You Don't Have to Wargame COMPETITIVELY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Most of the wargaming news is Games Workshop and competitive play. But is that everything?
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If you buy a wargame, it's then yours. Play it in WHATEVER WAY you find most fun.
Don't let anyone tell you that you're "having fun wrong" in your wargaming hobby.
as someone who played video games for 25 years, this is why I switch to war gaming. No loot boxes, no glitchy-unplayable software, just your imagination.
Having fun wrong is the epitome of most hobbies these days.
Tournament play? I don’t even play at the local level, I’m just in it for the hobby aspect. It’s so nice just to watch all those books and updates fly by without nary a concern
you're missing out
@@spacemanx9595 yeah, missing out on being broke or not being able to afford better stuff then rule books and there is a hell of alot better stuff then rule books in life.
I remember playing a small Firestorm Armada tournament in Reading a few years ago, everything fun and friendly, and the 40k tournament next door complained about the noise from us laughing and chatting. They take things far to seriously
Back in 2015 WG released Rick Priestley’s Gates of Antares. A real hidden gem. Amazing order dice based system. Free rules and possibly ones of the best communies out there. Never has felt down after a game, even if being smashed. Have not played 40k in ages, love the miniatures. Thanks for he video
I have the GoA rulebook, I couldn't get over the bad layout, otherwise it's on par with a Rick Priestley joint.
@@JPGotrokkits agree, I would check second edition - streamlined and very well organised
I have never been interested in tournament play. Maybe it's because I come from an RPG background first and really got into miniature gaming back in the day through the old Hero Quest game, but I've always just liked getting together with friends, taking out our little warbands, and going at one another but in a fun, casual way. That's probably another reason I'm drawn to games with a more narrative structure like Frostgrave, Stargrave, This Is Not A Test, Zona Alfa, etc. I care more about having a fun experience and telling a cool little story than "beating" someone. Who cares about a tournament. I want to hear about how you were sneaking through an exclusion zone when the dice rolls for an encounter went south and your stalkers were ambushed by a gang of drooling mutant children that came charging out of an abandoned school.
Exactly
This is probably the most reasonable response I’ve seen so far since the balance data sheet
One of reasons why I am focusing on Frostgrave is the fact, that you can play that, not only co-op (or competitively), but also as single player (PvM - player versus monsters). And I am focusing on single player and co-op. And because there is campaign - you will lose people, you will "hire" new people, you will learn new spells, new skills... That it is not just one battle here, other there... but there is story, there is continuation.
Since I have limited resources, I only focus at moment for Frostgrave. But sooner or later I want also sci-fi setting (if nothing else, I want paint sci-fi stuff too). Dropzone Commander and Beyond Gates of something-something (Antares?) looks interesting... but when time comes, I will look more with detail. I also know existence of Stargrave... but who knows, maybe I want something different in that point?
Now I feel like I need "The filthiest of casuals" on a t-shirt xD
I like the idea, but I feel like I might get sued by the “Filthy Casual” t-shirt company. Thanks for watching!
wut!!!
but I had plans to go to GW tournament and tell them that my elf sisters of battle with a variety of miniatures not from GW was totally legal!!
You have crushed my dreams.
Good stuff! There's definitely a place for both casual and competitive play, but it very much depends on having players who share our same mindset. If you and your opponent are both playing the game with different goals, that's where a lot of bad experiences can happen. I like the occasional competitive game but figuring out that i'm much more into a narrative, casual, laid back experience has vastly improved my enjoyment from the hobby. Just to do a bit of crass self promotion (sorry!), I have some casual style battle report videos on my channel, if anyone is interested in that sort of thing
Speaking of GW pushing players away.... That's why I play old, dead games with my friends in a garage. We don't have to worry about rule changes, and we can make up any house rules we want to keep the games fun and exciting.
The best way as some of the older rules are more fun. I used to play WHF back in the day with the magic cards - still think they were amazing and fun to play.
I don't have a problem with rule changes or new editions of the game. The problem I have is when the rulebooks for said new editions are about $80 and are already invalidated by the time you bought it, when any given edition lacks playable rules for all armies, and when the edition only lasts a few years before you have to buy a dozen more $80 rulebooks.
But yeah. I would love to find some 2nd edition players so I can enjoy that trainwreck again. The edition we've been playing was suspiciously suggested by one friend of mine, whose army just happened to have a good release in that edition.
S.O.S. Morse code in the teaser? Save our ship? Sci-fi ship-based skirmish confirmed?
That is what I am wondering as well.
Right, how is this not higher in the comment’s? Hope this means a release sometime this summer!
I started wargaming when I was 25, now I am in my 50s. As GW prices went up I dropped GW. I have an Infinity Army when I get the competative itch but only play locally and I am certain I will loose but I do it mostly to hang out. The rest of the time, tournaments are at my home or someone else's home when we can gather 8 to 10 people and setup the garage in the summer. Last time was memorial day and the next will be 4th of July while flipping burgers. For anyone new, take the time to enjoy the game and spend the min. you need to play with your friends. Unless you are in an area with a large number of competative players with lot of tournaments and you have a lot of time and money to spend, casual play is far better for most people.
Enjoy the hobby the way you want but make sure it stays fun and does not become work. I feel like a lot of competative play is more work than play and only the people with the most time and money are able to win.
also was that a teaser for the next snarling badger game? i am excited.
I enjoyed playing with some of my friends back in the days, but some not so much..
Read 3 of us wanted to be "just have fun and follow the rules etc" but give some room for "agreed upon rules etc".
The last one though, he was in it just to win, regardless of fun or rules - read the type that bent the rules to their favor.
After some time he kept on asking if we wanted to play, but ehem "no we gave it up" (we lied I know - we where horrible persons)..
I used to buy and field army units that I thought were cool looking or had a bit of fluff I enjoyed. I didn't care if my army was "unbalanced" it was about the fun of the game. I used to hate it when some competitive player go "why you field this and that and drone on about statistics" I didn't care. It was always "Your fielding Stormvermin???" Followed by a shake of the head and tutting (I was a young teenager at the time). Lol
Cheeky teaser at the end. Was that morse code?
On the flip side, it can be really, really difficult to find a group to play casually with. Years ago, I got into HeroClix because a bunch of my comic-fan friends were playing. We had a really fun casual group going. When I moved across the country, I tried a couple of times to find players, but only found tournament play, which was cruelly cutthroat. I had the same experience with X-Wing and with Star Trek. When I started collecting Star Wars: Legion last year, I did so with the clear understanding that there wasn't even a tournament scene near me (in a fairly densely populated part of Southern California). My wife, who played Warhammer: Fantasy years ago, recently bought the Age of Sigmar: Dominion starter (it was half off at our FLGS), mostly so she would have a bunch of minis to paint, but also because I assured her I would play with her. We have a huge group of friends who play RPGs and board games, but none who play miniature wargames.
One of the biggest reasons I pretty much fell out of the wargaming scene is because of competitive players. My local environment is very heavy on keeping up with all the competitive stuff, which there's nothing wrong with, but it was almost impossible to find players that didn't want to "min-max" and make tournament lists. Even "garage hammer" became the LVO. I'm sure you can guess I don't enjoy that. But I wish more people would (in my area) would be less competitive. But then again, if that's fun for everyone else, who am I to make them play games that aren't fun?
2:19 That got me. Hah.
Absolutely true. I've been wargaming for about a decade, played in maybe a dozen leagues and tournaments, and am consistently in the bottom half!
I appreciate a good point in the hobby is customisation, do whatever you want, be creative and have fun enjoying it in your own way. That being said, it is a pity there is not a standard of a good gameplay with mechanics beyond a large and complex rulebook, unbalanced lists, measuring and throwing dices. Mechanics used in board games could be interested but GW does not have an interest in making a good game, they have an interest in selling new miniatures. Even initiatives like The 9th Age carry on the faults of GW and just try to maintain what was existing. I guess one day one company will get it right and deliver a product that will meet demands, particularly for new players. Probably with an App or something like that... Some kind of virtual tabletop and you can use your own minis, taking ownership of the backbone (standard mechanics, calculations, events...) and leaving space to the community to enhance it and not demanding regular payments for a new made up thing nobody demanded.
Very wise words as always, well said.
I’ve always liked gaming, of all kinds, but I’ve never been super competitive. Everyone wants to win, but the game just needs to be fun. It’s my hobby, not a career. While I understand that tournaments may make the game store’s cash register ding, a great thing, getting your gaming supplies and models from the store does the same thing. Great video!
nice shirt
What's ZERO??!!!
When GW looked like it was going to tank (again), I was thinking of making a rules set for their minis (and Mutant Chronicles and Warpath minis) called "Men in Shoulder Pads."
Competitive shifts made me leave video games. Screw professional anything with video games. Pro players whine and complain about the game not being tailored for their garbage viewpoints.
Prussian General Staff: *Clears throat*
One of the great things about the different generations of rulebooks is that once you find one with your friend/play group that you all like. You can stick with that set of rules forever.
Only if you can find the codex for your army.
I've always considered that basement gaming with your friends on your own terrain is the best way to go.
And more fun and you can field units that maybe naff but to you look cool or have good fluff and nobody cares as long as you can have a good laugh and a few beers
Tournament gaming is still such a minor part of this hobby no matter what games you play
Except the only people in my area only play competitively. So while it may be a small part of the hobby it’s the only gaming in my area which is why I’ve kinda flaked from the hobby
I disagree. Yes organized tournaments may be minor. But the “competitive” game style is prevalent. Specially in 40k
Lol. Minority rules in the modern day. With social media and how pros live off fame, competitive is pushed to the forefront of everything everyone sees when no one will ever experience it.
Yet the players mimic the play style they see in tournaments because it's the easiest way to win. So for casual players it becomes terrible to play, or worst they have to play competitive as well.
Well it's heavily promoted because it brings money.
Even tourney players would spend the most simply because they will always buy what is strongest and since that gets rotated they are not only paying a premium but in masses.
I was never interested in tournament play until I got into X-Wing Miniatures and started going to local events. I had a ton of fun. The players were, with a few exceptions, great people and great players. I went as far as Wet Coast GT in Canada and all around the western Washington area. Even losing was fun, and I lost a lot of games in the beginning. I got to the point where I was planning and being a TO at my local gaming pub. Covid shot that all to h***, of course. Anyway, I encourage anyone to at least try a store event. It might not be for you, but I thought that, and changed my mind.
Competitive play wrecks so much of the game. It makes only a small number of models valid (why would you field anything but the best), it twists lore for the sake of power, it makes bad rolls frustrating rather than hilarious, it makes things extra tense when you do things like template weapons and even movement, it makes rule disagreements extra explosive, it can leave you feeling rubbish after spending 80 hours or whatever painting your army.
I also regularly see people complain about the "barrier of entry" for new players, only to have the complainer list off half a dozen optional extra rules that are only "needed" in a tournament environment, and the time it takes to build a 2,000 point army (again, not needed outside tournaments). They then blame GW for the community forcing this barrier of entry on said new player. It's a huge pet peeve of mine that they don't seem to understand that literally all a new player needs is their codex and even then, not always, 'cause a few learner scenarios can be done using the free rules found in the build instructions.
A community focus on competitive play slowly chokes communities to death, and I have seen it multiple times. It's happening again in 40k, too.
What I will never understand is that D&D is all about the customization of rules and mechanics, but Warhammer is more rigid than any video game I’ve played when I see competitive and some “pub matches.”
Totally agree.. playing with optimized lists is supremely boring. As soon as you attach some sort of “prize” to a tournament, people lose their minds and only want to build something that is auto-win.
No one wants to take the time to explore an army and build something that has a cool backstory, it’s all about how can I crush my opponent on turn one.
And when it comes to GW it makes them change the rules twice a month and add stupid rules over stupid rules.
I'll take it further: out of all the people who wargame, the percentage that do tournaments is minimal. Most games are between friends or people that become friends because of gaming. In fact, for the total noob, it's worth remembering that you don't have to play at all if that's not really your thing.
This hobby has three main parts:-
The craft side - the building, painting, and collecting.
The gaming.
The lore (esp. 40k, of course, but others are also going down that route because it's immersive and therefore popular).
You can get into any of those aspects in any combination you want.
I see this a lot. I love painting and collecting. But I also enjoy putting my army on a table for a casual game.
People in my area play competitively period and now I don’t play, collect, or even paint anymore. Because putting plastic to table was always the end goal. I can’t do that because I get criticised for my build choice.
@@korniestpatch I have a similar problem but instead I just moved to aos which has a better community (or at least the rules are not as insane)
@@rmkarros no they are. The only guy here that plays AOS plays with 3 terrorgeists and is the reason why no one plays AOS anymore
@@korniestpatch don't know man 40k is jank and despite the issues in aos i find its a more engaging game (i.e there is more i can do during my opinents fase then in 40k and vise versa). also the fact you quit because of one dude is just sad man as it's a fun game.
edit: will full admit also our aos community where I'm at is just more whole some and supporting compared to 40k so that makes a big diffrence (we have alot of dad hammer up here in vermont)
@@korniestpatch I dunno man, you sound more like the problem. I doubt everyone is a total a$$. If people question your list just say all you are looking for is a casual game. If you go into a competitive game and dont speak up, I'm not sure what you expect to happen.
Why don't people get you can play what ever you want, however you want. Every iteration GW throws out is to push models and sell books little else. Great take Uncle Atom as always.
The 15mm community does a lot better with that. Other than Flames of War and DBA/DBM, there aren't many competitive 15mm games out there. My current 15mm Stargrunt armies will end up including minis from Ground Zero Games, Rebel Minis, Khurasan, and Brigade.
Just to add, my first games of Kill Team was via the Command Point discord, vs. some of the TOP competitive players. They treated me SO NICE. Obviously I said I was a newbie, and this was during the peak of the pandemic start over TTS. I was lucky to play even against the top KT player who walked me through the deeper details, and no one was salty, cutting corners, or being a jerk. It was for the love of the game and the brilliance of the tactics. Sometimes, maybe often, the "competitive" players can be the kindest, most experienced people you could hope to run into as a new player.
Well spoken. The main thing is that all players should be having fun.
Does that fun “zero” thingy mean I’ll have to hobby in seven days or something bad will happen ?! Interesting!
I'm only in it for the giggles, like my double ones regularly visiting.
I live in a deadzone in the rural southern US. If I want to play anything substantial, it's pretty much competitive play or bust. And I hate it! This is a reason why I am a HUGE fan of Warcry. I can actually play with of all people my wife, who has been really excited about it. So much so that she is now fully engaged in the hobby (she's been googling new warbands.) Between that and committing myself more to the assembly/painting side of the hobby, I've fortunately been able to keep the the passion alive.
You’re right about a rule set and an army book. Many other systems such as Bolt Action are at their best using just that method. Firefight by Mantic goes further with the army lists bundled in with the rule set. Competitive play is fine for some but for many mere muggles and especially new starters the best approach is to get miniatures you like the look of and enjoy painting.
I like playing with the competitive rules, but you won't catch me at a tournament trying to win. I'll bring my fun list and have a good time even if all it means is that I pad the number of entrants.
I like honest wargamer Robs mmo analogy, people want to play end game content, competitive 40K has the illusion of end game content so people want to play that, doesn’t they should. As someone who’s been in a bleeding edge wow guild at one point I can relate as being on that edge warps all perception and fun derived from the game
Eh nothing like mmo. If there was an analogy* it would be everyone wants to hit challenger in league when they could be having more fun playing blinds.
@@jakea3950 it’s very much like playing an mmo at a ‘competitive’ level (ie going for server/world firsts). As it has the same collection aspect
Ive been playing for years, purely for fun :) never tournament :) i play ww2 different scales and love Eldar! Girl power ;) ❤❤
Playing non competitively is also a state of mind.
Playing in tournaments have been some of the best non competitive play I have had. The bottom tables are where the fun happens. No one at the top tables ever look like they are enjoying themselves, it’s pretty hilarious to those who lurk around at the bottom where nothing is taken that seriously.
Accurate.
When I was playing MTG competitively it was rough having to be a Rules Nazi because you never know if the other person made an honest mistake or if they're a lying cheater. I knew more than a few cheaters at a small store.
I've seen many a Rule Nazi being caught out by a particular unit special rules - and ranted and ranted about it until the other player showed them the army rule book and special rule. Well all you heard from the rule nazi was "slam slam slam" " this game is broken or this unit is OP" just because the battle tide had changed or he was losing lol.
It’s hard when all your friends play competitively.
this, even if its not serousely competative play like that, my local group still likes to use the most up-to-date match play/competative rules.
I just make daemon war machines for fun. Hello
"Your hobby started by a guy named Wells stealing kids' toys."
40k really needs two sets of rules. One for the tournaments, and another that don't change just for the sake of changing. I've been playing since the '90s and every player I used played with back then eventually rage quit the hobby because of a GW rebalance or rules reboot to 'keep it fresh' for the tournament players.
I read somewhere that it was pandering to the Torrnie players was one catalyst to the downfall of WHF. AOS came out and Tornie players cried and whinged so much GW caved in and gave me hem what they wanted.
And those rules should be free to all players. That way, they can spend their money on models and don't have to worry so much about when those rules change.
Agreed. They're trying to satisfy both casual/beginners and competitive players, and do neither in the end. Not surprising since they have opposing expectations.
Even if its not tournament play... sadly some poeple tend to still play competitively. That really depend with who you play i suppose.
Very important message. I play Legion and most forums out there still only focus on tournaments. Great to remember you can play whatever you like and not worry about finding a "killer list". Appreciate the video, as always!
No, but you do have to paint competitively!
Mmmmh, what's with the 0 outro? My bet is the new game is done and release imminent.
No one else pays for my miniatures
I play however I want
Wait, people wargame competitively???!?!
I have wargamed for 20 years, and I have never once played in a competitive setting, nor do I have any interest in doing so. I very much view it as my replacement for video gaming, which hasn't held any appeal to me in the last decade.
I literally just gave up video games to get into Age of Sigmar and I'm having more enjoyment and sense of fulfilment by finishing a painted model than I ever did playing video games anytime in the last 10 years.
@@frankm6546 Welcome to the wargaming community! It's always great to see/hear about newcomers to the table!
Competitive play is imo the worse thing to happen to gaming.
So.... what's with the 0 at the end, Uncle Atom?
I wish this mindset was more widespread in TCG games.
Oooh. The flashing 0... I feel a new sci-fi game imminent...
Message received
FIX CAPITALISM FOR US, UNCLE ATOM.
im back into the hobby after a 15 yr lay off as of Jan 2022, I play with a FLGS group and we have fun, play cool minis we are all about the fluff BUT we do try to play to the current updated rules again in the pursuit of doing cool things. Heck i bought a my First Imperial Knight so I could learn magnatizing and then Freeblade with my Sisters of Battle, or Black Templar Space Marines on top of possible Lore Fluff with my Horus Heresy Imp Fists. (notice in 6 months i have 4 armies..... ugghhhh )
UNCLE ATOM, what's with the flashing zero at the end of this video?
Morse code SOS.....
I always end up quitting GW games because keeping up with the updates is fricking impossible if you're not a dedicated monogamer... which I'm not.
Then a few years later I buy the new starter box and the cycle starts again...
Seems like just editing the points does not help with balance in 40k. I observed that an overpowered army is so because it has ridiculous amount of stacking rules that allow huge damage outputs, invincible save options and endless amounts of re-rolling. I stopped playing at our local shop because too many overpowered armies so I started setting up my own games at home with heavily modified rules: No one model can have more than 4 attacks per turn. No one model can do more than 2 damage per weapon (an exception to this would be a D3 or a D6 damage weapon) the max AP allowed for any model is -2, only 1 re-roll allowed per unit for any phase, and we eliminated all Feel No Pains. Just doing those rules across all factions have made for some fantastic games that come down to the wire and make players have to really strategize more on the objectives. I gravitated toward Sigmar because it seems to be a little more balanced. I sure love the Path to Glory format. Great video! Keep up the good work! Ben
I'd also like to highlight something you almost touched on adjacently... you dont have to be good to play in competitive situations. I play a lot of video games (ok, a lot of one video game) and I'm not terribly talented at it. But I sign up for competitive events all the time because the atmosphere is fun and the people are usually pretty cool to talk to. Same thing when I played sports. I was always average but going to tournaments was a blast because the atmosphere was always exciting. I never won. And nobody ever cared if you won or lost the day after the event. They just cared that people were there having fun and being excited together.
You dont have to play competitively. But you also dont have to be good to enter competitions as long as you're having fun.
Competitive play can chew on my ass. I took stats to do academic research, not try and eek out an extra wounding hit or two with my toy soldiers. I build and allegedly play my army because I want to. I like the models and I like the lore I've built to support the model choices. I don't spend thousands of dollars buying the army that's the most broken right now, only to throw those models out in a few models and go for the next winning army. When I started playing 40k, we didn't have tryhards. I'm sure they existed, but I never heard about them because people were still playing 40k as a game, not as their term paper.
I don't. It's a toxic environment. Only local hobby store, easy and fun games. We are playing toy soldiers.
As a roleplayer the default assumption is collaborative play, and this video reminds me that some player have an inherent competitive trait, which often manifest as optimizing a character/powergaming.
I'm in a gaming group and most of us are RPrs and we always played that the rule of cool trumped all but we brought in one player's brother in law. He is a highly competitive player he gets very frustrated with any rule fudging or if the GM pulls out surprises for narrative purposes. He is starting to mellow out after nearly a decade. 😊
I still wish there were cooperative strategy games for all those excellent minis.
@@ThreeFortyThree RPG game masters used to be called referees or judges. With that mindset, and the Savage Worlds rules comes to mind, that is possible. The problem to solve is the impartial AI to run the opponents and a human referee can do that.
Yes you don’t have to play competitively but the fact of the matter is, it entirely depends on your local meta. Whether you play with a small group of friends, strangers at the local hobby club or your a tournament regular, you will have a local meta. This meta realy does define what you’re army will be able to get away with, if your small group of friends are very competitive with competitive armies, you’re not going to have fun playing an army that hasn’t been optimised, and I won’t listen to a single person who says they’re happy to lose every single game they play, because they’re lying, it eats away at you until you eventually cave in and begrudgingly optimise your army. If your local meta isn’t competitive, people use the models they like or are able to buy rather than having 3 of every efficient unit in the codex, you can do the same because really, you won’t end up losing every time, everyone is on a level playing field. The thing is, if you play a game that has constantly changing rules, the power dynamic within a local meta can shift immeasurably.
Competitive play just ruined the Warhammer 40k hobby in my opinion.
I have known people who switch out their basecoated only armies for the newest meta ones. The models I find become numbers and simple representation of stats, as opposed to warriors and characters with stories. Don't get me wrong I'll always try to build a list and have some wombo combos but I almost always play thematically and switch in things that I know suck as and when just to see them on the tabletop.
So.... good vid... but anyone else notice the morse code flashing zero at the end? That seems a bit concerning...
Gets my like from the title alone.
I love this mode of play. Yet I have a friend who just can not play a fun game it has to be knives-out ever time.
It's like any other game - chess, softball, Guitar Hero, whatever - play it at whatever level you enjoy, and don't worry about how serious (or unserious) others are.
I hate competing in this hobby. It’s so toxic. And a book every month is stupid.
Not knowing what tournaments were like, I brought Demonettes to my first one… needless to say, I’m now I’m captain casual now
weird because slaanesh is arguably the most powerful daemon army
Depends when he took the army? as in which year lol
*sticks my head in a sec* wait you guys were playing competitively?
No, fix capitalism. You can do eeet. Please, please fit it! ;)
My biggest issue with wargaming is the planning and getting the rules right as well as buying more than needed cause you think "X" is good for your army, but you've not played it enough to know.
Glad to hear this said, wargames should be nerdy fun and not a grind to keep up with the latest shiny thing.
Pretty much the reason why I don’t play anymore because everyone in the community here is a meta gamer
Okay but where can I get that sick Reign In Hell shirt?
Soon-ish. Thanks for watching!
Biggest success story to this might be MiniWarGaming. Built on covering GW games (specific to 40K for awhile) and other game systems in the future but in sport of friendship and fun. 95ish% of the lists were always made for fun, fluff or just to try something out and they are some of the OGs of Battle Reports. All my local players even if they do hit the tournament circuit are always up for fun games, and are good to get coaching from.
That's good you have Tornie players who can detach from competitive play to casual having a mad laugh play. Sadly many cannot detach themselves from that and they are the problem. Im not sure if it's as bad as it used to be - out of touch with that world, esp with new players coming in as the gatekeepers fade away or move on lol
Wait! You can't fix capitalism?!
Oh.
Usually it's my kids that are at the table with me. Smoking them, competitively, would soon see me playing alone. Way more fun just to keep it fun.
Yeah and the fact you are an adult and they are children 🤣😂.
Jeez what a comment.
Very good discussion video. Keep up the good work.
Love the teaser.
All Hail the You Tube Algorithm Gods
I would love to know who did the artwork for Reign in Hell!
ok what the hell was that morse code at the end?????
I've watched most of your videos and a concept I'm trying to explore is making two armies of combat patrol size and trying to balance the two armies as an introduction game so a second person who has never played before could play with me.
So far I've boiled it down to, no psychers, no flying, no cp, only core rule book. Seems to work with 3 troops choices, an HQ and a troops transport.
I've been into Tabletop Wargames for the last 7 years and I haven't ever played in a tournament, and I have no interest in them. I enjoy playing with my friends and having fun. I enjoy collecting different models and coming up with paint schemes. I enjoy reading the lore and coming up with my own storylines linking the games I play with my army together.
To me that's the fun of the hobby what your doing. There is a unit with not so good stats but they look soooo cool and the fluff is just perfect - must get some lol. It's about having fun. When I was in my early teens Stormvermin were seen as a no no by many competitive players and they used to grumble about them at the local gaming store....... But to me they looked cool and were stronger than Clanrats and I had fun fielding them who cares what they think lol.... They are still my fav unit lol.
The "0"!!! What does it mean?!? :o :o :o
Adam, thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!
S0S? Is s0me0ne in tr0uble?
Yeah, what was that?
@@janusvanmassenhove1083 If I had to guess, I would say it was a teaser of some kind for Adam and Vince's upcoming scifi game