Dealing With Britain's Most Disruptive Families | Poverty Documentary | Absolute Documentaries
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- This absolute documentary follows the work of Newcastle's Family Intervention Project, whose job is to help improve the lives of the area's most challenging and disruptive families. Vicky has a degree in criminology and works for FIP to help Newcastle's most troubled families improve living conditions and provide support to ensure children aren't being neglected.
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I’m a veterinary nurse and I HATE IT when people like them continue getting animals. If you don’t have time or money to provide them with proper care, don’t get them. Same with children, only the animals usually die from the neglect with zero consequences.
Absolutely hear you on this one! They should be stopped if they can't take care of them. Trauma is no excuse for intentional cruelty and neglect.
Exactly! I couldn't agree more!
The judgemental-“ …. people like them” - We are the least of our brethren-
I agree, the animals have no say. However one of my school mates from grade school starved his child to death,and 2 weeks prior a state worker signed him off. Some of these state workers aren't doing their jobs. Brandon Walker Peoria, Illinois(USA)
these people shouldnt have kis let alone animals
My heart breaks for children being born into chaotic and dysfunctional families like these. It’s like a curse that seems to continue from generation to generation.💔
Some people should be sterilized, but then I get called an evil person for suggesting that
@@Strange9952 That’s what the Nazis did.
There literally is. Deuteronomy 28 details the blessings and curses. They can be broken in Jesus name. They have been over me and many people I know. Deliverance too
It is heartbreaking, the cycle must stop, break the chain, they need education big time, long, intensive parenting classes, general life education until the light bulb comes on with the person, eventually, given enough information and education they'll transform and if not, if they're incapable take the children out of the home and place the mother on birth control so she must stop breeding, help the children at all cost, it's possible the mother, grandmother and stepfather are beyond help and reason, sad, preventable and ridiculous, those kids pay the bill all day everyday....
Generational curses are real.
I absolutely LOVE that there is an organization that works with parents to become better parents, and works with the families to change...rather than just taking the children into foster care!
Im a single mom on disability with a special needs son. Not everyone understands the struggles a d nuances like this gentleman above me commenting but as someone who was referred to a program similar to this it's been a real game changer. These programs are absolutely integral to society and more communities should offer them.
They should work on getting the entire bunch sterilized before they do anything else.
Definitely does not work
@bambinaforever1402 that's your case. This program works for many families usually the ones that actually get up and make positive changes.
@@bambinaforever1402interventions like this absolutely help. They don’t have a 100% success rate but nothing ever will. If a program like this can keep even one family from entering the foster system it’s worth it. The best thing about something like this is anyone can do it. Anyone can be a good neighbor or friend to someone in their community. I firmly believe in giving a helping hand before calling authorities (unless the children are in danger of course). Many times families become so overwhelmed and then become “paralyzed” and just don’t know where to start because they feel like they are drowning.
"If I don't let my daughter do what she wants, she's going to do what she wants." Insanity.
Barbara Bush said that about the Bush twins. Lol
She can’t raise her own child but she’s going to raise all of the neighborhoods misfits
🤣
When he 7 yo smacked his little brother in the face and then scratched his head as if to say “ah you’re fine, get over it”…He’s learned this from somewhere 🤔
My heart goes out to those kids.
i swear i was going to comment this EXACT thing. :{
It's the seeds of generational disfunction taking root
Idk I work in a day care and children are naturally violent in my observation
@@annabelenko1611yeah and that comes from the lack of being able to communicate emotions and feelings properly. That’s why a lot of non verbal kids become very violent (especially when put together with other children their age) if someone’s boundaries are crossed again and again and you aren’t heard or can’t communicate this properly the only option is violence. That’s why it is so important to talk to your child and give them the ability to communicate their will and their feelings in a proper verbal way! That’s what these kids are lacking…. And at 7 a child should be able to communicate these things without turning to violence!
But I’ve got the feeling the original commenter was getting at the "hit first apologise later" attitude displayed here… the fact that the boy was violent to his brother only to turn around in a "you’re fine, get over it/it’s not that bad!" Motion shows us that this is something he must have learned from somewhere! That’s what’s so worrisome. He picked it up from somewhere most likely experience! Violence isn’t "too bad" and he will get over it. That’s just sad!
@@annabelenko1611sounds like you at the wrong place then anna also thats a bad excuse dont excuse bad behavior please
A lot of this just looks like a vicious cycle of poverty, low education, and mental health problems. The parents don't seem to be cruel or indifferent, just ignorant and ill-equipped to cope.
I really like, and appreciate your point of view.
The parents probably repeat what they've experienced themselves.
@@carmenl163 It's a tough cycle to break when it's all you've known, I hope some of them managed to improve their lot in life.
@@MeatEatingVegan777 I just call em the way I see em. With every generation comes an opertunity to do a little better.
It really is. Certainly plenty of wealthy kids have “interesting” families too, however, the money basically gives them a “pass” and/or access to things (therapy, cleaners, etc)
The little boys being happy after they moved to a new place made me shed a tear. I’m so happy the little boys are happy
Same, hope things continued for them.
They are very happy their parents are taking time to play with them, too. I am proud of the progress the parents have made.
SO happy for them...they are beautiful little boys and I sincerely hope things continued to go well for this family. They needed some guidance.
Same!! I was so glad to see those beautiful boys laughing and smiling.
Hopefully . They Have stopped smoking in the house
Why the heck does Martins parents allow their son to basically ruin a single mother who is already struggling??She is at risk at loosing her home because of him they said. Have they NO conscience?It made me soooooo mad to see that man yell at her because that Martin boy had stolen the ball. It is NOT her child!
kaia Kolset - But it IS her responsibility to kick him back to his own home. If he refuses to live at his home and he has to sleep under a bridge, so be it. It is not Sharon's responsibility to provide a home for him, and certainly NOT with a girl Sian's age.
Because they don’t care about him, because they have the mental capacity of a 12 yrs old or they just wait until he’s arrested and brought to jail where someone can force him to act like a person and not like some savage or all of the above.
She wants to keep her daughter and not have her run away.
But he IS a guest in her house. When you have guests you’re responsible for them. So you don’t invite people around who steal from your neighbors
@@missmoxie9188 I get that she didn't want her daughter to leave. But in the end letting her 14 year old daughter have all the control almost got her evicted, hated by her neighbors, and now has to watch her struggle through a teenage pregnancy. Sadly I see Sian repeating all the mistakes her Mother made with her. Hopefully the baby will be raised in a better environment!
This pregnancy could have been prevented by setting of boundaries. Martin was allowed to have the run of a house that didn’t belong to him. You can make choices but you can’t control the consequences.
This 👆🏻
EXACTLY!
when someone is verry depressed its not that easy....
You prevent pregnancy by education. You can have rules and boundaries but it doesn't mean they won't sneak around your back. Can still get knocked up.
@@katepausig8562 That's what IUDs are for.
You know... A filthy homestead is a form of abuse if it comes to pets.
Basic cleanliness is important for humans and animals.
Long term underlying health issues can arrise and can be severe and permanent.
Don't take it lightly.
Pets have the right to a clean home and healthy living environment with the option to go outside if possible.
You are right.🐾🌹
Yes, the pets should go….
Priorities lady!
Children more important ! Pets need to go big time some cleaning up for healthy home and children less illnesses too
@@disappearedselfadvocate4191 sorry, I preferred the cats...
@@lecraftyoldcatdoris1328
So do I.
Thank you 💕
Wow, this program seems great. I am a social worker and have 60 clients on my own. It is IMPOSSIBLE to really achieve good results for these people who desperately need help. There is not enough money, places and workers. Sometimes I just want to lay down and cry.
Hugs
Bless you.
Oh bless you. I would have loved to have had a social worker when I was a young teen, it would have made such a difference. Don't let it get you down. Each child you save is more than that, it's for their future generations.
Aww that means you've got a heart lager then most. Thank you for helping those children they need us don't give up on them I work with families as well but my main focus is making sure children are properly being cared for because they didn't ask for a miserable life
These parents outta get off their azz and man/ woman up
Social workers are criminally underappreciated. Just know you're doing the best you can.
Clean that house to start with. Being poor doesn’t prevent you from living in a clean house. She works as a part time cleaner? Really?
I have never understood that either. Poverty doesn't mean filthy yet they seem to go hand in hand. Not by all poor families of course but alot.
I'm from eastern Kentucky and come from a long line of coal miners. My grandmother didn't have much but what she did it was clean. She would come back from the dead if I let my house get like that, lol.
A clean home promotes a healthy mental state for sure! And it's not expensive to clean properly
This is mental illness + poverty- not just poverty…
@@joeymarie72 that's you in your profile picture
I don’t have children by choice. However, documentaries like this makes me want to become a foster parent. Children/teens need both love and DISCIPLINE.
U really should the world needs fosters many fosters aren't good people sadly I have friends who did it and know social workers,real horror stories
Agreed. Love kids. Hate to see them go down these paths.
Many fosters do it for the stipend.
And discipline is a major part of love when it comes to children.
Is that u in your profile picture
i would love to see you try and DISCIPLINE american foster kids
I'm sure the 16 year old child jumping around in the wolf onsie will make a great dad.
You spoke my mind. I understand the logistics, but I can't believe allowing those children to have children is even an option.
The girl Sian (Shawn) and her boyfriend are just kids themselves and cannot be responsible for a child. I cannot believe they are just allowed to sleep together like that at their age. That whole situation is just sad. Lack of education, poverty, filthy living and it’s generational.
My daughter's friend just decided to move into my home one day. No asking, no permission. I really felt sorry for her, for a bit. When she couldn't handle my rules and follow them, I packed her bags for her and took her to someone else's home. Nope. I always felt kinda quilty for that, for years. After watching this, no longer. Best thing I could have done.
I don't think Martin is a bad person, he's just a kid who has issues and needs of his own that's not being addressed. That said. He seems to be dragging Sian down. He has to CONSTANTLY be around, not giving her any room to breathe. Not giving her a chance to consider to improve herself. I think she would've been way into the horse visit if he wasn't right beside her sulking. He reminds me of my ex boyfriend who would sigh and huff when I would talk about college or doing anything other than being his girlfriend. I do hope they're doing well and that their baby is ok. But yeah...all I could think is "why can't she be alone for a minute?"
damn
Maybe if she went to school instead of sitting home putting on make up would help.
You have a good eye
I had one like that
This girl, Sian, is 14? And a boy 'lives with' her family? Already had a pregnancy? What is her mother THINKING?
I can’t!
She's not thinking. She"s dysfunctional and does not have control over her children or her life.
@@christinegatto7426 It's plain that the mom lost control long, long ago. It's shocking to watch as a CHILD runs everything and the family spends their time screaming at one another. This girl, Sian, is visibly depressed and in a downward spiral. She's already old before her time and unless a miracle occurs she's doomed a life of failed relationships, poverty and welfare. Nearly every time she was shown on the film she was fiddling with mascara or her hair. And what of this 'boyfriend'? He's 16? What about HIS parents? Where are they? I found it awful and depressing.
They literally said the mother has mental illness. Obviously she thinks very differently than a normal mum.
@@extremeclean2680 I too live in the US. I grew up in poverty in the south, with an alcoholic mother, so I know that dysfunction and problems exist everywhere. BUT, I was taught that parents are the ones in charge and would never DREAM of defying my mom or dad. It would have been unthinkable. This scenario--as it's shown--is, in my opinion unforgiveable. This 'mom' allowed this to happen and didn't parent when this girl was growing up and now it's too late.
Stepfather- the boys are fed, bathed, and get water. Smh
Yup, fed and watered, just like farm animals. In fact, farm animals have it better.
That dude was creepy!!
The step dad .I don't trust him creepy man.Then let a 16 year old boy stay with your 14 year old Daughter .I thank God my mom had rules .These ppl let the uneducated kids run the dirty house . This is so wrong how they are living .Sad just sad .
@@jackiemarini3203 I got more of a feeling that he wasn't comfortable w/the kids and had essentially no understanding of how to parent. It didn't sound like he or Claire had very good parent role models. He seemed more comfortable after the coaching from the worker. And the kids appeared much happier as well.
Amazing caring social workers
For the love of all things holy Sian, Martin, nor Sharon are capable of raising a baby...
Kids shouldn't be allowed to have kids.. 💯
Idc what anyone says... Only makes it worse for the next generation. 💯
Yup
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 the number one predictor for lifelong poverty is having a child out of wedlock before age 20. FACT. Yet, these kids think they’re going to be the exception to these stats.
A Vicious cycle, well looks like the United States, is not the only place that breeds. Lazy people 🤷🏻♀️
when she refused birth control appointment I knew they wanted to get pregnant. total giving up like they have no souls
Absolutely it’s not good and it sets the stage for bad things
It's sad that these children are not being taught anything. There's no sign of them knowing human behaviors at their age. No one to teach them about standards, morales, how to have respect for self and others, have consideration, how to love and care for their pets. There is so much work to do as a parent and so much to teach your children. These children get nothing. This is child and animal abuse on a high level.
I genuinely can't understand what any of these breeders are saying, it's like they all have severe speech impediments or are abusing substances? Are these all children of people with cognitive issues? Not a one of them is an actual parent by any stretch of the definition. They also need to take those animals away from those nasty hoarders ASAP. And please put a leash on your pets when they're not in a fenced in area, and especially next to the road. So senseless to risk them being run over.
Shouldn’t they do some of it at school?
@@mrs.h2725 😂chav accent
Waiting for her to be pregnant
It always amazes me how people that have very little will have 5 or 6 animals that take food out of their children's mouths.
It seems to be the norm with poverty people that I have encountered in different communities I worked and lived in
I am not saying EVERYONE in poverty hoards animals am speaking from my experiences only
@@lisaperry5999 damn
And it is terribly sad for the animals as well. It's not their fault and their lives are equally miserable.
For me, its paying for tattoos, multiple piercings & cigarettes!! That's a lot of money that could have been saved or put towards the children's needs.
Animals behave better then the kids
Just because it's been in your family for multiple generations, it doesn't mean that neglect is normal or okay. And those children having a pregnancy.. they are so insecure and underdeveloped. They do not need a baby they need to be separated for a while.
There's nothing else to do since they don't go to school or work, so why not is probably how they see it.
@@KMarr07 Some teens are so empty that it seems like a valid plan to manufacture an entire new human they hope will love them.
@@elizabethwood199 If you are busy going to school, sports, whatever, you might not be so empty, you might not even have time to get pregnant, sigh, but what else do these kids have to do. Clearly they don't have proper adult supervision and have nothing positive to do.
@@KMarr07 exactly
The social workers are such wonderful caring people.
They're nosey, authoritarian busy-bodies who usually need to be sweeping their own doorstep.
Why wasn’t that girl put on birth control? This is the moms fault for having no backbone. I’m sorry. You can’t let your kids run your household.
This was my thought. I wholeheartedly understand it’s difficult to change, but not putting your foot down about one thing may be excusable, but her not saying "You ARE going to the doctor today, you ARE getting the IUD."
Blew my mind she left it up to a child.
she gets more welfare
Another commentor pointed out that Martin had full run of a home that wasn’t his.
Why was this mother allowed to retain custody at all?! She is clearly the single worst influence in her daughter's life. What a waste of potential.
@@Whimsey6 foster care wouldn't do any better , they kick kids right out at 18 the girl is 17
Claire is a very good social worker, involved but not overbearing.
I just wanna say.... Bless Claire for her (emotional) involvement and level of care. Vicky, i don't think many people would have that level of patience. You can say all you want about those families. You can see they are struggling... but those socail workers dont give up.
Struggling to what… Vicky is so fekken lazy, she doesn’t even use her mouth to form words.
@@bethgallagher8156 haha
Shes just enabling them to continue down a toxic life path. That's not helping them
That social worker is responsible for Sharon getting Sian home after social service had taken the child. Basically SHE is the reason for Sian to end up like that. Not something to be proud of.
The little boy (Brandon) seemed so sad and withdrawn at the beginning. I'm sure he was probably shy with strangers/cameras around too but it struck me how the social worker said she'd never seen him smile before. Plus it seemed like he was expected to help get his brother up and ready when his mom was asleep. Then at the end he seems much more like a normal happy active kid. Hope they can keep the routine/structure for the kids
Sharon absolutely infuriates me. She is so weak. And is ruining her daughter's life.
Usually the most incompetent people have kids. The most responsible ones are aware of the responsibilities, money, time, energy...it takes to raise a child. I'm one of them. 31 yo and without kids.
Yup
There is so much scary truth in this comment. I genuinely never thought of it in this way, but it's so damn true.
No pregnancies?
@@annehedonia156 that’s not an appropriate question to ask a stranger Anne. It’s not any of your business nor has any relevance
@@lol.3460 Well, it is relevant to her statement, because if she's been pregnant before and had an abortion, she's basically criticizing people for giving birth to their children instead of aborting. I've known people who rationalize their decision to abort with the same kind of statements she made here. That's the only reason I asked.
The worker has been going to this family for 4 years. The daughter is now pregnant at 14 and has not been to school for 1 year. I‘d say that’s a total fail and waste of tax money.
And she has a chip off the old block on the way
@@Unknown-hj7uc Horrifying isn’t it?
So true and it's just horrible.
Too many social services fail those in need.
Well this is what happens when parents don't step up to the plate. Those kids should be removed immediately
I feel sorry for Shawn. Both people in her life terribly codependent. She would be better off in Foster care. Her mom needs mental health services and Martin needs a good mentor.
yes the Social worker made a BIG mistake helping Sharon getting the girl back
That is often worse...
There appears to be an addiction to mascara.
Or not enough money, to by new ones, when it gets dry..
@@ingridakerblom7577 damn
AND horrible piercings...🤯😖
They need help on putting it on.
Every frame shes adding more 💀
You can see that Sharon is depressed and bone tired.
Yes.......and l think she looks 20 years older than she is😳I mean..43..? 😱
Sharon is depressed and bone tired but both of those conditions can be treated. There is medication for depression, and her bone-tiredness is not "sleepy tiredness" - it's boredom and laziness combined. If she actually stuck in and cleaned that house top to bottom, corner to corner, sorted and threw away junk, organized what's good to keep, and kept the kids rooms tidy and with clean beds made up every day so that they look inviting at bedtime, the whole family would feel the depression lifting. And she has no excuse not to do those things - she only works part time.
It's extremely sad when children are raised in filth. You don't have to have a lot of money to keep a relatively clean house and keep your children's hygiene up to an acceptable level. Some people should just not have children or pets.
There's no excuse for the filth, poverty can't always be helped but cleanliness can always be achieved. I know of people on the streets that are more hygienic and tidy
With Brandon's family.. I think those folks genuinely didnt know any better and were happy to make the changes
Sometimes all it takes is a little guidance and they will take it and run with it. I discovered very early on in my career that many of my clients grew up in an environment where the basic ADLs were not taught or encouraged as well as no direction or guidance. Some even had no understanding of why they should say "please" and "thank you. As a case mgr It feels like you have hit the lottery when you are able to help the person build a solid foundation and then watch them grow and thrive. And there is both a happiness and sadness when they no longer need your assistance. You miss working with them but are happy for them as well.
The grandmother was the problem. The whole "I neglected my kids and it never did them any harm" kind of attitude. The care workers managed to start breaking the cycle with the mother.
The parents are simply not able to take care of their children properly, probably due to their own mental health issues. I truly hope the intervention works for their family.
I admire the good people that help and support these troublesome families and feel sympathy, but I can't understand how it is possible to let a 14 year old take decisions as if she was an adult! And the dirt! Poverty doesn't have to mean that you have no sense of pride.
I think it was wrong of the social worker to be upset that she was showing no signs of beingready to be a parent at 14 to be completely
I grew up in a messed up home was a messed up little kid and I can remember all the people that tried their hardest to help me and get me to turn things around for my life. And I totally payed none of them any mind. Didn’t take no advice or none of the help they were offering and now watching these kids in the same position with the same people trying to help and they just don’t even realize and I know exactly how that feels man!!
What turned life around for you?
Filthy paces for multiple people who do not work and stay at home full time 24/7.
Tbh that's probably why it's a mess. Think about it say you clean at night next morning everyone leaves. Nothing gets messy.
I know if they don't work or clean the house or play with the kids wtf do they do all day? My husband and I both work full time and my house doesn't get close to that dirty. I don't get it
For real nasty and lazy
She's not going to school, running wild and a live in boyfriend?? At 16?Her getting pregnant will be the nail in her life's coffin. She shouldn't have a phone either.
Sian is 14
The boyfriend is 16 ... she is only 14!! Even worse!!
Single mom for the win. Let keep going down the road of single mom and not promoting two parent homes such as marriage.
Martin seems lost also. Whenever Claire spoke to him he seemed remorseful. He said he didn’t want his child to grow up like him. This young man needed help. Obviously, the adults in his life were letting him down. Unless it’s broken, the circle of these kids becoming bad parents td will continue and that’s a shame
I know those boys are gonna be taken care of. She's a good mom. She just needed a little guidence. It makes me happy to see her being that playful mom to her kids. It's not often I see that around.
1. Don't let your daughter's bf move in.
2. Don't let your daughter's bf move in.
3. Don't let your daughter's bf move in.
...or spend the night! Daddy isn't around to chase the boys away with a stick and mom just wants peace & quiet. That's a recipe for early grandmotherhood.
Problems are passed on generationally just like some families pass on wealth. If your parents were raised in trouble, then they likely didn’t have the resources to be the best parent they could be so you probably didn’t get the best home life and that causes your life some troubles...then eventually you raise kids and guess what? Passing on life troubles again because you didn’t get the best start yourself. Helping people out of poverty is one step, but so is counseling and therapy for everyone. There’s a saying that goes “most people need therapy when they grow up, but instead they have children”, that wisdom applies to everyone, impoverished or not
Wealth isn't just passed on and neither are problems like this. Everyone makes life choices that determine how their life will turn out. Many people born to wealthy families are poor themselves. People born to dysfunctional families still know right from wrong. Being raised in a dysfunctional family doesn't make someone unable to make the right choices. They choose not to bc society doesn't require them too. Theres plenty of people like you that will make excuses and not hold them responsible so they keep making bad choices bc they think it's easier than behaving. You'll do the same their their children so their children will act the same way. Making excuses for people has never helped anyone have a better life. All it does is makes u feel better. You care more about your feelings than doing what will help these people change their lives. Youre not the only one. People like you feel good when you pretend these people are incapable of doing right so you can use them to feel sorry for and act as if it makes u a good person. You'll donate a bit of stuff or money to them while patting yourself on the back and their life situation doesn't change bc no one will require them to take responsibility and do better for themselves. You need people like this to exist so u can feel good about yourself. You can watch them and know no matter what bad choices u make at least you aren't them. Youll watch videos and make comments like this bc it makes u feel like you're a good person. Life situations aren't genetic. They arent passed on to the next generation like hair or eye color. Everyone has a choice in how their life will turn out. Even at that girls age she knows shes making choices that are ruining her life and she knows it's wrong. She will keep doing it bc people like u will allow her to and tell her it's not her fault. You cant "help" someone out of poverty bc much of the reason why they are there is bc of their choices. Choices have consequences. You cant ride in on a white horse and erase the consequences of their continuous bad choices for them. The government will never be able to spend enough money to get them out of poverty while they continue to make bad choices. You'd have to constantly give them money and fully support them while they keep making bad choices. Any money you give them won't better their situation bc they'll just use it to pay for their bad choices.
Wonderful to see the young boys happier & engaged. What a wonderful team who helped these families
My heart breaks for Brandon so much…I can barely watch this. Poor tyke.
Kids need structure, things that are set in place consistent structure and rules. Plus play and fresh air. Parents are lazy. Kids need the parents to be present
The tragedy is that not all parents know how to be parents. The stepfather said his father was an alcoholic and in and out of jail.
My heart grieves for children who are neglected. God love their little souls.
I am a social worker myself and yes, I understand that they feel overwhelmed but you truly need to be firmer with kids like that. If I'd speak that softly, they'd never take me seriously. I'm never rude or loud, it's not about that. But you need to show confidence in what you are saying and make them clear that there are consequences. They are just tip-toeing around all the problems.
"Its the first time Shawn has let me in HER ROOM for a very long time"...Are you freakin kidding me???😳
Sian
@@tingtong8781 Thanks!
the social worker was let in the room sinds a long time,it was not the mom who said that....
Anybody notice how Martin's home is clean?
I don't know what went down with Martin but something is really wrong with him and his family life. It can't only be that his mom won't stand for his behavior. For him to act the way he does and to prefer to go to a home full of filt says something about him. Sharon and Sian are just sad. Can't say much more. They seem broken. It's really sad.
Martin needs to be put out. Sian needs to be in school. Mum needs to be one-on-one with her daughter more often. The friends need to be in their own homes.
Does Martin understand what 'putting tenancy at risk' means??
'Oy, Martin! You gonna get 'em chucked out. Knock it the f@#$ off!' Sounds more like it.
It almost makes me wonder if a “friend/big sister/brother” program would help, someone closer to their age but has been through it and have succeeded themselves, who insures young teens/adults like Sian follow through, but also encourages, shows her what she CAN do, not only what she SHOULD do, build trust and confidence. When the young people succeed (the ones that do), they can be the friend to the next generation. This just makes me sad.
Big Brother program isn't as great as people think!
Research the the incidents involving men, that pose as concerned "Big Brothers" that have sexually assaulted the young boys that they were supposed to be mentoring. Parents shouldn't trust anyone with their children.
That's brilliant, truly is.
@@fabledfantasty7343 I appreciate your comment, and did quite a bit of research (online, not much found) and the few horrible cases they have had were children 7-12 years of age who were paired with adults. I would hope at risk teenagers being paired with other young adults like I am saying would be much safer than a child/adult pairing.
Maybe they need laws like the US. Teenagers go to school until they’re 16 otherwise juvee
@@missmoxie9188 Spot on! Definitely.
In all honesty, in my own ignorance, I would have thought there was something like that there. I’m sure some people would still get around it, but it would be a starting point.
Seeing Sian smile for the first time watching the horses. 🥺
I can’t believe the second mum lets her fourteen year old’s sixteen year old boyfriend’s of only seven months live with her as well as all the friends coming round.
Amazing how these people who are unable to look after themselves and their children always have pets.
God bless all the social workers in the 🌎 high burnout rate in the profession.
I feel for Sharon, cause I mean, I’d rather have my daughter home even if I can’t control her than on the streets where I don’t know anything… 😣😢
Nah kick them out until they learn respect...
No. That's the mindset that has parents allowing their kids to do whatever they want. She should've raised that girl right from the start, not had her, or given her up for adoption. She knew she couldn't care for a child but made the choice to have one and keep it anyway. "Well at least she's at home" isn't an acceptable response to this mess.
@@lolasmom5816 wooow, education isn’t everything, and I’ve never seen intolerance leading anyone anywhere… but your kids are probably perfect cause you were perfect… that’s the vibe I’m getting from comment like that.
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 Or until the police knock on your door and tell you your kid is dead\had an overdose\prison... If she kicks her out the girl will never come back. She already knows she can't count on her mom for emotional support, it's just a convenient place to stay and get food. If she kicks her out she will find herself a homeless, maybe selling her body or on drugs and she will convince herself it's better there than at her mom['s house because now "she's free". And who knows, if she regrets it maybe she won't think her mom will take her back? Kicking her out will not be the right solution in my opinion, and it won't make her learn respect (your earn respect, people don't just respect you after having it rough for a while).
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 Kicking them out won't teach respect.
In many US States, Sharon would be charged with CDM, for allowing Martin to have continued access to her daughter, knowing that sexual activity was taking place.
As she should.
cdm? please explain.
@@Scriptorsilentum CDM: Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor
Ouch! I see... 😶
When the worker asked Martin if he wanted a baby... the proper question is.. are you ready to raise a child for the next 20 years?? Will you be able to support your own family??
Why let that boy stay there? ESPECIALLY with her 14yr old daughter? !
It takes a village to raise a child. But you cant expect your "village" and the support around you to be the only ones caring for your children. Your the parent at the end of the day BE A LOVING STABLE PARENT TO YOUR CHILD.
Why is Sian living at a home for pregnant teens and Martin is there?! He should be banned from being there at all, and Sian should be banned from going to Martin's house.
uh what? she does not live at a home for pregnant teens she live with her mother
I will never understand why families that can’t care for themselves always seem to have multiple animals that they also cannot care for.
I'm not sure why this is about poverty. There are a lot of decent poor people with morals and good families. This is more about total dysfunction. It was good to see the boys happy.
I was a child advocate. A lot of people can’t afford cleaning supplies, but simple things like sweeping the floor don’t occur to people whose parents and grandparents didn’t do that. People learn by example.
Birth control for the teenage girl would have been helpful. The mom needed a backbone and strict, not a pushover.
The teenage girl refuses to go to school, letting her friends go wild, no structure,awful parenting, and pushover. I am with the neighbor get rid fo the friends, or call the cops, or CPS
I think teenage boys that get a child pregnant like Martin did, should get a mandatory vasectomy.
I wish that when you have somebody under a certain age (say 25) that are becoming parents for the first time that some kind of parenting classes were mandatory. There are so many people out there having kids at young ages that have almost no common sense as to what it takes to raise a child....or if they do have the common sense they don't know how to put it into action or don't care to....and it's usually because they are recreating the same patterns they were raised with.
I agree with that. I was a young mother and boy oh boy changing a play doll is so much different than an infant for sure! My children are older now but I remember back in that time it would have been nice to have those basic classes even though it sounds silly.
Ongoing classes
I am an RN and worked in postpartum for close to a decade. You know what surprised me? It was the teenage boys who seemed to be the best natural fathers. I still can't believe it, but it's true.
@@Denise_Suzannethe teens and young adults I've worked with tend to be more well informed/do their research, more assertive, open to new ideas, etc on top of asking for advice. The older parents are more likely to be set in their ways and to be trusting in authority figures.
First I’ve heard about this kind of program. Applauding UK for trying to help BEFORE things become unfixable. Canada should take note and the US is failing miserably at supporting vulnerable children.
You are not lying!
I’m a little worried about the older boy hitting and picking on the little boy. Anyone else see him back hand him?
Damn
Right after the 17 minute mark. Smacks him then pets his head when the lil one cried.
Did you grow up without siblings; that’s what kids do.
@Tisha - Yes, I saw it … poor little kid! I noticed that the older brother immediately rubbed it - like one does when bumping an elbow and then wondered if he (the older one) was, perhaps, sorry he did that?? Not sure how to interpret that. 🤔
Thats what siblings do.
Sharon has fully given up, which is so sad for Sian. She is a child, she isn't to blame for what is going on. Her mother never taught her that actions have consequences, why would she do anything different than what she is currently. She needs to be taken out of this home and placed with someone who knows what they are doing.
she was taken out of her sick mothers home because the mother was to depressed to take care of a child. But the idiot FIT worker helped the mother get Sian back after only 2 month. So this is all the social workers failing.
Did they even discuss the possibility of an abortion with her? This pregnancy can only end in disaster for all parties involved.
The cats were peeing everywhere because the litter box only got changed ONCE a week with FIVE cats. I have one cat and change it every day. I can only imagine the overwhelming smell of urine in there
i had three Cats. Kept them fed and clean. Nothing makes a frigging Cat happier than to plunk itself right in the litterbox YOU JUST CLEANED. 😄
As an American, it’s sad how culture shocked I am after watching this documentary and a different one related to police officers in the UK. From the case workers, to the woman at the housing office, to the cops, everything is handled SO differently than it is in the US. It seems like people are actually caring, they constantly try to de-escalate situations, and they seem to care more about help people rebuild their lives. Wow.
The US is becoming a really intolerable place to live 😢
Either model is in contravention to the ideals this country is built on. Government doesn't belong in families.
@@williamrekow7513 What if the kids are sexually or violently abused
@@covenawhite4855: that would amount to a crime sufficient to jail the parent(s) in question... Problem solved.
Come on,contraception is free and available in Uk!!!!!!
And that’s still not good enough for some people, it seems. They probably want to be paid to go and get it!
When I was a single mother struggling on welfare how I wish I had been given a social worker. Maybe things are different now, but when my son was only 6 months old I ended up in hospital weighing 83 pounds, with a massive pelvic infection. My GP told me to go on welfare and I had no idea how. She said look in the yellow pages under W. I had an abusive husband, who I had married at 18 due to being pregnant from ignorance basically. It was many years ago now, but I often think how different things would have been if someone had stepped in. My parents just continued to cut me down and the spiral continued. My son is now 40 and I am just now getting my life on track and developing self esteem. I didn't come from a 'lower class' family either, but I had zero guidance from anyone as we were kept isolated, and then the poverty kept me isolated.
5:08 "...they get watered"!!!! They're not plants. The grass outside gets more water than these poor children. (These adults in this home are far far from 'The Waltons').
I feel like Sian likely didn't get the help she needed to properly grieve after her first pregnancy ended in loss, and so she refused the birth control in the hopes that she would get pregnant to be able to have a child to heal after the one she lost. As a loss mom, I get it. As the mom of a daughter, I'm very sad for her that she let her life go that way.
First thing to do is get rid of that damn phone
Yeah no.
I do think it is important to remember that many people who live in poverty did not cause their own poverty.
@bee jade cooL
Being born into poverty? Happens.
Staying in poverty? Your own fault buddy.
If the parents aren’t working there’s NO excuse for not being up for those boys! They should be getting tons of attention.
Good luck keeping the cats downstairs lol
Yes it’s time to reduce the pet population. Right now!!
This seems to have been a great service to these families. We all need help at one time or another.
It also appalls me how no one in that house knows the first thing about cat care. They’re going to limit their peeing to the first floor and not to the kids’ new rooms? Why are any of the cats peeing on ANY floors? 1) They still aren’t spayed or neutered despite being full grown or 2) they have ONE tiny litter box that they now change once per week with all those cats! I have 3 male cats, of course no peeing, and 4 giant litter boxes that are changed daily. It’ll always stink of pee in that house until someone teaches these families about the low-cost spay/neuter clinics. It’s one more box than the number of cats you have, changed daily.
Even if you're poor you needn't be dirty. Filthiness is a symptom of mental disease.
Really? I never read in any psych studies that filthiness automatically gives you mental health disorder
@@maryherrera7893 I didn't say that it did.
It’s more likely a symptom of laziness. Please stop making excuses for these people, you are part of the problem.
@@scruffyo4460 Actually with many mental health issues cleanliness can be an issue.
Extreme cleanliness can also be a sign of a mental illness. Being cleanly as a routine is appropriate but some people get crazy over a speck of dust.
Someone should contact Martin’s parents, no?
The most important thing is to set up routines and structures for a family, and if they never had it themselves they may struggle to implement it.
when I read the comments hear, all I can see and feel and hear is a lack of understanding and compassion. Mental illness is complex. Lack of social supports and understanding and stigma only continue to alienate and hurt people (no, not only hurt, destroy people). Most people who end up in these situations have experienced trauma and poverty itself and the accompanying stigma only makes things worse. In my work, judgment, anger, feeling "holier then thou" only continues to marginalize and hurt people- if you have experienced being in survival mode, you get this, if not, very easy to judge
Thank you for saying this. So much of what motivates us. Is unconscious and not as simple as schedules or tidying.
Notice how when the mother sees her son being cleaned up by his grandma from being sick she looks at them and just walks off like what kind of mother is that she is awful
I hope there will be a part 2!
These social workers are amazing people
We have a child and animals, and of course the place can get messy. But I clean it everyday. It's just your responsibility when you've decided to have kids and animals. I wouldn't want to live in a pigsty, and neither would my child or the animals. We're not rich at all, my partner works full time but I'm part time and studying. Cleaning doesn't really cost anything though, in the worst case just scrub stuff down with water and sweep the floors. Buy the cheapest, thinnest plastic bags and just throw stuff out. Done.
This is so sad to watch - namely for the children. It's great that the families have some level of authority watching them and their impact on the kids (lest some of the parents would inadvertently kill their kids) but no matter the level of intervention many of these adults will fail to meet an even baseline level of functioning as parents for the rest of their lives. I really hope no more kids are born to these parents, it's so painfully obvious that they can't cope
I am astounded. Absolutely floored by this.
After my divorce from thier father, I had 4 in elementary school, one in Jr. HIGH...3 girls, 2 boys...and no pregnancies under 21! You HAVE TO BE IN CHARGE! YOU ARE THE PARENT!
All this keeping the kids with the parents at any cost has to stop. Because the cost is children's lives. Sian at the very least needs to be removed. Both for her sake and her mother. She's 14, she must be separated from bad influences. Not foster care either where she can run away. Strict Boarding school with a high fence.
Agree very much
Your comment is dumb.