I hate when people make dumb comments like this after a big game. The Pistons have nothing but quote on quote “talent” young dudes finding their way and niche. How the hell can a coach be holding him back? When Cade is out of the lineup he averages VERY similar numbers to well Cade…. The problem is they have to be able to do it together and the coach can’t stop egos. Best player on this team is Jalen Duren BTW 🤷♂️
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 Look at Ivey's minutes, there was no reason for him to be playing as little as he has, especially at the beginning of the year when they had all those injuries.
No, Monty should have been fired yesterday! No, no, the day before yesterday! No, to be honest Monty should NEVER HAVE BEEN HIRED. He openly dislikes playing young guys over vets - and Gores went over his GM's head to hire this guy who in no way fits this young college aged core. Kevin Ollie would have been a much better choice.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943that would be reasonable but look at usage rates. Iveys when Cade is on court is extremely low, and falls off a cliff in the second half. So far Ivey averages around 2-3 shots in the fourth quarter while the other starters are in, Cade and bojan average around 7 each. Ivey does not get the ball if Cade is on the court. So Ivey is most definitely being held back a lot. Even with cade in the last 10 games he’s averaging 19 pts but it would be higher without the benching and minute slashing in the first half of the season. Would be a decent take if Monty wasn’t known for being awful with developing players. Marcus, Ausar, and Ivey have all suffered because this coach refuses to let them hoop
@@kingjayburner Na, people said Tatum and Brown couldn't work and they do. This is just that awkward point in time when a team has two really talented players that need to time to figure out how they work together. Maybe the do or maybe they don't, but it takes time. Too early to to say it can't work. But it does seem Ivey needs to be the lead PG and Cade should be off ball more.
Man I knew in college, if he had the right people around him that he would be a force. He wanted to go to Detroit I believe because his mom played there but I would much rather see him go somewhere his potential would be maximized.
It’s almost like you guys don’t watch basketball since he’s been the main guy for like 20 games now 😭😭😭 One good game gets peoples attention that don’t watch and they start commenting like they no something 😅
He has not been given the opportunities; but his defense has been the issue(which has vastly improved) and also this was Killian's last shot. He was only on the team because Monty Williams(new coach) saw potential. Ironically enough Killian played pretty good this game. He needed to; to be ballsy enough to request a trade.
Glad Ivey was finally able to show SAC what they missed out on drafting Keegan at 4. Keegan Murray lit us up in Detroit earlier this season, so turnabout is fair play.
Monty only seems hold Ivey accountable, it's like he's got it out for him or something. Ivey is in year 2, he should be playing through his mistakes, especially being on a bad team.
@@beankobe8205 Cade is the only player that should consistently be getting more minutes than Ivey. Monty's job is to develop this team, you don't do that by sitting the best guys on your team and the ones that show the most potential for your future. Killian should regularly be playing behind Ivey & Sasser at the point, unless Cade is out, and even still he should be playing less minutes than both. Go watch Monty's postgame, Ivey had a career high and had the biggest impact on the game. Yet Monty only talked about him when asked directly and had more criticism than praise.
Tbh this is not “Cade Cunningham” team this is “Jaden Ivey” this guy is grit and has all star written over him… sucks he’s being held back by Monty Williams… watch film on him he energizes the floor pace.
Should trade Cade for a star stretch PF and give Ivey and Duran the reigns. This team plays much faster and fluid when he's not on the floor. Cade still a beast just doesn't fit as well with these two.
kind of true but also monty is a dimwit and spineless, hasn't even tried letting JI run point and Cade at sg, with how slow monty is to try new things we may not see that even attempted until closer to the end of regular season
This is that game you dont want give to a guy like that. When he has all the tools (god gifted as he will tell you ad nauseum, no disrespect) you give him determination and confidence? Lil homie playing like he grew up on Kwanzaa
If Monty is not careful, he will be shown the exit. Even with that BIG salary. You can't hold a young gun like Ivey back. Just too much talent in this kid.
Its alot of dumb comments under this video. I'm like wtf lol but this IS NOT one of them. I've been saying this!!! I called it yesterday when I heard cade wasn't playing, that they was gonna win 😂
too many ppl not good at offball attacking on this team. i think sasser has good potential w/o the ball but it's hard to coach a lineup like that in today's nba particularly a super young 1 that is taking its lumps defensively rn. we all know ivey had this in em, it's jus hard to get em necessary opportunities to jus run wild like this on the roster they got. 1way for a young player to always stay on the court tho is to lock in defensively
Iveys issue isn’t getting on the court, it’s getting to shoot, if Cade and bojan are healthy he gets half the shots, mostly because they don’t pass to him that often
Facts!!! After watching the Pistons all year, I'm starting to feel like cade is a bit overrated. & he duck smoke from all the top PG's. I bet he play tonight vs Portland lol
Pistons at some point is going to have to make a decision about Ivey and Cade. I am not totally sure they can play together. Ivey looks better without Cade.
Now it's trade Cade and fire Monty... we can't be this extreme... this team hasn't played full strength all season... and honestly the Kings didn't take them seriously. Though this is a impressive win... we can't get besides ourselves... Cade and Ivey are both great Monty's job depends on how he can get both of them to play together... which will be a tough task.
the kings are also a trash organization and not an example to look up to despite their recent development they are largely unproven all time and in recent time, just only made playoffs last year after missing it for 16 seasons@@rainbowbabyblog5995
No they don't. Monty just needs to attempt running JI at point and Cade at SG, but he is slow, spineless, and hates JI for whatever reason. He's held back his opportunities all season.
I hate ppl like you … cade make them batter so does ivey we need them both in the future to compete damn ppl Always want players beefing or picking sides
@@spencer8699yep! And none of them are forced lol. He just slowly crawls into bad spots and just hands the ball to the other team. It’s actually pathetic they still let him run the point so much as they do.
@@dantemassey600this is facts. I’ve said from the moment Cade was drafted that he was not a PG. his closest comparison is Booker. Cade can make passes but he can’t run a team. Jaden needs to be the long term PG. However, Jaden is also not ready for that right now either. Hopefully he will be next year.
This is why the Kings are really ass. They get blown out by 30 it seems once or twice a week. They can even lose games like this to teams that have no business beating them. Someone should check that stat actually. The Kings average margin of deficit in losses 😭
Father, please grant me the courage to speak the truth as this young disciple of yours does. In the Almighty Creator's name, Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you Jaden and thank you God for saving a wretch like me.
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Monty should be fired immediately!!!! Holding this guy back.
I hate when people make dumb comments like this after a big game.
The Pistons have nothing but quote on quote “talent” young dudes finding their way and niche. How the hell can a coach be holding him back?
When Cade is out of the lineup he averages VERY similar numbers to well Cade…. The problem is they have to be able to do it together and the coach can’t stop egos.
Best player on this team is Jalen Duren BTW 🤷♂️
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 Look at Ivey's minutes, there was no reason for him to be playing as little as he has, especially at the beginning of the year when they had all those injuries.
No, Monty should have been fired yesterday! No, no, the day before yesterday! No, to be honest Monty should NEVER HAVE BEEN HIRED. He openly dislikes playing young guys over vets - and Gores went over his GM's head to hire this guy who in no way fits this young college aged core. Kevin Ollie would have been a much better choice.
@@garyweglarzfired for what? Ain’t spurs losing pop should b fired? Bro shut yo racist ass up
@@jamesonedwardsii4943that would be reasonable but look at usage rates. Iveys when Cade is on court is extremely low, and falls off a cliff in the second half. So far Ivey averages around 2-3 shots in the fourth quarter while the other starters are in, Cade and bojan average around 7 each. Ivey does not get the ball if Cade is on the court. So Ivey is most definitely being held back a lot. Even with cade in the last 10 games he’s averaging 19 pts but it would be higher without the benching and minute slashing in the first half of the season. Would be a decent take if Monty wasn’t known for being awful with developing players. Marcus, Ausar, and Ivey have all suffered because this coach refuses to let them hoop
who knew giving Jaden Ivey the ball would lead to scoring
It's so obvious that I can actually recognize the sarcasm in a text with no punctuation at all lol
Not Monty Williams
HE LOOKED LIKE A SUPERSTAR TONIGHT!!!
he is a superstar
Ivey needs to be the PG
I hate that the Pistons got him. I feel like Ivey and Cade need their own teams
Cade needs to be SG or trade him for Jaren Jackson Jr, if possible
@@Travdustthen grizzles would have no big man stupid
@@kingjayburner Na, people said Tatum and Brown couldn't work and they do. This is just that awkward point in time when a team has two really talented players that need to time to figure out how they work together. Maybe the do or maybe they don't, but it takes time. Too early to to say it can't work. But it does seem Ivey needs to be the lead PG and Cade should be off ball more.
I agree cade needs to be SG@@Travdust
Oh wow its almost like jaden should have been getting more opportunitys all year... what do you know
10000 percent
Man I knew in college, if he had the right people around him that he would be a force. He wanted to go to Detroit I believe because his mom played there but I would much rather see him go somewhere his potential would be maximized.
It’s almost like you guys don’t watch basketball since he’s been the main guy for like 20 games now 😭😭😭
One good game gets peoples attention that don’t watch and they start commenting like they no something 😅
@jamesonedwardsii4943 Incorrect. He has NOT been the main guy for 20 games. That's the problem...he should have been.
He has not been given the opportunities; but his defense has been the issue(which has vastly improved) and also this was Killian's last shot. He was only on the team because Monty Williams(new coach) saw potential. Ironically enough Killian played pretty good this game. He needed to; to be ballsy enough to request a trade.
Took Monty almost a half a season to start Ivey over killian hayes......
Needed Hayes to have trade value he is older
More like 8-10 games
Fucking insane lol
Hayes with Monty's daughter. Figure out the rest.
Not good. If Monty is not careful, his tenure in Motown will be brief.
God bless that young man.
Glad Ivey was finally able to show SAC what they missed out on drafting Keegan at 4. Keegan Murray lit us up in Detroit earlier this season, so turnabout is fair play.
Facts
It's tough when you have a stubborn coach that's also prideful and any mistakes you make is the only thing they focus on.
Monty only seems hold Ivey accountable, it's like he's got it out for him or something. Ivey is in year 2, he should be playing through his mistakes, especially being on a bad team.
@@ethankinnunen4839bro the team got all young guys . He just trying to give everyone a chance . Stop the hate
@@beankobe8205 Cade is the only player that should consistently be getting more minutes than Ivey. Monty's job is to develop this team, you don't do that by sitting the best guys on your team and the ones that show the most potential for your future. Killian should regularly be playing behind Ivey & Sasser at the point, unless Cade is out, and even still he should be playing less minutes than both. Go watch Monty's postgame, Ivey had a career high and had the biggest impact on the game. Yet Monty only talked about him when asked directly and had more criticism than praise.
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it took 50 games, but Monty finally discovered that Ivey was on his team
Been waiting for him to breakout! Hoping this soars his confidence even more. Rooting for the kid
Right!
Ivey is just flat out good. And the rest of the team seems to respond very well when he plays.
Monty was Bugging playing Killan Hayes over Jaden Ivey WTF
Let's go!!! Finally getting the opportunity to shine
He’s getting stronger and more efficient with his shot
Ivey absolutely NEEDS to be the PG
Ivey what’s the right draft pick no question !!
NO QUESTION!
Our goat!
Tbh this is not “Cade Cunningham” team this is “Jaden Ivey” this guy is grit and has all star written over him… sucks he’s being held back by Monty Williams… watch film on him he energizes the floor pace.
Very impressive performance from Ivey. Good to see the young man back in the rotation.
Should trade Cade for a star stretch PF and give Ivey and Duran the reigns. This team plays much faster and fluid when he's not on the floor. Cade still a beast just doesn't fit as well with these two.
kind of true but also monty is a dimwit and spineless, hasn't even tried letting JI run point and Cade at sg, with how slow monty is to try new things we may not see that even attempted until closer to the end of regular season
Playing like a Young Superstar told everybody Ivey is a franchise type talent Guard way to play aggressive tonight
Most improved player rookie💯
This is that game you dont want give to a guy like that. When he has all the tools (god gifted as he will tell you ad nauseum, no disrespect) you give him determination and confidence? Lil homie playing like he grew up on Kwanzaa
Ivey should be 1A then Cade . The offense should be ran by him while cade is the best player works well for both
Agreed.
all thanks to God 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Surprised Monty didn't take him out when he started to get hot
If Monty is not careful, he will be shown the exit. Even with that BIG salary. You can't hold a young gun like Ivey back. Just too much talent in this kid.
Breakout season, glad hes not getting burried in the rotation and they might trade killian
He’s getting comfortable
Pistons are 4-6 without Cade…. Conversation needs to be had pistons fans
Its alot of dumb comments under this video. I'm like wtf lol but this IS NOT one of them. I've been saying this!!! I called it yesterday when I heard cade wasn't playing, that they was gonna win 😂
That boy is Westbrook-Esque, strong game, Lotta potential💪
My man ivy killing the game
Lookin good getting to the basket
too many ppl not good at offball attacking on this team. i think sasser has good potential w/o the ball but it's hard to coach a lineup like that in today's nba particularly a super young 1 that is taking its lumps defensively rn. we all know ivey had this in em, it's jus hard to get em necessary opportunities to jus run wild like this on the roster they got. 1way for a young player to always stay on the court tho is to lock in defensively
Bro they are college kids relax
Iveys issue isn’t getting on the court, it’s getting to shoot, if Cade and bojan are healthy he gets half the shots, mostly because they don’t pass to him that often
Resurgence of ivey
We finally have a 23
Ivey is dangerous
Cade holding them back.
Facts!!! After watching the Pistons all year, I'm starting to feel like cade is a bit overrated. & he duck smoke from all the top PG's. I bet he play tonight vs Portland lol
Basketball has changed so much, now one of the worst teams ever has 2-3 players that are as skilled as some of the best players in the 80s or 90s
dude seriously! this is an under rated comment.
@@Coolhand69thanks in technique and skills basketball has made a huge jump
Every since the endorsement from from Dame time and Westbrook Ivey been ballin out what do you know😂
I feel like we be waiting on this from him
Unlocked them
We win games when Cade not playing
He was being benched for what again.????🤔🤔🤔
Killian hayes 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 monty is a joke
Ivey owns the Kings #AllGrit
the kings are that team
Put
Cade
At
SG
DETROIT VS EVERYBODY
at this point, wizards is gonna be the last seed
Pistons at some point is going to have to make a decision about Ivey and Cade. I am not totally sure they can play together. Ivey looks better without Cade.
Cade holding him back
Now it's trade Cade and fire Monty... we can't be this extreme... this team hasn't played full strength all season... and honestly the Kings didn't take them seriously. Though this is a impressive win... we can't get besides ourselves... Cade and Ivey are both great Monty's job depends on how he can get both of them to play together... which will be a tough task.
If I'm Detroit I'm trading Cunningham. No need for him. Go get something for him.
That would be painful but the trade value would be high, all these guards are becoming redundant
Look at the Kings, it had to be tough to trade Hali but Fox and him didn’t fit.
the kings are also a trash organization and not an example to look up to despite their recent development they are largely unproven all time and in recent time, just only made playoffs last year after missing it for 16 seasons@@rainbowbabyblog5995
No they don't. Monty just needs to attempt running JI at point and Cade at SG, but he is slow, spineless, and hates JI for whatever reason. He's held back his opportunities all season.
pistons w...
They play better without Cade
They'll play better once Jaden gets a better and handle on the ball, and they can move Cade to Sg.
@@dantemassey600Cade averages like 6 turnovers a game but alright lol
I hate ppl like you … cade make them batter so does ivey we need them both in the future to compete damn ppl
Always want players beefing or picking sides
@@spencer8699yep! And none of them are forced lol. He just slowly crawls into bad spots and just hands the ball to the other team. It’s actually pathetic they still let him run the point so much as they do.
@@dantemassey600this is facts. I’ve said from the moment Cade was drafted that he was not a PG. his closest comparison is Booker. Cade can make passes but he can’t run a team. Jaden needs to be the long term PG. However, Jaden is also not ready for that right now either. Hopefully he will be next year.
Baby Russ
Detroit Pistons beat Sacramento Kings in Sacramento?
It must be the haircut he look like p diddy
Cutting your just prove your serious to the game...
monty williams is the biggest joke of a coach the league has ever seen
This might be the most talented worst coached team ever.
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Everyone making lots of points because defense is illegal in nba 🎉🎉
Shows how dumb Monty is. Really thought Hayes was better than Ivey. 😂
Trade cade
Trade Cade Cunningham and killian Hayes
👌🏾
This is why the Kings are really ass. They get blown out by 30 it seems once or twice a week. They can even lose games like this to teams that have no business beating them.
Someone should check that stat actually. The Kings average margin of deficit in losses 😭
Father, please grant me the courage to speak the truth as this young disciple of yours does. In the Almighty Creator's name, Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you Jaden and thank you God for saving a wretch like me.
Trade dude for pat
The best player in europe Vezenkov being treated like some 3rd country scum by playing 3 mins here and there by one of the worst teams in the NBA the kings who never won anything
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Monty is trying to ruin jaden
Lul