Thank you very much, Mormon Prophets, Seers and Revelators, we can do without your noise." Well Said!
This was great. Always good to refresh my ammo so I’ll be ready at anytime if a TBM wants to tango 🤣
So well said! Carah is better than any modern day prophet. FOLLOW THE CARAH!
She knows the way!
She’s not a prophet! She’s a very naughty girl!
👍🏻 At least she tries to tell the truth! Doesn’t try to manipulate.
Absolutely love this episode! Need to do this again.
I like this format with the graphics on the screen and the laid in clips, reminds me of Pop Up Video!!
I’m never Mormon, but I love ur shows.I’m Christian, Southern Baptist
Thank you John You been here for the longest helping and we're making huge strides everywhere and all the religions thank you John.
"I've thought of you and Tay-Tay as indistinguishable."
"Thank you, I've always wanted you to say that"
😂😂😂
Two very intelligent and eloquent people.
This was the slowest and most entertaining game of Jenga I’ve ever watched 😂 I love it
I'm deconstructing evangelical Christianity. This was really helpful even though I've never been LDS.Thanks Carah and John!
You can only talk about the temple IN the temple. But only in the celestial room of the temple because it's so sacred. But you should also not talk too loud or too much in the celestial room because that's not reverent. You also shouldn't hang out in the celestial room too long... so basically, just don't talk about it.
I loved this summary! Thank you, Carah and John!
smith got the rock from a witch?? 🤣 that's amazing i love It
I LOVE this more relaxed setting for you both, I think it suits you well! Keep up the good work!
Something about personal revelation they didn't touch on was the gaslighting effect of whether or not you get the personal revelation you are "supposed to" get. For example, if you don't get an answer at all or get an answer that's contrary to what the church has deemed the response that makes them right/true, then "you are the problem"; there's something wrong with you. The church can move the goal post all they want with truth claims, etc. but there's no room for the actual members to feel things that don't align.
The other thing that is related to that is the fact that they say you have personal revelation, but they also say that "surely the lord god will do nothing save he revealeth his secrets to his servants the prophets". Which one is it? Who does god communicate with and give revelation to again? Individuals, or prophets?
I'm a recovering Catholic and my parents met and married due to a cult.. so this stuff is very interesting and adjacent to my journey.. from uber religiosity searching in my teens.. to early momma hood wanting my kids to have the safety and comfort of faith to divorce from a man who really is a woman and now is doing their own reconstruction of sorts; to now second marriage for me to an agnostic and now at almost 50 I am questioning everything.. nothing in churches passes the mothers love test for me.. which means, If a faith/church can't show and act like a loving parent ALL of the time.. it does not pass. and omg.. none of them pass. NONE. it doesn't fit. God is supposed to be fully all powerful and loving.. so here I sit.. spinning faith falling down the drain.. its world altering.. shaking me to my core tbh
Well that is a “test” that you made up arbitrarily so I wouldn’t put too much stock in it if I were you
Why do you need Church to praise God? Let the physical buildings go and just enjoy being saved through Christ and let God's grace wash over you, you deserve it
Prayers for you…..keep seeking the true Jesus….He will always be ther with open arms!! From a mom of 5 who gets it! I don’t rely on the “perfect” church but I do attend and serve and grow in my faith reading the Bible! Keep seeking Him! ❤️🙏🏽❤️. He loves you with unconditional love!
I got married at 17. The best guy ever! The temple? A waste of time!
Good for you!!!
Quite possibly my favorite TH-cam episode ever. You both are amazing.
The “personal revelation” talk was great. Never tought about it.
1:36:25 Little jewish correction here- not sure if i misunderstood John but just for the record, Jews do not believe that there is anyone who is the mouthpiece of God or who is in conversation with God right now, and that there hasn’t been since the time of the Torah. Jews also do not believe that Moses was white. Love yall ❤
What about the moshiac Shmeerson
Dehlin doesn’t know a lot about religion outside Mormonism; frequently gets things wrong.
You should find a good Christian pastor and discuss the Trinity with him. It really is beautiful and the Truth will set you Free. Love you guys.❤❤
My son asked a counselor one time “Does god have a penis?” The counselor thought this was a sure sign that he was some kind of pervert, when all he was doing was trying to get the counselor’s goat by talking about Mormon god’s physical body. It’s a valid question and it made me laugh
Jonh! I love you! It’s nice to see you supporting people like a father for them. Xoxo from Layton.
I just turned 88 and left the church when I was 50.
It's the best decision that I have ever made. I had my name removed from the rolls of the LDS Church and they sent me a letter that said I have lost my soul
I love God and became a Christian and at the age of 88 I know I Will die soon because of the grace of Jesus Christ I will be with God.
50:23 the rock in a hat method used to be characterized as anti-Mormon propaganda. Now Nelson gaslights members with “Oh yeah. It’s always been this way.”
I love your content! I have never been Mormon but knew many Mormon’s while in the military community. I could never wrap my head around their faith and I thought maybe I was the problem. The information you, Mormon Stories, etc provide have clarified how my confusion and disbelief were justified lol
I had John's same exact experience when I watched Disney's The Muppets (2011). I remember thinking at the time "that's really too bad that this kids movie gave me just as strong of a feeling (hair raising, goosebumps, a rush of energy through my spine) as my spiritual witness of the Book of Mormon."
Dehlin is on fire, hits all the high points....good rant John!!!! GO CARAH....
Mormon missionaries told me that my previous baptism "didn't count".
My husband was raised Mormon but I was not. He is not currently active in the Church but still believes it to be the true church. I was baptized on Easter Sunday at age 14 by my step-grandfather (aka Grandpa) who was a retired Southern Baptist preacher. I was raised in a very dysfunctional & abusive home by alcoholics. I never attended church until my new Grandpa saw my situation then began taking me. He lovingly picked me up every Sunday morning starting at age 12 w/ donuts in hand so that I would have breakfast. He & I would go to the church service & Sunday School together & then out to lunch. (Mostly to Blackeyed Peas restaurant b/c Grandpa loved their sugar snap peas & black eyed peas.) Just the two of us. After this I would go back to he & my step-grandmother's home where I napped on the couch while he watched football. I felt so safe. (The sound of football still makes me sleepy sometimes.) Grandpa had both Parkinson's & a heart condition but was still faithful on Sundays. When I was 15 or 16 his Parkinson's got too bad for him to drive so he let me drive us to church in his car. Such a gentle & loving man. I can't imagine going through life w/out all these Sundays taught me & nourished me. Sundays w/ Grandpa were very, very special. I wish I had more of them.
Once Mormon missionaries learned that my husband was a member per se they were always coming by our home. I found it so hurtful when they said that my baptism by a very godly man on Easter Sunday "didn't count" b/c my Grandpa didn't have the priesthood authority. I felt God's presence during that baptism so for me, it counted.
Yours definitely counted more than theirs ever would IMO. LDS is a cult
@@merricat3025 😊
Thank you guys for speaking truth. It’s something that I have yet to find speaking with mormons
John looks like his name could be Kyle and he says bro a lot 😂 Good discussion by both of you.
🤣🤣🤣
This is the crossover I've been waiting for! John on YOUR show!!! I'm obsessed (in the most healthy, respectful way) with both of you!!! 💙💙💙
My shelf was breaking in highschool while my parents were secretly working through my Dad having an affair and being excommunicated. I was the only one of my siblings who knew. In church one day I realized kind of like John that all the times I thought I felt the "spirit" that I was just feeling love. And I had those same spiritual experiences in my every day life and still do now that I left the church again. Left after highschool. Came back after my divorce. And left again. But I still feel that love every day!
I’m what he said at 5:35 and “investigate the Church” after I had two well dressed and well behaved young men knocking on my door earlier this week. I am a Christian and Swedish and Mormons are rare here, but I liked the missionaries and, yeah.. here I am.
RUN! The mormon church does not have a patent on God. My brother went on a mission to Sweden. Your soul may feel the call to develop itself and connect on a soul level a belief system, but I highly suggest it is not the mormon church. I am glad you are here and good luck!! -sincerely a generationally born mormon who is lucky to have gotten out.
Love when you and John collab!!
Love the genuine, heartfelt energy between the two of you 🌻🌼💖
Your speaking words from my own mind and soul and couldn't have agreed more with everything said on the pod today. Love you both. If anything you are speaking revelations from "God" the real truth and are bringing the light to the dark corners that aren't discussed ❤😅
Loved this collab! The topic? YES…
But just getting to witness John and Carah’s brilliant minds and wit go at it on screen, is just fun and always enlightening. Thanks guys!
I hope this video travels far and wide. Excellent informative piece👌🏻💖
Awwww stahppp 📢🥰
Can not Thank you enough for your approach and understanding. I am Catholic who has mormon friend and can't seem to understand them. I respect but No I won't believe ever what they say or believe. I listen to learn from thoes who were once Mormon. Thanks for your truth. God bless you and keep conversation going.
50 years of LDS living and after truly, studying the faith I realized it was false! 4th generation. Back to Joseph Smith, many polygamist on all sides of my family, be raised literally across the street from the Mesa Arizona temple. And now live in North Carolina as a biblical theology Christian. The reasons you have stated are all the reasons I had my name removed from the church. I have listened to many podcasts and by far this is the best! Keep going...
Grew up in Mesa too. Also have polygamists in my background. Enjoy your life that is more free now.
Yo fui conversa, fui a la misión y ahí me di cuenta de todo lo que estaba mal en iglesia, tanto que me enfermé en la misión y me regresaron a casa, no recibí atención médica mientras estuve en la misión. Me diagnosticaron estrés post traumático .
Decidí dejar la iglesia por muchas cosas, ya no lo pude soportar pero también por que si alguna vez tenía hijos, de ninguna manera dejaría que fueran parte de la iglesia mormona.
Gracias John y Carah por hablar de estos temas, por revelar todas estas absurdas creencias.
Después de escuchar Mormón Stories me siento en paz por que se que yo tenía razón cuando decidí dejar la iglesia y no fue debilidad.
Without the theft and fairytale thinking of these priesthoods they don’t have a cult
Dang, this was one helluvan episode.
This is the first time watching your show and I think it’s great that you are having so much success. It’s wonderful that there is someone like you who is bubbly, playful and presents a little less serious who will attract younger people/families. It’s obvious you are knowledgeable about the church and I enjoy listening to you share your knowledge. Were you angry when you found out the church was based on nothing but lies? Did you go out and do all of the things you had been forbidden to do? I left the church years ago and am so grateful I have access to programs like you and John provide.
My husband works for Dr. Parkinson! Haha, that's so funny to hear he is the one who told John about the Book of Abraham. Love it!
"God" bless John Dehlin. His honesty is so REFRESHING!!!
A really great podcast. Love watching you and John together. You compliment each other very well.
thank you!
You can see how proud John is of her in every shot.
Poor = crazy… we’re bringing the Mormon back with this promo, John, haha
Favorite podcast of you both. Facts and Fun. Thank you!
John Dehlin, in reference to your mention of your never-Mormon audience: I am one of them and I thought about what it is that draws me to this content. I think for some of us who have deconstructed from evangelical Christianity, there is very little supportive content out there that exists in the way you present it. There are a number of excellent ex-vangelical channels and creators, and they do a great job of discussing the intellectual / logical issues (which is certainly important). But you approach the topics of deconstruction and religious trauma in a way that is simultaneously intellectual, relatable, vulnerable, and supportive. You have a way of making me feel “seen” through your interviews with other people.
While it’s true that I can’t relate to the “Mormon” elements of these stories, I CAN relate to many of the underlying themes of guilt, shame, spiritual abuse, and struggling with big existential questions that go un-answered by church leaders.
So thank you for everything you do! Your impact is far-reaching, and we appreciate you!!
John , you are the voice of so many who will never speak out
Even if they know it’s false .
Thank you for speaking the truth . The truth is not easy to hear , but necessary for being able to move in a direction that will help us to make the right choices to be living our best lives . It is along process it doesn’t happen over night
Like me I came out of Mormonism 5-6 years ago I’m 59 .
I’m so grateful to be free from those chains that kept me down for so long .
I still believe in a higher power
He made all things he is all powerful All knowing .
He is the God of Israel The one true God , he alone is God .
The God of our salvation .
I am studying the Hebrew Bible
It is nothing short of amazing
Have a blessed day ♥️
Carah is so cool and smart, I’m a bit intimidated but I can’t stop listening and trying to learn!!
Great chemistry on the podcast today. Kudos to John Dehlin for trusting other female partners after being betrayed by Jen Kamp. Go Nuancehoe 👏
Joh, please for the future more carefully vet your assistants.
How fun to see John on YOUR turf!!!!
So good. Everything you state is based on facts, science, history, and Mormon teachings.
Thanks for speaking truth. You are doing a good thing by raising awareness.
its not truth its opinion
The LDS church has to perform all their ordinances and rituals perfect to the letter, every hair gets dunked, every word said must be correct, BUT,
when it comes to Communion they use tap water and leavened wonder bread instead of the fruit o the vine and unleavened bread.
Number 11
Pride that develops over the years and we arrogantly set ourselves above everyone else .
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So true
i wish i could go back to greece with y'all 😭 unfortunately since i've been living in the eu, i have to leave the schengen area for a full 180 days after i go home in july. otherwise, i would so be considering it! sounds like so much fun!
😂😂... The South Park episode where the followers threatened to drown themselves the reflection pool unless they can get tax exam status ...
Anyone who left THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, rebellious, refused to keep the commandments repent from personal sins, or ignorance.
Thank you for you candar and your kind words indeed it dose cut deep and quick and the truth will set us free
Nuancehoe I see your wicked plan to drop nonstop INCREDIBLE content right before you leave to keep us all waiting on tenterhooks for your return! for shame and please don’t stop!
Look what I can do with DEADLINES! 😂💯🤟🏻
@@CarahBurrellNuancehoe will return from The Mediterranean speaking and writing Re-Formed Greek. Spoiler Alert: Carah is leading a tour to The Geek Islands not the Greek Islands. She will reverse necro-dunk Gilligan, Maryanne, and the Skipper too.🤣
Atheist here who likes learning about what motivates people to understand that faith is not the way to truth.
Same, just stumbled upon her channel via algorithm and it’s very interesting to listen to.
A never mo here that fell into morman stories through the youtube algorithm and branched off here.
Me too. 😂 Came across Alyssa Grenfell through the algorithm, then Mormon stories and now so many other ex mormon channels. I even bought Alyssa's book. It's brilliant. Read it cover to cover, and I don't have a religion.
As a Christian, I always love when people portray Jesus as a white man... 🙄🤨 Yet he was from the Middle East... Totally adds up. 🙄
He was Jewish so who knows
“At least he told them to boil their water. No wait, that was science.” Literally made the most ungodly cackle 😂😂😂
Can’t listen to MSPC, but this is gold. It’s nice to see John fired up and more genuine than his platform.