At 14 every girl got their moko kauae as a right of passage. With it you carry your whakapapa, your taonga. This is how we korero with others. Its much more than a mark of pride. No matter how little or how much maori you are, or if you dont even know te reo blood is blood and you have the right to wear it
this pakeha is the perfect example of the arrogance, condescending, patronising behaviour which is the result of the colonising plague that most European countries did along the centuries. Luckily not everyone is like that, but that's right we are few.
christelle berthon When you talk about colonization do you mean like the moors, the mongols, the ottoman turks, the seljuk turks, the tartars, the golden horde, the huns, the islamic caliphates, the barbary corsairs, the persians, etc.? Here's a fun fact for you: the European age of exploration and colonization lasted about 400 years. Non Europeans have been invading Europe for 2000 years. Despite that we haven't turned into a race of eternal victims like you people.
this guy is the epitome of people who think they know more about your culture than you do. even though i'm not maori i know that the moko is sacred and earned and not just some stupid tat
It’s tradition, culture and pride. I’m against kids getting tattoos just because they tend to get in my opinion stupid tattoos but if we are talking about culture I’m 100% all for it.
How dare he say he knows more about their culture than they do??? Really?!? It is their right. If Jewish children can ascend to adulthood and fully embrace their religion and heritage at the age of thirteen why can't this child of fourteen do the same. Oh that's right it doesn't meet his European standards of beauty. Well chum your not in Europe so get over it.
The505Guys I’m sorry for my grammatical error; though if that is the only thing you can take away from this video and/or my comment, you seem to be a bit of a troll...
sharistjohn I think he's justified in saying he knows more about Maori culture than some Maori. For instance, when do you ever hear Maori talk about their cannibalism, human sacrifice or ritual torture? They never acknowledge it so it seems unlikely that any Maori are really taught about it. Also, New Zealand is Europe. It has a European majority that built a modern, stable, prosperous European nation thanks to their European work ethic, forward thinking, and organizational ability. To downplay that NZ is a first world nation because of Europeans is to show your racism against Europeans.
lem farba yet you gonna look away from how we got screwed over by the treaty of waitangi, stole our land, and help during the World War just to get mistreated for our differences, we then refuse to fight just to be shot down. Forced to speak English and leave our roots and culture, to then rebuild what we have lost for you to say “ europeans no more about my culture” then me and my people. Start talking your shit when you actually learn about our language and beliefs not just a fucking TH-cam video depicting all the “ scary” stuff our ancestors did. Like Aztecs, Egyptians and even Europeans didn’t do fucked up shit like enslave, steal and murder.
@@lemfarba4827 Europeans never speak of the atrocities they commited! What about the fact that in many townships Maori weren’t give medical care? If Maori wanted a size 9 shoe, they had no choice and had to take the size 12 same with all clothes! Maori weren’t even allowed in some townships and had to live in forests and build there own houses! And this was all post treaty. Were do you think the terms snot nose Maori kids came from? Hori? The stereotypes that Maori couldn’t afford proper clothes and wear clothes that don’t fit them. Yeah that’s right just like poverty you gave it to us.
0:29 Says it all. Powerful statement just from her posture! Never listen to people like that teacher, he knows nothing, and will never learn, therefore, how/who can he teach??
I say sir, get your nose out of where you do not belong. This is the business of the Maori, and of the Maori only. You have no right to intervene with culture.
lem farba Maori would have evolved like everyone else over time... They were already trading before colonialism came along... And they would have evolved like every other country has done... . But colonist didn't want to just trade they wanted to take everything including the land... Have a look at history and Australia and other countries where they tried to take over and build their kingdom? their greed is so obvious. Their school of thought was.. "What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine".. In saying that we can see that slowly over time they have come full circle and evolved and that school of thought is changing with the inter action between different cultures and people.... So who has really taught who about life and how it should evolve and progress in the future in harmony and respect?.. The Maori people taught them Respect, truth and also sincerity.
Well that Haole can feel whatever he wants, it's not his place to say what's goes on. It's not his child, not his culture or his land. So giving him a voice about another person's cultural practice is just more babble and steam. If find it funny how these are the same people who down indigenous cultures then turn around to appropriate them, and the people's lands.
I don't know how to say this .. And I hope I don't offend anyone .. but I wish to get a moko. I am NOT Maori but I am Hawaiian and live in Hawaii(like it matters) but I hope to travel to autearoa someday to get acceptance to have a moko... I've always loved Maori culture, even as much as I love my own culture. Maybe even more.. Again I hope I don't offend anyone by what I've said..
Colonisers mentality PISS ME OFFFFFF!!!! The fucking cheek!! Bout " I know more bout their culture"....my blood is boiling!!!! . May all indigenous people uphold their cultures find their roots... And revive their way of living .
I stumbled on this by accident, but I cannot believe the arrogance and ignorance of this man! I'm only an old Australian bag: I know nothing. However I do know (and hugely admire) the significance of the moko kauae. If I were Maori, I would certainly take one if I felt I were worthy. This young lady has humbly chosen to wear the reality of her culture and she should be PROUD. The stupid pakeha principal should do a bit of study before opening his mouth just wide enough to put his foot in it.
Her heritage, not his. In my Southeastern US tribal nation, she'd be able to sit on the womens' council. So yes, none of your business, Mr Pakeha. He can go back to Ireland or England.
@The505Guys if it were a Maori in britain he’d still have no right cause it’s not his business or culture and pride. He’s trying to tell us our culture is wrong and a disfigurement? Pffft
@The505Guys the English lost there culture a long time and now they have none so have many other western european countries and btw the land that is now England never belonged to them in the first place
I know I’m gonna piss a few people off for saying this so here it goes I remember a long time ago ta moko’s were only for high ranking chiefs, warriors and kuia that were earned over time. And there one more thing when were women aloud to have ta moko on there arms and legs correct if I’m wrong we’ll thought that was tapu!
Actually that's not true. Ta Moko was for everyone except a slave. If you were a fisherman, you had that tattooed on you, if you were musically gifted, that was tattooed on you...Your ta moko told your heritage, your rank, your occupation, and whatever else was deemed important. This belief that only high ranking chiefs had ta moko, was propaganda fed down thru European assumptions.
As for the arms - that's a modern thing. We never tattooed that part of the body until the 20th century - when ta moko was revived. The legs? Woman have had symbols tattooed down there since the very beginning - most of which symbolized their role/future role as a mother and child bearer.
Are children of any age old enough to "give consent" as to whether or not they want to be part of an organized religion that their parents or community follows?...
When I was that age I wanted a scorpion tattoo on my neck. If it were up to me I'd have a scorpion on my neck right now...I'm glad I don't. On a side note: facial moko is beautiful, this girl just hasn't done anything of any significance to earn it (I assume).
Face tattoos don't look good to me either. 14 is too young for a tattoo in my opinion because the person may change their mind, but it's not my face. The moko has traditional and cultural significance so I respect peoples decision to have them.
Use mind and reason first before honouring a stoneage culture that will disfigure ones face . Tama Iti is a fool and has done nothing to advance maori, instead taking them backwards with his own ignorance.
kevin matherest and yet, we seem to be doing just fine moving with the Western world, without completely losing our "stoneage" culture 😁 of all the staunch natives that have had it rough when it came to the Brtis.. Maori have done the best of them all. Nice try though, Kev
If he knew more about the culture he should know it's a mark of pride in the culture
true
Yes, but more so to know your language, to know your deeds and your position in the tribe ( Hapu )
At 14 every girl got their moko kauae as a right of passage. With it you carry your whakapapa, your taonga. This is how we korero with others. Its much more than a mark of pride. No matter how little or how much maori you are, or if you dont even know te reo blood is blood and you have the right to wear it
@@passedoutsober6322 and in africa there is another tradition for young girls.
@@thebigmonstaandy6644 whats Africa got to do with anything
The voice of the colonizer "I know more about them then they do"
this pakeha is the perfect example of the arrogance, condescending, patronising behaviour which is the result of the colonising plague that most European countries did along the centuries. Luckily not everyone is like that, but that's right we are few.
Use mind and reason first before honouring a stoneage culture that will disfigure ones face .
christelle berthon When you talk about colonization do you mean like the moors, the mongols, the ottoman turks, the seljuk turks, the tartars, the golden horde, the huns, the islamic caliphates, the barbary corsairs, the persians, etc.? Here's a fun fact for you: the European age of exploration and colonization lasted about 400 years. Non Europeans have been invading Europe for 2000 years. Despite that we haven't turned into a race of eternal victims like you people.
All of you in this comment thread, if you’re not Māori it’s not your fucking say. Period.
this guy is the epitome of people who think they know more about your culture than you do. even though i'm not maori i know that the moko is sacred and earned and not just some stupid tat
respect to your knowledge
But it looks like that. 😂
It’s tradition, culture and pride. I’m against kids getting tattoos just because they tend to get in my opinion stupid tattoos but if we are talking about culture I’m 100% all for it.
How can he know a little more about Maori culture than actual Maori do? He don't know jack. Well done Tuhoe she is beautiful
Gotta love that defiant-AND-WHAT! -PUKANA she so quickly popped the camera. That's it girl. Maori AND PROUD!
the caucasity
"Disfigured, assaulted" he has no right "I know more about their culture than some do" no right
How dare he say he knows more about their culture than they do??? Really?!? It is their right. If Jewish children can ascend to adulthood and fully embrace their religion and heritage at the age of thirteen why can't this child of fourteen do the same. Oh that's right it doesn't meet his European standards of beauty. Well chum your not in Europe so get over it.
The505Guys I’m sorry for my grammatical error; though if that is the only thing you can take away from this video and/or my comment, you seem to be a bit of a troll...
sharistjohn I think he's justified in saying he knows more about Maori culture than some Maori. For instance, when do you ever hear Maori talk about their cannibalism, human sacrifice or ritual torture? They never acknowledge it so it seems unlikely that any Maori are really taught about it. Also, New Zealand is Europe. It has a European majority that built a modern, stable, prosperous European nation thanks to their European work ethic, forward thinking, and organizational ability. To downplay that NZ is a first world nation because of Europeans is to show your racism against Europeans.
Spinning a dreidel is not permanent
lem farba yet you gonna look away from how we got screwed over by the treaty of waitangi, stole our land, and help during the World War just to get mistreated for our differences, we then refuse to fight just to be shot down. Forced to speak English and leave our roots and culture, to then rebuild what we have lost for you to say “ europeans no more about my culture” then me and my people. Start talking your shit when you actually learn about our language and beliefs not just a fucking TH-cam video depicting all the “ scary” stuff our ancestors did. Like Aztecs, Egyptians and even Europeans didn’t do fucked up shit like enslave, steal and murder.
@@lemfarba4827 Europeans never speak of the atrocities they commited! What about the fact that in many townships Maori weren’t give medical care? If Maori wanted a size 9 shoe, they had no choice and had to take the size 12 same with all clothes! Maori weren’t even allowed in some townships and had to live in forests and build there own houses! And this was all post treaty. Were do you think the terms snot nose Maori kids came from? Hori? The stereotypes that Maori couldn’t afford proper clothes and wear clothes that don’t fit them. Yeah that’s right just like poverty you gave it to us.
0:29 Says it all. Powerful statement just from her posture!
Never listen to people like that teacher, he knows nothing, and will never learn, therefore, how/who can he teach??
That old man doesn’t even know he’s own culture. That mean he has no future
I say sir, get your nose out of where you do not belong. This is the business of the Maori, and of the Maori only. You have no right to intervene with culture.
If we didn't intervene in their culture they'd still be in the stone age practicing cannibalism, human sacrifice and ritual torture.
lem farba Maori would have evolved like everyone else over time... They were already trading before colonialism came along... And they would have evolved like every other country has done... . But colonist didn't want to just trade they wanted to take everything including the land... Have a look at history and Australia and other countries where they tried to take over and build their kingdom? their greed is so obvious. Their school of thought was.. "What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine"..
In saying that we can see that slowly over time they have come full circle and evolved and that school of thought is changing with the inter action between different cultures and people....
So who has really taught who about life and how it should evolve and progress in the future in harmony and respect?..
The Maori people taught them Respect, truth and also sincerity.
It's beautiful! Very interesting culture! Greetings from Turkey!
e kii, e kii!! Tangia te moko i say!! if u are Maori u can wear Moko!
I agree, but what with non maori wearing the same kind of moko adapting a foreign culture symbol?
Maumahara au i te wā i whakaatu ai tēnei pakipūmeka i runga i te tīwī. Tamariki tonu ana au i taua wā. Kātahi te mīharoharo !
Well that Haole can feel whatever he wants, it's not his place to say what's goes on. It's not his child, not his culture or his land. So giving him a voice about another person's cultural practice is just more babble and steam. If find it funny how these are the same people who down indigenous cultures then turn around to appropriate them, and the people's lands.
Hey Stopthat SO true🙏🏽
@Jeri Brown yes so true
I don't know how to say this .. And I hope I don't offend anyone .. but I wish to get a moko. I am NOT Maori but I am Hawaiian and live in Hawaii(like it matters) but I hope to travel to autearoa someday to get acceptance to have a moko... I've always loved Maori culture, even as much as I love my own culture. Maybe even more.. Again I hope I don't offend anyone by what I've said..
+Makamae A. What culture do you honor if you are not of Maori? Just curious do to your comment.
Colonisers mentality PISS ME OFFFFFF!!!! The fucking cheek!! Bout " I know more bout their culture"....my blood is boiling!!!!
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May all indigenous people uphold their cultures find their roots... And revive their way of living
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I laughed so hard when I saw Tame, knew that cheeky bugger would show up
I stumbled on this by accident, but I cannot believe the arrogance and ignorance of this man! I'm only an old Australian bag: I know nothing. However I do know (and hugely admire) the significance of the moko kauae. If I were Maori, I would certainly take one if I felt I were worthy. This young lady has humbly chosen to wear the reality of her culture and she should be PROUD. The stupid pakeha principal should do a bit of study before opening his mouth just wide enough to put his foot in it.
a white man commenting on a maori girls body/ appearance, because that’s okay. he called it disfigured. educate yourself!!!!!
dude, if they don't like it they should stay the hell away !
not amused Who's "they"?
lem farba Obviously, anyone who supports the first speaker of the clip 🤔
lem farba lmao, yet you are the fuckwit who asked. Go be smart somewhere else
lem farba well then, educate me 😊 tell me, oh wise one, where were you going with your question?
lem farba ohhhh.. it was a poor and dry attempt at mocking the guys name..
Her heritage, not his. In my Southeastern US tribal nation, she'd be able to sit on the womens' council. So yes, none of your business, Mr Pakeha. He can go back to Ireland or England.
@The505Guys if it were a Maori in britain he’d still have no right cause it’s not his business or culture and pride. He’s trying to tell us our culture is wrong and a disfigurement? Pffft
@The505Guys the English lost there culture a long time and now they have none so have many other western european countries and btw the land that is now England never belonged to them in the first place
He said operation to make it sound bad
Proud of my culture, He manawa whakapehapeha ahau.
I know I’m gonna piss a few people off for saying this so here it goes I remember a long time ago ta moko’s were only for high ranking chiefs, warriors and kuia that were earned over time. And there one more thing when were women aloud to have ta moko on there arms and legs correct if I’m wrong we’ll thought that was tapu!
Actually that's not true. Ta Moko was for everyone except a slave. If you were a fisherman, you had that tattooed on you, if you were musically gifted, that was tattooed on you...Your ta moko told your heritage, your rank, your occupation, and whatever else was deemed important. This belief that only high ranking chiefs had ta moko, was propaganda fed down thru European assumptions.
As for the arms - that's a modern thing. We never tattooed that part of the body until the 20th century - when ta moko was revived. The legs? Woman have had symbols tattooed down there since the very beginning - most of which symbolized their role/future role as a mother and child bearer.
We are Tangatawhenua and not Maori...Kiaora
ha ha ha the winz barcode
Are children of any age old enough to "give consent" as to whether or not they want to be part of an organized religion that their parents or community follows?...
That white guy should leave other people cultures alone
ask the child 'perhaps' doh
ok, I listened,....... put in a post "ask..... doh" Went away. Came back to say....F_up TWIMC...
thats his problem not ours just not on a man even if he his gay
He needs to mind his business.
Does anybody know the last song they were singing?
Sandstorm by Darude.
When I was that age I wanted a scorpion tattoo on my neck. If it were up to me I'd have a scorpion on my neck right now...I'm glad I don't. On a side note: facial moko is beautiful, this girl just hasn't done anything of any significance to earn it (I assume).
her mom is awesome, but that mullet has got to go.
Personally I think it doesn’t look good, but then again it’s not my culture 🤷🏾♂️
Face tattoos don't look good to me either. 14 is too young for a tattoo in my opinion because the person may change their mind, but it's not my face. The moko has traditional and cultural significance so I respect peoples decision to have them.
rga
14 years old and looking ridiculous for the rest of her life.
It's part of maori culture. It's not ridiculous
Use mind and reason first before honouring a stoneage culture that will disfigure ones face . Tama Iti is a fool and has done nothing to advance maori, instead taking them backwards with his own ignorance.
kevin matherest and yet, we seem to be doing just fine moving with the Western world, without completely losing our "stoneage" culture 😁 of all the staunch natives that have had it rough when it came to the Brtis.. Maori have done the best of them all. Nice try though, Kev