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- In the world of sports nutrition, a constantly evolving field, more and more athletes are adopting low-carbohydrate diets. Especially in the case of long distance endurance racing, an aerobic-heavy activity, wouldn't it make sense that athletes could benefit from being fueled by fat vs. carbohydrates?
This is a popular debate with conflicting evidence and anecdotes presented from both sides. In this podcast, we capture the personal story from a former Ironman Champion: Pete Jacobs. He's not a carbohydrate athlete, nor a traditionally ketogenic one...Pete is purely fueled by meat.
Pete has faced a life-long battle with his personal health. Ever since he found it nearly impossible to get his heart rate up during high school sports, along with rough bouts of fatigue and gut issues, he knew he was facing an uphill battle. Although he marched on to successfully pursue a sporting career, Pete has struggled in the health department as he pushed his bodily limits in the performance department.
With intuition that the core root cause was linked to his metabolic health, Pete gave the ketogenic diet a spin. He saw notable progress, but eventually found his nutritional calling to be one (or two) steps further...
The carnivore diet.
In this episode, you'll discover:
Why the carnivore diet worked for Pete and what health issues were corrected (bye bye leaky gut!)
What Pete eats: Organ meats, seasons with salt but no pepper, what animals he's tried, and more
Tips for endurance performance: Using ketone esters & caffeine, the power of positive mental reinforcement, and applying endurance ideals to normal life
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Carnivore for over a year now. The BEST i've ever felt. Hands down.
Are you an athlete as well? If so, I'd love to hear more about your experience.
Yeah, are you an athlete?
@@malibération Yeah, i've boxed over 10 years to a competitive level.
I just started this , and i am a mountain biker ,and my 1st ride i could barely do 10 miles without totally no energy, what can i do to increase my energy?
@@lastname1386 Same. I'm a swimmer and it's hard to keep a good pace or swim long distances on carnivore. I hope someone can provide more insight on how to be successfully athletic as a carnivore.
Wow! 😲
If skin tone and composition are any indicator of internal health, Mr. Jacobs is incredibly healthy.
I can relate so much to how he felt/symptoms until carnivore. I appreciate this interview. Thank you.
Hi
I had severe allergies all my life and even stopped training. With carnivore im training again. I cut all dairy to feel really good. So it is just meat and tallow for me. I added the tallow and electrolytes so i feel good.
Four months in carnivore without cheating. Years on and off.
For endurance imo three things are essential: eat more fat, enough meat (i eat like 2kg of meat day), electrolytes (salt, potassium, magnesium).
Something im learning it takes a long time to adapt. People say seven months, one year, two years.
I feel im improving day by day. Just zone 2 training so i can get my fitness back. I was really out of shape and some overwheight.
Lost already 6kg and feeling great. Im watching this video for the third time.
One thing to mention, im not sure if i ever will be able to run as fast as i did on keto (before covid). But i know if it wasn't because of carnivore i would never be able to run again. So im already winning.
Im hoping i will, cause of some people related. I follow pete on strava and man, he is fast. Looks like he is really adapted now. The guy is a machine.
it would be nice to know when and how many meals he eats and the sice of each meal relative to what he eats in a whole day? Some ppl carnivore/keto swear to only eat in the evning and not eat before training.
Wondering what types of meats are eaten to fuel long runs and races.
YES Dr. Paul Mason is brilliant. Can’t wait to see how carnivore works out for him. 23 months for me now, but I am not a performance athlete. Also dumped coffee and cocoa for max benefits. Coffee also over lights my pre frontal cortex. I mostly do fatty beef, collagen, bone broth, beef trimmings in pressure cooker to save money. Not much pork or chicken. Plenty of pink salt. Recovery times from hard training are excellent on carnivore. Liver damage often associated with fructose and seed oils apart from the obvious carbs and alcohol.
Why do you think that coffee and cocoa are detrimental? Zero evidence for either. In fact, evidence leans towards the positive.
@@mello.b3373 There is plenty of evidence for both, but I'm not going to try to change your unscientific, paranoid, viewpoints.
@@mello.b3373 If you knew me and my scientific and technical accomplishments, you'd have to retract that. There's a fair chance that I knew the points you make before you existed. End.
Hey what do you mean by "over light prefrontal cortex" ?
Never heard this before 🥺
Bouffe mon 4 over stimulates the rational thinking but not in a useful way, it makes me dogmatic. It’s now over 3 years that I am carnivore. Life for me is still better without plants including caffeine
No surprise he looks amazingly healthy too.
Carnivores always look mean and lean
Lovely to hear a fellow aussie who is an athlete on a meat based diet. We need more out there coming forward.
Now let’s see a carnivore win the iron man, Tour de France or break any of the running distance records. It will never happen as long as there is other riders who fuel with carbs. Athletes are taking in more carbs then ever now and are able to push their body’s harder for longer.
Clown, this video was made to show that endurance sports can be done on Carnivore. No one claimed you would win the Tour de France or Boston marathon on carnivore. Go back in moms basement
In the south the obesity epidemic is shocking. I am watching great Ken burns 3 part doc on Prohibition that has all this great old footage of tons of people dancing etc at speak easys in the 1920’s. No body is fat. Except Al Capone, the kingpin Of Chicago. ..and that’s a lot of alcohol they drank!
Something definitely changed. And this was WAY before Ancel keys and the cholesterol anti-saturated fat propaganda took over. Before the 1960s processed food revolution.
Yes, and people were generally prosperous in the 1920s. Obesity levels in the U.S.A. remained fairly stable through the 1960s and into the 1970s. After the nutritional guidelines were issued by the USDA, that is when obesity rates shot up. (We should all be asking ourselves why the government, and why the department of agriculture is telling people what to eat?)
Fake lard was introduced by Proctor & Gamble as Crisco around 1911, though in spite of advertising, many people continued to cook and bake with the traditional animal fats they had always used. Rendered lard still makes the flakiest pie crusts and tastiest baked goods.
McDonald's proliferated in the 1960s and 70s, but their beef was beef, the buns did not have all the additives they do now., the Coke was made with real sugar instead of HFCS, and the fries were fried in beef tallow.
Nina Tiecholtz, an investigative reporter, wrote the book 'Big Fat Surprise' on how the demonization of natural fats parallels the increase in consumption of sugar and starch and 'vegetable' (really seed) oils - and perfectly tracks the increase n obesity, and the rise in Type 2 diabetes. Coconut oil, as a saturated fat, was also considered harmful, to the point that if you wanted to buy it to use in food, you had to buy it for use on skin or hair. Nina on 'Vegetable Oils - The Unknown Story th-cam.com/video/Q2UnOryQiIY/w-d-xo.html
Jefferdaughter yes. I love Nina! I’ve seen that video. Great one.
Really enjoyed this content thank you got a lot out of it!
Did my first ride today after 3 weeks of carnivore. Feel amazing. So much energy I’m almost dizzy. Did 1.5 hours at 85%. I feel light, limber. Fast. Ordinarily I’d eat 80-100 grams carbs per hour. I nibbled on a cliff bar, maybe 10 grams of carbs per/h avg. And that’s all. Was 20 hours fasted(just following hunger signals). Amazing. Hungry now but!
I do love a coffee with double cream or bulletproof. However, I'll happily not have coffee for a week or so with no issues. As long as that's the case I'll enjoy it for the moment unless I notice problems associated with its use.
Great talk. Have him come back once he wins some championships while carnivore.
Point taken. Yet, like all athletes, Jacobs is more in tune with his body than the average person. He changed his diet while training, and is still training on a carnivore diet. This level of physical exertion is far, far beyond what the average person will ever do. And likely beyond what the recreational athlete will do, too. So his experience is of interest.
Have you heard Dr. Stephen Phinney, MD, PhD talk about the husband and wife rowing team he advised on diet, the team that won a long-distance competition rowing from Calif to Hawaii? Phinney and Jeff Volek, PhD have done quite a bit of research with athletes in nutritional ketosis. They found definate advantages for endurance athletes.
@@Jefferdaughter I'll look for that information for sure!
I guess that sarcasm and meaning in between the lines are too common these days but I didn't try to express disbelief in my post.
I just want a follow up with this if/when he starts winning.
Being a Carnivore myself a month shy of a year and getting some incredible benefits I like to see people in other parts of life getting benefits from this way of eating. Not only health benefits but performance as well.
My nightly HRV is soooaarriinng according to my Garmin since coming to carnivore compared to “gym chick” diet of chicken breast, veg, and “clean carbs” before. NOW it’s eggs, sardines and BEEF cooked in butter. And wow dropped edema I didn’t know I had, sleeping quality greatly increasing, and yes my HRV really going up. My average was over 100ms last night for the first time ever 😮any other athletes out there that follow this measurement experience this??
Was carnivore for 90 days tried to go back to just eating everything in moderation and training,and that made me feel miserable so I’m back 100% carnivore for the unforeseeable future.that little 4 day break I felt bloated and miserable.
Very informative! Learned heaps!
Pete you are inspirational athlete. A great holistic approach to ironman triathlon. It is a journey to enjoy. Enjoy the moments Pete. Thanks for sharing these experiences. See you on the podium in Kona 2020
I have psoriasis and doing carnivore. Getting better slowly and I feel fantastic! Also my teeth and gums have got stronger
I have some serious problems from coffee, but I have narrowed it down from the coffee itself rather than the caffeine. Decaf makes me feel just as bad but I feel great on caffiene pills.
Yes same here man. It sucks the moisture out of my skin and gives me a wired feeling . Sometimes sick too. When on the S.A.D diet I drank about 20oz of coffee a day. I think your body knows whats bad for you but with carbs and sugar covers that up and mask it.
Same
I like seeing pre airpod video. Ahh, the good old days:)
Interesting coming from an endurance athlete.
This started off well, but then veered off into the weeds. Oxalates in black pepper? All 10mg's that you might ingest? Flu shots/leaky gut? Wow.
Good point, the small amount of pepper most people use makes it seem unlikely that the oxalate content would be a problem. It sounds more like a food allergy. It would be interesting to know if he also reacts to white pepper, which is reportedly significantly lower in oxalates.
Of course, a leaky gut allows food to pass out of the gut undigested, which can certainly cause the body to react to foreign proteins. Glyphosate is one of the substances strongly implicated in leaky gut syndrome, and is well demonstrated to devistate the gut biome. This is likely to be one of the reasons that grains can be so problematic for so many people, since increasing amounts of glyphosate are being used when the grain is ripe, to speed drying of the grain in the field by killing the plants. The chemical companies have asked for, and gotten, several increases in the amount of allowable chemical residues on grains over the past several decades.
Whatever the original cause, once leaky gut is in place... even small amounts of foods can trigger reactions, as you know.
Oxalates are just one of many substances plants create that can be a problem when we eat them. Dr. Eric Berg, DC 'Plants Don't Like to be Eaten; Thus the Anti-Nutrients'
Dr. George Diggs, PhD 'Food Plant Toxins in an Evolutionary Context' th-cam.com/video/fnjX3cZ4q84/w-d-xo.html
Injecting foreign substances, including foreign proteins from pathogens, chemicals, and metals like aluminum used as an adjuvant to stimulate a stronger response from the immune system (and mercury in the multi-dose vials) - these things do create systemic inflammation that often becomes chronic. The medical profession is recognizing more and more that chronic inflammation is the root of most non-infectious diseases.
Dr. Suzanne Humphries is a physician, internist and nephrologist who never questioned vaccines, until she questioned whether her acutely ill kidney patients should be getting vaccines in the hospital. The strange responses she got to her question led her to look into the history, efficacy, and effects of vaccines: 'Dissolving Illusions: The Information You Wish You Had Known' th-cam.com/video/DkNmMHyWGNg/w-d-xo.html
Caution - do not watch with an open mind if you prefer the blue pill. :-)
"chunky" pepper is indigestible, goes right through you.
Curious as to what year Pete went carnivore. I’m guessing it was AFTER winning Hawaii Ironman which means during that time he was probably high carb like all of the other top elite endurance athletes are from multi sport to running to cycling. It’ll be interesting to see if there will ever be the BEST on a carnivore diet. As of yet that hasn’t happened. It’ll also be great when these ketone esters become more reasonably priced.
Thank you for sharing. This is very interesting to watch and listen to.
18:45 yeah slippery elm is good stuff
ehhh, I wish this interview had given me more confidence in the carnivore diet for athletic performance.
Why? He didn’t win his Ironmans while he was on carnivore. Non of the world records in running or swimming are fueled by carnivore or Keto, none of the Tour de France athletes are on carnivore. Puzzling conclusion to come to from one ex champion who says he feels better vs virtually all of elite endurance athletes
Carnivore didn't work for me on the long distance training 😱
Me too. Going low carb killed my running times and long distance mojo. But I think the health benefits may outweigh slower running times….
@@Dermsurg1 yeah I use carbs for training days and I use low carb on rest days. Works better for me. Should remain healthy enough eating carbs with an active lifestyle 💪
Take up sprint events
No
Discard
Oh wow I was following Ken Ware’s work with tremor therapy, great to hear this take on flow States in healing. Ocean SUP training works for me sometimes. Enlightenment is perhaps living beyond the reach of personal preferences, letting go those permanently is very rare, flow States are glimpses.
Wait did he become a champ from being on the Carnivore diet? Doesn’t sound like it. It spunds like he was a champ once then later went on the Carni diet. Because straight up, I’ve been loooong endurance training for a while and have a healthy regular diet. However sometimes I water fast and find myself not being able to push as hard as long as when I eat. So when I decided to try Carnivore, it felt exactly like how it feels when fasting during training. Carnivore is great for losing weight but, nah performance wise in endurance work, its bullshit.
If carnivore diet was a performance benefit then the record breaking runners and Tour de France athletes would surely be on it. I like how people refer to Zach bitter anytime I bring this up as the example of a record breaking runner when he actually admits that he uses gels in his races and he races the ultras which is a slow burn
Wow! Super awesome interview!!!
"Ketone Ester is so expensive". Boy, you are not joking........come on HVMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is his recommendation to eat on long distance?
Sugar
Does anyone else think there is a link between RH Negative blood type and needing the Carnivore Diet. Food allergies run in my family and so does RH Negative. I'm just wondering if there are any others that have both?
I am RH Negative and can't tolerate anything other than meat and A2 milk. It would be great to get some data/research on this.
As far as everyone who studies this understands, at the moment there is no evidence or hint for that. But that does not mean it is impossible, but right now: Not really.
@@towhee7472 I realize there are no studies but I'm noticing this pattern. I think it would be an easy check to survey the Carnivore community. I'm not saying it's exclusively Rh Negative. We are much more rare, so why would I be noticing this higher occurrence among Carnivores? Some people are Carnivore because they want to be. But of those who are Carnivore because We Have to be, I want to know the ratio. The Rh Negative blood will attack it's own baby (2nd) if it is positive. I'm wondering if this type is more likely to have hyper-immunity? Is that a word? Why is the food we eat cause for the body to launch an attack? Those of us who have a ridiculous number of sensitivities (I can't even have chicken, lamb, pork, pepper, garlic, etc etc) We are always searching for why. I think it is an important question for us to be asking as we are searching for why we don't have this choice of how to eat. Seriously! A little variety would have been nice. I do this for healing alone. I'm just glad I know what to do now. I just think no one else has made the link, or thought to check. Do you have Rh Negative? Are you Carnivore by choice or necessity?
Cristy Brown I think so. Got Rh negative blood and definitely feel a lot better when I eat mostly meat/eggs/butter
Interesting topic.
May be the Rh negative guys were in stone age the hunters and the others the gatherers?
keto or carnivore is the best dietp
For elite endurance athletes ?
In high intensity exercise, you carb-load from your fat stores
I’m in the first five minutes but this sounds like a classic case of overtraining.
Haha! Awesome!! I can hear all the pretentious 'Vegan' triathlete's heads exploding now. ;-)
Did you even watch the video? When he won the iron man 7 years ago he was an omnivore eating ton of carbs.
Yeah, Rich Roll should interview him.
@@SunLife-gy1eu Did you even watch the video... especially the part where he had to keep going to the toilet all the time because of stomach 'issues'. Yeah... f'ck ironman when your peeing out the ass. Also not sure how anything we are talking about has to do w/ vegans.
Tell that to virtually all of elite endurance athletes from Tour de France riders elite marathon runners and yes pretty much all of the top triathletes. My head is not exploding, maybe exploding from disgust of gullibility from people who think this is a actual benefit
isn't gout an issue?
I used to suffer from gout. It comes from both sides of my family and basically, every male in my family has battled with it. I started getting Gout attacks very young.
Since I have been a carnivore for the last 11months I haven't had even a tingle on my affected joints and I used to have cripilyng gout attack every couple of months. I went for my yearly checkup and the Doctor did an ultrasound of the affected joints and didn't find any crystals in them. Also, my Uric Acid levels in the blood are in normal ranges.
Apparently, there is a link between Fructose and Uric Acid Crystallization and the body being able to excrete it.
Gout doesn't exist on a %100 carnivore diet. It's a myth, likely caused by grains vegetable oils or sugar.
misleading title. try "the former Ironman champion who later eliminated plants from his diet"....if Usain Bolt becomes vegan tomorrow are we gonna call him "the Vegan greatest sprinter of all time"?
Honestly they probably would.
@@conor8676😂
Good point .
I feel that it's about the gut lining. The (snot layer) is gone. This protects you from fibers. People that are doing raw kefir seems to heal also over 2-3 years. I add in bentonite clay and diatomaceous earth to pull out heavy metals and gut bugs. Only plant I sneak in is wild blueberries for extra C and a little fiber. This doesn't bother me at all. Still have to watch your carbs to feel good.
eat some oysters for your c instead
Brain and liver too
yeah i am the same when i go carnivore i always eat blueberries mixed with no sugar kefir and I notice no negative effects.
Berries make sense ancestrally, humans would have found and eaten them often.
Psoriasis has nothing to do with alcohol
Psoriasis isn't specifically caused by alcohol yes, but the sugar content and refined carbohydrates usually associated with alcohol is the root cause. My Psoriasis (serious) completely vanished on a carnivore/fasting focused diet.
Would be interested in cholesterol levels of this man
Research the "cholesterol myth" and Dr Eric berg to on cholesterol
Sabina Guliyeva in the absence of obesity dietary cholesterol generally has some, but not a large effect, on blood cholesterol levels - cholesterol is primarily (80%) synthesized by the liver, and it reduces its own production in response to higher dietary intake.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Trainurmind 2C there correlations that are so clear, that you have to consider them worth something. By the way scientists can adjust study results (minus risk from smoking patients for example). AND you‘ve got oxidized LDL in your artery plaques = causation.
john m nope there is a bunch of fresh studies where scientists measured people’s LDL and literally looked into their arteries 🤗