Bare Metal Re-Spray On A Classic Mini - Multimix Epoxy Primer Application PT1
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Hi Guys, in this video we will be taking a look at spraying epoxy sealer / primer on this classic mini bare metal repaint
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I’ve been a painter for thirty years,one of the best pieces of advice I ever got was to put old brake shoes in front,and behind tires.Air hose never gets caught,slides around the car flawlessly.You do a Awsome job sir.
Great tip man and thanks
Today I finally did my first ever spraypaint. Been studying this ”mini-series”. Put the epoxy down on bare metal. Went well I think. Loooot of work. Used a cheap Bürisch gun. Have the car in a partytent. Worked awesome. Now it’s just the rest left😄 Using Mipa all the way btw. Me ranting. Just wanted to say a big thank you for your vids. Live in Sweden. Good for you. Otherwise I would be hanging around your shop every day😄
MY favorite epoxy for high build and blocking is PCL Prime n seal. great adhesion and sealing, plus it is a surfacer so small stuff will block out easy. Powder sand apply filler over it as needed. Great for guide coat and recoating with any urethane high build primer. Otherwise I like to wet bed surfacer over the epoxy primer for high build. Chameleon epoxy is great for adhesion and seal coat then they have a high build urethane to wet bed right over that without sanding. Super high adhesion and build. and also good for good quality filler over that.
Brilliant can’t wait for the next video putting the primer on cheers buddy. Well done
Thanks Larry new one coming soon on this mate
Another great informative video Tony👌 hope you and yours have a great Christmas and an equally great New Year, all the best bud👍
Thanks man and same for you buddy let’s hope for a good 2022
Well I know what epoxy to grab next. Been impressed with there products so far I'm sure they'll have got it right with this one. Thanks for the vid pal
Your welcome mate and I can vouch they have buddy it’s nice stuff at a great price
Cracking episode dude and just at the right time as I will be bare metaling the Mk1 in Jan ❤️ on to watch part 2 now 👊
Haha I did think that when I saw your video on it the other day yano lol
Nice job Tony , looking forward to seeing the other videos on this mini , great stuff !
Thanks buddy and there will be a few more to come mate that’s for sure
@@TonysRefinishingTV love watching your work !
Thanks buddy 😃
Awesome video as usual 👌 👌 And thank you so so much for all the info and advice. Great workmanship and exceptional knowledge 👍👍👍👏👏👏
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Thanks buddy appreciate that
Great job. Enjoyed watching. I would like to know how you went about solving the roof problem. My beetle is the same if not worse. Thanks.
Great Job and well explained as usual, thanks Tony. I've just ordered some of the multi mix 2k etch clear as I'm hoping to sort out a diamond cut wheel in the new year, merry xmas to you and your family
Thanks buddy and nice mate let me know how you get on on with it fella and the same to you bud I’ve got one more video before Xmas so il be wishing you all a happy xmas in that
Another great vid. Thank you
Your welcome thanks for joining us
Very helpful thanks Tony.
Your welcome Doug thanks for watching mate
Hi Tony, many thanks for another excellent video. I am about to start the same process to my Mini. I haven't stripped it to bare metal as I have fitted numerous new panels. I am only an amateur and found this video invaluable and now have more confidence to carry on with the project. I am already looking forward to the next instalment. Regards Peter.
Thanks Peter and your welcome bud appreciate you arching and il try and get some good info for you in following vids too
Oooh such a great informative video I'm really goon love restoring my mini
Lol thank buddy next stage goes live on it tomorow
@@TonysRefinishingTV sweet mate look forward to seeing that
Nice content . Love start to finish reworks 👍👍
Thanks man and great you could make the chat tonight mate too
@@TonysRefinishingTV day off bro sat at home with a few tinnies wife's watching soaps I'm on u tube in the kitchen 🍺🍺🍺
Lol fair play mate enjoy your day off man
@@TonysRefinishingTV it's getting better 🍺🍺🍺
Haha have one for me man
Great vid as usual, i went through a period some years ago customising minis. I bought 13 from an advertising company , managed to restore 8 the rest were scap and parts . They were a nightmare too work on but the end results paid off selling for around 5 to 6k at the time. Good luck with your project.
Thanks Jimmy and yeah there not the easiest to work on small but fiddly
@@TonysRefinishingTV F in , nightmare if your anal like me . I must try and get out off my OCD . Just had an Aston Martin DB7 in for very fiddley work ie under the rear arches and the top off the drivers door . Had to get my airbrushes out and quite enjoyed it .
Lol sounds a fun job that mate
gday mate.. just came across your videos and found the very informative. question if I may. how much epoxy primer did you use. ?
I am.just spraying the outside
Great video tony
Thanks man
Do you only have three days before the epoxy is too hardened to sand? Also do you do the body work on top of the epoxy?
How long do I need wait until I can go over with the multi prime ??
Totally agree Tony epoxy primer has gone way up in price. I'm a DIY garage painter here in Canada so I'm not buying supplies every week but it has to have doubled in price in the last year.
Wow awesome to know your watching from so far away man and yes materials have gone silly this last year or so and increase again for us here at xmas too
Good job mate! A question:
I'm about to do a full respray of a Nissan Patrol with a Chamaeleon's bed liner(same thing as raptor). I'm not doing a bare metal, just partial one where the rust repair took place. Can i put some rust converter before, where needed for surface rust? Would you recommend a full epoxy respray, even over old paint( which would be lightly sanded beforehand)? Is that a good practice? So a procedure would be this: bare metal or sanded paint + rust converter where needed > epoxy primer(just bare metal or full spray?) > filler work > 2k base primer/filler > bedliner(hvlp gun, i'll try to get a fine texture with a couple of thinner layers than with a undercoating gun that it is usually sprayed with).
How does that look to you? Any tips? Thanks!
Hey mate what pressure are you running with epoxy ? You have literally no over spray… I’ve bout a ani F160 with a 1.9 tip…I’m doing an exact mini as this one cheers
Great videos!
My son bought a post WWII mini in England and rebuilt it. They don’t paint the body on the chassis it’s too easy to take it off. You pull the interior out, engine and transmission, and all four wheels. Then they lay down cardboard, roll it on on side and take the chassis off. Then they roll the body back over set it on a trailer and haul it to the body shop. While it’s being painted they clean and paint anything that needs it, like rebuilding the engine if necessary. When the body comes back they assemble the car in the reverse order. It makes for a perfect car and is really very simple.
Very nice mate
I injoyed this video Tony thank you my ? Is do you have to have a good spray gun to spray hb primer or a cheap gun as I always use a very cheap gun thank you for the video Tony
You can use a cheap one mate aslong as it’s got the proper nozzle size mate , we use expensive guns so to speak because they last and perform cheap ones only last so long but you can get a decent few jobs out of them
Difference between epoxy and etch primer? I thought you always have to etch prime bare metal first
Big one ☝️ Tony factory foundation you could tell that job is a number one lol 😂 I’m waiting on the next stage to see you put some serious base on that shit haha 🤣 I really enjoyed that video much love en
Lol thanks buddy and paint will be coming soon my man
Hi Tony , great video , just to ask .. I havnt a booth , how many coats you put on , when dry and you block .... will it be 80, then 180? If you do break thru will you spot prime using the 4:1 thick mix or wet on wet if so what’s the ratio thank you
No il do p180 mate for it to highlight the areas that need work fill those then spray with high build if I break through yes I’ll wet on wet spot prime those areas
Hi Tony really enjoy the video I forgot to mention before. I wanted to ask what rust converter do you use? I am currently doing a Vespa as a project and was going to ask what rust converter to use also I am using Novol sealer is this any good from your experience? Kind Regards Dan
I’ve not used that Mobil stuff mate I’m afraid and pretty much any decent price rust converter couldn’t tell you the brand I have no idea lol
That's a great price for epoxy, it's gone crazy in price for some reason in the last 2 years ! Dont use it that regular but Last one I bought was a litre kit of lesonal, great epoxy but it would want to be at 110eur per litre !!
Yeah we’re on there base system and it’s gone mental price wise mate but the multimix stuff is very good for the cost
Hi I have a couple of questions, so is this instead of using etch primer? Also can you fill over this epoxy coating? Very well explained video I enjoyed seeing the epoxy go on, Good video 🙂👍
Yes and yes is the simple answer mate , part two on this shows the blocking and Jody filler stage that will answer a lot of questions
Thanks for sharing. Can I use epoxy primer just inside my garage? Strip to metal car project?
Hi yes you could obviously you’d need to adhere to the air dry times on the tds sheet but there wouldn’t be w problem you’d just need to be carefull of the fumes ect
Brilliant, loved it, thanks.
How do you feel about using cans of 1k epoxy spray for breakthrough areas?
Thanks , I’m not sure as it’s not something I’ve tried you possibly could on the rub throughs before primer but I’d say it’s best to do a little test first to make sure there’s no issues with adhesion or reaction ect
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks. I'm just doing my first full car and I've done it on a few small areas and see no problems so far. It was recommended to me but I've not come across it elsewhere and am curious to know if it's a new thing or usual practice. It certainly is less hassle than mixing up a new batch of primer.
Yeah we often use rattle can primer on rub throughs for convenience but il always check a product first to make sure it’s compatible I shouldn’t think you’d have an issue tbh
Hi, Tony! Good job on the vids! I like them a lot
One quick quesh..
are you still using the Roberlo Kronox cc?
The 610 yes mate I still use it on jobs mate in the shop I try to use a variety on the channel though
Thanks for sharing. Can i ask what paint remover you use.
Just a generic off brand stripper off eBay mate tbh usually but make sure it’s a proper solvent one not this new waterbase crap
Hi Tony, Have you any advice for using stripper on an entire mini shell? I have a rolling shell, 1275 Clubman, (LS-Australian) which, body wise is in very very good nick. Previous owner has stated prep, I have primed sections as well as some filler/repair sections which has been primed over. The floor section is pristine, with zero rust (no filth gritter trucks here in winter! lol).
I purchased the car as a long term project and am very keen to do most of the body work myself, at least as close to final prep as possible. Ive never seen a car pulled back to bare metal like you did with this one and was very interested in the process. Im currently building a rottisserie Jig to fully access the old floor seal (stone chip). I have a decent size shed so can do most work indoors but was looking for your thoughts on the paint stripping process, and if its suited for a noob DIY or not. Ive been quoted a price for 'paint removal and epoxy prep via a sand blast type process but using a softer abrasive (cant remember what he was going to use). The price seemed
Wayne
The price seemed ? It’s easy enough to do mate just time consuming and a dirty job to do really but can be done by pretty much anyone
Great work as usual.
So would you recommend using this on even painted panels and bumpers.
What I mean is if changing the colour of already painted wings and bumpers after keying and cleaning just to seal the works and then use normal primer
You could if you wanted to but if the paint underneath is good paint then just a standard primer or wet on wet process would do it
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks Tony , is there a good multimix primer that is home friendly like the clear?
Not yet mate but there romours they may be bringing one out soon
@@TonysRefinishingTV ahhh I really like the multimix stuff is there any other you would recommend that I can use at home with a infrared lamp?
The Mipa stuffs good mate , when the multimix one comes out mate il defintelt be grabbing some for a review I really like there stuff so keep your eyes peeled
Hey tony can you recommend a good epoxy primer and 2k primer for not getting shrink back. Also have you got any tips for not getting shrink back
ive had no issues with the multimix one mate
Hi Tony, not having an oven, how long would you think it would it take the epoxy to flash safe before applying high build
Cheers bud
I couldnt say mate you would be best asking jordan mate at multimix direct on that one fella
In my opinion this is only way to proceed on an old car, all old paint off and start fresh. At least you know what's underneath and no problems with new paint shrinking back into old around repairs etc. That roof will need a fair bit of work, huge hailstones or maybe someone been dancing in stilettos on roof 😀 Look forward to seeing finished job 👍👍
Lol thanks mate and yeah it’s the best way. It not always doable unfortunately but this has to come off there was no choice
Excellent video ( as always mate ) what's that epoxy like to block down?
Hope your having a fantastic weekend
Jason.
Thanks Jason you too mate and nice mate sands really well buddy
May I ask why you don't have your fan wider? Is there a reason for that?
Yep lol but I’ve already seen your other comment where I mentioned it lol
Why did you not ding the dents out on the boot lid as much less to wipe in later.
I was using gipfast 60 in the 80's
The parts had already been sat in bare metal for a while and didn’t want them flash rations so we sealed them later I metal pulled the dents did the filler work and then in the next video epoxy again and prime the shell the longer the shell sits in bare metal at this time of year the worse it’ll get
@@TonysRefinishingTV no problem, jga54 with a 43 nozzle was the gun of the day back then. Saw a Etype pull in a mot centre so bowled in as I know them. I said to the owner of the garage...I put a passenger door skin on one like that 25 years ago..A voice from behind me said YES you did and it is still good. and it was lol in BR Green. Ricky still had the car
I wanna spray my mini at home but what would you suggest is the best paint , primer n so on to use for a diy project 👍🏻
Is it a straight colour tour going for or a metallic ?
Been thinking of either tartan red or a more candy style red pal
The more standard tartan colour red would be a lot easier and then if you went that route you’d be looking at 2k gloss candy definitely wouldn’t recommend unless your good at painting and have a decent space and setup to do it in
@@TonysRefinishingTV that was my thought i just get confused with all the different types of paints , with painting in a garage what paint type would be best for just air drying
2k will air dry fine buddy just takes a little extra time , by baking it we’re just accelerating the process that’s all
What do you use to strip paint mate
Try and find the starchem paint stripper mate it’s expensive but brilliant
Luv ya vids bruz🤙🤙…very easy for me to watch…I just get confused with all the different primers etc and what’s first sometimes on one car the next car is different…
From OZ ,cough “the new China”
That’s one of the issues although some jobs look the same mate they mostly need a different approach unless it’s say daily smash repair work glad you enjoyed the video
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So epoxy is to seal??? As it’s not as porous as etch primer or highbuild??
What grit do u finish off before topcoat??
Yes epoxy for me is the best to seal off from metal with old paint and the repair side on a job like this , then high build to finish . I will final block with 240 then p400-500
Enjoyed the premier and live chat last night Tony, watched it through again and the epoxy did look very thick as it was laying down so should give good protection as well and stop it flash rusting, that Mini looks like it's been on it's roof with all those wobbles in there then someone has tried to pull it back 😂 looks like you were using the Slim Kombat there mate, not a bad little gun for the price.
I have asked in Jordan's FB group if he will be making a high build primer but didn't get an answer and tbh I've asked a few questions in that group but I never got any replies, I recon he is very busy plus I'm just a diy/hobby painter he's probably more interested in the big companies but some feedback would have been nice, don't get me wrong though I still use his products and promote them as much as I can. 👍
They have some things happening in the new year mate so keep your eyes peeled buddy and I know he’s mad busy on stuff atm takes me a while to get through to him mate he’s just got so much on and yeah it’s good stuff it’ll seal this mini up lovely
Ok thanks Tony I had a feeling he was busy, seems to be the trend these days that you all have to graft twice as hard to bring in the same income, it's such a same that a great trade like this is so difficult to make a living out of it 🤷♂️😒
It’s just been a very hard 2 years man with the virus ect mate for a lot of us in business so now we’re gotta work twice as hard to get where we wanted to be that’s all man well all get there
Yeah it's a lot of work for you guys and I really do feel for you, this soddin virus has go a lot to answer for 😨👍
It sure does man but we’ll get through buddy
Oof I haven't done a bare metal job in a long time. Looking good though. Wondering what colour it'll be?
Blue and white mate from memory lol have to check but thinks it’s going. Ask as it was just a lot tidier lol 😂
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Nice vid 👌🏻, What stripper do you use/ would you recommend from your experience, seem to be a lot out there with very different strength all advertising industrial strength, cheers.
One from my local supplier or just one on eBay mate I always go for the proper solvent based ones not waterbased there hard to get a good one these days wrapping it in poly roll after application and leaving it abit helps a lot mate
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks mate for the reply, merry Christmas 😉
No problem at all mate merry Xmas to you too fella
Hiya mate please can you tell me size of wheels and tyres on that mini ?…….fantastic job on paint by the way 👌👌
thanks man and there 175/50/13
@@TonysRefinishingTV legend…..thanks dude 👍
No problem man
In the older days we used an acid based primer does it not need it with the new primers only asking mate as you know its a few years since I did it so I'm not into new paints and primers its a good job as always plus telling people to buy British and local is good we don't always know that Britain produce good products take care mate
The new epoxy based primers mate are much better to use than the old style etch these adhere direct to metal seal it properly unlike etch and aren’t porous like the high builds so the metals sealed and protected from the start
Just wondered thats all I had an idea they were better as with most things they improve as time goes on for the better I might add hows your health now mate mines getting worse lungs are shot now its the old isosionates paints that have done the damage over the years mate you take care health before work buddy
Not to bad atm mate been taking time to improve my health a lot hope you don’t get to bad buddy
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Never mind you answered it half way through haha
Lol no worries man always try to add everything I can into the video
Hi Tony do you repaint motorcycle as well, David
yes mate anything
Should have had it blasted I can guarantee the man hours and materials you used to get it back to mettle would have worked out 10 fold cheaper and 10x faster to blast it 👌
It would yes mate but there wasn’t the option to fully strip the car and have it blasted unfortunately
@@TonysRefinishingTV who says you need to fully strip it? You can always do a part blast. It's like saying you have to sand the full car to blow a bumper in 😏
roof top needs filler ,i can see waves on the roof apart of this verry good job thumbs up
Not sure if you watched the video till the end but I did explain that
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