Boris Johnson treated the Tory Party 'like his wife' | Exit Interviews
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- “He always treated the party like his wife and treated the economy like his own personal finances.”
Outgoing Conservative MP Nickie Aiken says she hopes history is kind to Boris Johnson because he "could have been an outstanding prime minister" if he'd had better people around him in No 10. The MP for the Cities of London and Westminster tells Matt Chorley why she's leaving Westminster and how much more she's paying on her mortgage thanks to Liz Truss.
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Johnson 'could have been an outstanding prime minister' in exactly the way that Trump could have been an outstanding president - only by having a brain transplant from someone with a completely different personality, intellect, attitude, ethics, and competence.
Outstanding as in egregious.
Amen.
Perfectly said.
😂 Quite!
😂 very true!
There’s nothing here from Nicky Aitken but excuses and clichés. Nothing about the Johnson government’s corruption in awarding PPE contracts to Conservative friends and donors or, heaven forbid, the Sunak government’s behaviour in respect of the awarding of current public service contracts. As for Aitken’s recollection of Liz Truss…..”I don’t really know Liz, to be honest”, after spending thirty-six years in the Conservative Party it won’t wash.
Agree, that's 32 minutes I'll never get back .
It’s surprises me she is surprised by how divisive our society now is and how we got here
Hate and division is the Tory way. They always use "divide and conquer" to pit us against each other and so not look at what the they're doing. It works too, an elderly family member came round at the weekend and said he supported what Leanderthal had said. He does not live in London, but lives in a nice house with no mortgage, and yet has issues with people less white than him, that have never, and never will have, any impact on his life. Most of the Tory-supporting mainstream media in the UK is an utter disgrace, and is responsible for a lot of this.
She can make her excuses, Johnsons unsuitability for any role of responsibility was clear , it blew up in her face and now she's acting like she didn't know what a shifty damaged and damaging person he is.
The old saying about a sinking ship and rodents comes to mind and there are many of them!
Are all Conservatives delusional like this lady?
Yes
@@BrokenHill56 at least we know what they sound like
Yes. It's impossible otherwise.
I am a Canadian who used to vote for what was called a progressive conservative party. Progressive on social issues and conservative in fiscal issues. Then a second conservative party was formed. It was called Reform party of Canada. It was much further to the right and some of its members were evangelical Christians. Finally the two parties merged. Now I have no idea of how to vote. I don't trust the conservative party or the liberal party. It seems that the conservative movement has gone mad with too much influence from far right so called Christians and rather fascist leaning politicians.
Yes
Anyone who was naive enough to have supported Johnson with the reputation he carried with him for quite some time before he became PM should never have had the audacity to think that they could helprule this country.
Cal down 😮
1. I am standing down purely and simply to support my husband, who is taking a job in the UAE. 2. I thought very hard about standing for Mayor if London this year and nearly went for it, but thought it wouldn't be fair on my constituents. Hmm.
*Hmm indeed!*
Pity she won't be dumped in the nearest dole queue.
Boris treated the Tory Party like his wife... ohoo that is quite a damning statement.
Which wife?
So Starmer isn't PM material due to flip-flopping. Yet Sunak, an "honourable" PM who "cares", has a clear record of flip-flopping and lying is the better option? Sunak hasn't achieved anything positive. How delusional.
Which manifesto commitments has Labour broken? Ah yes, none, because the manifesto hasn't been released yet. Whereas the Tories...
You could well lose your seat Nickie. I'm one of your constituents. Labour took control of Westminster City Council nearly two years ago. I don't think you realise how low the Tories have sunk.
Oh, I think she probably does !
That's the problem with these people, their failure and incompetence is always someone else's fault.
'Keir is no Tony Blair' - neither were Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May or Cameron. Blair was a once in a generation politician.
Rats fleeing the sinking gravy train
What a hopeless politician. Nothing but excuse after excuse.
The Tory way.
Let’s flip this so on the detail point. He’s so in the detail that mostly his family financially benefit from every single policy decision.
She has a nerve to try and find excuses. She forgets about the many flip flops, u-turns and corruption findings. The problem is MPs like her who do not accept the fully reality and just the parts they like.
Sunak is honourable?! Lies constantly, especially about Brexit 'benefits', misrepresents and distorts, dodges issues and resorts to scurrilous tactics and reprehensible, personal, insults all the time. The Tories have been dishonest since Johnson took the helm and Sunak hasn't remotely changed that.
7 bins Sunak getaway would never have thought such an upstanding multi millionaire would tell porkies
Their future looks like Braverman or Badenoch. Must be hilarious for dudes who protect monuments and chant "you're no British anymore" at police.
Both ladies are brilliant proven liars too.
@@michaldimitrov3233 either would be a disaster for the UK if they got into power. Fortunately neither have the charisma to overcome their policies to get elected.
> misrepresents and distorts, dodges issues
All politicians do this, people need to look past it to work out what is going on.
Socialism is never the answer says a Tory? Then fully dismantle the NHS.
To be fair, they are the doing their best!
@@thetragicyouth The Tories are handing the NHS and even whole areas of the country to their mates and donors... The Tories are doing their best at transferring the wealth from the poor to the already stinking rich. That is solely what they exist for after all...
Aitken would lose her seat at the next GE without doubt , she fails to acknowledge the damage that her party has done on a national level & with people forming coalition groups to oust these crooks & vote tactically she’s jumping before she is pushed . There is no safe tory seat in this land & long May that continue !
Proof, if any were needed, that you have to be at least mildly demented to be a Tory.
True nowadays but wasn’t always the case.
I don't think I would lose my set and London will be held by the Tories.
Arrogant and deluded a typical Tory MP
Least she can spell 😮
@@TimComley Well that's alright then.Perhaps she doesn't have arthritis either.
"I have very much worked my constituency". That's a long way from the idea of working FOR one's constituency. Seems like a very instrumental - even manipulative - attitude. I wonder how many Tories will be heading off to places like the UAE? Might there be a connection between such career paths and the low levels of investment in the UK?
Well spotted. I was only half paying attention to her, as I had this video on in the background, but something felt off at that point. As a musical theatre fan, it made me think of Billy Flynn, masterfully "working" the people to serve his selfish ends.
Too many MPs say they were shocked about what happened on the 7th October but atrocities occur regularly around the world in many countries but this does not ever justify the killing of 30,000 civilians. If Israel was an innocent party I might have a different opinion but Israel is occupying land they have no legal right to, and killing Palestinians every month on the West Bank.
How morally bankrupt do you have to be to just shrug and treat your leader's fundamental and infamous dishonesty as just an incidental little character quirk? This woman will be no loss to our country, the UAE is welcome to her.
No love ,you'll 100% lose your constituency.
Dreadful woman. Learnt nothing, takes no responsibility for her legacy. The interviewer just lets her say anything. Is this Hello magazine?
Her reasons for standing down sound genuine but a lot of what she had to say here is delusional especially about Johnson being a great PM with the right people around him when the facts are everybody that worked with him bailed out as they saw first hand what a liability he was with constant lies and deceit which is why his party got rid of him in an attempt to limit the damage he inflicted on them which hasn't worked either.
He openly admitted that he surrounded himself by incompetents to make himself look less so.
Yawn ........ Tory knows she’s out and does a runner. Vermin and sinking ship
Poor interviewer control...he should realise this lady giggles when she knows she's talking nonsense eg the Tories are ''handing over an economy that is having green shoots'' (Giggle, giggle) Johnson was a good egg who "made all the right calls"; Sunak is "honourable"; (Giggle.giggle) I know all this because, without seeking any kudos, I've been taking the Tory shilling for 36 years. A moderator is needed here to avoid people believing this opiniated tirade of Tory travesties including her claim that thanks to the Tories, the economy now has 'green shoots'. Green shoots don't grow on dead plants Mrs Aiken!. Fourteen years of Tory greed and croneyism have stripped the economy of every leaf it had. You happily accepted your share of our children's birthright (big salary, benefits, perks...) and now that the Tory locusts have stripped the economy clean, you're showing your suffering countrymen a clean pair of heels and heading off to the UAE where the streets are paved with gold. Shame on you Mrs Aiken.
ps Whatever makes you think that after 36 years helping drag the country to its knees, you are the the right person to "Make London great again"??
Oh, she’s delusional.
Not best made argument I’ve ever read
@@TimComley it’s not an argument, it’s a comment.
@@TimComley that not a argument it true, she has to be crazy.
1:18 It doesn't sound arrogant. Just desperate and deluded.
Leaving before you get thrown out by your ears
She's wrong on Ukraine and it'll be proved so soon.
She talks at the beginning as if she had done 2 terms, but, by my calculations, she only did one. Could this be an attempt at sleight of hand? If so, it's totally in line with the rest of the 2019 intake; can't wait to see the backs of them.
What utter twaddle . The leader of the country can’t be managed and kept in line. Johnson was a and is a disaster
I can't help thinking this "My whole life was the Conservative party" at 31 minutes reveals something extremely unhealthy about our democracy.
Governance ought to be a serious business, not a social club or lifestyle choice.
Just proves that most peple fall for loud mouth charlatans
Well she’s awful, not a loss…
His name is Johnson...He partied whilst my Mother died alone..!!!
I can’t say for this MP but so MANY leaving stinks of leaving a sinking ship.. no service to the country just can’t be bothered.
The chaos is deliberate !
She really is awful.
He "treated the party like his wife"? Which of his numerous wives would that be?
Awww bless yet another “friends of Israel” mouthtrap on British radio
Two mouth-traps then if we include you
The problem is right there at 8:37 when you say they are equally terrible.
They are in no way equally terrible. The terrorists took a few hundred hostages and killed another few hundred people.
That was abhorrent. Those terrorists should answer for those crimes and the hostages should be returned and every effort should be made to make that happen.
You don't return hostages by carpet bombing entire cities full of non-complicit citizens.
30,000+ Palestinians are dead as a result of what can only be described as collective punishment.
30,000+ people dead...
In what universe are those two crimes equally terrible?
A few hundred = 30,000?
And keep in mind the people killed on the Palestinian side almost exclusively are non-combatants so not the same people who perpetrated the initial few hundred deaths and captures.
Add to that Israel has been engaged in an illegal occupation and takeover of Gaza for decades.
There is no other word for this than a pogrom or genocide.
I've referenced this song before but I think it bears repeating. Sinead O Connor talks about Ireland and the so called potato famine and how the English damaged Ireland and gave it's populace PTSD as a nation. She says there has to be acceptance and then healing and I think the parallels between the Jews and the Irish are pertinent and need further study.
Luv and Peace.
No. They are not "equally terrible". The slaughter in Gaza is 1000% more terrible than the atrocious acts by Hamas on Oct 7th.
30,000 Palestinians have been killed.
70,000 injured.
That is in no way equally terrible to the events on Oct 7th. Which of course I also condem.
Dude, Hamas' actions were beyond repulsive. Both sides are an absolute inhuman disgrace and one river of blood being deeper than another excuses nothing.
@@davidmurphy563he hasn't excused it. Just pointed out the depths of the rivers.
@@davidmurphy563 Your use of the word 'repulsive' kind of indicates that you believe the lies that the IDF put out, which have been shown to be lies. What Hamas did should be condemned, but it doesn't approach what the IDF have done and which they have been happy to advertise, are proud of. This is what horrifies everyone. But not everyone, of course, as this woman shows. She is a typical Tory here, a mind that can't rise above the cesspool that now constitutes politics, to consider real life.
Typical Tory blaming everyone else.
Bye bye Tory. You won't be missed
What ever happened to the Tories' love of entrepreneurship ? Oh , don't tell me, they were easy fodder, and she desperately wanted to be noticed and also to be reelected. A tough life with above average pay.
She had a majority of 3953. Almost certain that a majority of that level would be overturned given how badly the tories have done and how badly they are polling.
Aiken bemoans the lack of concern for Israeli hostages among the thousands of emails that she receives expressing alarm at the ongoing slaughter in Gaza. Could it be Israel itself that has diminished the importance of hostages by such vengeful destruction of Gaza? And has she heard of Palestinian men, women. and children held in Israeli jails without charge? Her comments belie her prejudices.
I remember this lady voted against Free school summer meals and she did it gladly went home and had two takeaways urgh yuk 😊
Overpromoted. Now that sums it up well
She is awful
Usually because they havent received their bill😂... She meant to say... usually became they want to wriggle out if paying it
Just completely delusional. These people are why the country is in such a dire state.
1 minute in and I can see this woman is clearly unhinged. Gives Dorries energy. Type A Boris defender.
Brexit was a non-starter, but I suppose they have to believe this nonsense.
Everyone said that guy was a lunatic.
Mayor of London!? This lady couldn’t organise the tombola at a village fete!
This MP is deluded and unhinged.
Think she forgot about Liz!
It was Boris, Liz then Rishi
Lol
In her defense, Liz Truss's premiership was so short you can blink, and you would not miss anything...hey that's how fast she and Kwarteng crashed the pound.
And she makes stuff up
What a waste of space
This woman isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer!
I stopped listening. How many people can afford to live in Westminster?
She's having a laugh
Gaslighting at its best!
Do you think he told her lies and deceived her like he did with us ?
Did she really think she was being innovative when she said "Make London Great Again" before being advised that it sounds "a bit Trumpy" and backpeddling? 🤪🙄
"I don't want to sound arrogant..." Has got to be an oxymoron for a tory.
What world is this woman living in , talking typical Tory speak
Not very well made argument
You wanted to change council tax banding!? So people would pay more.
What a vacuous party line interview - also Starmer's Labour is socialist???? Hard to put yourself across as a sensible voice when you spout obvious nonsense. Shocking this wasn't challenged.
Shocking ignorance shown in this interview. Lack of awareness of proportionality in responses in general.
So let me get this right- for her, he has to be 'given the credit' that he conned people in places previously Labour into voting in her toxic party, and that excuses his all disgusting behaviour?
As soon as she became an apologist for Johnson……Off!
How to fool idiots. Even professionals😂
I could've been a movie star if I was good looking and able to act
Home alone on a sinking ship
Nicky Aitken really needs to see a doctor. Great things from Bozo 🙈that went well didn't it. Get the Tories out ASAP.
Boris,like the Beatles moptops, got Yoko Nono by carry-on screaming eco Carrie.
However,the masses upnorth,who think he's "one of them',await the confirmation that when bonking Boris marries one of his many mistresses,it creates a vacancy:-)
I thought judging by the title this would be a way more critical analysis, considering the way he did treat his ex wife.
.... and yet Sunak still bangs the Corbyn drum.... 25:57
As Peter Hitchens has said it was "The Great Panic" and not a pandemic.
YES - WITH HONESTY, CARE & CONCERN FOR THE FUTURE !!
No Nickie, Labour are going to leap from 3rd to 1st in your seat. Clearly, you are going to lose the seat.
55 FFS we cant retire until 60-65 as a nurse get on with it. Sad case for womens rights
Behind her approachable, warm, arrogance-free exterior she's just as disingenuous as other senior Tories about Johnson. Before his selection as leader, everyone in politics knew about his consistent avoidance of the truth and the lengths he went to blame anyone but himself for the chaos he caused. We all know Johnson got his landslide majority in 2019 only because of his 'gift of the gab' about Brexit and because he was up against the unimpressive Corbyn.
Delusional .......
She sounds like a cultist
Keir starmer a socialist???? Dont make me laugh 😂😂
a candidate for leader? would get my vote
The wrong type of person gets into politics and it shows.
Times Radio critical of Bojo in all aspects, except for Ukraine! Boris has blood on his hands! Ukraine is to Boris as Iraq is to Tony Blair!
Which wife or mistress was it?
'He got the big calls right' - thats so 2021/22 (fyi, he didn't)
What happens if Boris Johnson apologises?
It doesn’t exclude Israel’s actions. Hamea actions were appalling
Rotten Tories