It happen to me too but I don’t think they can enforce anything. Refund policy is an European law, they can’t refuse to refund you. That’s probably how that Turkish guy got so many refund.
@@CaptainRx-ss3rt They can flag your returns for manual review. The 2 weeks, 2 hours thing is not law, it was just the cheapest way to abide by the law.
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Technically 2h isn't a hard limit. They don't say it out right, but all refund requests are reviewed by people and so they can bend rules a bit. I had once returned game with 3.5 hours played that I bought 15 days before refund.
@@boq780_2.0 yeah, but it is more of an exception to the rule than limits not being strict. The Day Before the scam was fully refunded, Concord was such a failure that few souls who bought it got their money back. This is just what I have remembered but there were other cases.
Yep, as long as you have a good reason. Ex. I've had a couple games where I told them (truthfully) that I couldn't get the game to run properly, and I spent 3-4 hours reinstalling and going through reddit to get the game working. They allowed my refunds.
If i remember right the 2 hour rule is they will refund it basically no questions asjed. After 2 hours requires a person to review it. Means they do t have as many to manually check but also stops people fjrcing a 2 hour decent game then suddenly bevoming refund worthy
thats a cardigan which were developed for the military. Exact opposite of a womans sweater. You must dress like an npc teenager if you assume its a womans sweater
Reminds me of how one game dev specifically lowered the price of his game in certain countries so it was affordable, which helped stop piracy because so often it’s just people who can’t afford it
There is a limit on how often you can request refunds though. I had around 3 games I tried and didn't like and refunded within the span of about a month and Steam said I had to slow down and had done it too often in a short period of time and they wouldn't accept my refund requests for a while (or something like that) if I continued to do it.
I've actually not had this problem, refunded multiple games bought some more then refunded some of those too. I suspect it has a lot to do with the reasons you give/write and maybe just how often you buy games in general.
That person is the polar opposite of me. 900 games in library. But most have less than 2 hours... 😅 Totally thought you weren't wearing a shirt at first.
There's a speed running category called refund‰, I think it's only a TH-cam thing and I haven't seen that many videos on it but the idea is to speed run a game before the refund time is up so you can return it if you don't like it (often blind speed runs so no practice before hand)
Even more fun fact: having the return policy actually drives up positive sales rather than harming them. Ie people feel safer buying and end up keeping
I know this is completely unsolicited and off topic, i love the cardigan, but you may want to reconsider wearing a shirt that is a perfect match to your skin tone 😅
this is a turkish policy one time. My friends and I needed an electric stove for only one specific time and we bought one and used it and returned it with no problem cause we've used it for under 2 hours. I'm surprised it's not like in other countries.
people have always known this, and, have not really abused it to be honest. its absolutely astonishing valve still has the two hour refund policy in this era of extreme greed from every single company. I hope gaben never ever dies.
I do sometimes try games and then when I don't like them I will refund them but often I'll play much longer than 2h because they're really good. I thought about buying like 60€ games or something to try then but it's too risky.
You can play as many hours as you wish, as long as you didn't connect to the internet before logging into Steam account and while playing a Steam game. No hours will be added to the counter.
after Justin said that; n my perspective they will be a music streaming service with a feature called stream deck and still having legal issues brx6edgfz
You can return with more than 2 hours, you just have to have a good reason. A good but extreme example is the Sony HD2. 2 hours is the max for automatic refunds, if you have more you need to make an actual request.
I have a modded PS3. Older console but now I can run homebrew and the console no longer cares about licenses. Next is to jailbreak a PS4 for the same reason. I've never had a Steam account.
Well at least in some european countries you were able to buy a physical disc and would get your money back after 2 weeks. Also you had places similar to blockbuster and you borrowed a game for a dollar per day.
If you can show a bug that is ruining your game play or lag or something like that they will return your money after like 10 or so hours because it can take that long to encounter problems like that in some games
At this point might as well just pirate. No one benefits from this, if anything devs might get penalized and lose out a little bit of money over the refund.
I wonder what payment gateway Steam uses, because chargebacks are like $25 on some popular ones. Walmart, for instance, has their own payment gateway they coded from the ground up to avoid BS charges like that. Wonder if Steam did the same.
I think this is kinda shitty to do. To my understanding, the developer is the one that pays for that refund while steam keeps their 30% cut meaning they lose money. I get refunding stuff from time to time, gaming the system to get free games is just a little selfish
@ Sure, but the devs are still losing 30% of the sale cost on each refund. For big companies, this is negligible. But for smaller studios, it would be a death sentence if a sizable portion of players started doing this Also, I’m not saying the return window is bad I just hope more people don’t start doing this. Because if it becomes a big enough problem for devs, valve might make the refund system less consumer friendly and more restrictive It’s an example of a few bad apples ruining a good thing for everyone else.
Even doing this for 8 hours a day year-round, not including time spent installing the games (let's assume they plan out what to play ahead of time and games are downloaded during the other 16 hours a day) it would take about 10 or 11 years to do this. I'm gonna go ahead and say that either something's fishy about this story, or it's a team of people if it's real. (It was only quick head maths, can someone please double check this? I'm too stupid to know if I calculated it right)
Fun fact: you can 100% portal under 2 hours. You can do everything in the game and then return it.
Yeah but did you enjoy it tho? There is play to win and then there is play for fun. 2 hours ain't no fun.
Including co-op?
But the game is $2 during sale, just give valve some money.
@@applesarefumthere is no co op in Portal 1.
@@vladislavohremenco3472 I played Portal 1 for fun and still beat it in under two hours.
Apparently if you try to refund too much stuff on steam in a short time frame they will give you a warning about it. Happened to someone I knew
It happen to me too but I don’t think they can enforce anything. Refund policy is an European law, they can’t refuse to refund you. That’s probably how that Turkish guy got so many refund.
@@CaptainRx-ss3rt well yea but they could just ban ur account or stop you from buying new games
@@Buggy_TM ur dumb lol
@@Buggy_TMno they couldn't, that would be the same as refusing the refund
@@CaptainRx-ss3rt They can flag your returns for manual review. The 2 weeks, 2 hours thing is not law, it was just the cheapest way to abide by the law.
Homie went with the skin tone shirt today.
I THOUGHT HE JUST HAD THE SWEATSHIRT ON
Thought he was entering the Hefner phase of his career.
I thought he had a strange crease on his neck for a good 15 seconds
Noticed it too, I almost thought he just sitting there, naked with just the half open sweater on 😂
As a turkish guy games are expensive on steam (for Turkish people) so all glory to steam return system
same here in egypt,our average salary of 80$ a month is written on some games
Especially since they removed the Lira
thats why price localisation exists... sucks they dont do it/dont do it enough in Turkey
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@@snowman2395they used to do it but they reverted it in november 2023
Technically 2h isn't a hard limit. They don't say it out right, but all refund requests are reviewed by people and so they can bend rules a bit. I had once returned game with 3.5 hours played that I bought 15 days before refund.
I always thought it was 3 hours, like every game I've refunded was over 2 hours
I think you can also get refunded if something happens to the game
@@boq780_2.0 yeah, but it is more of an exception to the rule than limits not being strict. The Day Before the scam was fully refunded, Concord was such a failure that few souls who bought it got their money back. This is just what I have remembered but there were other cases.
Yep, as long as you have a good reason. Ex. I've had a couple games where I told them (truthfully) that I couldn't get the game to run properly, and I spent 3-4 hours reinstalling and going through reddit to get the game working. They allowed my refunds.
If i remember right the 2 hour rule is they will refund it basically no questions asjed. After 2 hours requires a person to review it. Means they do t have as many to manually check but also stops people fjrcing a 2 hour decent game then suddenly bevoming refund worthy
i gotta know what 400 games were so good he had to keep them, and even 100% them, this guys taste must be impeccable
because some of the games clocks run even when the game is not logged in.... blocking the ability to return them
I thought he didn’t have a shirt on 😂
same
It looks like a woman's sweater...
@@Nomadmandudehas to be
thats a cardigan which were developed for the military. Exact opposite of a womans sweater. You must dress like an npc teenager if you assume its a womans sweater
Shows the effects of the turkish economy and dollarification of turkish steam very well i say
Reminds me of how one game dev specifically lowered the price of his game in certain countries so it was affordable, which helped stop piracy because so often it’s just people who can’t afford it
Steam tends to do that to currencies that lose a lot of value. My guess is it's a logistics simplification.
It says 15000 games, dude was doing this way before that
Honestly, if I were Steam I’d love this guy, even pay him to do this. Reviews are everything especially when you have a reliable name behind them.
There is a limit on how often you can request refunds though. I had around 3 games I tried and didn't like and refunded within the span of about a month and Steam said I had to slow down and had done it too often in a short period of time and they wouldn't accept my refund requests for a while (or something like that) if I continued to do it.
I've actually not had this problem, refunded multiple games bought some more then refunded some of those too. I suspect it has a lot to do with the reasons you give/write and maybe just how often you buy games in general.
New speedrun category: any% most number of games while still getting a steam refund for each
Getting tech updates from Professor X is pretty awesome
That's actually a nice sweater.
Damn all the shades of color and his shirt was that one 😂
That person is the polar opposite of me. 900 games in library. But most have less than 2 hours... 😅
Totally thought you weren't wearing a shirt at first.
There's a speed running category called refund‰, I think it's only a TH-cam thing and I haven't seen that many videos on it but the idea is to speed run a game before the refund time is up so you can return it if you don't like it (often blind speed runs so no practice before hand)
What is that percent sign?
@gabrielstrong7322 thats the permille sign
@gabrielstrong7322 if you look up unicode search you may find websites that let you copy and paste various characters and see what they are
I mean the Garten of BanBan refund% speedrun is proof that such a thing is very doable.
Even more fun fact: having the return policy actually drives up positive sales rather than harming them. Ie people feel safer buying and end up keeping
Bro rocking the bare chest cardigan combo...Oh no nevermind
I miss ya @funhaus 😢
Steam Roulette
Demo Disk
Wheelhaus
"This random *Turkish* steam account-"
makes sense.
Didn’t expect anything less from turks(I’m a turk)
There is a TH-camr who 100% runs the resident evil games before returning them
It could be possible with some of the old ones, but maybe 30% of them
Whoa that is a sick shirt.
That means they have basically played every single game ever uploaded to steam.
This is how I found out there was a cool math games game
This is like the oldest news ever. Plenty of people are gaming the steam returns. It’s a whole TH-cam series as well.
As a Turkish person,i am proud. Our economy is shit so i can't really blame the dude.
That cloth fancy af
Hey dude I hope your son gets better and you can move back to SA having you there would make it a better place.
This is a good thing if he writes you say basic but maybe meaningful reviews.
Fun fact: I was able to return a game with more than 2 hours on it, and it was also the fastest processed refund I've done
Same, but it was 2.1 hours
@Dhi_-vd1wd funnily enough, my time on it was 2 hr 1 min
Bro is speedrunning these games 😂😎
Bro’s becoming Lex Luthor 😭
The 418 games they kept must be fucking fire.
I know this is completely unsolicited and off topic, i love the cardigan, but you may want to reconsider wearing a shirt that is a perfect match to your skin tone 😅
2 hours is insufficient to render a valid statement about many games.
Debatable, most games I play I get a solid understanding and opinion of them within about 90 ish minutes. The main hurdle is the genre really.
@@Charzikenwhat about games like hollow knight or factorio? Where the game picks up pace only after some time
It's a start. I wish more games have demos tbh
@@mooki-forever Factorio does have a demo
@@Fighter_Blue I know, I'm just saying that if it didn't have a demo it would be really hard to judge the game in only 2 hours
sounds like fun actually
Sick, props to them.
A speedrunners dream
Game developers will have to step up and work harder to make the gameplay much longer than 2 hours.
Speed runners: challenge accepted 😾
this is a turkish policy one time. My friends and I needed an electric stove for only one specific time and we bought one and used it and returned it with no problem cause we've used it for under 2 hours. I'm surprised it's not like in other countries.
people have always known this, and, have not really abused it to be honest. its absolutely astonishing valve still has the two hour refund policy in this era of extreme greed from every single company. I hope gaben never ever dies.
Steam had special prices for Argentina and Türkiye. They practically removed that. It's hard for us to buy games
Bro is playing demo of all games XD
He's robbing himself of the rich experiences of quality games but ultimately there's nothing wrong with whst this serial refunder is doing.
...I have seen so many speedrun videos about trying to complete a game in two hours to get a refund on it. It's not just this guy.
I do sometimes try games and then when I don't like them I will refund them but often I'll play much longer than 2h because they're really good. I thought about buying like 60€ games or something to try then but it's too risky.
DEMO DISC I haven’t heard that in years 👴🏽
Return% speedruns are crazy tbh 😂
Blud is probably legit than actual *game journo* out there.
You can play as many hours as you wish, as long as you didn't connect to the internet before logging into Steam account and while playing a Steam game. No hours will be added to the counter.
But what if steam was a streaming platform?
Then it would get renamed to “Stream” and probably have legal issues because they’re calling the console the “Stream Deck”
@@HamBrineif it was a streaming platform it probably wouldn’t make a console
after Justin said that; n my perspective they will be a music streaming service with a feature called stream deck and still having legal issues brx6edgfz
You can return with more than 2 hours, you just have to have a good reason. A good but extreme example is the Sony HD2. 2 hours is the max for automatic refunds, if you have more you need to make an actual request.
Bro is the gamer
thank you for clarifying that it may not be true
Last time I was this early rocks and sand hadn't been convinced they could think yet
I have a modded PS3. Older console but now I can run homebrew and the console no longer cares about licenses. Next is to jailbreak a PS4 for the same reason.
I've never had a Steam account.
Ok 😊
I'd like to see a speed runner beat as many games as they can in just under 2 hours....the steam return speed run. 😂
This is exactly what happens if you remove localized currency and Lira in general
Guys that's round about 30k hours of gameplay give or take 3-4k that's just about 3.5 years straight of gaming.
Aligns well with the Turkish economy 🗣️
Under a minute gang
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I mean- people made it a whole second game for BanBan XD
*Dr. EVIL* 🤙🏻👄
That "turkish something something" steam account just cracked about 6000 paid games courtesy by steam.
2 hours is just the automatic limit, you can still refund after that but then you need to write why you are refunding it and have a person review it
Ah yes, the real review bombing. Aka, I haven't even made it out of the "It's new phase" before giving an opinion on the full package.
Well at least in some european countries you were able to buy a physical disc and would get your money back after 2 weeks. Also you had places similar to blockbuster and you borrowed a game for a dollar per day.
you really need to donate that shirt to a charity bro.
I've seen people 100% re2 and re2 in under 2 hours and return them. I'm pretty sure it was dante ravioli
I'm sure if Valve had a problem with it they would stop it for that account anyway.
If you can show a bug that is ruining your game play or lag or something like that they will return your money after like 10 or so hours because it can take that long to encounter problems like that in some games
I tried that.. Didn't finish the games though.. Just using it like demo..and then steam gave me a warning!😂🤣
The balidlocks thing keeps making me think you're Lex Luthor. Not a bad look just a bad guy look haha. Maybe it's the sweater.
As a Turk,That's the most Turkish thing to do LOL
It will all disappear once our lord and savior Gabe Newell passes away
Get the reviewer to do a game review round up for the channel I want to see if they're a good critic for me.
i'm not gonna blame him tho, the prices are awful here
So…Where did you get that sweater/cardigan?
My guy, don't act like you're not rocking that sweater! Lol
At this point might as well just pirate. No one benefits from this, if anything devs might get penalized and lose out a little bit of money over the refund.
I thought they already could notice if someone used that exploit
feel bad for their internet
That means he played all the nsfw games too 😨😨
Now I understand speed runners…. Finish your ga,e within 2 hours and return it 😂😂
I wonder what payment gateway Steam uses, because chargebacks are like $25 on some popular ones. Walmart, for instance, has their own payment gateway they coded from the ground up to avoid BS charges like that. Wonder if Steam did the same.
Of course he's Turkish 😂
Alright Agent 47
Me: sees the word "turkish man"
**ah yes a normal turkish gamer**
Sa
2h is the limit for automatic refunds. After that steam support decides to accept or deny it and you have to give a reason
I returned star trucker with 1.9 hours played, it was not worth the price tag
well, if he's turkish and has 400 games on his library, unless they're all free I guess sorta must check out?
I think this is kinda shitty to do. To my understanding, the developer is the one that pays for that refund while steam keeps their 30% cut meaning they lose money.
I get refunding stuff from time to time, gaming the system to get free games is just a little selfish
Does it matter at all? Because if the return windows didn’t exist, this guy still probably wouldn’t buy the game
@ Sure, but the devs are still losing 30% of the sale cost on each refund. For big companies, this is negligible. But for smaller studios, it would be a death sentence if a sizable portion of players started doing this
Also, I’m not saying the return window is bad I just hope more people don’t start doing this. Because if it becomes a big enough problem for devs, valve might make the refund system less consumer friendly and more restrictive
It’s an example of a few bad apples ruining a good thing for everyone else.
meanwhile if he pirated most games nobody would even know anything happened so no harm would be done.
15000 games and he has to play two hours to drop a review so he must have played at least for 7 years if he was playing 12 hours a day
That is a nice shirt
Even doing this for 8 hours a day year-round, not including time spent installing the games (let's assume they plan out what to play ahead of time and games are downloaded during the other 16 hours a day) it would take about 10 or 11 years to do this. I'm gonna go ahead and say that either something's fishy about this story, or it's a team of people if it's real.
(It was only quick head maths, can someone please double check this? I'm too stupid to know if I calculated it right)
Most of the games are free actually, that's why theres so many reviews compared to games, they don't count for the games count.
Steam is a cool demo disk i played stanly parable and completed it all in 20 minutes i got a refund and got the delux edition still getting through it
Offline steam mode DON'T count play time. Or used to not.
yeah, used to. big update about a year ago stopped that
There a steam name account somewhere someone has 20,000 games on there game history list lol