The Insane Lies of Chandler Halderson
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- The Haldersons were happy in Wisconsin. However, in the summer of '21, Bart and Krista Halderson, the parents, vanished while on a trip to their cabin. There was no sign of them, and so investigators looked into who had seen them last, the successful, future SpaceX employee Chandler Halderson, younger son. But in reality, nothing about him was true.
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He was sentenced today to life in prison with no possibility of parole. Judge said " I have to ensure that the only time Mr. Halderson comes back into the community is to have the privilege of a burial that he denied his parents."
Good! He’s a coward and will live out his pathetic life as such.
Watched that today actually. Talk about an easy job for the prosecutor, barely knew his defense attorney was there. I was very impressed with the judge.
Ooof that last part stings. One point to the judge.
Thanks for the info. The quote just really drives home the highest betrayal anyone could endure. On top of the horridness , the short-sighted motive, and futile outcome for chandler and devastation for the rest involved by making this crime reality - worst of it beyond dying by the hands of your son for a reason that the crime would not solve - they lay scattered upon trash and land for eternity - never to lay whole or together again. It truly is just exhaustingly shortsighted, selfish, and cruel. Their own child.
I guess it's Just frustrating to know this ever happened to anyone ever.
Awesome quote by the judge lol
He did not put them in a box.
He did not put them under rocks.
He did not put them here or there.
He did not put them everywhere.
--His defense team.
No, please stop.
@@carolw8579 Sorry, couldn't help myself. 😁
Don’t look over there, look here😂
Dr. seuss
That poem was the cherry on top of this video sundae, lol. Thanks!
I was an active drug addict for 15 years. I’ve been sober for 4 years as of a week ago. I lied to my family and eventually they would find out my nonsense. Even in my darkest days I can’t ever imagine taking the life of anyone in my family. Today I live an amazing life and look at stories like this as a “what could have happened” in an alternate universe.
Good onya brother as the late great lemmy killmister growled "STAY CLEAN "🤗
Thank you for sharing
As an addict I couldn't even fathom killing anyone in my family.
I am also a recovering drug addict, been clean for over 7 years now, but this case hit especially close to home because I was in a situation very similar to Chandler’s. I had loving parents who worked incredibly hard for myself and my two brothers, however I started hanging out with the wrong crowd and made a lot of bad decisions. Because of that, I had to drop out of college after a year and a half due to finances and grades not being up to par, but lied to my parents and made them believe I was still enrolled. I’ll never forget those hours sitting alone in my car, having no idea what I was gonna do, and weeks went by where I just racked my brain trying to figure out what I was going to do. The thought of killing my parents never once crossed my mind, unfortunately I did think about doing that to myself, that’s how distraught I was. Eventually, with the help of my aunt and uncle, I came clean to my parents and told them everything that had been going on. It was such a relief that I no longer had to live that lie. They honestly were only angry with me because I had lied to them, if I told the truth, they would’ve helped me find a solution much sooner. I voluntarily went to a rehab facility for 28 days and was able to get things back on track, and now our relationship is better than ever. I learned it’s always better to stand on the ground and tell the truth, rather than climb a tree to tell a lie. So I don’t know what Chandler thought was gonna happen if he had just told his parents the truth. I’d imagine they would’ve done anything they could to help him, from what I’ve heard, they seemed like loving parents. That’s why this case was so gut wrenching. It was completely senseless, Chandler’s situation could’ve been fixed through some hard work and patience, but he chose a much more evil and cowardly solution, one which cannot be fixed. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison.
@@johnselwitz5362 💙
He put SO much work into keeping the lies going that he could've actually gone to school and done something productive with this life.
that is true.. it's to bad
If he was a better student than he is a liar. And a human for that matter. But I do guestion if there was a sibling rivalry emotions that may have helped contribute to this young mans mental stability?. When the dad said " the man on the phone sounded a lot like Chandler" how well did he know his own son.?
@therealz360z7just because he wasnt gonna be as successful as his dad or brother doesn’t mean they didn’t love him and he couldn’t do something productive. His mom worked at a car dealership it’s not like she was a rocket surgeon.
this is the point that always sticks with me. this video didn't really go much into the actual effort he put into his lies... if you watch other videos on this case, you'll find out he put a TITANIC amount of work into pretending to be in college and employed... so much so that it's a wonder he didn't do as Kimmycagle4096 suggested and just... get a real job
If his father wouldn’t have been push, push, pushing and prying every day, he would not have had to lie.
His dad's phonecall to his college is really heartbreaking, poor man.
and Chandler in court as he listens to it. omg.
Right? Broke my heart. You could hear the disappointment and embarrassment in his voice.
Broke my heart....
"Im ready when you are" man that really sucks.
How did he record the phone call??
My heart goes out to his brother. Losing his whole family in one fell swoop.
I was thinking, all that insurance cash is going to be ashes in that poor guy's mouth. Just pure sh*t.
And his girlfriend poor kid, she supported the scumbag and thought they were going to have a nice life in Florida. Her loving mum and partner now have to live on their farm where he disposed of his parents’ remains. The dude is sick as.
@@staybent9380 the fact she said that nothing seemed weird or off about him in the days where he was dismembering his family is so cold and scary.
@@HumanHamCube she probably wanted that trust fund too
@@HumanHamCube I think he was probably always kind of distant and detached in their relationship so his behavior probably didn't seem too unusual to her.. he seems a little off to begin with imo
If he had come clean and told his parents he was depressed and lost and had no desire to work and no interests and needed help. His parents would have helped him. His Dad was not going to throw him away. They loved him
Lol you probably haven't met many narcissists/psychopaths
Yeah narcissists, sociopaths and the bunch live in a delusion they will protect at all costs. They will also do w.e necessary to avoid taking responsibility. Scary bunch with absolutely zero empathy or compassion. He most likely even felt like the victim of his own actions as bizarre as that sounds to you or I.
I think he was waiting for an excuse, so he could cash in on the life insurance.
Exactly. That’s what I don’t get about all these people we are seeing, mainly guys but some girls have done this, who kill their parents rather than say, “I flunked out of school and haven’t had tv guts to tell you. I need help.” Even if they’ve been getting the money and had been living off that like Chandler clearly did for a while, as did that girl in Ohio who beat her mom with a cast iron skillet and stabbed her 31 times in the neck 💔. Just admit it. They love you. They won’t be doing anything drastic. It’s insane these murderous reactions!!
@@olderwiser64NOT *all* parents would be that understanding. Just saying.
14:47 Detective: ''How you doing?
Chandler: "Not good.''
Detective: "Good, good.''
😅
Caught that too! LOL
Rekt
😅
This is what happens when your small talk is on autopilot 😅
Even I felt worse about myself after his response.
The most heartbreaking thing is that Mitchell, a good human, a good son, has had his good parents taken from him. He didn't deserve any of this, like his parents. I hope he has a good network of love & support around him for the rest of his life ❤️
Would it help if Mike and Mitch did a sarcastic "life insurance dance"?
I feel for him too ..but how did he know so much detail about the life insurance? If he was the executor of estate I get it, but that part disturbed me.
@@stubbs-letterpress I'm sure his parents told both kids about their last will/testament/insurance/etc. My mom let me know where to find documents, what goes to my sister & myself, life insurance, blah blah blah. It's pretty common.
And his remaining family member is the one who took his parents lives. Just cant imagine how he feels
Absolutely
He told so many people he was getting a degree...and he did. First Degree × 2. He has the personality of wallpaper paste. Watching him act like he had a brain injury in his interrogation was the cringiest thing.
Next thing you know he’ll be telling the other inmates “I have 2 degrees”
At least wallpaper paste is good for something.
You know what's the craziest thing to me is that his life ended up the way it was NOT due to mental illness, drug addiction, trauma, abuse, or any legitimate reason whatsoever.
His life ended up the way it did out of sheer LAZYNESS.
It was fear not lazyness.
Reminds me exactly of my 40 year old ex. He was technically homeless when we broke up last year, living out of his van, because of incompetence and laziness Had no debilitating mental illness or drug addiction.
@@didndido3638Fear of getting a freaking job and getting off his lazy azz?? Gtfoh with excuses for this grown man, please 😒
@@didndido3638It absolutely was laziness and shame maybe, but not fear. Unless he’s scared of job applications lol. His parents were so up his ass he could’ve worked at a casey’s for the rest of his life and they’d be happy. But he was a lazy narcissist. He wanted all of the praise without any of the work.
Pathetically impressive in a strange way.
(My deepest fear is Microsoft spreadsheets)
I feel bad for the brother. He lost both his parents and knowing the brother he was so close to was responsible? That's world shattering.
His life is messed up forever, how do you trust when it’s your own family who killed your parents?!
@@shepherdboy9692 money isn't everything
@@nycgirltee facts
@@shepherdboy9692 That is a disturbing thought. Money won't heal the lifelong wounds, just take away 5% of the resulting worries. At best.
But that's just evidence of no evidence. It says as much as it doesn't say, acording to the defense attorney who seems to be giving him grounds for an appeal based on complete and total incompetence. Or maybe the defense was having a stroke as she stood for her turn. She is watching this and thinking "what the hell was I saying, oh well he is a pos so no worries".
"It's better to have your parents a little disappointed in you than chopping them up with a frigging handsaw". Words of wisdom Mike.
That almost sounds like a Churchill quote. 😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@marthaalexander4441 Indeed. 👍
👊😄👍
Better to let your psycho kid live a lie than for them to eat you a little bit at a time.
This made me laugh so hard my husband looked at all crazy 🤣
I dropped my phone from laughing when you were listing Chandler's prospects and said..."and he had a unicorn". Little extras like that are what make your storytelling so great.
I can't wait to hear it😂
Touche is an acknowledgment of a good point at one's expense. I don't believe you can say "little touches like that" and be correct. Just fyi.
@@dillonhillierThx for pointing that out; its fixed.
I caught that, too! 😅😅
Humor is such an important coping mechanism, shining light up against the darkness. Mike is very, very good at this.
@AnthonyQuinnJr You edited your comment because of a douche? Lol
I understood what you meant and it was fine.
I’m thankful to see this case. I was also like Chandler in lying to my parents to maintain the image of a college student but was actually out of school for a year. I got up and worked for readmission and decided to change my major. I’m going to school atm and hope to make the most of it.
Keep going, it'll definitely pay off. Rely on your support system when you need to.
Honestly this situation is super common. I also failed at college the first time and I was scared to tell my parents. I ended up moving away, clear across the country. After a few years, when I was more mature, I went back to college and finished my degree. If every young adult in this situation murdered their parents, there would be a national killing spree. Like Mike said, he could have done literally ANYTHING else.
6 months later, I hope you're ding well in school.
I hope things are going well for you. Whether or not you're still in school: it's not for everyone, and that's ok. It doesn't have to be. Great things can come from a degree, and great things can come from choosing a trade, or passion. Success can come from so many different avenues. It just takes decision and moving forward; one day at a time. Best of luck!
And thank you for not murdering your parents. 😉
Unleash the beast, Marvin. The voices are calling you Marvin, you know you want the blood.
Even the thought of lying that much is enough to give me an anxiety attack; I couldn’t imagine living it for years and expecting it all to work out
That’s what we like to call being a good, decent human being. Lol.
That's exactly what I had pointed out in my comments, too. Living in a life-wide set of lies and deception just makes me feel like I would absolutely crumble and collapse and have my life be nothing but a constant panic attack. I have had problems with PAs for much of my life because of my poor health, so adding lies and deception to that would just do me in.
@@n00dles79 it's got nothing to do with decency, people don't always lie for bad reasons but maybe because they got themselves into something that overwhelmed them and it went so deep they found no other way. I found myself in a similiar situation not long ago but it was cause I was in early stages of my depression which I didn't know then and a few days of not being able to get up and being absent turned into over a year. I felt too ashamed to show up in university and I felt so guilty and ashamed I couldn't bring myself to disappoint my dad admitting I lied to him so much. Everyday I went out in the morning and came back in the evening, sitting my ass flat in the library or just driving around until I deemed it late enough to go back home. You're anxious and on edge every day, you don't sleep anymore. It's like backing yourself into a corner and you hate that you're lying but you don't wanna disappoint the people you love so you keep on lying and it's a toxic cycle and I felt absolutely helpless. Original commenter is right, it is highly anxiety inducing, I started to have suicidal thoughts at one point to finally make the torture I was subjecting myself to stop and to spare myself disappointing my parents with the truth. I think this is less about lying but rather what you do with your lies. I was found out but didn't murder my parents and that's where I guess where one can speak about having decency cause no decent person murders their parents for lying to them. Usually people would want to flee by hurting themselves, yet chandler chose to kill his parents and it makes me think he was just a massive asshole.
Right? Honestly I would be freaking the hell out. I haven't always done the right thing in my life, but I've never been a big liar.
My mom would straight up ask me if I was high when I was a teenager and I would just go "yep. It helps me deal with school and anxiety" and she just went "oh, well don't get arrested" lmao
Seriously. I think every adult has experienced lying about certain things they're ashamed of. I've run into old friends when I was between jobs, and when they'd ask where I was working, I would just tell them my last place of employment. It can be embarrassing to tell someone you're currently unemployed, especially if you're just catching up.
But I wouldn't lie to my SO, family, or close friends about that... Because holy shit is that a lot of effort. What's the point?
Can't imagine how a parent must feel knowing before they die that it's the child they have raised,loved,and protected their whole life! So horribly sad!
In most cases these cowards don't even show them ...they are dead before they know what's happening. Grant Amato, same thing. Most none of these people know. Horrible, yet probably better to not know.
This case I see many similarities to Grant Amato. Their whole story of their life, their futures ...built on lies. Grant was living his life the same way and it would not last forever..
@b1_1nnies ahhhh wait. If someone shoots you in the back of the head like Amato's mother; I'm gonna have to beg to differ. Gurgle Gurgle. *Gasp* and dead. Depends on what kinda firepower you're shooting with. If it's . 22 you might even live. But they were shooting with large caliber. Some ppl really do cut your head off so fast you see yourself if decapitated. As someone that almost died myself; I can attest to the body just so badly wanting to hang on it's nearly pathetic. And extremely painful. Some ppl just go out quicker
@@codybarry8204 how'd you almost die
@@codybarry8204 OK, that's enough true crime for you. Time to get another interest!
@The Mudpit thanks for telling me when's enough. Putz. Too bad you ain't man enough to handle true crime.
this guy was 24...this is insane.
At 24 you have a lot of time to "reconstruct" you life. You can easly deal with the truth WITH the help of your parents and
brother .I'm shocked that he thought his only way out was to kill them.
Since his Dad knew he had been lied to for years after talking to Omar Jobe and his reaction to that was to calmly text Chas saying so, should have shown him that it wasn't the end of the world and that he wasn't the type of person or Dad that blew his top off but rather the opposite, one who would have listened and helped his son. Chas after killing his Dad text his mom asking her to pick him up a soda on her way home, knowing that he was going to kill her after her going out of her way and doing one last chore for him, that is chilling.
Make sure you tell your family you love them and not to chop you up if they get mad
That’s what my son said. “All that subterfuge and a double murder instead of telling his folks he wanted a gap year!?”
One of the most disturbing parts of this case (for me) was him asking his mother to buy him soda on her way home before he ambushed and murdered her. What a pathetic joke of a human being…
Technically he didn’t ask. He commanded “get pop”
“Evidence of one thing is not necessarily evidence of another thing.” That’s some good lawyering right there.
Weeeellllllllllll, they knew that he was guilty as h_ll, but couldn't say that as his lawyer. They did the best they could with a client they knew was guilty as sin. What else are they going to say?
They really phoned it in, for sure
I think they honestly didn't want to defend him. The cops didn't even wanna interrogate him.
I've always wondered what is a defense lawyer supposed to do if every piece of evidence proves the client is guilty?
@@jokuihmehyyppa Yes since we are born with rights, we still have to have a defence attorney. Now, does that attorney have to actually do a good job for you? Absolutely not
the "that should do it, then" from the dad was heartbreaking. it was the moment he realized he had all the proof he needed that his son was a charlatan.
The text message “I’m ready when you are” is what gets me,,,
Ugh I know....😳💔
@@JD-qx7ty yes that as well
And to shoot your own father in the back....
A Chandlerton
Oh my god the part where he is talking to the neighbor about the security footage sent chills down my spine…he obviously wasn’t doing it to know the whereabouts of his parents….he trying to see if he got got caught doing anything
Chandler says he's not doing well, and the cop says "Good good"...pure gold.
Instead of killing his innocent parents, Chandler could have manned up, cleaned up his act, redeemed himself and got it together. This was fixable and Chandler's parents would have forgiven him and eventually forgotten.
So often in these stories you just think why? but I suppose to a certain type of person it's a logical solution to their issue- whereas it wouldn't even occur to the majority of people- and in every case its the stupidest and worse course of action you could possibly take.
He could have easily cleaned up his act, got qualifications, got a good job and moved on with his life. As it is his life is over. And his brother doesn't have a family any more. Heartbreaking.
He thought he’d have it easy living off of the insurance money. Btw I love that Mike teased us with the insurance music rather than the full-on insurance dance 🕺 - hysterical!!
I will forgive alot.
Word. We’re all capable of f’d up actions in life. Even immensely. But these tragedies spring from individuals who have no conscience and are high on levels of psychopathy and narcissism. That’s what separates…
I just realised that it most likely would’ve ended differently if the dad/family had just called him into the kitchen and told him they knew, wanted some kind of resolution…rather than set up that meeting backing him into a corner. But I understand wanting the satisfaction of seeing the POS squirm. Hindsight is always 20/20.
I feel bad for the brother- Mitchell. Lost his entire family in one fell swoop, and for what? Because his brother was a pathological liar who couldn't face the shame of the truth? Mike said it... wouldn't it have just been easier actually go to college? Even if it wasn't for some fancy space degree or whatever fibs he was telling. I'm sure his parents would have been happy as long as he was doing SOMETHING.
Yeah or even just to have gotten a job somewhere. Anywhere. They certainly didn’t seem like the type of parents that would judge him. My God he was still living with them at 26 years old and they hadn’t kicked him out yet so I think they could handle him taking a customer service job or some entry-level work
@@amazingsupergirl7125 he was actually 23
@@hsindera irrelevant. The lazy entitled POS attempted to take the easy way out and cash in...however what he DIDNT count on was that his overall stupidity and lack of basic common sense that immediately came back to screw him over lmao. He deserves a firing squad. However I rarely say this but ya know what...I think his ignorance of realizing how good he had it living at home, not working, mooching off the fam...is going to be just the absolute PERFECT internal torture when he's in prison with no money now, nothing to do, knows no one, if he wasn't motivated before good God he has nothing to be motivated for now 😂
Big jump from lying to murder and dismemberment.. psychopath plain and simple. Sadly they didn't have an inkling what he was capable of.
I guess his brother gets the house and everything now! Including the $1million life insurance, or does he have to share that with his brother?
The neighbors must've been terrified to learn how close they were standing next to the murderer. Yikes.
Especially the ones who were alone when he came by, and they let him into their homes.
Just think about his gf too...
They smelled it
imagine what goes thru your head when you realize what “that smell” turned out to be…
Getting rid of two adult bodies is so much more work than moving out and just getting a job, not to mention the insane amount of concealment... A lot of young people are stuck at home these days, life has gotten harder but not hard enough to cut up your parents...
Mike is right, the defense was not existent. not even a failed attempted at insanity
I dont blame video games for violence but chez definitely fried his brain with it..
I am always so freaked out when people cut up their victims. It is especially sickening to imagine having that kind of physical contact with one's parents. 🤮
Listening to Barts call with the admin office is heartbreaking. He sounds so polite and legitimately concerned for his kid, not like an angry dad that just busted his kid lying. Chandler was lucky to have parents supporting him. It’s sad that some kids just grow up and turn out to be losers as adults.
He was probably like "Why is this kid who has jobs that he wakes up early for still asking us for food and money all the time and depending on us." I can say one thing, trying to maintain a lie of not having a job is hard as heck enough to maintain, been there, done that, adding curricular acheivements onto that as well.. Heck no. I regret ever being such a depressed turd that I'd ever lie to my family about that. Thankfully, getting better mentally, relationship has started building trust up again. Would never jeopardize that again.
@@vtwinbreed well atleast you know that now. Go in HYPER WINNER MODE.
You could be looser but not a killer man.
To kill his parents he must be a psychopath. The parents likely knew something was very wrong with him, but wanted him to grow up.
The lack of emotion is a telltale of psychopathy.
The video game generation of psychopaths have even less social interaction, so are even less able to hide their nature.
@@redelfshotthefood8213 Yes and they dont watch CSI ......what a bunch of losers , . I left my parents home when i was 16 ., and made it all the way to the top .
No chance his dad ever thought his son would kill him. Maybe he thought he’d kick the kid out of the house or disown him, but not have to end up being killed by him. So sad.
I don't think any father ever has thoughts like that and even never should have. That's horrible.
This is way beyond a serial killer killing random people. Killing your own father is hatrid, that built up through out the years, that just turned into pure evil with absolutely no emotion whatsoever.
Very sad for the parents 🥺
@@robertasliutas2903 Pretty fucked up to minimize people getting killed randomly. I personally think it's much worse than getting killed by someone you know. People choose to have children; they don't choose to be abducted/raped/tortured/murdered.
@@amityislandchum The comments he made didnt minimize anything. He simply compared it to random killings. When you choose to kill blood relatives or close friends it is much more of an emotional involvement than random killings. That is simply the point this person was making.
His father telling him "I'm ready whenever you are" broke my heart.
The prosecutor's speech was amazing. He sounded genuinely affected and determined. "I have to do this right." Wow.
it's true, but i'm also amazed at Halderson's gall letting this go to trial. The state had a slam-dunk case (because Halderson is an idiot, who uses their indoor fireplace in Wisconsin in July?)
Halderson tried to be absent at his own sentencing after he was found guilty though. He's not really connected to reality.
🤣🤣detective- " hey chandler, how are you doing today?"
Chandler- "not good"
Detective- "good,good." 🤣🤣
Him going and scoping out where security cameras may have caught him is SO creepy. This is a wild case!
Yes! That weird little wave he did on the one ladies porch gave me the creeps!! Notice how she immediately walked out to the street? I think she got strange vibes from him and was afraid he'd push her inside an force his way in or something along those lines. She was smart to start speaking louder and walk to the driveway. Her camera caught so much, and you know she looked at it before the police took it.
Indeed
He didn't do it because camera might have caught him, he did it because he wanted to look like he was looking for answers. Same way he lied to make him self look good is the same thing he was attempting to make him self look like concerned son.
@@MarkoLomovic yeah the guy is used to lying. But still, it was dumb AF
I was like “Did the Chris Watts thing just come out on Netflix?”
Also odd that this is the second case I’ve seen of someone killing the parents they were lying to about being successful. So weird.
It's incredible... he was more afraid of enduring shame from his family and friends over the epiphany of his fake persona than brutally murdering the two people who loved him most in this world, being revealed to the world as a murderer, and going to prison for life.
Either that, or he thought: "everyone is sure to believe this kidnapping lie after my last set of lies held up so well!"
the worst thing being that his family still will have stuck up with him even after the deception of his lies...
Killed those who loved him the most, that is extremly disturbing
Its crazy instead of facing his shame and keeping everyone living!!! He thought it was better idea to kill to keep his shame a secret…smdh he’s a real loser! No job but some how got a gf and a car…parents gave him more than he deserved!
I'm going to guess he thought he would get away with it. He believed he could lie well enough. I think that is fairly common among people who commit premeditated murder. In his mind he would be able to burn his parents remains in the fireplace and they would disappear. Truth is you can forge steel at the temps the crematorium operates at.
I also think his motivation was the life insurance. If his brother would have been around he would have killed him too. more money. Not so much the shame, though I am sure that was a factor.
when children murder their parents i feel like there is some major underlying issues within the family itself so its hard to completely blame them for being a product of their enviroment
Side note: in movies you always see murderers hide the body in multiple areas, but that would seemingly just up your chances of getting discovered with each new location lol
It’s just so unbelievable he held his mothers decapitated head in his hands and still thought he shouldn’t be in jail
I live adjacent to the halderson house. As I'm typing this, looking out my window, there must be 200 people milling around, taking photos and generally sensationalising a truly heartbreaking event. Bart and I were bridge partners at the village centre every Friday. Wonderful guy, great small business accountant.
May they both rest in peace.
Sorry for your loss, Chris. 🙏
My heart goes out to Mitchell, all the family and the friends
Thanks, Chris Low. Comments like yours add another layer to how terrible and heartbreaking this is. I hope the swarms of looky-lous move on soon.
~yes, jst like others on here...sorry for ur loss..!~u probably hve many fond memories...~& if u evr see Mitchell...let him all knw we grieve w him...& wnt him to stay strong....!!~tht we pray for him to find peace of mind....~!
~& may God bless u both...!!🙏😇
Chandler: "Oh no my parents just caught me in a lie and everyone will soon know I'm a loser"
Also Chandler: "I bet if I murder them and then lie about their murders, no one will ever find out the truth. I'm an excellent liar after all."
Yeah, it's always the same story... And then they top it off with a plead of "not guilty"... Classic.
He should’ve stayed in school to learn that that wouldn’t have been the best choice! 🙄
Irony takes 0 time off
Maybe he should have gotten a job and moved out of the house.
@@sunshinesweetlove..8066 Indeed. Obviously for this psychopath slob, that was a bridge too far. If he'd put one tenth of the effort he'd summoned up to slaughter his family into study or work...
It wasn't just that he was afraid of disappointing his parents, he was planning to continue to lie to his girlfriend, Kat. He most likely was also thinking about the 1 million dollars life insurance money that he got to split with his brother. With that money, he could start his new life with his girlfriend, even if he didn't have a degree or a job. As long as he had money, his girlfriend wouldn't know he didn't really have a job and frankly probably wouldn't care. The last thing he cared about was what his parents thought. He only cared how the lies would catch up with him and how he could lose everything including his girlfriend. Nature vs nurture - in this case definitely nature!
My brain simply cannot imagine how a person could murder and cut up the two people that gave you life! The people that fed you, bathed you, bought you birthday presents, tucked you in at in night with a kiss on the forehead….I just can’t see how anyone’s brain could go to that place 💔
You need to read up on sociopaths ans psychopaths, they don't have all of the emotions that make us human... fascinating and scary.
yes, this is extremely heart breaking 😔
And the woman that literally just stopped & got him soda on her way home :/
Her text response "k i can" always hits me hard.
Hey I get it in some cases of horrible abusive parents but his parents were nothing but loving and supportive, that I don't get ?
@@andysalter7192 Maybe, but you never know how kids are treated behind closed doors.
“They won’t take the vape in the jail” has to be the most 21st century shit a cop has ever said 😂. Great video as always.
Haha they rekt him
But they will substitute an 'R" for the "V" in that word when that boy gets to the jail.
@@darrelchovanec9150 Hopefully!
@@darrelchovanec9150 You mean prison. Jail is where people with small sentences or who are awaiting trial are held.
That neighbor showing him her surveillance gave me chills. I was scared for her, he just finished butchering his parents.
jeez louise, so gruesome and cruel and cold hearted...i cannot undersrand how anyone could do this to anyone let alone their parents💔
Same, especially when he was moving around checking the cameras angle. I suspect she also got bad vibes from the guy.
Kool for Kats !
Truly terrifying!
Thought the same thing. I was like “why is she opening the door?!??! He’s a monster!!!”
His lawyer had me 😂 That had to be a skit
“Hi chandler, how ya doin?”
“Not good.”
“Good, good.” The shade of it all! 😂
I watched this entire case and the ONLY time Chandler stopped scribbling and lazily playing with his pen was when they played the audio of Bart calling the college. His hands clenched with pen pointed out toward the stand. I hope it genuinely pained him to listen to.
How can someone with such loving parents (look into Krista’s last texts where she tells Chandler the simple act of WAVING her off to work “made her day”) do this. What was SO unfixable? It’s such a shame.
I think what pained him most was his lies being so publicly exposed. He cares about no one but himself.
I know..I am a mother and when that came out I felt that in my 💥💔 heart. What a cold blooded psychopath.
I'm pretty sure the part that's so unfixable is Chandler.
He's a piece of work, he didn't bet on the neighbor calling the police and security cameras.
@@jeanmariechopin5080 I would say much more of a sociopath than a psychopath but ya he sucks.
The life insurance electro pop playing low volume as his brother takes the stand 🤣💀
I was amazed when he pleaded not guilty, but I was even more amazed when one of his defense team said; "we don't know if was an accident." ACCIDENT!?!?!
Well he could have tripped and fell and the gun went off and killed both his parents, and then he may have tripped a few more times and accidentally severed their limbs. When he dumped their body parts he could have been sleep walking.
Just kidding. 🙄🤣
Like the Virginia lady who killed her mom & sister. And tried to claim her sister shot _herself._ On the top of her own skull. With a _hunting rifle._
I'm the CBS -Madison reporter shown about 8 mins in. I appreciate how you used the local media reports to tell the story. A couple of interesting tidbits of extra details, since no one asked for them:
-Chandler was so open to talking with us, and did the three separate interviews over the course of a half hour with local media.
-His only request was that he not be shown on camera, but was okay with being recorded - hence why you hear his recorded voice but don't see him in our reports
-Police had reason to suspect him as a killer at the time we talked to him. Dane Co Sheriff's Office wasn't taking interviews at the time, which is bizarre considering it was a missing person's report (they'd usually talk to us in order to get the word out about the people who are missing). But essentially, PD suspected something was up at the time but we all went there and talked to him anyways. I myself was alone when we talked. It was just me and him at his front door. He was arrested that night.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't somewhat disappointed we didn't hear from Chandler during the trial. Oh well. Either way, it's an interview I'll never forget. Thanks for giving this story some shine. Well done.
No one cares
Kewl
Thank you for the information
About you,
Damn that’s weird.
The defense made me laugh. The worst meaningless word salad in court I’ve ever heard. Also, cases where entitled kids kill their parents make my blood boil. Those of us who grew up without parents would love to have had parents like he did.
Exactly. It is sad
How do you defend the inexcusable most vile humans on the planet? How would you do it if it was your job? I'd do what she did and just talk nonsense and say yeah let him fry
No offense, but I would prefer living without parents than with those who may have too high toxic expectations. We don't know what their family life was like.
@@Jabarri74 We can't have a society without a defense of criminals. They have to do the best job defending they can, or the killer can easily walk. Or someone innocent can go to jail. There was just nothing for this defense to do in this case. But they always have to do the best with what they have, to ensure a fair trial that murderers can't wriggle out of, and good defense attorneys know that, that's how they do their job. We should be thankful to even have them.
@@maschaorsomething That's not offensive, it's a little sociopathic, though. You might want to seek some therapy or evaluation because it's not a normal thought pattern.
I think it's significant that when Chandler mentions the cabin he doesn't say, "My family has a cabin up north" he always says it's his "parents' cabin". I can't think of anyone else I have ever heard made that sort of distinction but as he was weaving his tale of lies to the media, he said, "My parents have a cabin". That immediately set off red flags for me because to me that just proves how removed he felt from his parents. Another example is when he mentioned that his father (stupidly) probably reached into the fireplace and cut his arm and he doesn't say, "My father" did that or "My dad" did that. He said, "That guy" did that. I can't imagine referring to my father as "that guy". Also, when the reporter asked him, "How are you getting through this?" if that had been MY parents, I would have said something like, "Well, it's very difficult but I'm just trying to make it through one day at a time and I'm hoping for the best." Our boy Chandler thought that was the time when he should explain that some neighbors had brought him pizza. It seems to me that Chandler has a heart that is ten sizes too small! I'm glad he is where he is and that he will be there for the rest of his life.
Another interesting thing of note was during his police interrogation he kept referring to the family home as "my house". 👀
Why wouldn’t he inquire who the people were that his parents were traveling with? Of course we know there was no trip at all, but it just makes his dumb alibi that much more illogical.
he had been lying to his girlfriends mother that his parents were awful to him to the point that she disliked them even though she had never met them. He was trying to prime her to allow him to move in so he could continue not paying rent.
You shouldn’t judge people bc they talk different than you esp if it’s small things like that ..
@stancexpunks hmm I think the OP had some valid and good points. Showed disconnection and self centeredness. Those are signs in these kind of situations, if you need to look at the smallest abnormalities to explain what happened in a bizarre investigation.
I come back to this video every once in a while because it really rouses up a fear in me. I have an older brother who has violent tendencies bubbling up, who lies all the time, is delusional, extremely selfish, has substance abuse issues (including cocaine), and who feels that my parents robbed him of the success I have found for myself. This is my worst nightmare come true, and if this ever happens to my family... I don't know how I could prevent it. I had to move out of the house to get away from the fighting.
You doing ok?
@@golddustwoman4993 yes, thank you kind concerned stranger 🙂
Oof. I understand you needing to move out but I sure hope you check in with them ?
Maybe you can convince them that not kicking your brother to the curb :
Enables him
Puts them in danger
Is ultimately selfish because they are prioritizing their own feelings (not wanting to feel guilty or worry about him being on the streets) over giving him the kick in the ass he needs to finally launch into life
I agree...
Are you safe...
Do you have someone to turn to in both a personal and professional capacity...
I hope so...
Stay safe...
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Impétueuse
Really one of those cases where I wish I knew what the Defense attorney was thinking, probably something like, "Idiot won't plead guilty, so now I get to make myself look like a moron in a high profile case, still better than family law."
Man everything is better than family law
Those two (defense) ''lawyers'' looked and sounded ridiculous.
@@22ergie yep, I would have 'fired' them and requested a new lawyer if they were representing me in court. Glad that's who represented this POS though.
@@LWIcarus69 My thoughts exactly. But you know he will appeal under "ineffective counsel", and he wouldn't be wrong!
@@LWIcarus69 Now he can claim upon his appeal (and we know he will), "ineffective Counsel." Understatement of the decade by the way.
Honestly, this guy worked harder at killing his parents then he did at anything in his life. Given his track record I would have expected him to have just left the bodies where he shot them because he couldn't be bothered to lift a finger to do anything else.
I laughed so loud at one point I scared my dog. Thanks, Mike, for all you do.
I believe that title is reserved for joel guy jr
I would
🤣🤣🤣 you’re right
@@yungcris5211 can u imagine having either of them as bunk mates.. eeesh one eye open at all times
@@yungcris5211 Joel Michael Guy Jr was the laziest parent killer I've ever seen...........
He pleaded "not guilty"....he had to get one more lie in.🤦🏾♀️
Good one!
Prosecution attorney is just BRILLIANT!
I have listened to his famous opening two times entirely! Great speech really.
Officer: “Hey Chandler how are you doing?”
Chandler: “Not good..”
Officer: “good, good!” 👍
😂😂😂😂
This got me too😂
Typical police
I just typed this comment out too I gotta go delete it now I finally found this xD
That's the American Midwest, perfectly encapsulated.
came here for this comment 🤣
You know you’re totally effed when you walk into a police interrogation and it goes like this: Detective- hey Chandler, how you doing? Chandler - not good. Detective - good, good. The police have their suspect and they know it.
I remember catching that when they played it at trial 😂😂
The detective was on a mission
His defense attorneys clearly took his case as a joke. As they should.
The attorney HAS to take the case. They are court appointed. Every attorney has to be on the list to serve pro bono when their "time to serve" is called. Well, not EVERY attorney. However, everyone is entitled to a defense, and when you can't afford one, an attorney is appointed to you...from that list of attorneys the Judge has.
@@vondahartsock-oneil3343 You may have missed the point but no biggie
His defense lawyer reminded me of Jennifer Coolidge doing her best Elle Woods impression 🫢
Why the detectives never ask the suspect. How did you ever think you would get away with this?? It surprises me every time
The creepiest thing from the trial is to hear Kat's parents describe Chandler's behavior when he got into the pool with them the day he dumped his parents, got in with his clothes on and made a "washing motion" over his arms while he was in the water, but never actually swam. Got in the pool with his girlfriends parents to wash the dirt and blood off his body from dumping his dads remains
@therealz360z7 He may have had a very small amount that only he could see.
Absolutely yes that was messed up 🤦♂️
@therealz360z7obviously not what they're saying here. It's creepy that he felt comfortable enough after doing what he did to casually act like nothing was off.
I had a friend who did this exact same thing except without the murder.
He lied about going to college for almost two years, had a entire scam set up where he cashed tuition checks from his dad.
Haven't thought about that in years. Scary to see someone so like him
Yeah I know. I have a brother that has done this ... without the murders TG! It’s a slippery slope and unfortunately it continues on and the lies mount up in every aspect of their lives. Such a shame - he’s broke any communication with all of his family - haven’t heard from him in 10 years. Possibly shame but none of us are sure. This is a very sad case when lies go this far. His poor brother.
@@helenpreisig6617 hopefully you can find forgiveness someday n reunite. **hugs and prayers
@@appleunicorn2927 if she wants to. I think people put too much value on forgiveness.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. I was thinking that too. She can instead move on happily with a chosen family, friends who deserve her.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. yea if you keep “forgiving” people they will just walk all over you.Nothing wrong with cutting garbage people out of your life
As a parent myself, there is nothing my kids (who are all 3 adults now) could do that would make me hate them… we could work thru it. I tell them this all the time and I hope and pray they never feel alone bc we are always here for them ❤
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I feel awful for the brother. He lost his entire family.
wow, the woman is so happy about explaining to him that they probably capture everything well, the alleged bart's and krista's friends in the car. but then she realized how disappointed he sounded. ugh even i had goosebumps...
Time stamp?
I know, poor girl! She turned every lock when she went inside.
i liked how he was looking where the cameras were
@@skarletrose1 10:20
"You don't know if it was an accident." Lady, no one accidentally dismembers two bodies, then accidentally disposes of them in two separate locations. We absolutely know it wasn't an accident.
That is argumentative, disputative, irrelevant , aggravating and irrelevant for my client
You never accidentally dismember yourself and your torso lands in a woods somewhere far away from your home?
To be fair the death itself could have been an accident( obviously not for two people though as in this case) but once you cover it up it automatically should be considered murder at that point, imo.
Robert Durst shot his neighbor and dismembered the body. Dumped the body in the ocean where pieces floated and were later found on the beach. He was arrested. Bailed out and fled. Was on the run for months. Eventually was found and went to trial. He claimed self defense. Jury found him not guilty. Also he was likely a serial killer. Probably killed 6 to 12 people in his lifetime.
Ikr she was just talking to hear herself speak.🙄
I just got done watching the entire trial on YT the other day and I gotta say, it was the the first trial I've watched that I didn't skip any of the witnesses. The judge was simply delightful, the prosecutor was precise, polite and the best part is that the defense didn't object every question. In fact , the defense didn't do much of anything.
@JoLo
Which channel did you watch it on? I'd like to watch it, too, but don't want to choose the wrong channel and end up with some weird-ass commentary or something throughout.
Law&Crime, as seen in the corner of the trial video
Came back to watch this again as I've been listening to the trial. Just an absolutely horrific case. And Chandler had so many people in his corner. He traumatized all of them. I hope they can all find peace after this, it's just incomprehensible how evil his acts were. He is where he belongs now.
The prosecutor’s opening statement is definitely worth listening to. One of the best I’ve ever heard.
True. Even the Judge listened with rapt attention.
Agreed, just finished watching it. That was quite a story, with so much evidence it's no wonder the defense team were so useless. They had nothing to fight against. It was an air-tight case against that disgusting loser.
Oooh I'm gonna have to find that.
Compared to the defense which was hot garbanzo beans.
29:42 I too had goosebumps when I heard the prosecutor's statement. Very very powerfull. Preach brother preach!
I feel really bad for his brother. Just after being diagnosed with a disease that can easily ruin your life (I've been type 1 since I was a child, 38 years ago), he loses his entire family. I can't even imagine.
My mum is type 1, it really is an underrepresented condition.
@@petitmeowmeow It's seriousness really is. People have the attitude of "Just do your shots and you'll be fine." As you know, if only it were that easy. Between type 1 and type 2, type 1 only accounts for 1% of diabetics. It really is like a different disease.
So many complications arise from it. For instance, I have to get eye injections every six weeks to keep my eyesight. And I've always taken it very seriously.
@@Pantheragem yeah my mum had to get monthly injections in her eyeball to save her sight. Thankfully the treatment worked but its looking like she's going to need it again. She is 60 so it's all catching up. It's so different to type 2 it baffles me how they're still so associated with each other
Also has to forever deal with people’s suspicions that he must have had some knowledge/culpability. After all the brothers were close and he had just as much to gain. Being the only survivor in a tragedy like this is rough.
Will be 27 years for me in April, and I feel especially bad for the brother as well. I couldn't imagine having to deal with losing my family in the worst way possible on top of being newly diagnosed at his age. Not to mention the hospital bills and co-pays for meds and testing supplies that probably haven't even fully hit yet. Even if T1D doesn't ruin your life, the increased cost of surviving will.
“I’m really feeling good about SpaceX.” Chandler Halderson
Haha "is there a warrant for my house.?"...."should there be.?" 😆 LOL
Getting murdered by your child must be one of the worse things,someone you trust and raised with love from the bottom of your heart,then complete betrayal and then being murdered in cold blood by that person mustve been horrible
they wouldn't know about it, that is left to us.
I have two small children and watching them grow is such a gift. I cannot fathom them becoming adults that could do such a thing.
It happens,
Look at the columbine kids parents. They don't feel like they did anything wrong. Except neglect their kids and raise them to be social outcasts.
@@angelaadams1858 I can and I stay away from them.
@@bikecontroller3268 pretty sure they would be aware of who murdered them
"Did you actually see Chandler kill his parents with your own eyes? No? Well then that's the evidence you should really be thinking about."
Oof, how embarrassing it must've been to be his defense.
I mean this has worked in trials before (eg Lana Clarkson first trial), it only takes really pedantic juror
Some lawyers deserve to be murdered.
@@dredgewalker why?
@@teafoster5643 I get that lawyers need to give their client a chance for a faur trial but makung up lies to let him walk away with his crime is just way too scummy. How many criminals have have gotten away with murder due to these types of scummy lawyers?
@@dredgewalker Defence attornies protect the rights of everyone
The “word vomit” defense was unintentionally hilarious 😂
Making a web of lies appears harmless at first, even fun. But being caught in one is complete misery. You don't know what to do to get out of it, until you realize it is by telling the truth, no matter how unpalatable it is.
"It's better to have your parents to be a little bit disappointed in you than chopping them up with a freakin hand saw"
Words to live by
"He faked his injury to get out of a job that didn't exist."
*George Costanza in 'Seinfeld' would be proud*
"I feel like my old self again. Totally inadequate, completely insecure, paranoid, neurotic. It's a pleasure."
I think even George would consider that too great a transgression.
Was that wrong?
Wasn't there an episode where George pretended to have a twitch in his arm or leg and developed an actual one?
@@CB-lt2vb Yup, he hits his elbow after leaving the doctor.
"Do you know if it was an awful accident?"
What a tragic accident to be shot, butchered, attempted to be burned, and the remains scattered in different areas. What an accident
"is there a search warrant for my house?"
tell us you're guilty without telling us you're guilty
Prosecution:
-*Presents clear evidence*
-*Questions a long line of credible witnesses*
-*Clearly shows in statements how it all connects with Chandler and his motive*
Defense:
"...AINT NO RULE THAT SAYS A DOG CANT PLAY BASKETBALL"
😂😂😂👍
Telling the truth about things like this makes life so much easier. Lying is less beneficial than simply telling someone you are struggling with school or a career. I can't believe that even needs to be said.
Sometimes fear of other's judgment (esp. your parents) can be paralyzing.
They should put “The neighbors got me pizza” on his tombstone. 10:10
Mr.Ballen just dropped this story 8/27/22. You scooped him by 7 months. Awesome job. Appreciate your diligence.
You did a better job too. And I love Mr. B. But I give credit where credit is due. Thanks for your work.
Boy oh boy that defense lawyer really gave off “need to meet a minimum word count on a book report about a book we’ve never even heard of” vibes
I ain't gonna lie to you, she had no choice.🤣 idk why they didn't make him take a plea.
Imagine simping for a killer just to get laid.
@@BalboaBaggins lol that's not what's happening. the public defender psychology is that by trying their best, guilty people can justifiably be put away and innocent ones can be saved. without her trying to help him getting away with murder, he can't justifiably be convicted of murder. it has nothing to do with simping or getting laid.
@@BalboaBaggins also, you know public defenders almost uniformly earn under a 100 grand a year right? nobody is doing that work for models and bottles.
When he talked to the police he screwed his own defense. Also I watched some of this trial live and I suspect his girlfriend had a hand in this.
This story is so crazy to me because I had a friend who did almost the exact same thing. He dropped out of college, and lied about it, and he kept lying for 8 years, until he had his "PhD." When his girlfriend of 6 years started demanding he show her his degree, and kept getting suspicious of him not attending graduation, it all came crumbling down. He had to tell the truth to her and his whole family. It destroyed his life, he lost most of his friends, but at least he didn't end anyone.
At least that guy was man enough to face the consequences, this Chandler guy was coward af
At the end of the day he can say he wasn’t a killer and try to rebuild his life. It won’t be easy but sure beats prison
If he want's a PhD, he can get help and still get one. If he no longer wants a PhD, so many people have led incredibly fulfilling lives and had very rewarding careers without one. I hope he has someone in his life that can help him to come to terms with whatever he decided. We are the wardens of the mental prisons we lock ourselves in. I went through a situation where I tied my identity to my success in grad school and went thru a period of depression when my success wasn't commensurate with the amount of work I was putting in. Fortunately, I had some mentors and was able to work out why I felt the way I did.
The prosecution said it best about Chandler: Instead of fessing up to it...like a "coward", he just shot his dad in the back, and then killed his mother. Wow.
yeah like 99% of all americans who have no phd.
At 31:35 there's that oh-so-subtle-sound of Mike's "Life Insurance" music playing. It's normally seen with Mike flexing & dancing away. 💃🕺
It’s the fact they told him his parents were murdered & he had no emotion at all . They should have known he was the person . Then him wanting to see what’s on the security cameras is another red flag 🚩.
It never ceases to amaze the way lying liars seem to land on the decision to kill those they've been lying to, just so that they don't find out about all the lies.
especially liars like him that have all the opportunities in the world that others dream of having
News Reporter: “Chandler, your parents are missing…how are you getting through?”
Chandler: “The neighbours got me pizza”
Reporter: understandable, have a great day
So strange, right? What a bastard.
Damn!
He misunderstood the question. The reporter obviously meant emotionally. He only thinks about him and the only reason he'd be missing them is to get shit and food for him and that's how he answered.
@@erinc9391 lt was the perfect answer from him.
11:30 dang he knew his cameras didn't he?
Defendant Lawyers is like;
“Just imagine he is innocent, just don’t listen to the prosecutors, all facts means no facts, aliens could have done it, you know Pablo 😂”
For me the most disturbing part of this case was seeing the security footage from his neighbor of the fire blazing all night. It was pixels, but knowing what was happening and seeing the whole window light up made me feel sick
That and when his brother was on the stand revealing the future intentions Chandler had for him. Mike's statement is absolutely correct, Chandler is the worst of the worst.
@@NevaUndaPressure very similar to Grant Amato, top tier losers
It was very eerie
They said it smelled like someone was having a “pig roast”.
I can’t fool my parents but I’m sure I can fool an entire department of detectives.
This boy is brilliant!
lolol
He almost got away with it too if it wasn’t for his girlfriend. Thank god RIP
It's not over until the FAT LADY sings !
@@joshb.4404 those remains would have been found sooner or later, theres no way he would have gotten away with it.
@@Nightknight1992 idk the weather over time can destroy evidence but what was found in the barrel yeah that's not going anywhere
I don't understand why he revisited where he dumped the body and evidence that was foolish
This story breaks my heart, the sadness in the dad's voice.
Rest in peace to them both and condolences to the families and friends 🌷
Mike called it!
Chandler Halderson was sentenced to life without parole in March.
Prosecution: "He's guilty"
Defence: "Is he, though?"
Prosecution: "Yes"
Defence: "Oh, ok..."
Lol 😂 I was thinking that too. Like if if we’re going off opening statements alone, Ide be upset with my lawyers coming out with that weak sauce
Holeeee crappppp. I see what you mean about that defence.
"We aren't going to try to explain ANYTHING (because we cant), but we ARE going to say that kalla-ma-zoola-mitchi-kaboola-bibbity-bibbity-boo....put it together and what have you got?....Chandler didn't dood it!"
Well, they didn't have much to work with
Of course the laziest loser on the planet had the laziest defense. 🤣
The defense didn't have a leg to stand on. Kind of reminded me of Sarah Palin talking for 50 minutes and saying absolutely nothing
That pause from the father in the phone call. That speaks volumes. He realised that his son had lied and was heartbroken.
its so clear he had big suspicions and still wanted to believe in his son but couldn't anymore. heartbreaking.
for someone who was going to be working at spaceX, he sure didn't understand how technology like gps and the internet works.
"Hey Chandler how you doing?"
"Not Good"
"Good, Good..."
😂
I will NEVER understand how anyone could DISMEMBER another human being! I just can’t wrap my head around it at all. Especially the dismemberment of someone who you had love for. But then again are psychopaths actually capable of loving anyone? Brutal murder and dismemberment are the acts only a psychopath could follow through with. Poor Mitchell. The guy lost his whole family, heart breaking 💔
That part never ceases to horrify me...decapitation...dismembering...what goes on in someone's head while doing something so unimaginable...horrific
Dude. Like I try to picture stuff like that all the time. Can you imagine sawing through someone's neck and having to pick up their head?? Ughhhhh like no. I just can't. These ppl are truly sick.
@@CrustyUgg I get that sick and psychopaths whatever. I need more answers then that. Do they throw up? Do they have a physical response to it? I think they don't answer this because they even know enough to protect themselves.
That's because you're a normal person with empathy. Only psychopaths can imagine such things.
Dismembering a dead body pales in comparison to taking someone's life.