That first song was dope. The more u make these videos the better you have gotten with all your production, mixing, and writing. I hear the growth Playboy.
"I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well." from Psalm 139. I dig it. Thanks for the production ideas. Like you, I always find it beneficial to have production ideas in mind as I'm recording the song. I've had times where I added an instrument that I liked, but then I just couldn't come up with one I liked to balance it out. Have you ever had that happen? If so, better to leave out the instrument or maybe pan it more to the middle? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Great sounding stuff on this new EP, by the way.
Cheers Brother.. Im a very humble sand grateful soul the LORD led me to have the chance to have you as a TH-cam Prof. Your advice and hands on exp is informative and concise, making it invaluable and a true gift from on high. More and more they become difficult traits to stumble upon in these the teenage years of youtube. So glad that your here for me and so many others. God Bless and as I say I and I and I.
Sometimes, when I only have a mono source but want to "spread it out across the image" I will create a second channel (using the Duplicate Track (complete) command), pan the original left and the duplicate track right but delay the duplicate track 10 - 30 ms (using the Inspector tool). Works good for harmony vocals to get them "away" from the lead vocal.
Another excellent lesson by Joe, thanks so much! Nice music vibe on the piece too. PS three seconds down from 4:45 it's good to know that even you are plagued by the additional CPU overload dropout!
Hey Joe..... Watcha doin with that ...no..... My favourite 'expansion moment' in on the Steven Wilson song 'Drive Home' at 1:24, the start of the first chorus. I know, a different universe but.. Thanks for your wonderfully practical instructions Joe .
I was just talking about panning the other day with another producer. I do the same thing when it comes to thinking where I'm placing tracks (in buckets). Great perspective! :D
i'm gona watch the whole video.. But when you added the Wurlitzer to the acoustic and piano I felt the lift to the next level.. It's early but I was compelled to comment. good work!
I've said this before on your videos but of all of the people doing these type vids on YT, and trust I've seen a LOT phew, you really have the mixing down the best, according to my 54 year-old ears. :) Great tips. TY
Woow, Joe. I thought you were just another guy giving good advise on sound production with a hokey artist ability. Nope! you have a A level talent to go along with everything else and a heart for God!
Hey that first song is crazy good sounding, also the ammount of textures living together is impressive. I wonder if puting the top end of a drum set to the right instead of the e-piano could have been a solid choice too
one thing i tried that i found really cool was i recorded a high pitched guitar part and panned it right. then i recorded the same chords but lower and panned that to the left. sounded pretty cool in the mix
cool stuff i do 2x drums L & 2x drums R 2x Guitar L & 2x Guitar R bass Center I just do instrumentals for now but hmmm ideas are going off i like this good job yo
Because back in the 60’s, stereo sound was a new thing and they mainly focused on the Mono mixes. Also, they were pioneering stereo sound at that time and didn’t know the full techniques of balancing left and right as we do now. Also they didn’t have to mix for headphones/earbuds, just speakers. So it didn’t matter if you had lead vocals completely on one side, because nobody would be listening to just one side of the mix.
I wrote this elsewhere, but I'll repeat it here: 100% hard-panned instruments are annoying on headphones. 90% pans sound basically the same on loudspeakers but much better on HP.
@@HomeStudioCorner I do. Obviously. And hard-panned sounds - especially guitars - always annoy me. I'm sure I'm not the only one. 90% pan is not so different in terms of soundstage placement, but much better on headphones.
Your big old heart came shining through on Fearfully and Wonderfully Made. Great recording, great talent and great songs. You hit it out of the park with this one. Thanks so much for sharing and teaching us. God bless you and yours.
there is another aspect about panning which is important. when panning and listening on Monitors, the sound produced by the right monitor is also heard by your left ear. (take a moment for that sentence to sink in...) when you use headphones, whatever is panned right will only be heard by your right ear (same thing with if you pan left obviously) . most of the time if you will not listen with monitors only, you will not really know if your panning sounds as you meant. i found a plugin that i can't mix without and when i do the first "static" mix i always use it for the first run. just adjusting volume normally with faders, but using the plugin for panning. the panning sounds much more natural to me than the normal fader panning. i don't promote it or anything, i really think it is great. www.bozdigitallabs.com/product/pan-knob/
This subject is important. However, often when it comes to club music the goal is to get everything sounding great in mono. Plus, as many people are using individual speaker devices for playback (devices they fucking talk with) it’s vital that we get the best mono mix possible. Thanks.
Joe, when you create arrangements like do you EQ them first before panning them? There would be a lot of frequency masking with parts like that unless you EQ them too right? Or does just panning them do the trick for you?
Say Joe, why is it when I pan I still hear it in the middle Sir!??! Say I want to pan my (Love You) by keeping Love on track one panned hard left and YOU panned hard Right on track 2 I did this BUT NOMATTER WHAT I DO THE ( LOVE YOU) still sits in the MIDDLE… what routing didn’t I do in St.One 6.5 professional Sir??? I’m so lost !???! 4/14/24
What to do with a wide ranging piano? The highs are naturally right and lows left...so how to pan? Do i reduce width? If i just 'pan' i may reduce level of lows, if use 'dual channel pan' may get phase probs.
Have a question regarding recording acoustic guitars. How do you deal with the string rubbing/scratching sounds which can get really annoying in a mix?. More prominent with frequent chord changes and slides on the acoustic.
He left them in, you can hear it, its just it works. Pretty difficult to remove but a de-esser or multiband on highs makes less harsh. Maybe automate/edit the actual audio.
Because it would be exactly the same, and if you put one left and right it would be MONO. the point of doubling is there is some subtle variance in timing and tuning, like a chorus effect.
love your teaching style God Bless
That first song was dope. The more u make these videos the better you have gotten with all your production, mixing, and writing. I hear the growth Playboy.
Wonderful sound and wonderful to honour Jesus. Thank you Joe
"I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well." from Psalm 139. I dig it. Thanks for the production ideas. Like you, I always find it beneficial to have production ideas in mind as I'm recording the song. I've had times where I added an instrument that I liked, but then I just couldn't come up with one I liked to balance it out. Have you ever had that happen? If so, better to leave out the instrument or maybe pan it more to the middle? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Great sounding stuff on this new EP, by the way.
this guy is an absolute legend, I love you
Cheers Brother.. Im a very humble sand grateful soul the LORD led me to have the chance to have you as a TH-cam Prof. Your advice and hands on exp is informative and concise, making it invaluable and a true gift from on high. More and more they become difficult traits to stumble upon in these the teenage years of youtube. So glad that your here for me and so many others. God Bless and as I say I and I and I.
Oh men that bridge! sounded like angels before the chorus. Inspiring video.
Joe, that first song is so lovely. Thank you for your tutorials 😊🎶🎶🙏🏼
Just what I needed to help my own piano ballad/orchestral track I'm working on. Thanks.
Thank you very much for sharing these tips with us, Joe! Forever grateful!
I feel really grateful to have found Joe’a channel.
The melody itself is very beautiful. Thanks for sharing the technics, brother. God bless.
Your EP will be awesome! I am already very excited!
Really digging that pipe organ on the IV chord there. Great compositional choice for the vibe you're capturing.
Just found your channel and had NO idea you were a Christian artist. Heck yeah, brother! Definitely subscribing.
Dude that piano piece was smooth AF. Kinda reminded me of something off of Floyds division bell
Joe, you will never know how much I owe you. Thank you for your excellent instruction.
"meedly Meedly" Did I hear a Strongbad Reference?
Really enjoy the channel. Thank you
Joe you are awesome! I can't tell you how much you help me in my learning curve! Thank you so much.
Joe what a wonderful song!
I listen to Gregor for that German precision and tech. I watch Joe coz he makes me want to be a musician.
Sometimes, when I only have a mono source but want to "spread it out across the image" I will create a second channel (using the Duplicate Track (complete) command), pan the original left and the duplicate track right but delay the duplicate track 10 - 30 ms (using the Inspector tool). Works good for harmony vocals to get them "away" from the lead vocal.
Really helpful video and lovely song too!
Thats a beautiful song, Joe
Another excellent lesson by Joe, thanks so much! Nice music vibe on the piece too.
PS three seconds down from 4:45 it's good to know that even you are plagued by the additional CPU overload dropout!
That first track was great!
I can hear this ringing out in the balcony of the Ryman. Keep the faith brother. :)
I really like that you let the music finsh each time you cut back to you! : ) These sonic examples are very helpful, thank you! Really nice song too!!
My ears are constantly being entertained. Good points. Thanks for this vid.
Great advice! Thank you, and God bless 😊🙏🏻
Hey Joe..... Watcha doin with that ...no..... My favourite 'expansion moment' in on the Steven Wilson song 'Drive Home' at 1:24, the start of the first chorus. I know, a different universe but..
Thanks for your wonderfully practical instructions Joe
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The WHAM effect! What a great idea! I'm going to have to refrain from using that trick on every chorus now.
Really informative. And your music is great. Thank you.
I'm really enjoying your channel! It seems whenever I see you panning, you go hard left or right. Is there ever a reason to pan more subtly?
You’re awesome Joey Glide
I was just talking about panning the other day with another producer. I do the same thing when it comes to thinking where I'm placing tracks (in buckets). Great perspective! :D
Nice! I’m saving this video. Very helpful 😁
Nice ideas, I've watched a few other of your production videos, always tasteful, thanks.
You keep saying right and put up your left arm!!!! hahahahahahaha!!!! Love your videos man!! You´re a great teacher!! Marco from Uruguay
i'm gona watch the whole video.. But when you added the Wurlitzer to the acoustic and piano I felt the lift to the next level.. It's early but I was compelled to comment. good work!
at 4:25 just wanted to say that part was genuine beauty
Thanks Joe!
Thank you.
Very nice. I would have opted for pedal steel instead of the whirlitzer. I am always sneaking that in if it works.
I like the feel of the impact.
I listened to my mix...
Now I'm here to learn
Sound great man touching song
a very good trick that automation panning... thanks for sharing man...
I've said this before on your videos but of all of the people doing these type vids on YT, and trust I've seen a LOT phew, you really have the mixing down the best, according to my 54 year-old ears. :) Great tips. TY
This is GOLD! No, this is PLATINUM! 😉
Great tips and great tunes.
Loving where your going with this EP Joe!
Woow, Joe. I thought you were just another guy giving good advise on sound production with a hokey artist ability. Nope! you have a A level talent to go along with everything else and a heart for God!
Hey that first song is crazy good sounding, also the ammount of textures living together is impressive. I wonder if puting the top end of a drum set to the right instead of the e-piano could have been a solid choice too
one thing i tried that i found really cool was i recorded a high pitched guitar part and panned it right. then i recorded the same chords but lower and panned that to the left. sounded pretty cool in the mix
thankyou for this
Great tutorial. Subbed.
Hi Joe, have you done video tutorials on how you go about song writing and composing?
Great video - cheers
This is a damn good song!!!
u explain better and clear
What song writing Man The 1st song..... Awesome
Loving this channel! Lots of really helpful tips. Just subscribed!
Great information
Soft organ? Tickling your ear? Hum? What's going on there Joe? LOL! Great lesson as always Joe! Sounds awesome.
Fearfully and wonderfully made.... so true! God doesn't make crap!
It's been interesting learning. When you say right down the middle do you mean exactly on top of each other? Or partially off to the left or right?
Amazing tip. Thank you! :)
Thank fu*k for your channel 🙌 fantastic content and we have a laugh whilst watching. Keep it up dude
man that sounds amazing!
I love ur way of tezching
Great video! 😊 Was the instruments you panned stereo og mono signals? And how would you know, if you used a loop?
You can tell by a. listening to it and b. looking at the file. Stereo files have two parts, left and right. Mono files don't.
nice video Joe
cool stuff i do 2x drums L & 2x drums R 2x Guitar L & 2x Guitar R bass Center I just do instrumentals for now but hmmm ideas are going off i like this good job yo
I've heard some bands will pan maybe just a bit past the middle on either side, but not allll the way over. So I'd guess that's also an option.
This is interesting, but I will have to think and play with this for Jazz. I am not sure if this would work. Of course, anything is possible.
Joe/Anyone where are your organ sounds from? I love organ in my music but can’t seem to find an organ sim I like. Thanks!
That’s it !
Hi Joe, why the Beatles songs are so hard panned , instruments are in one ear and the vocals in one ear, i am wanting to know this from so many years
Because back in the 60’s, stereo sound was a new thing and they mainly focused on the Mono mixes.
Also, they were pioneering stereo sound at that time and didn’t know the full techniques of balancing left and right as we do now.
Also they didn’t have to mix for headphones/earbuds, just speakers. So it didn’t matter if you had lead vocals completely on one side, because nobody would be listening to just one side of the mix.
@ashdeen ok thanks for your reply, i have been really trying to know this, and now i know it . Thanks once again for being there
Damned useful..really like the tune too
That singing voice reminds me a bit of Craig Walker from Archive
I wrote this elsewhere, but I'll repeat it here: 100% hard-panned instruments are annoying on headphones. 90% pans sound basically the same on loudspeakers but much better on HP.
Maybe. But listen to pro records.
@@HomeStudioCorner I do. Obviously. And hard-panned sounds - especially guitars - always annoy me. I'm sure I'm not the only one. 90% pan is not so different in terms of soundstage placement, but much better on headphones.
Your big old heart came shining through on Fearfully and Wonderfully Made. Great recording, great talent and great songs. You hit it out of the park with this one. Thanks so much for sharing and teaching us. God bless you and yours.
Use the widener you can go to 200%
@@emarsk77 if its doubled guitars each channel 100% fine. Not sure about cymbals though, dont like Overheads at full width.
there is another aspect about panning which is important. when panning and listening on Monitors, the sound produced by the right monitor is also heard by your left ear. (take a moment for that sentence to sink in...) when you use headphones, whatever is panned right will only be heard by your right ear (same thing with if you pan left obviously) . most of the time if you will not listen with monitors only, you will not really know if your panning sounds as you meant. i found a plugin that i can't mix without and when i do the first "static" mix i always use it for the first run. just adjusting volume normally with faders, but using the plugin for panning. the panning sounds much more natural to me than the normal fader panning. i don't promote it or anything, i really think it is great. www.bozdigitallabs.com/product/pan-knob/
Their width knob is useful as well
I set up my own "crossfeed" thing once. Just rolled off highs and delayed a tiny amount, with channel flipped. Blend til sounds like speakers.
This subject is important. However, often when it comes to club music
the goal is to get everything sounding great in mono. Plus, as many people
are using individual speaker devices for playback (devices they fucking
talk with) it’s vital that we get the best mono mix possible. Thanks.
I have studio one 5 artist...some of my panning controllers are blacked out...I'm sure I hit some button by mistake....how do I restore them? Thanks
Joe, when you create arrangements like do you EQ them first before panning them? There would be a lot of frequency masking with parts like that unless you EQ them too right? Or does just panning them do the trick for you?
You should resolve that mixing in mono... But not to an extreme, of course.
3:06 are you also a protest singer? 😄 Liked the song better without the guitar
How did you do that swell at the end of the verse?
Say Joe, why is it when I pan I still hear it in the middle Sir!??!
Say I want to pan my (Love You) by keeping Love on track one panned hard left and YOU panned hard Right on track 2 I did this BUT NOMATTER WHAT I DO THE ( LOVE YOU) still sits in the MIDDLE… what routing didn’t I do in St.One 6.5 professional Sir??? I’m so lost !???! 4/14/24
What to do with a wide ranging piano? The highs are naturally right and lows left...so how to pan? Do i reduce width? If i just 'pan' i may reduce level of lows, if use 'dual channel pan' may get phase probs.
Not sure what you're asking. Do what sounds best.
Have a question regarding recording acoustic guitars. How do you deal with the string rubbing/scratching sounds which can get really annoying in a mix?. More prominent with frequent chord changes and slides on the acoustic.
He left them in, you can hear it, its just it works.
Pretty difficult to remove but a de-esser or multiband on highs makes less harsh. Maybe automate/edit the actual audio.
Yep. More and more I think producing is arranging and conducting (sometimes composing). But on steroids.
And what happens if I have to listen with one ear? 🙂
profesional intro ftw ;)
I can't buy your song from Russia it seems(
*1:05** Why to record it again not just copy it or clone it*
Because it would be exactly the same, and if you put one left and right it would be MONO. the point of doubling is there is some subtle variance in timing and tuning, like a chorus effect.
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This is the guy you hear in your car's radio
Anyone who follows this tutorial and does his 1st mix trial will be successful at panning, atleast!!
Amen! Jesus is Lord!