Thank you very much for this video which has been extremely useful, I ordered the parts and I have been able to repair my battery charger at low cost, fantastic.
Hi Wayne, thanks for your videos. I have the powerdrive model17930. The charger has been working fine until today it started tripping the breaker even when unplugged from the cart? The charger initially comes on with a hum, the amp meter does not move then trips the breaker. Any suggestions on which part to replace?
Wayne, Hope you can help followed your instructions and nothing wrong should charge. Replaced the relay common problem but still no charge. The problem is I plug the DC cable into the cart the ammeter jumps to @15 amps then settles down to @1 amp same condition as before batteries are not being charged this is my first cart 48-volt club car new interstate batteries the battery light on the dash seems to occasionally go on and off for no reason? THANKS for you help Tony
Wayne, Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Have PowerDrive 3 Charger clicks when plugged into cart and needle jumps a little maybe to 2amp then goes to zero. Borrowed neighbors charger and cart charges fine. Do you know what could be wrong with charger? Thank You!
Hello Wayne. I have Powerdrive 2 with the rectifier removed and wires not marked. I have a new one. I think white goes to +, black from the fuse to -, and the secondary windings to the 2 AC taps? Thanks.
Hello Wayne, I'm new to the electric golf carts. My relay is not clicking when i plug my cart in & i have 44.5 volts ? I did test my plug on the cart & it's got 44.5. Also if a solenoid sticks can you tap on it to get it to unstick. I ask this because I'm getting 44.5 volts on both large terminals with the key turned off. Thanks Charles
Your batteries are too low to engage your charger. Try using a 12 volt car charger on each individual battery fir about 15 minutes, then try your cart charger immediately after that to see if the relay will close. Yes you can tap on a solenoid, but that isn't your problem. Also, if you have a resistor that goes between the 2 large solenoid terminals, then you will always have volts on both sides. You need to temporarily remove that resistor to see if you have volts on both sides.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thank you sir i tried it again and after about a minute it clicked and came on & worked. Can you tell me how to check the solenoid? I'm not getting a click when i turn the key on and the cart will not go in either direction
I have the Power Drive 3 charger. I have replaced key parts with Amazon parts. I do have a click sound when I plug it in. However, the meter needle will jump about one fourth of an inch and drop back to 0. Why doesn't the meter needle advance forward and charge?
Thanks for quick reply! I forgot to mention that my neighbors charger works fine on my golf car! and I have new batteries. Therefore, can we rule out a bad obc ?
You said at the end that there has to be at least 43 volts for the relay to close. My batteries are just two years old so I don’t think they are the problem. It started with the cart just stopped while driving and when I toed the car back home and plugged in the charger the charger clicked but didn’t give any ampere on the reader on the charger. So I assumed the charger was bad and the batteries were empty hence why my cart stopped. I have not done anything to fix this but after watching your video I might change the relay or rectifier. Here is the question; what if the batteries are good o and under 43 volts?
I hope you put the cart in tow before you towed it. Check the batteries with a volt meter. Check each one individually and also the entire pack, write down those numbers. Also Check volts at cart receptacle , and see what you got. If your numberz are good, unplug charger from the wall, then plug and unplug the cord into the cart a few times and see if youcan hear the relay click.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ops didn’t know there was a toe mode. I only toed it 200m. Hope I didn’t damage it too much? Thanks for the suggestion. I tried and the charger is still not clicking or showing anything in the ampere-meter. I think I will order a new relay and try. Not so many cart shops here in Sweden where I live :)
I have a power drive on board charger on a 03 caryall 6 charger doesn't start when plugging in charger replaced the relay and still nothing jumped the relay with the 2 back wires and it turns on I also tested the heat sink and everything good I did notice tho I dont have referance battery voltage at the blue and red wire going to the relay wouldn't be aon board computer in my case?all wires and fuses look good not sure what my issue is
Do you ohm out Power Drive 3 with top and side heat sinks the same way shown in this video? The top sink on my PD3 appears to be bad if so. Can I just order a new sink off Amazon (which do not specify top or side) or do I need to buy the set of top and side sinks?
@princeinflorida214. If it is not bolted to the case, maybe you have a heatsink instead? You can send me pictures, by text, and I can point it out for you.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Yes that's it. I now understand that the heat sink is the rectifier in the PwerDrive One. Thank you for such a useful video. It has enabled me to help a few of my neighbors at this point.
Do you leave the charger plugged into the cart receptacle to check the fuse and circuit breaker in the Powerdrive charger (specifically asking for the Powerdrive 1.) Also , do you check the fuse on the back of the cart receptacle without taking it out of the clear plastic cover? Great video, thanks!
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thanks for the quick reply. This one has me stumped. I checked all the fuses, relay, heat sink, connections at the back of the charge receptacle on the cart and all appear to be good. Good battery connections and 49.5 volts battery pack. I plug the charger in and it just hums, the needle doesn't move.
Very helpful I have the same rectifier I put the negative probe on the positive and I am getting no readings at all on the other 3. Does that mean it’s bad?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Hi Wayne ok so I would plug my charger in and it would just sit and hum you heard the relay click but the gauge would not kick in. I changed the rectifier today and it now kicks in but trips straight away? What else should I check? Power drive 2 charger.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thanks for getting back to me so quickly ok I just changed out the breaker I got with the kit I already checked the fuse on the charging point and the in line fuse on the 110v wire. Fuse on the charger itself is good but still the same trips the breaker. All batteries are showing 8.15 to 8.17 volts
You said the charger breaker trips immediately upon the charger coming on. That breaker is on the 110 volt side. If the charger comes on and transformer hums, then the 110 is getting thru the transformer coil, that means power should be coming out the back side of transformer. Unhook the 2 wires going from transformer secondary to the rectifier. Separate the 2 wires so they don't touch anything, then plug charger in both ends and see what the volts are coming out the transformer.
Blows the popable fuse, relay does click. Multimeter only shows display on one of the 3 poles on rectifier. Is this the likely problem before I order? In line fuse is good
Sorry having a hard time following you? I don't know what a popable fuse is? Maybe that is the breaker? And as far as a display on a multimeter, if you checked the rectifier according to my video, with all wires removed, that will tell you if the rectifier is bad
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 circuit breaker on front blows. Yea the rectifier test with multimeter would only display resistance on one of the 3 non positive poles
Hi Wayne followed your instruction's tried to find another charger to charge the batteries the only one I could find was automotive 24 volts so made 2 24 volt banks and charged let the banks equalize then moved the cart f and r for 20 ft the voltage drop was .4 the pack was 50.6 volts after automotive battery charger new interstate batteries any Ideas thanks. Tony
Sorry, not a clue what you are asking or what your situation is, or what year or model cart you have, what it is or is not doing??? So I think your issue is batteries
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 The problem is the battery charger will not charge when it is plugged in the ammeter jumps up and goes down to 2 amps and then to zero within 5 minutes the charge light goes on and off. the cart will not move when plugged in that works 1999 ds is the model year does that help? THANKS
cart won't move while plugged in. Your obc might be bad. Temp a jumper wire from back of charge receptacle black, to main pack negative and see if charger comes on
Hello Wayne My power drive 3 club car charger is driving me crazy - HELP. I have new batteries, new rectifier, new sinks, new circuit breaker . When I plug in my charger after a round of golf, the charger clicks and then about 30 seconds later the amp meter clicks about a quarter inch and then returns to 0. I borrowed my neighbors charger and his charger works fine ! What is going on here ?
If you are talking about the rectifier, put voltage meter on ohms, 1k maybe, then put negative probe on the positive rectifier tab, and touch other 3 tabs with positive probe. You should get close to 480-500 on the 2 tabs and about 900 on the other tab. If not, replace it. Do test with all wires off the rectifier
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I did just as you say & got no ohm reading on any of the three post with the negative lead on the positive post ( or connector ). So the rectifier is bad, is that correct? Thanks for your time.
wayne my (not working)powerdrive 1 has the switch it front not flipping back n forth - the heat sink is fine. is the front swith supposed to flip on n off?
That front breaker, will only flip when charger is plugged into the live wall plug. If it is plugged into the wall, and is still floppy, then it would be bad and needs to be replaced.
I have a 1995 club cart runs fine until it comes to a hill the lights dim and it slow way down after I get over the hill lights go back bright and speed picks back up how can I keep the speed up ? 48 volts cart, any ideas ? Thanks
Most carts will slowdown going up hill. If yours is slowing enough to dim the lites, I would investigate the batteries. Either the are not completely charged, or maybe nearing the end of their life? Or you can invest in a bigger controller, wires, and solenoid.
I would like to help, but sorry I can't figure out your wording? Apparently your charger relay isn't clicking?? Could be bad relay, bad obc, bad charge receptacle, not enough juice in batteries.
I have a power drive 2 charger model#22110-11. When I try to charge my battery,when I plug in the power the circuit breaker kicks out. I have replaced the relay ,rectifier and the circuit breaker.It still does the same thing.When I plug the dc cord in I can hear the relay chick. I have used a friend’s charger and it works find.Do you have any suggestions as might be the problem Thanks for your time Lloyd Moore
If you have replaced all those parts, and those parts are still good, then that leaves the fuse inside the charger( I would check that first, to make sure it is good), then ring out the dc cord to make sure it is not shorting. After that, it only leaves the ammeter And the transformer.
Hi Wayne, love your videos very very informative. My issue with my 1999 Club Car is it doesn't appear to be charging I tested the heat sink, circuit breaker, continuity on all wires in and out but can't get the charger to kick on. I finally checked the series of batteries and I'm reading about 44 and a volts. Then I checked the receptacle where you plug the charger into and was only reading about 26 volts. When I tried testing the third prong to ground I read nothing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated and actually was wondering if I could bypass the safety so I can just charge the batteries or if that would be a really bad idea. Thanks in advance and really do appreciate your videos. PS any parts I need I will be sure to buy them off you!
2 things to try first : First, look at the ring terminal on the red wire from charge receptacle to main positive battery post, to see if it is corroded or blown up? You may have to cut out a Piece of the wire and replace a terminal onto it. This is usually the most common thing I find. If that red wire is OK, tug on the gray wire on back of cart charge receptacle and see if it pulls out?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Wayne I thank you for all your help I took the receptacle out and kind of rigged everything together the charger kicks right on I'm sure I'm going to be fine for a couple of weeks but I don't have an ebay account I want to buy all my parts from you how do I contact you. I seen the parts on Amazon can I buy it there and have you get credit or Commission. Or can I buy it from you direct. You are an absolutely awesome guy and the sale is going to go to you. Thank you so much for your help. Larry😃
Larry, glad to help. I do have an ebay store, but I only put limited parts on there because ebay takes so much money from each sale. I have a guy currently building me a website, so I can put more parts on the site and sell for less than I can on ebay. Keep an eye out for the site, it's probably 1 month away still. It will be waynesgolfcarts.com Go ahead and buy your part on Amazon, no worries, don't inconvenience yourself, just so I can make a couple bucks. 👍
Definitely something wrong. Could be the charger, obc, batteries. Easiest thing to do, is to try someone else's charger on your cart, and your charger on their cart. That would determine if the problem is in your cart or in your charger. You are killing your batteries if you are still using it and only charging at 4 amps.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ok I’m going to ask my neighbor to let me borrow his golf cart charger and go from there. Now you pointed me in the right direction and I have an idea where to start troubleshooting my problem. Thanks a lot for your help.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 It's a PD 2. I've tested all the parts I can and they test within the parameters. Rectifier 548 ,1100,548. and I can hear the relay operating as it should. I plugged in the charger and put a fan on it stayed cool to the touch. Thank you for the response it's very much appreciated.
If it is working, but getting hot, it could be the outside temp is hotter than the parameters of the charger, or you can have 1 or more batteries that are old, or weak, or in need of water?
Hi Wayne! I’m a new subscriber. We just bought a 99 club car that came with the original power drive 1 charger. When I begin charging, the 15amp breaker on the charger trips within 5 minutes after charging has started. If I reset the breaker, it begins charging again, and then trips after a few on/off cycles. Any thoughts on what this may be signaling?
When I plug my charger in the ammeter pegs all the way to the left and vibrates. I have changed the ammeter and still get the same results. Otherwise the charger works fine.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Yes, the charger comes on and off, does the diagnostics, shuts off after 16 hours, does everything described in the manual. When I plug it in, it comes on in about 3 seconds and the ammeter needle pegs left below zero and vibrates the whole time.
If it does charger, and you already changed the meter, the only things I can think of are : bad meter (could be poor quality control) I would try a different meter Wires are crossed to meter The short jumper harness from relay to meter is bad
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Wires match wiring diagram, (two white wires to the + terminal, red wire to the other) I'll check continuity of the wires to make sure there is no break in the wires. Do you supply the meter, the one I bought from amazon was $37 and is an exact duplicate of what was installed. (Prime, Clevland Ohio USA, Model 18)
I should also mention that this charger is being used on a 2009 Precedent that was modified from 6 batteries to 4 12 volt batteries before I bought it. I have had it for a month and the first few times we charged it the ammeter stayed around 15 amps even when completely charged.
first verify your entire battery pack voltage, to make sure you have enough volts. Then try tugging on the gray wire that comes out the back of the cart receptacle, to see if the wire pulls out.
A friend of mine wanted me to check his golf cart charger (19 Amp) Power Drive. Heat sink diodes are good, all I can do is ohm out the relay coil. As I thought, we need his golf cart with batteries to test. Hope its not the onboard computer. Thanks for the tips. We had a bad electric storm a few days ago.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 He thought the diodes were dead, it wasn't charging his batteries. But, he was pointing at the relay and thought that was the rectifiers.
If the dash lite comes on and off it's telling you the batteries are low. Do you have a volt meter and do you know how to use it? Tell me what the pack voltage is? Then drive cart about 20 feet forward and back. then check volts again and tell me what it is ?
check out the vglide to see if any of the pads are worn or pitted. Also if you have a row of solenoids, check them out. Your cart does not have a speed sensor
that relay in the charger that needs voltage from the Cart to start... what asshole made that circut SMFH... dont let that guy design any safety equipment unless you have a death wish
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 this video helped me understand the system enough to get it to work. however im aware i still do not understand the system.. i think the Kart might be over charging. to start original complaint was "its not charging" and i found the charger was never coming on.. i started by checking the battery's on the 48V system. all battery's were dead and 4 of them below 1V. i charged each one individually and got 5 out of 6 of the 8V battery's back to about 7.5V, one battery was lagging behind at about 5V. when i check the whole system connected i had 42V and thats when i was able to trip the relay in the factory charging system and get it "Fixxed" however the owner reports it is now charging for an extended time. i was trying to avoid them buying a battery but i now have a hunch at least that one battery needs to be replaced.. do you think that is correct? do you think something is wrong with the charger and toasted the battery's last year? or am i over thinking it.. The charger seemed to be putting in 14Amps when it said it was speced for 13Amps, this could be true or a fault in the Analog ampmeter.. appreciate the video.. you helped at least one guy the machine is fixed, charging and driving.. i just wanna make sure it stays fixed and dose not make a fool of me..
Your explanation was very good. Thanks for making the explanation simple and showing where the parts come from in the charger.
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Wayne, thank you for taking the time to do this! I finally feel confident in troubleshooting what I’m sure is a simple fix for my charger!
Nice, it should be easy. If you need help, contact me.
Thank you for the info, ordered my parts from your ebay store. Got them today and installed. Charger is working again! Thank you!
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Thank you for taking the time to make this video... super helpful!
nice, glad to help
Thank you very much for this video which has been extremely useful, I ordered the parts and I have been able to repair my battery charger at low cost, fantastic.
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Hi Wayne, thanks for your videos. I have the powerdrive model17930. The charger has been working fine until today it started tripping the breaker even when unplugged from the cart? The charger initially comes on with a hum, the amp meter does not move then trips the breaker. Any suggestions on which part to replace?
I work for a club car dealership and I was looking for a good video to show people that explains what I say easier. thank you for this.
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Wayne, Hope you can help followed your instructions and nothing wrong should charge. Replaced the relay common problem but still no charge. The problem is I plug the DC cable into the cart the ammeter jumps to @15 amps then settles down to @1 amp same condition as before batteries are not being charged this is my first cart 48-volt club car new interstate batteries the battery light on the dash seems to occasionally go on and off for no reason? THANKS for you help Tony
Great presentation! Thank you for sharing your encyclopedic knowledge.
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Wayne, Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Have PowerDrive 3 Charger clicks when plugged into cart and needle jumps a little maybe to 2amp then goes to zero. Borrowed neighbors charger and cart charges fine. Do you know what could be wrong with charger? Thank You!
Maybe bad relay
Hello Wayne. I have Powerdrive 2 with the rectifier removed and wires not marked. I have a new one. I think white goes to +, black from the fuse to -, and the secondary windings to the 2 AC taps? Thanks.
if you go to my website, I have the charger diagram there and you can see the wires
Does the PowerDrive 2 have the heat sink? I just opened mine and done see them!
They have a rectifier
Hello Wayne, I'm new to the electric golf carts. My relay is not clicking when i plug my cart in & i have 44.5 volts ? I did test my plug on the cart & it's got 44.5. Also if a solenoid sticks can you tap on it to get it to unstick. I ask this because I'm getting 44.5 volts on both large terminals with the key turned off.
Thanks Charles
Your batteries are too low to engage your charger. Try using a 12 volt car charger on each individual battery fir about 15 minutes, then try your cart charger immediately after that to see if the relay will close. Yes you can tap on a solenoid, but that isn't your problem. Also, if you have a resistor that goes between the 2 large solenoid terminals, then you will always have volts on both sides. You need to temporarily remove that resistor to see if you have volts on both sides.
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Thank you sir i tried it again and after about a minute it clicked and came on & worked.
Can you tell me how to check the solenoid? I'm not getting a click when i turn the key on and the cart will not go in either direction
I have the Power Drive 3 charger. I have replaced key parts with Amazon parts. I do have a click sound when I plug it in. However, the meter needle will jump about one fourth of an inch and drop back to 0. Why doesn't the meter needle advance forward and charge?
Could be a bad obc, bad Amazon parts, weak battery, bad charger meter
Thanks for quick reply! I forgot to mention that my neighbors charger works fine on my golf car! and I have new batteries. Therefore, can we rule out a bad obc ?
Yes if another charger works on your cart.
You said at the end that there has to be at least 43 volts for the relay to close. My batteries are just two years old so I don’t think they are the problem. It started with the cart just stopped while driving and when I toed the car back home and plugged in the charger the charger clicked but didn’t give any ampere on the reader on the charger. So I assumed the charger was bad and the batteries were empty hence why my cart stopped. I have not done anything to fix this but after watching your video I might change the relay or rectifier. Here is the question; what if the batteries are good o and under 43 volts?
I hope you put the cart in tow before you towed it.
Check the batteries with a volt meter. Check each one individually and also the entire pack, write down those numbers.
Also Check volts at cart receptacle , and see what you got.
If your numberz are good, unplug charger from the wall, then plug and unplug the cord into the cart a few times and see if youcan hear the relay click.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ops didn’t know there was a toe mode. I only toed it 200m. Hope I didn’t damage it too much?
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried and the charger is still not clicking or showing anything in the ampere-meter. I think I will order a new relay and try. Not so many cart shops here in Sweden where I live :)
I have a power drive on board charger on a 03 caryall 6 charger doesn't start when plugging in charger replaced the relay and still nothing jumped the relay with the 2 back wires and it turns on I also tested the heat sink and everything good I did notice tho I dont have referance battery voltage at the blue and red wire going to the relay wouldn't be aon board computer in my case?all wires and fuses look good not sure what my issue is
Issue is either bad obc, bas receptacle, bad main positive wire from receptacle, bad relay, or battery problem.
Very informative and useful! Thanks!
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Do you ohm out Power Drive 3 with top and side heat sinks the same way shown in this video? The top sink on my PD3 appears to be bad if so. Can I just order a new sink off Amazon (which do not specify top or side) or do I need to buy the set of top and side sinks?
The top and bottom are different, besides myself, the only other place I know who has them is redhawk
My charger seems to charge, but the needed jumps around every few seconds. Any ideas?
Also, my charge light is also blinking on my 2002 Club Car DS IQ
One of these things :
Obc is going bad
Cart charge receptacle is bad
Dash charge lite is bad
You have 1 or more weak batteries
Wayne, good morning. Does this diagnostic apply to a Powerdrive 2?
Yes it should. The only difference may be a charger may have a rectifier or a heatsink.
thanks for the video! Where is the rectifier located on a PowerDriver 1?
You can't miss it ! Open the charger up, and it will be bolted to the back cover with 1 screw on the middle of it.
I also cannot find a rectifire in my Power Drive Model 17930.
@princeinflorida214. If it is not bolted to the case, maybe you have a heatsink instead? You can send me pictures, by text, and I can point it out for you.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Yes that's it. I now understand that the heat sink is the rectifier in the PwerDrive One.
Thank you for such a useful video. It has enabled me to help a few of my neighbors at this point.
Do you leave the charger plugged into the cart receptacle to check the fuse and circuit breaker in the Powerdrive charger (specifically asking for the Powerdrive 1.) Also , do you check the fuse on the back of the cart receptacle without taking it out of the clear plastic cover? Great video, thanks!
No need to leave charger plugged in to check a fuse, use a continuity tester.
No, dont open plastic to check fuse.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thanks for the quick reply. This one has me stumped. I checked all the fuses, relay, heat sink, connections at the back of the charge receptacle on the cart and all appear to be good. Good battery connections and 49.5 volts battery pack. I plug the charger in and it just hums, the needle doesn't move.
Could be 1 of 4 reasons for this :
Blown charger fuse
Both diodes failed
On board computer malfunction
Failed transformer
Very helpful I have the same rectifier I put the negative probe on the positive and I am getting no readings at all on the other 3. Does that mean it’s bad?
Make sure all wires are off the rectifier. Meter set to low ohms.
after doing all that, if no readings, then something is wrong.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Hi Wayne ok so I would plug my charger in and it would just sit and hum you heard the relay click but the gauge would not kick in.
I changed the rectifier today and it now kicks in but trips straight away? What else should I check? Power drive 2 charger.
You can check the fuse inside the charger, the meter, the 110 volt cord, and also check for weak charger breaker.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thanks for getting back to me so quickly ok I just changed out the breaker I got with the kit I already checked the fuse on the charging point and the in line fuse on the 110v wire. Fuse on the charger itself is good but still the same trips the breaker.
All batteries are showing 8.15 to 8.17 volts
You said the charger breaker trips immediately upon the charger coming on.
That breaker is on the 110 volt side.
If the charger comes on and transformer hums, then the 110 is getting thru the transformer coil, that means power should be coming out the back side of transformer.
Unhook the 2 wires going from transformer secondary to the rectifier. Separate the 2 wires so they don't touch anything, then plug charger in both ends and see what the volts are coming out the transformer.
Where I can buy a rectifier for my power drive2 club car charger?
Waynesgolfcarts.com
Blows the popable fuse, relay does click. Multimeter only shows display on one of the 3 poles on rectifier. Is this the likely problem before I order? In line fuse is good
Sorry having a hard time following you?
I don't know what a popable fuse is? Maybe that is the breaker?
And as far as a display on a multimeter, if you checked the rectifier according to my video, with all wires removed, that will tell you if the rectifier is bad
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 circuit breaker on front blows. Yea the rectifier test with multimeter would only display resistance on one of the 3 non positive poles
if you did the test correctly, and only get a reading on 1 tab, then it is bad.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 OK, thanks for your videos, help, and quick response! I'll post after I replace it
Hi Wayne followed your instruction's tried to find another charger to charge the batteries the only one I could find was automotive 24 volts so made 2 24 volt banks and charged let the banks equalize then moved the cart f and r for 20 ft the voltage drop was .4 the pack was 50.6 volts after automotive battery charger new interstate batteries any Ideas thanks. Tony
Sorry, not a clue what you are asking or what your situation is, or what year or model cart you have, what it is or is not doing???
So I think your issue is batteries
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 The problem is the battery charger will not charge when it is plugged in the ammeter jumps up and goes down to 2 amps and then to zero within 5 minutes the charge light goes on and off. the cart will not move when plugged in that works 1999 ds is the model year does that help? THANKS
cart won't move while plugged in.
Your obc might be bad.
Temp a jumper wire from back of charge receptacle black, to main pack negative and see if charger comes on
Question: I drove my golf cart on Monday. Came home, plugged it in. Came back to drive it Wednesday, and nothing. No power at all. Thoughts?
How do I test it?
Hello Wayne
My power drive 3 club car charger is driving me crazy - HELP. I have new batteries, new rectifier, new sinks, new circuit breaker . When I plug in my charger after a round of golf, the charger clicks and then about 30 seconds later the amp meter clicks about a quarter inch and then returns to 0. I borrowed my neighbors charger and his charger works fine !
What is going on here ?
The meter may be bad
Thank you - I will check it out
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have a 1988 club car new batteries runs about 150 yards and starts to lose power, could it be the V-Guide
Could be vglide, could be batteries not charged or wired correctly.
Once it stops what do you have to do to make it go again?
Wayne, rectifier all 3 readings open. Totally bad? Thanks in advance.
Not following what are you referring to as "open "?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 No continuity between the + post & the other three as in your video. Thanks for replying.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I didn't get the three ohm readings like you got.
If you are talking about the rectifier, put voltage meter on ohms, 1k maybe, then put negative probe on the positive rectifier tab, and touch other 3 tabs with positive probe. You should get close to 480-500 on the 2 tabs and about 900 on the other tab. If not, replace it. Do test with all wires off the rectifier
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I did just as you say & got no ohm reading on any of the three post with the negative lead on the positive post ( or connector ). So the rectifier is bad, is that correct? Thanks for your time.
wayne my (not working)powerdrive 1 has the switch it front not flipping back n forth - the heat sink is fine. is the front swith supposed to flip on n off?
That front breaker, will only flip when charger is plugged into the live wall plug.
If it is plugged into the wall, and is still floppy, then it would be bad and needs to be replaced.
I have a 1995 club cart runs fine until it comes to a hill the lights dim and it slow way down after I get over the hill lights go back bright and speed picks back up how can I keep the speed up ? 48 volts cart, any ideas ? Thanks
Most carts will slowdown going up hill. If yours is slowing enough to dim the lites, I would investigate the batteries. Either the are not completely charged, or maybe nearing the end of their life?
Or you can invest in a bigger controller, wires, and solenoid.
Dennis thank you so very much this is so informative and so helpful look forward to seeing more of your videos thank you again😅
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I dont hear a clicking on mine is the a relay bypass o verify relay is bad?
I'm not following you. What is not clicking? mcor? solenoid? charger relay? what?
Can you explain a little more clear?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 relay
I would like to help, but sorry I can't figure out your wording? Apparently your charger relay isn't clicking??
Could be bad relay, bad obc, bad charge receptacle, not enough juice in batteries.
I have a power drive 2 charger model#22110-11. When I try to charge my battery,when I plug in the power the circuit breaker kicks out. I have replaced the relay ,rectifier and the circuit breaker.It still does the same thing.When I plug the dc cord in I can hear the relay chick. I have used a friend’s charger and it works find.Do you have any suggestions as might be the problem
Thanks for your time
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If you have replaced all those parts, and those parts are still good, then
that leaves the fuse inside the charger( I would check that first, to make sure it is good), then ring out the dc cord to make sure it is not shorting.
After that, it only leaves the ammeter And the transformer.
Hi Wayne, love your videos very very informative. My issue with my 1999 Club Car is it doesn't appear to be charging I tested the heat sink, circuit breaker, continuity on all wires in and out but can't get the charger to kick on. I finally checked the series of batteries and I'm reading about 44 and a volts. Then I checked the receptacle where you plug the charger into and was only reading about 26 volts. When I tried testing the third prong to ground I read nothing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated and actually was wondering if I could bypass the safety so I can just charge the batteries or if that would be a really bad idea. Thanks in advance and really do appreciate your videos. PS any parts I need I will be sure to buy them off you!
2 things to try first :
First, look at the ring terminal on the red wire from charge receptacle to main positive battery post, to see if it is corroded or blown up?
You may have to cut out a Piece of the wire and replace a terminal onto it. This is usually the most common thing I find.
If that red wire is OK, tug on the gray wire on back of cart charge receptacle and see if it pulls out?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 hi Wayne the gray wire did pull out. How do I put it back in. 🤔
You need a new charge receptacle, v that is the problem. You can stick the gray wire back it, it was soldered in originally.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Wayne I thank you for all your help I took the receptacle out and kind of rigged everything together the charger kicks right on I'm sure I'm going to be fine for a couple of weeks but I don't have an ebay account I want to buy all my parts from you how do I contact you. I seen the parts on Amazon can I buy it there and have you get credit or Commission. Or can I buy it from you direct. You are an absolutely awesome guy and the sale is going to go to you. Thank you so much for your help. Larry😃
Larry, glad to help. I do have an ebay store, but I only put limited parts on there because ebay takes so much money from each sale.
I have a guy currently building me a website, so I can put more parts on the site and sell for less than I can on ebay.
Keep an eye out for the site, it's probably 1 month away still.
It will be
waynesgolfcarts.com
Go ahead and buy your part on Amazon, no worries, don't inconvenience yourself, just so I can make a couple bucks.
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I could only get conductivity on a known good rectifier/heat sink at a setting of at least 200K ohms. Any lower setting showed no conductivity.
Ok
When I plug the power drive the gauge needle only goes to like 4 amps and then goes back to zero after a while. What could be the issue?
How long has this been happening?
When you first plug the charger into the cart, does the needle go to 15?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 for a while now. I would say for the last 6 months. It only goes to 4 amps. Never to 15amps then down to 4amps
Definitely something wrong. Could be the charger, obc, batteries.
Easiest thing to do, is to try someone else's charger on your cart, and your charger on their cart.
That would determine if the problem is in your cart or in your charger.
You are killing your batteries if you are still using it and only charging at 4 amps.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ok I’m going to ask my neighbor to let me borrow his golf cart charger and go from there.
Now you pointed me in the right direction and I have an idea where to start troubleshooting my problem. Thanks a lot for your help.
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Thanks for the helpful info.
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My charger gets so hot I have to pick it up with gloves
If it is a pd3, that is normal
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 It's a PD 2. I've tested all the parts I can and they test within the parameters. Rectifier 548 ,1100,548. and I can hear the relay operating as it should. I plugged in the charger and put a fan on it stayed cool to the touch. Thank you for the response it's very much appreciated.
If it is working, but getting hot, it could be the outside temp is hotter than the parameters of the charger, or you can have 1 or more batteries that are old, or weak, or in need of water?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I'll re-check the 6 new batteries .Thank you for your time. Great video
Mine has a control board
Hi Wayne! I’m a new subscriber. We just bought a 99 club car that came with the original power drive 1 charger. When I begin charging, the 15amp breaker on the charger trips within 5 minutes after charging has started. If I reset the breaker, it begins charging again, and then trips after a few on/off cycles. Any thoughts on what this may be signaling?
Replace breaker
The breaker may be weak, or ac cord is shorted, or transformer is bad, or incorrect charger wiring.
Thanks Wayne!
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When I plug my charger in the ammeter pegs all the way to the left and vibrates. I have changed the ammeter and still get the same results. Otherwise the charger works fine.
The charger works fine? Comes on and off by itself, but the lays on the left the entire time?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Yes, the charger comes on and off, does the diagnostics, shuts off after 16 hours, does everything described in the manual. When I plug it in, it comes on in about 3 seconds and the ammeter needle pegs left below zero and vibrates the whole time.
If it does charger, and you already changed the meter, the only things I can think of are :
bad meter (could be poor quality control) I would try a different meter
Wires are crossed to meter
The short jumper harness from relay to meter is bad
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Wires match wiring diagram, (two white wires to the + terminal, red wire to the other) I'll check continuity of the wires to make sure there is no break in the wires. Do you supply the meter, the one I bought from amazon was $37 and is an exact duplicate of what was installed. (Prime, Clevland Ohio USA, Model 18)
I should also mention that this charger is being used on a 2009 Precedent that was modified from 6 batteries to 4 12 volt batteries before I bought it. I have had it for a month and the first few times we charged it the ammeter stayed around 15 amps even when completely charged.
Thank you great video will check out your eBay store
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very informative
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Hi wayne im a new subscriber. How do i test my relay /circuit board on my powerdrive 3 charger?. No click
first verify your entire battery pack voltage, to make sure you have enough volts.
Then try tugging on the gray wire that comes out the back of the cart receptacle, to see if the wire pulls out.
Very informative thank you
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Thank you
Awesome..Thanks
A friend of mine wanted me to check his golf cart charger (19 Amp) Power Drive. Heat sink diodes are good, all I can do is ohm out the relay coil. As I thought, we need his golf cart with batteries to test. Hope its not the onboard computer. Thanks for the tips. We had a bad electric storm a few days ago.
yes you need his cart.
What does he say is or is not happening?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 He thought the diodes were dead, it wasn't charging his batteries. But, he was pointing at the relay and thought that was the rectifiers.
Did the charger all of a sudden stop working or what?
Are the batteries good?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I haven't seen his cart or the batteries yet, I'll have to look at them tomorrow.
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Forgot to mention I watched the earlier video on how the charge works and left the battery charger on for 24 hours to get its memory back
If the dash lite comes on and off it's telling you the batteries are low.
Do you have a volt meter and do you know how to use it?
Tell me what the pack voltage is?
Then drive cart about 20 feet forward and back. then check volts again and tell me what it is ?
It hasnt stop yet it just loose power
check out the vglide to see if any of the pads are worn or pitted. Also if you have a row of solenoids, check them out. Your cart does not have a speed sensor
that relay in the charger that needs voltage from the Cart to start... what asshole made that circut SMFH... dont let that guy design any safety equipment unless you have a death wish
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@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 this video helped me understand the system enough to get it to work. however im aware i still do not understand the system.. i think the Kart might be over charging.
to start original complaint was "its not charging" and i found the charger was never coming on.. i started by checking the battery's on the 48V system. all battery's were dead and 4 of them below 1V. i charged each one individually and got 5 out of 6 of the 8V battery's back to about 7.5V, one battery was lagging behind at about 5V. when i check the whole system connected i had 42V and thats when i was able to trip the relay in the factory charging system and get it "Fixxed"
however the owner reports it is now charging for an extended time. i was trying to avoid them buying a battery but i now have a hunch at least that one battery needs to be replaced.. do you think that is correct? do you think something is wrong with the charger and toasted the battery's last year? or am i over thinking it.. The charger seemed to be putting in 14Amps when it said it was speced for 13Amps, this could be true or a fault in the Analog ampmeter..
appreciate the video.. you helped at least one guy
the machine is fixed, charging and driving.. i just wanna make sure it stays fixed and dose not make a fool of me..