I love the fact that Car is technically a Celtic word. I've had English speakers who are anti-Welsh-language (for whatever silly reasons) try to say that Welsh isn't a real language because it borrows so many words from English (which is painfully ironic when one looks at the number of French loanwords in the English dictionary), and one that they throw out a lot is Car. Britons were using that word before the ancestors of the English language were ever spoken in Britain. Love it.
Dr. Crawford, this was a very fascinating video. Funnily enough, I had recently already learned a few of the etymologies mentioned in the video prior to watching. I did actually get most of them right. I wasn’t sure about origin of murder of crows and had educated guesses on the ones that I was less familiar with. Please do more of this kind of video.
6/8. I thought false for Otter/Hydra because I figured Otter was probably WGmc, while the loss of initial O would only occur in NGmc. I thought true for Mur-Der because I figured Dere (sp) could be related to Drungus in Latin and Throng in English.
Dr Crawford, Very interesting. In Sanskrit, there is a manual of “dhaatus” or “elements” that list most basic word forming elements. Adding prefixes, suffixes, and word compounding rules, one can make limitless number of words definite unique meanings. Amazing IE family linguistics.
Also from the same root as yoke and yoga is Greek zeugos (yoke or couple, as a yoke is often used to bind two oxen together), which gives us Hebrew zug and Arabic zawj (or in vernacular joz because of metathesis), both meaning couple.
@@randomuser-xc2wr Not Proto-Semitic, as there are no cognates in Ethio-Semitic, Akkadian or Ugaritic. Both Arabic زوج and Hebrew זוג were loaned from Aramaic zuga- זוגא, which itself was loaned from Greek.
@@randomuser-xc2wr 1. Just because a word has three consonants does not mean that it is necessarily Semitic in origin. 2. Just because Arabic is conservative, does not mean that there are no loanwords in Arabic (there are plenty. 3. Proto-Semitic and Proto Indo-European were contemporaneous to each other. 4. The fact that Hebrew zug and Arabic zawj descend from Greek zeugos through Aramaic zuga is not controversial.
I knew the one about the crows was wrong because I knew the origin was from the application of "murder" to a gathering of crows because old superstitious folklore told that crows only gathered to judge and decide which of them would die, and the others then carried out the sentence. This then stuck even more during the Victorian era when a bunch of silly names were assigned to various congregations of animals, such as a "parliament of owls" or a "congress of ravens."
Cybele what I find interesting is the word "sisu". We have a similar sounding word "ziezo", but it also reminds me of the word see-saw. I don't know anything about the roots of these words, but sometimes I wonder if these sounds could be linked by association.
Sisu comes from sisä which means inner. It refers to the intestines or the guts which is interesting as in English the word guts is used in a similar meaning.
@@okaro6595 in roman times they put slaves on a see saw before they let the animals in the Colosseum. When I learned this the word came alive to me (by association).
So, I hate to be that guy, but the 'tree' : 'endure' comparison is wrong; 'tree' is from P.I.E. *dréu̯-o- (Kroonen, 2013:522) whereas Lat. dūrus more likely continues the *-rós derivative of *du̯eh₂-, whence also Sanskrit dūrá (de Vaan, 2008:184). Both references from the respective etymological dictionaries of the Leiden series.
the Silene one would've been nice to be true - I know some common Latin words that have passed on to English in one way or another such as _amor_ and _arena_ were originally borrowed into Latin from Etruscan.
I read in Wiktionary that "candle" and "kindle" are cognates, and was suspicious. Shouldn't the initial consonant change in one language or the other? There's a Murderkill River, which is redundant, but not in the way you'd think. "Kill" means "stream", so redundant with "river", and "murder" probably means "muddy".
I guessed "murder" was wrong because a certain person made a TH-cam, that high-rank languages rarely borrow from low rank languages citing the tiny number of Irish words in Icelandic even though genetically many of the mothers were Irish slaves I guessed "Silene" was wrong because Selene is a Greek moon goddess Lars Porsena of Clusium, by the nine gods he swore I never heard of Silene as an Etruscan goddess I gueesed the ones citing Grimm;s Law as correct and I already knew yoga and weird
A bit like the "Kansa" of Amme-rika over the ocean to West ['kansa' in Van/mdrnFinnish = folk, nation, inhabitants on the land] the Sap-mi had no real name for themselves. They came here from the East, nomads as they were and would remain, if they could. I suspect the sounds/morphems [Asir Root Language] såå(g)-me, = 'saw me' might have to do with 'Sap-mi', 'Saami'. Because Asir were always here.
I have a sincere and serious question for you,Mr Crawford. In most of if not all of the videos I have watched of you. You explain what nordic peoples and Vikings did not have in terms of tattoos and such, but you have not really mentioned about what they did have and what they actually looked like. The Anglo-Saxon chronicle does not seem to put much characteristic on the great heathen army, and of course, we only have one source of what they possibly looked like, and you have been skeptical of that interpretation. So, in essence, what did Nordic peoples from the Viking era actually look like? Did they have long flowing hair and long flowing beards? Were they these hyper masculine steroid raged giants? Who were they?
Oh, I forgot ;) : vakn, vatn, vakni, vatni = water, "aq-ua" våt = wet vääto = moisture but the oldest human sound for it is Asir Root 'å'. In modern ARL and Swedish it, å, only means moving water, river, big creek, while the Frank (Gåål) tongue still today keeps original meaning.
Spoilers for the ending do not read this comment until you watched the ending Otter really surprised me. I thought that since *wudr° evolved to English water, and since otter seems like a Germanic word, it wouldn't make sense for a similar word to evolve so differently. Is otter a loan word? murder of crows I already knew was something some bored English dude's made up for fun lol
Weird fooled me. I called it false because I thought it was one of the few Celtic words that the Anglo-Saxons adopted. Silene I saw through as fake because it was the name of a Greek moon goddess and not Etruscan. There are quite a few English words, some very common, which come to us from Etruscan through Latin, one of these is person, which derives from an Etruscan word meaning mask, phersu. Murder fooled me, but it shouldn't have. A murder of crows is evidently a recent coinage. It's been recently fashionable to coin words for groups of animals that people of the past regarded as useless detail. They would say "a flock of crows" just like they would apply flock to any other group of birds. I must admit to indulging in that silliness myself. I coined the phrase "a frenzy of ferrets". But it didn't catch on. Instead, the term is "a business of ferrets" -- inferior in every way in my opinion.
Not far from here, outside Vöur (the Original Groundland Vöur, 'Vöyri' in Van/mdrnFinnish. That is why this is Pohjan-maa [Van: Ground-Land, Base-Land], "Öster-botten") if you sail into the sunset, the last group of islands before you reach the open Kvarken and Rot-sii, the land of Sven and Svea's clan, are called Vals-Öuran [Choice/Selection Islands]. Official maps will give you the standard Swedified version. In modern Finnish, the translation is Valassaaret [Whale Islands] which is completely misleading. Who saw a whale in the Bothnian Sea since the 1st Ragnaröik? :D It has 0 to do with the waltz either. It is the location of the local As-Val, the summer ritual where Asir daughters and Asir sons with the right to marry and make babies and families were joined for life. I suggest this is the Kelt (from Asir Root and Van Languages for golden, yellow) legend of Ar-Tor and A-val-on of much later era. Morphems wander, base idea remains as aeons pass. On Vals-Öuran you will find neatly laid out stone spirals, maybe 25 mtrs across, which where used in the Val-ritual. They can be found all over what was called "Kvenland" in medieval times, already ancient by then. Also on Hara-Ön, Jänissaari, Hare Island, over on the Russian coast to the NE. Ergo (phew :D ) : My people were never "Swedes". We were not absent from these lands in pre-Christian times. Artifacts like Vals-Öuran and Vöur etc (only scratching tiny surface of gigantic dome of evidence on all levels), which are not part of proto-Vaner, Finnish culture and meme heritage, prove that we were here centuries and why not millennia before "Sweden" existed and the Papacy used them to destroy Hel and kill us all (if they could have) in the year AD 1050, at least down in Uusimaa, Oden's Land. Which event, btw, Adam of Bremen disguises in his Chronicle of AD 1076. He fails to mention the Hel-vetian mercenaries, if memory serves. We are not Finns either, although natural mix is pretty solid these days. Maybe 100 000 real Asir Root native speakers left on the planet. We are the Asir. :) Hel-o! :) O is the sun, A is the I, the family, the House. A-sir is conscious man. Noam Chomsky is plain wrong. ;)
For the basics on the Indo-European languages: th-cam.com/video/9UQnSmEzxMI/w-d-xo.html
this game is so fun i would love to see more videos like this
I love the fact that Car is technically a Celtic word. I've had English speakers who are anti-Welsh-language (for whatever silly reasons) try to say that Welsh isn't a real language because it borrows so many words from English (which is painfully ironic when one looks at the number of French loanwords in the English dictionary), and one that they throw out a lot is Car.
Britons were using that word before the ancestors of the English language were ever spoken in Britain. Love it.
I was expecting to get a number right, but was surprised to get them all. An explanation of the false ones would have been fun.
never expected so many of them to be true
Yeah, etymology is something amateurs can pursue with noteworthy success.
It is like that game two truths and a lie, so much fun! More of this, please.
Yes to this!, please do more when You can. Also never would have guessed the link between Horse and Car.
Dr. Crawford, this was a very fascinating video. Funnily enough, I had recently already learned a few of the etymologies mentioned in the video prior to watching. I did actually get most of them right. I wasn’t sure about origin of murder of crows and had educated guesses on the ones that I was less familiar with. Please do more of this kind of video.
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6/8.
I thought false for Otter/Hydra because I figured Otter was probably WGmc, while the loss of initial O would only occur in NGmc.
I thought true for Mur-Der because I figured Dere (sp) could be related to Drungus in Latin and Throng in English.
I also managed 6/8, getting the last six correct and missing in the first two.
Tree and durum was new to me, didn’t know that. Silène I didn’t buy. But this was fun.
Dr Crawford,
Very interesting. In Sanskrit, there is a manual of “dhaatus” or “elements” that list most basic word forming elements. Adding prefixes, suffixes, and word compounding rules, one can make limitless number of words definite unique meanings. Amazing IE family linguistics.
Also from the same root as yoke and yoga is Greek zeugos (yoke or couple, as a yoke is often used to bind two oxen together), which gives us Hebrew zug and Arabic zawj (or in vernacular joz because of metathesis), both meaning couple.
@@randomuser-xc2wr
Not Proto-Semitic, as there are no cognates in Ethio-Semitic, Akkadian or Ugaritic.
Both Arabic زوج and Hebrew זוג were loaned from Aramaic zuga- זוגא, which itself was loaned from Greek.
@@randomuser-xc2wr
1. Just because a word has three consonants does not mean that it is necessarily Semitic in origin.
2. Just because Arabic is conservative, does not mean that there are no loanwords in Arabic (there are plenty.
3. Proto-Semitic and Proto Indo-European were contemporaneous to each other.
4. The fact that Hebrew zug and Arabic zawj descend from Greek zeugos through Aramaic zuga is not controversial.
Man, how is it you take off your hat and your hair is freaking perfect? Not jostled or nothing. Teach me your secrets!
Excellent fun! More please!
I liked this one. Lol need more games.
That was fun, thanks.
I knew the one about the crows was wrong because I knew the origin was from the application of "murder" to a gathering of crows because old superstitious folklore told that crows only gathered to judge and decide which of them would die, and the others then carried out the sentence. This then stuck even more during the Victorian era when a bunch of silly names were assigned to various congregations of animals, such as a "parliament of owls" or a "congress of ravens."
I was fairly sure I got them all right and did.
And ok is the word for yoke. First, simplest sound for it. ;)
This is such a great concept! hope you do more of these in the future.
11:30 Somehow, you made the word "rizz" almost sound acceptable
I just think they're adorable ☺
Cybele
what I find interesting is the word "sisu". We have a similar sounding word "ziezo", but it also reminds me of the word see-saw.
I don't know anything about the roots of these words, but sometimes I wonder if these sounds could be linked by association.
Sisu comes from sisä which means inner. It refers to the intestines or the guts which is interesting as in English the word guts is used in a similar meaning.
@@okaro6595 in roman times they put slaves on a see saw before they let the animals in the Colosseum. When I learned this the word came alive to me (by association).
This was fun! Made me wrack my thinkmeat
You mean your concept organ?
@@giannixx *concept meat pain intensifies*
So, I hate to be that guy, but the 'tree' : 'endure' comparison is wrong; 'tree' is from P.I.E. *dréu̯-o- (Kroonen, 2013:522) whereas Lat. dūrus more likely continues the *-rós derivative of *du̯eh₂-, whence also Sanskrit dūrá (de Vaan, 2008:184).
Both references from the respective etymological dictionaries of the Leiden series.
_That_ guy?
Isn't this why we're here?
@@xCorvus7x Fair point
This was fun
that was fun
Yes nomenclature
the Silene one would've been nice to be true - I know some common Latin words that have passed on to English in one way or another such as _amor_ and _arena_ were originally borrowed into Latin from Etruscan.
I read in Wiktionary that "candle" and "kindle" are cognates, and was suspicious. Shouldn't the initial consonant change in one language or the other?
There's a Murderkill River, which is redundant, but not in the way you'd think. "Kill" means "stream", so redundant with "river", and "murder" probably means "muddy".
I guessed "murder" was wrong because a certain person made a TH-cam, that high-rank languages rarely borrow from low rank languages citing the tiny number of Irish words in Icelandic even though genetically many of the mothers were Irish slaves
I guessed "Silene" was wrong because Selene is a Greek moon goddess
Lars Porsena of Clusium, by the nine gods he swore
I never heard of Silene as an Etruscan goddess
I gueesed the ones citing Grimm;s Law as correct and I already knew yoga and weird
I got all but the last one - Tree=Endure. I thought that was false.
A bit like the "Kansa" of Amme-rika over the ocean to West ['kansa' in Van/mdrnFinnish = folk, nation, inhabitants on the land] the Sap-mi had no real name for themselves. They came here from the East, nomads as they were and would remain, if they could. I suspect the sounds/morphems [Asir Root Language] såå(g)-me, = 'saw me' might have to do with 'Sap-mi', 'Saami'. Because Asir were always here.
that was fun - I knew that murder of crows was wrong everything else I just didn't answer ;-)
I made one mistake, and I blame it on my lack of knowledge of Old Irish, or any Irish for that matter.
I have a sincere and serious question for you,Mr Crawford. In most of if not all of the videos I have watched of you. You explain what nordic peoples and Vikings did not have in terms of tattoos and such, but you have not really mentioned about what they did have and what they actually looked like. The Anglo-Saxon chronicle does not seem to put much characteristic on the great heathen army, and of course, we only have one source of what they possibly looked like, and you have been skeptical of that interpretation. So, in essence, what did Nordic peoples from the Viking era actually look like? Did they have long flowing hair and long flowing beards? Were they these hyper masculine steroid raged giants? Who were they?
Oh, I forgot ;) :
vakn, vatn, vakni, vatni = water, "aq-ua"
våt = wet
vääto = moisture
but the oldest human sound for it is Asir Root 'å'.
In modern ARL and Swedish it, å, only means moving water, river, big creek,
while the Frank (Gåål) tongue still today keeps original meaning.
Yall would be good at playing the board game balderdash
You made it too obvious by providing too much information about the words that were actual cognates. However, it was fun. Thank you.
only one I got wrong was number 3
Spoilers for the ending
do not read this comment
until you watched the ending
Otter really surprised me. I thought that since *wudr° evolved to English water, and since otter seems like a Germanic word, it wouldn't make sense for a similar word to evolve so differently.
Is otter a loan word?
murder of crows I already knew was something some bored English dude's made up for fun lol
Alright, let’s see:
car = horse: TRUE
wheel = chakra: FALSE
otter = hydra: TRUE
weird = Urðr: TRUE
murder = Morrígan: FALSE
yoga = yoke: TRUE
silene = beautiful: FALSE
tree = endure: TRUE
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Wow, I would have thought I’d do worse
What is this put the woman back on 😂😂
Weird fooled me. I called it false because I thought it was one of the few Celtic words that the Anglo-Saxons adopted. Silene I saw through as fake because it was the name of a Greek moon goddess and not Etruscan. There are quite a few English words, some very common, which come to us from Etruscan through Latin, one of these is person, which derives from an Etruscan word meaning mask, phersu.
Murder fooled me, but it shouldn't have. A murder of crows is evidently a recent coinage. It's been recently fashionable to coin words for groups of animals that people of the past regarded as useless detail. They would say "a flock of crows" just like they would apply flock to any other group of birds. I must admit to indulging in that silliness myself. I coined the phrase "a frenzy of ferrets". But it didn't catch on. Instead, the term is "a business of ferrets" -- inferior in every way in my opinion.
Not far from here, outside Vöur (the Original Groundland Vöur, 'Vöyri' in Van/mdrnFinnish. That is why this is Pohjan-maa [Van: Ground-Land, Base-Land], "Öster-botten") if you sail into the sunset, the last group of islands before you reach the open Kvarken and Rot-sii, the land of Sven and Svea's clan, are called Vals-Öuran [Choice/Selection Islands]. Official maps will give you the standard Swedified version.
In modern Finnish, the translation is Valassaaret [Whale Islands] which is completely misleading. Who saw a whale in the Bothnian Sea since the 1st Ragnaröik? :D It has 0 to do with the waltz either.
It is the location of the local As-Val, the summer ritual where Asir daughters and Asir sons with the right to marry and make babies and
families were joined for life. I suggest this is the Kelt (from Asir Root and Van Languages for golden, yellow) legend of Ar-Tor and A-val-on
of much later era. Morphems wander, base idea remains as aeons pass.
On Vals-Öuran you will find neatly laid out stone spirals, maybe 25 mtrs across, which where used in the Val-ritual.
They can be found all over what was called "Kvenland" in medieval times, already ancient by then. Also on Hara-Ön, Jänissaari, Hare Island, over on the Russian coast to the NE.
Ergo (phew :D ) : My people were never "Swedes". We were not absent from these lands in pre-Christian times. Artifacts like Vals-Öuran and Vöur etc (only scratching tiny surface of gigantic dome of evidence on all levels), which are not part of proto-Vaner, Finnish culture and meme heritage, prove that we were here centuries and why not millennia before "Sweden" existed and the Papacy used them to destroy Hel and kill us all (if they could have) in the year AD 1050, at least down in Uusimaa, Oden's Land. Which event, btw, Adam of Bremen disguises in his Chronicle of AD 1076. He fails to mention the Hel-vetian mercenaries, if memory serves.
We are not Finns either, although natural mix is pretty solid these days. Maybe 100 000 real Asir Root native speakers left on the planet.
We are the Asir. :) Hel-o! :) O is the sun, A is the I, the family, the House. A-sir is conscious man. Noam Chomsky is plain wrong. ;)
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5 / 8
that was funny
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I only got two wrong.
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