How SPIES ARE FOREVER Defies CLICHÉ With PARODY

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  • @evil-yn
    @evil-yn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +542

    “Bullet-proof vest! Good, you’re learning,” implies that at some point Cynthia shot Curt when he wasn’t wearing a bullet-proof vest and I think about that occasionally

  • @seanmcmurphy4744
    @seanmcmurphy4744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    It blew my mind that they mime a complete James Bond style chase scene with motorcycles, speedboats, and hang gliders in that tiny theater space.

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      and in such quick succession between vehicles and weapons too!

  • @azelmamortlake4471
    @azelmamortlake4471 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +764

    One of the interesting things about that speech that Curt makes at the end is that it highlights that although Curt and his friends may have "won" in the moment of the show, they ultimately lost in the long run. Curt's job was replaced by computers. People's privacy has been invaded in exactly the way he feared. It's a final subversion of expectations, where the good feeling of having the heroes triumph is tempered by the audience's knowledge of what the future brings.

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      Nothing better than an "actually we kinda lost..." ending

    • @thebugthatruinsyourpicnic
      @thebugthatruinsyourpicnic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

      it's kind of like black friday, where they succeeded in defeating Wiggly in hatchetfield but because Goodman failed they've lost anyway

    • @BitPlayer8147
      @BitPlayer8147 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      This ending is explicitly confirmed in TCB’s other projects, specifically Wayward Guide. In the podcast, Artemis mentions “Chimera” as one of the biggest companies in the world. Their tagline, “We got a little bit of everything”.

    • @justarose
      @justarose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      kind of like the opposite of a bunch of movies where the hero achieves the ultimate goal but chooses to spare the person's life

    • @awildnoviceappears
      @awildnoviceappears 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ahhh... The subverted good ending, a Hatchetfield tradition (I know this isn't Hatchetfield in any way, shape, or form, but the ending just reminded me of it hahaha)

  • @sarahellis6703
    @sarahellis6703 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +513

    Spies are Forever does for the spy genre what Twisted did for disney musicals

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      creating something better than what it was based upon, the true Starkid and Tin Can Bros way

    • @XFallenFreakX
      @XFallenFreakX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This. This comment.

  • @Sillylilgrill
    @Sillylilgrill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +519

    This is the one about the homosexuals

  • @split776
    @split776 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    As a Jew I will say portraying our enemies ourselves in the most ridiculing way is a staple of our culture. It's why kids want to be Haman in Purim plays

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Making fun of your enemies as part of your culture? Sounds like a great way to live!

    • @theshire9173
      @theshire9173 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yeah, the hamentashen cookies we eat on Purim are supposed to symbolize Haman’s ears because he reportedly had wacky ears and we make fun of him for it

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, brian rosenthal is plain an international treasure... Every predormance of his is priceless

    • @rebbyberard8150
      @rebbyberard8150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Another Jew here and: It's also CLEARLY inspired by Mel Brooks' The Producers, which makes fun of nazis in the same way by making them so ridiculous and pathetic it's not like real nazis would appreciate the portrayal.
      Not So Bad is certainly not a great song to absentmindedly sing to yourself when it's stuck in your head, but it's one of my favorite parts of the musical because it's so clear that the 2/3 Jewish majority writers room was certainly having a field day and the performers are all killing it--especially Rosenthal

  • @jolynegoh9588
    @jolynegoh9588 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    in the scene at 32:43 when curt moves up the steps to talk to owen about their relationship owen’s gun tilts down to point at curt’s heart… im going insane i love you spies are forever

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Love seeing comments pointing out all the tiny details that we sometimes miss! Thanks for this!

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +390

    nah beards are cool when they don't make you look like rasputin and aren't a metaphor for gay repression-depression, so you're good.. as far as I'm aware

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      My beard makes me look like an oversized leprechaun and is a metaphor for the passage of time

  • @ezelfrancisco1349
    @ezelfrancisco1349 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    1. IMO, this is one of the few musicals where a movie version could work. I can definitely see the movie version expanding on the Owen plot twist more. Maybe take more opportunities that the stage version couldn’t
    2. The stair scene is so good. Curt Mega looking up, the lighting showing his face clearly; probably symbolizing how Curt is no longer clouded with grief. Owen looking down, his face shadowed partially covered by smoke; probably symbolizing how Owen is no longer the person Curt loved. Also, Curt is looking up at Owen because in the opening scene itself, it has been established that Owen complements Curt as a spy. Every gap in his skills is filled by Owen. In contrast, Owen is looking down. He is with Chimera now, he thinks he’s above everyone else, including the one he once loved

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      1. Watching the promo videos for spies are forever are an even closer look as to what the movie version would look like and I love it!
      2. The stair scene is INCREDIBLE! There are so many little details that bring the relationship between Curt and Owen to a satisfying end!

  • @threeleggedcat
    @threeleggedcat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    My favourite thing about it is that not only is it a perfect parody of the genre, it also through subversion manages to create a nuanced and compelling gay character and story, something that even things that attempt to do that don’t always manage, and it is simply because that was never the point or focus of the story

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      making a story about a gay character without mentioning outright that they're gay is a power move

    • @threeleggedcat
      @threeleggedcat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@Undeniably_Idiotic absolutely, and part of why it’s so good is because I truly think they didn’t realise how revolutionary what they did was, to them it was just that, subversion of the stereotypes, exploration of certain subtext/concepts in spy movies, but because they did it respectfully and without putting all the focus on it or making fun of it, they ended up creating fantastic gay representation

    • @theshire9173
      @theshire9173 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@threeleggedcatTruly. Their other play Solve it Squad also has casual bi representation that isn’t a stereotype. The Starkid musicals are also great at having gay/bi characters just act normal, not made fun of or put on a pedestal. I love how in The Guy who Didn’t Like Musicals, Bill doesn’t like his daughter’s girlfriend and it has nothing to do with his daughter being gay but because her girlfriend is a bad influence. It’s more nuance than lots of shows that only dare to portray perfect gay relationships or shove them to the background.

  • @Amelia_H-A
    @Amelia_H-A 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +319

    14:40 "[Joe Walker and Joey Richter] are like two sides of the same coin" I see you, putting your own foreshadowing in there, very clever.
    Great video, articulates a lot of the feelings I have about this musical. I've gotta rewatch it soon.

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      you know, I was gonna mention it myself, but I am so glad that someone noticed

  • @tyraoqvist350
    @tyraoqvist350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +277

    It's been said a million times over by now, but "Not So Bad" is one of the most phenomenal fucking crituiqes of spy clichés I've ever seen and while i understan the hesitancy around covering it it's really sad that it doesn't get more recognition. It makes fun of the borberline fetishisation of the nazis that's present in a lot of spy media. The overuse of symbolism that's so often just played 100% straight, them bringing up the "pros" of the nazis, making them almost sympathetic etc but the cartoonish way they play it makes it obvious that it's not something they stand behind. And the icing on the fucking cake is them Actually Getting People To Join in on the chant!!!! Because the audience has become desensitized to the imagery present!!! It's such a wonderful display of how propaganda works without making it hard to interact with.
    Like the levels existant in this number ALONE is incredible, this musical is a gift to mankind and it honestly deserves global recognition. They should play this shit at UN conferences, presidential debates, sports events idc whatever you were going to do is irrelevant next to this masterpeice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Not So Bad is definitely a parody on trying to make a villain feel sympathetic when in reality they really are just in the wrong no matter what way you look at it

    • @katteather4599
      @katteather4599 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      reminds me of Mel Brook’s philosophy going into his work (eg. Springtime for Hitler and Germany in The Producers). He wants the world to laugh at and make fun of Nazis.

    • @tyraoqvist350
      @tyraoqvist350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@katteather4599Exactly! I think what makes SAF a lot easier to digest to is that it comes After ww2. Most of the jokes are targeted towards the ideology as a whole, sure, but there's an added layer of ridicule towards Nazi apologists/"Neo" Nazis.
      Laughter holds so much more power than we give it credit for, and pointing at these people insistent on a "superior race" and idolising the Nazis and laughing at them takes some of their power away

    • @horrorhistory7342
      @horrorhistory7342 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah I mean they even did the dancing swastika like Mel Brooks. I knew as soon as I watched this musical they had to have been inspired by him for what they did with Von Nazi.@@katteather4599

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is also this way of thinking, those where monsters, all Germans have to monster, "I would have never...." compleatly in denial of how strong humans drive for community is and how easy it is to get swamped up and deescalate slowly. Having the chant bit in it tricking the audiance into the same sort of compleatly unreflected cinplience is an act of genius!!!! Is it a deplorable thing to say, yes obviously, but it gets rewarded!!

  • @TincanTophat9907
    @TincanTophat9907 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +330

    It’s a musicaaaaaal❗️ IT’S ABOUT SPIES‼️‼️

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      forever, forever, forever, forever!!!

    • @Sillylilgrill
      @Sillylilgrill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      dance, dance, dance, dance!!!!

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damned, I almost missed that 😅

  • @foxglove-woods
    @foxglove-woods 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +257

    The thing about this show that rotates around my head like a microwave is the opening song. It establishes a tonne of expectations which are later subverted ('its time to save the world again, its time to get the girl again') as well as foreshadowing Owen's return ('spies never die, spies are forever')
    My favourite line is 'Will you live to see tomorrow or die another day?' because it initially sounds like 'will you live or die' but 'die another day' also means to live, so the options are both living. Which they do :]

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      "rotates around my head like a microwave" is a line that I shall be using in the future

    • @ezelfrancisco1349
      @ezelfrancisco1349 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Also, in Torture Tango, the scene is a direct callback to the opening scene where an Owen in disguise tortures a tied-up Curt Mega while a Mary Kate Wiles character sings in the background

    • @ForeverDegenerate
      @ForeverDegenerate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @foxglove-woods
      "Will you live to see tomorrow or die another day?" is a Multi-Layered James Bond reference. They took the titles of 3 James Bond Movies and made a coherent sentence out of them: "Live and Let Die," Tomorrow Never Dies," and "Die Another Day."

  • @championmenace
    @championmenace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Literally if at any point someone had thought to describe Spies Are Forever as "Goldeneye but actually gay" to me, I would've watched it immediately. As it stands, this is the first time I'm seeing anything about this show 😂

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      this is the first you're seeing it? glad we could introduce you to it!

  • @BitPlayer8147
    @BitPlayer8147 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    I'm a simple man. I see Spies Are Forever, I click.

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A simple man indeed, no need for a thumbnail, just the title

  • @Fischohnerad17
    @Fischohnerad17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Fun fact! The prince basically changed actors every show. The filmed version just happened to have corey lubowich that night. There was reportedly a night where the role was played by lauren lopez's pet Chihuahua Diane, which made everybody break character

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      honestly, the best casting decision

  • @justarandombrit
    @justarandombrit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    A new Spies Are Forever video essay in 2024? I guess spies really are forever... (genuinely got so excited when I saw this in my recommended, thank you so much 🙏🙏)

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      stick around, we've been really enjoying looking back at the starkid and tin can bros musicals

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    there's a video that's just a compilation of every time they say "spy" in this musical and it is way longer than most "just one word" compilations

    • @topacio3696
      @topacio3696 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      jahshhaa pass the link

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      that would be thanks to the incredible lyrics of "a spy is a spy is a spy is a spy"

    • @evil-yn
      @evil-yn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      They say ‘spy’ total of 115 times, with Curt making up almost half (I made a spreadsheet because I am ridiculous)

    • @sanityisrelative
      @sanityisrelative 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At least 30 of those are found in Spy Again alone. I tried counting once but lost track after 30.

  • @XFallenFreakX
    @XFallenFreakX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    literally the best best best.
    also I just realized the main theme of the song is literally telling Curt the plot twist. "Spies never die"

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Spies are foreveeerrrrrr! Mary Kate Wiles did such a great job with that opening song!

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน

      The opening number and tital of the musical spoil pretty much the whole plot, but since its so klischee, one can miss it as that probably will not be literal 😂

    • @XFallenFreakX
      @XFallenFreakX หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SingingSealRiana if you focus, most starkid musicals do this [even though tin can bros is technically its own thing]. Which is so fascinating

  • @SuperLoves4
    @SuperLoves4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +260

    How did you know I had just decided to watch Spies are Forever for the first time???!!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      You need to know these sorts of things in life

    • @sm00thcaramel
      @sm00thcaramel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      because we are in the era of tinlightenment

    • @allisonbergh4429
      @allisonbergh4429 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too! Weird

  • @elliee884
    @elliee884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    You have got to do Solve It Squad next. It also acts as a fantastic parody while being able to stand on its own

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ooooooh Solve it Squad is a real interesting one to cover

  • @eliescover
    @eliescover 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I always suspected that Richie was mdma/Owen in disguise, just messing with Curt for funsies 😂

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This is one of the greatest head canons ever!

  • @thebugthatruinsyourpicnic
    @thebugthatruinsyourpicnic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    i heard the piano in the intro and IMMEDIATELY started singing along fvsbhdfjxjbd the power of Spies

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Glad to see such cultured individuals around here

  • @four_girls_in_search_of_awesom
    @four_girls_in_search_of_awesom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    You’ve heard of Chekhov’s gun, but what of Chekhov’s banana peel?

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      it was right there the whole time!

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also know chekhovs flame thrower also known as roy mustang

  • @book_Emmy
    @book_Emmy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The Spies Are Forever Reprise (also known as The Cowen Lullaby) sung by Joey Richter near the end makes my cry EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. TIME, no matter how many times I've seen this masterpiece

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When he just says "whatever" at the end, that type of feeling is indescribable

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its so good and how much he improved is insane between the earlyer pieces and this

  • @dragonbowrghr5937
    @dragonbowrghr5937 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    So glad that Joey and Curt invented gay people! A real bro move that!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      truly the world has never been the same since

  • @Ozloz
    @Ozloz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SAF

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We feel like our channel is the "why aren't people talking about this yet?" place to be

  • @wolfyboy97
    @wolfyboy97 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Not So Bad feels like an homage to Springtime from The Producers by Mel Brooks to me

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      it most absolutely could be, I can definitely see the resemblance

  • @Aukejorrit
    @Aukejorrit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Spies are forever is a masterpiece

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it does so much so right so flawlessly

  • @MadisonClarke-o1x
    @MadisonClarke-o1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The bingo card made me loose it cuz everything that is spies are forever is exactly on the card

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The bingo card was carefully crafted from my vast knowledge of spy movies I'd watch with my father, I'm glad it has all paid off

  • @a.g.r1350
    @a.g.r1350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    A Spies are Forever Video in 2024? It’s more likely than you think

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Didn't even realise when I started scripting the video that TCB were making a tinlightenment campaign at the same time, no better time to take a look back at such a masterpiece

  • @tyraoqvist350
    @tyraoqvist350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    reading through these comments is making my heart swell and long for my spies. I'm rewatching this tomorrow a billion times over and listening to the soundtrack on repeat, I've decided. Fell out of that pattern a while ago like the fool I am, thank you for setting my priorites straight(ha)

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is absolutely wonderful to see all such positive and heart-warming comments on this video

    • @tyraoqvist350
      @tyraoqvist350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Undeniably_IdioticFor real! I knew SAF wasn't all that niche in our corner of the internet but still, it's so fun to see this amount of passion and love for the musical

  • @lolliputbug
    @lolliputbug 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    TH-cam doing me a solid with this recommendation. Can never get enough spies are forever appreciation. Nice vid!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Been wanting to talk about this musical for quite some time now, glad you enjoyed!

  • @pixiepicklejuice4460
    @pixiepicklejuice4460 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    omg, this is literally what i was thinking while watching the movie, i kept thinking of spies are forever

  • @lenlaegrim
    @lenlaegrim 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I remember watching Spies are Forever comically close to when I watched Goldeneye for the first time, so of course a lot of the plot twists I was absolutely prepared for, but damn if this silly goofy emotionally harrowing musical about spies still managed to absolutely captivate and surprise me. One of my favorites, to this day.

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would be interesting to see someone's reaction to spies are forever if they had never seen a spy movie before

    • @Cosmic_Mj
      @Cosmic_Mj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Undeniably_Idioticas someone who has never seen a spy movie in my memory before, I loved it. Some of the references are popular enough for me to understand just knowing the cliches by osmosis, and the musical points out what the cliches are in a way.
      Even if you’re unaware of that though, it stands alone tremendously.

  • @paulalucobravo
    @paulalucobravo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    i haven't even finished watching this yet but i have to commend you for your commitment to the bit and shaving your beard

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The real commitment was growing the beard out in the first place

  • @valentine8409
    @valentine8409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Man, its been a minute since I've watched this musical! Finally some appreciation for it!!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's what we're here to do, provide the utmost amounts of appreciation

  • @Light-fi1mj
    @Light-fi1mj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I JUST started relistening to Spies are Forever and I find this- your analysis is so GOOD!!! It’s such an ernest story that it becomes something far greater than “just a parody”!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you for such a wholesome comment! the reaction to this video has been really heart warming!

  • @seanmcmurphy4744
    @seanmcmurphy4744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you so much for this analysis! I didn't notice all the times that Mega's careless agent ruthlessness come back to bite him in the butt. And this video comes nowhere near describing the amount of satire in this wonderful musical. For anyone who's watched the classic spy movies, or lived through the period, the number of cliches and Cold War era tropes they skewer is just mind-bogglingly hilarious!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's very fun to see all the additional clichés and references that the comments point out that we had missed

  • @ryanb3665
    @ryanb3665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thanks for introducing me to Spies are Forever, that was a great show!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is an incredible show, glad we could introduce you to it

  • @theadventuresoftuckerthepu6268
    @theadventuresoftuckerthepu6268 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    holy shit this is the best ! I love spy fiction, and Spies are Forever is literally the pinnacle of it.

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It ticks all the boxes of a spy movie and then makes even better boxes to tick

  • @alittlemrzn9891
    @alittlemrzn9891 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Have you watched „Trail to Oregon“? It is basically „The Joey Richter Show“

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      One day we shall tackle the Trail to Oregon, it is such a unique show I really need to sit with it and figure how best to talk about it

  • @MsDaphne13
    @MsDaphne13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Great review, a really interesting analysis of the tropes and how the story messes with them. I love this musical, my only thing is I can never tell whether the English accents are meant to be intentionally bad or not. Actually, Joey's is pretty good but there are a couple of words pronounced obviously wrong that really stand out (e.g. Not-see, butty instead of buddy), so I'm never sure. Maybe deliberately bad accents are another spy story cliche!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Well Curt does tell Owen that his accent could use some work, maybe he was referring to all of them, and in Joey's defence he did have several different characters all with wildly different voices so I don't blame him for not getting every word right

    • @MsDaphne13
      @MsDaphne13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Undeniably_IdioticOh yes, I'm not trying to suggest there's anything to blame Joey for! He's an amazing actor and can do an incredible range of characters. It's just that it with it being such a surprisingly good, well-rehearsed accent otherwise I've never been sure if the odd mispronunciations are themselves part of the spy story cliches or not. But I'm probably overthinking it.

  • @BreadcatLuna
    @BreadcatLuna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I thought I could watch a video essay about my favourite musical in the back ground but I have fallen to the floor from pure emotion because I Love This Show So Much twice now and I'm seven minutes in. Great video by the way

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So glad you had such a great experience with the show and the video!

  • @anniestrooo
    @anniestrooo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is such a great analysis!!! There will never be enough SAF content so I’m always excited to see more takes on it!!!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spies are Forever holds a special place in our heart, especially with the song Somebody's Gotta Do It

  • @yyidhraa
    @yyidhraa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    so this is all getting recommended to us after we first watch spies are forever ??

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      and it's only after 8 years since it was first released

  • @Stephen_no_saurusRex
    @Stephen_no_saurusRex 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thought this video was immedietly after the release! Imagine my delight when the fandom is alive and well! Love this musical but I can't for the life of me get my friends to watch a satiric parodic musical about spies.

  • @mushroom_king2600
    @mushroom_king2600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    There being a chase scene in the song spies are forever and it not being crossed off bothered me a bit

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      clearly you are far superior at spy movie cliché bingo than I am

  • @graphgiraffe
    @graphgiraffe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The timing of this video is uncanny! I just rewatched Spies are Forever only a little bit before you released this video!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just gotta stay ahead of the curve if you wanna do this whole TH-cam thing I guess

  • @anderodonnell1928
    @anderodonnell1928 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    NEW SPIES ARE FOREVER VIDEO ESSAY JUST DROPPED HELL YES!!

  • @normeychiapatterson9559
    @normeychiapatterson9559 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The first time I watched spies are forever it blew my mind all the way down to the final confrontation. I should watch it again when im done with this video

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could watch and rewatch spies are forever... forever!

  • @nugget1044
    @nugget1044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    just bought tickets for me and my friends to see it in la, we’re all so excited

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If we lived the other side of the Atlantic we would definitely look in to going to see it ourselves!

  • @theshire9173
    @theshire9173 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love this musical. Never even watched a spy movie before, but the jokes still land

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is the true magic of spies are forever, it's such a well known genre you don't even need to watch any related movies beforehand

  • @gottagoquack
    @gottagoquack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ngl i love all the sound of music references in saf because i LOVED the sound of music as a small child. technically my first "real" musical that i fell in love with ahaha

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Loved Sound of Music when I was younger, Singin in the Rain was my first musical

  • @syrefayne8922
    @syrefayne8922 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Paused this video earlier today to go watch the entire musical and I have returned

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We have the utmost respect for you! Truly you are a tinlightened individual!

  • @SonderDoesArt
    @SonderDoesArt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS SHOW ITS ACTUALLY SO AMAZING I CANT WITH CURT MEGA

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't believe that's the actor's actual name

    • @SonderDoesArt
      @SonderDoesArt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Undeniably_Idiotic"Curt mega, if that's even your real name"

    • @rebbyberard8150
      @rebbyberard8150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just realized it's like when starkid named the evil organization in Starship GLEE, since the guy who wrote all the music for Starship (and played Harry Potter in the AVP trilogy) was Darren Criss, who was on the show Glee

  • @zangeeze
    @zangeeze 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Someone talking about Spies are Forever!!! Love to see it

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can't believe this came out in 2016!

  • @sparklingsora
    @sparklingsora 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    awesome vid! always love seeing analysis videos on this musical, its so well crafted

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you so much! glad you enjoyed!

  • @spacecat_scribbles
    @spacecat_scribbles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    augh this show is so good... I think it's about time for me to do a rewatch

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could possibly rewatch it endlessly, spies truly are forever

  • @SingingSealRiana
    @SingingSealRiana หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always found it curious how the character of susan was treated, with zero effort of having her pass, no one commenting on it, was always curious what that said about the actor

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also the line to the informant that said something like "you make a very good woman" was nice to see

  • @nastya_is_slay
    @nastya_is_slay 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this video! You're so good at narrating, and I really enjoyed hearing all your thoughts and explanations

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much, that really means a lot, glad you enjoyed!

  • @homosapien7316
    @homosapien7316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love spies are forever! I'm so happy people are talking about it

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very happy to see all the wholesome comments about the show!

  • @estheromoyele3321
    @estheromoyele3321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve never been so happy in my LIFE ❤ THANK YOUUUU FOR THIS X

  • @JaycePeters
    @JaycePeters 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this again after the Spies Are Forever Live Concert Experience 💜 such a good show

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if we didn't live across the pond from the US we definitely would've tried to go see it, it is such a great show can't imagine how it would be to see it LIVE!

    • @JaycePeters
      @JaycePeters 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Undeniably_Idiotic oh I'm from Canada so I get it!! I had the digital ticket so I've been watching it over and over again for days 😅

  • @JaycePeters
    @JaycePeters 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for reminding me to watch SaF again!!

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hopefully this video shall appear once again when you need another reminder in the future!

  • @grossitsjeremy
    @grossitsjeremy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    SPIES ARE FORVER IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2024 HELL YEAHHHHHHH

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We are doing the lord's work here indeed!

  • @kittycatcrunchie
    @kittycatcrunchie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What a cool reccomendation! Thanks for the vid

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is such an incredible show, it's surprising that it's their first ever scripted project!

  • @frownyclowny6955
    @frownyclowny6955 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Average male living space

  • @SuperLoves4
    @SuperLoves4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    great video!!

  • @rachellanedunn
    @rachellanedunn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry im LATE GUYS💜

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's alright, you've got a lot on your plate, it's hard to balance work and life

  • @dinosaurio8991
    @dinosaurio8991 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing intro

  • @jargonacular1924
    @jargonacular1924 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    looved this hell yeah!

  • @comfybox
    @comfybox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    subbing for the shave 🪒 DEDICATION to the bit is admirable

    • @comfybox
      @comfybox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      holy SHIT, just realized I’ve already subbed

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you were so committed to subscribing

  • @BurningPurpleRoses
    @BurningPurpleRoses 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I have been waiting. Thanks so much for the video 🫶💜✨
    Edit: Omg tinlightenment reference 👏👏
    Edit 2: omg did you actually shave for the vid!? That’s commitment 🫶🫶

    • @Undeniably_Idiotic
      @Undeniably_Idiotic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hope it was worth the wait!
      Reply 1: Never missed a Sunday Service
      Reply 2: The real commitment was growing the beard out before shaving it