✅ Band Locking!? T-Mobile Home Internet - 5G n41 vs n71 - Waveform 4x4 MIMO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2022
- Need faster upload speed? Need to force the gateway to a different band like n71? T-Mobile 5G Home Internet has no setting to force a specific cellular band but here's a trick I learned to force my gateway off of n41 and onto n71 which has slower download but much faster upload speed for me. Speeds will vary greatly based on your exact location and local cellular situation.
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Just purchased and installed the 4X4 MIMO antenna and didn't have any change in speed at 1st. I had 25-35mbps download, i switched the frequency setting from 2.5ghz to 5ghz in the app and got 60mbps, then tried switching the 1st and 4th antenna wires and now im at 100-120mbps.
Thanks Nate!
Good job hashing through the details to find the speed!
No. Fuck nate, thankYOU! He never shuts the fuck up and give the info needed! He just drones on and on and on. All i wanna know is how to lock band n41, thats it! A 30 second video could show this but YT is saturated with his 20 minute videos that should be 4 minutes long.
Thank you! I can't wait to do this because I am having so many "pauses". Now I understand why.
This was a great help. I remained on n41 but it switched from B2 to B66. This took uploads from 3 to 4 up to 17 to 20. Thanks you!
Glad it helped!
Waiting on my TMobile gateway. They said 3-6 week wait. It has been 3 weeks now. I already use 4g LTE and get anywhere from 5-35 download with 1-4 upload and I am about 6 miles from my cell tower. On my phone I can get 2 bars of 5g so I finally talked TMobile into letting me try it out. I have one 2x Mimo antenna with a MoFi modem and another Elsys antenna. So 2 sim cards and the Elsys seems to be more steady. But overall I have internet. Your videos have helped me a ton. Thank you. I hope the 2x Mimo antenna will work for me when my gateway arrives. I hope the 5g ext band will be better than my current 4g LTE speeds.
Yes the 5G ext should be faster! Sounds like you have a few options either way though.
You better contact T-mobile and ask what's going on. I ordered 2 units for 2 clients at different addresses last week, and it took each one 2 days to get their's.
3 weeks? You're better off just going down to the T-Mobile shop. That's what I did. Had it home and set up the same day
I will call them today and see what they say. Thank you all for the information. I thought that was a long wait time.
Bro just go to a store and get one
I just started testing this with a 2x2 setup and am getting consistent N71 and uploads in the 60 range … about to to add a 2nd 2x2 next week … this is great news for upload issues 👍👍👍
Proxicast cellular antennas are the best. I know a guy that has two connected to his gateway and his getting over 900 Mbps Down and the upload speed is really high too
@@comixof2morrow How do you know theyre better than waveform
@@nathancasey7712 I've seen a guy use several different ones, including Waveform, and Proxicast was the best. Waveform is not bad though. Actually, if I remember correctly, it's probably very close to the same quality. Two 2x2 Proxicast Cellular Antennas are better than a 4x4... just fyi. It's due to placement options. With the Proxicasts,the individual was getting over 900 Mbps Download and Upload speed's were in the hundreds. I believe Waveform was pulling in around 600 Mbps....Now, the one that pulled in around 600(I am pretty sure was from Waveform) was a 4x4 and not two 2x2's....The Proxicast Antennas he used were 2x2's and due to having more options for placement with two 2x2's he was able to get ultra speeds.
@@comixof2morrow I see
Thank you so much. I have a different 4x4 mimo external antenna, and I found the documentation on what horizontal polarisation cables are + and -. Based on your info, I'm going to swap two of the connections and see if that will eliminate my current problem of being locked to B12 only.
Awesome, let us know
@@NaterTater I don't think he will ever return to let us know :/
You can also lock onto the n71 band by adding low pass filters. I added the Mini-Circuits VLF-1700+ Low Pass Filters and immediately locked on to the n71 band. The downside is that the Gateway can never connect to n41band again as long as they are in place. FYI, even though the B66 band is kind of on the edge of the band pass of these filters I still receive B66 just fine.
I’m going to try this Scott. Hooked up the antenna in our bedroom to do some initial testing. Best speeds were with n71. 15 up and 125 down. Went into the attic (right outside the bedroom walls) and now I can’t get off n41. The signal quality is so good it won’t drop it and now I’m sitting at 5 up and 30 down.
@@sean1hannavictory has defeated you
I wish there was a way to select the channel in SW, to test it. I don't need or intend to add external antenna
I've been on 5g the whole time , the truck I do is unplug your network cables and leave it off for 5 min then power on without network cables and 5g comes back , 4g is ok but 5g I use for gaming is real fast , Nate plz find a way to force 5 g I no it's a firmware issue that I no some one will crack it ... And plz share when you do TMobile all ready taking our money for 5g speeds so at least find a way to keep it on 5g
Is there any way to do this with the Waveform 2x2? Or any reason to hope it might be possible?
I'm in a rural area and right at the edge of the N71 band. When I reboot my gateway, it always defaults to that band, but inevitably goes back to B71 which is significantly worse. I have to reboot it every time I want a few minutes of decent Internet.
Thanks!
Hey Nate, thanks for you helpful videos around T-Mo Home Internet. Currently have 2 - 2x2 antennas and just ordered the 4x4. I have the trash can and was wondering if I have to choose specific ports like you showed on the Arcadian? Do you have any recommendations? On the Waveform website I found the below review: "I had everything I need to put up the antenna. The one thing missing was instructions on which antenna ports to hook the T-Mobile Nokia gateway antenna ports to. Internal to the gateway the ports are in pairs but didn't know if it mattered where to hook up to the antenna." Seems like it does matter?
Hey, with the 4x4 I would just do L1,L2, L3, L4 from the Nokia to 1,2,3,4 (left to right) from the antenna. It doesn't fully spell it out here but this is the WF instruction sheet: www.waveform.com/a/b/guides/hotspots/t-mobile-5g-gateway#installing-external-antennas-to-the-t-mobile-5g-internet-gateway
Hey Nate, thanks for the videos. I'm having issues with very slow download speeds. 3 and below. Does anyone have a booster that will support the n71 band? That is about the only band I can get consistently. I have the Nokia from tmobile
Great content Nate, have a nice 4th.
Thanks! Happy 4th to you.
I've noticed this too. While download speeds suffer on N71, uploads are awesome. I went from 2 to 3 upload to between 20 and 30. My downloads are always 40 MBS too. While N41 doubles my download speeds it makes my up link speeds drop significantly.
Thanks for confirming your experience too!
N41 I get 400-600 mb/s download and 100 mb/s upload with Nokia unit and external antennas from a tower about 0.6 miles from me. I use only 2 external antennas.
Using a Highboost cell amp, there are 4 bands being boosted. User can turn on/off the individual bands to boost. I found I could lock on to the best band by not boosting the slower speed band. Net result I boosted the signal of the faster upload band and the gateway stays on that band. Turn off the booster and gateway falls back to the slower band. I found the booster has the most effect on upload speed with the outside antenna delivering a focused signal back to the tower. Download speed got a less noticeable boost. Best part is I didn’t need to dig into the gateway. Booster gives cell phone signal a boost as an added bonus.
I tested a HiBoost cell booster and it did improve speeds but an external antenna was faster th-cam.com/video/bboYE4qcfDM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this awesome video, I definitely need to explore this soon.
I recently dropped my ISP in favor of this device and noticed this oddity of N41's poor performance. For some context, the ping stays about the same (50 ms) between N41 and N71, but N41 download and upload speeds are in the dirt at 25Mbps and 7Mbps respectively.
I don't place my router in a windowsill anymore. I lock that thing in a closet.
In my case, this usually forces it to N71. My speed gains are nearly tenfold, with download and upload at 200Mbps+ and 80Mbps respectively.
Yes its not common but some folks are in your situation. Normally n41 is much faster atleast for download. But just depends on the signal and tower congestion. Glad you found a way to get good performance. Doing this trick and putting the gateway by the window might further improve your speed.
Also recently switched, speeds were horrible and after a bit of searching around found out it was because i was connecting to b12, after sticking the router in my laundry room inside of a box, it connected to b71 and now the speeds are much better, got scammed though since we only have one tower here im suck with 20mbps down and 7mbps up, the nearest 5g tower has only connected once and when it did the download speed was a staggering 0.6mbps.
Thank you for this video. I have a question I was hoping you could answer. I have TMSBI and a Cradlepoint. I want to hook this same Waveform 4x4 panel onto it. Waveform recommends it in 4-3-2-1 order. If I wanted to isolate to N71 band, do I then do it in the order 1-3-2-4?
You could certainly try that but it may act differently with cradlepoint.
When I use my router stand-alone I get n41 but with a low rsrp and sinr. I plugged in my waveform 4x4 in the order M M1 M2 D and now it only picks up n71. I want to use only n41 so is there away to avoid picking up n71?
Could this work without an external antenna on the Arcadian itself using it's internal antennas?
I have been on B66 N41 pretty much the whole time I’ve used my current setup, but recently moved to B2 N41. The thing is, either way, I have had great speeds for both download and upload, but my ping just isn’t good at all. I am thinking of getting a Waveform, but am unsure if it will make the difference I am hoping for. Any recommendation on which choice I should make? Thanks Nate for all your wonderful content, you have been such a help!
Hey Gabe, thanks for watching! I have seen a ping improvement with better signal metrics and namely when I move the gateway or external antenna outdoors. I saw a ping improvement with both the 2x2 and 4x4 waveforms, the cost seems high at first but then I consider the cost I am saving every month vs my old ISP and that I am over 10x faster speeds so the antenna easily pays for itself in several months. Maybe you saw some of my recent antenna tests showing this: Waveform Cellular Antennas for T-Mobile Home Internet: th-cam.com/play/PL8d9FovK2dNS1HuMabIm8hspYa7nlXpPP.html
Gabe, I'm on Tmobile 5g home internet too and was experiencing a lot of jitter and massive ping jumps in online games. I downloaded TCPOptimizer and clicked the "Optimum" option on the bottom when you load the program up, and everything was fixed. Maybe give that a try.
@@NaterTater Thank you for your help, Nate! I am definitely considering the 4x4 to get the most for my money. I live in a pretty rural area up on a ridge and I am almost certain we are the only users on my tower haha. My speeds are FAR better than my other ISP at 25 down and 2-3 up at best and it costs 3 times as much as T-Mobile. I am going to make the investment next month most likely and will definitely be using your videos for help setting it all up! Many thanks!
@@TheBuzzati I tried that previously and did not see too much difference sadly, but I really appreciate your reply and recommendation, I still may try optimizing it a bit further, if possible, for T-Mobile. I also am running a Eero as the router for my use case as it is the only one, we have here, and honestly, the only one we want haha so I am unsure if that may be causing any trouble, but from what I've read online, most people have the same setup without issue, so I will just stick to it and keep looking to get the most out of this service!
@@gabemcilwain2382 Gotcha. Hope it sorts itself out or an antennae will help you. I think a lot of people have success with them when it comes to lowering ping.
I'm trying a different approach. I keep getting booted to N71. In my area it's slow downloads. As slow as 15 and high as 50. Upload is always 30 or above. I have 2 2x2 antennas outside my house. I'm installing high pass filters to block the N71 signal, so it will stay on N41. I'll update after I get a chance to test. I saw a user on TMobile forum tried this and it worked.
It works but n41 will likely be slow, let us know
Did this work? I'm having the same problem, just put up the 4x4 MIMO yesterday. I don't get the speeds people on here are talking, but it is super fast for my experience with the satellite Internet. I'm getting 20's to 50's on downloads with about 50% of that on uploads with the B2 4G LTE. But it randomly picks up the N71 5G and I drop to the single digits on both downloads and uploads. It is completely random. My current method to get it off the 5G is rebooting the Arcadayan to attempt it to force back to B2.
My Arcadyan is on b66 and n41 and I'm getting 90 down/70 up speeds. I've only had it for about a month. What is interesting is that during the first couple of weeks, I was getting close to 400 down/50 up speeds. This was with a Netgear router attached which slowed the speed by about 25%. I guess that once the 15 day trial period is over, T-mo ramps down the speeds for its Home Internet service in my area. I get much faster down/up speeds on my 5G phone now (also using T-Mobile for my cell phone).
same! after 5 or 6 days, its at a crawl.
Nah had it for a little over a month now. When I first got it I was getting about 90 download. I just tested it last night and I was getting 390 download and like 30 upload
Although I have the Nokia
And just a little while ago it was getting 430 download
@@iamsean92 over 2 months and im getting 5 mpbs max up or down, i started getting over 300 mpbs when i first got it for months, last week it changed
Was thinking in an older video you mentioned the Nokia used 5G for download and 4G for upload. Perhaps I misunderstood? That seems pretty consistent with what I experience, or maybe just coincidence. I get ~500mb down and ~90mb up on average on n41. When I find my 5G signal has switched to n71 randomly, my download is around 50mb, but upload remains constant around 90mb. Is the original thought of 5G down and 4G up correct, or am I missing something?
You are correct I said that and thats true for the older 5G bands like n71. n41 still requires a 4G anchor but the way it breaks up data packets is different and t-mobile actively prioritizes download over upload on n41.
Hey Nate, im getting my 2nd 2x2 today, what would you say that the best n41 wiring would be, I plan on setting them side by side toward my best signal for a super antenna lol... But I'll have to play around with placement. I'm mostly concerned with latency and consistency
I would treat it like a 4x4 configuration th-cam.com/video/_TUEWAaaG-E/w-d-xo.html
Nice useful trick! Thx!
Glad you liked it!
So with the SageCom T-Mobile new router. If I want to lock it to say N41 as when I pick up the N71 my performance it pretty horrible. Being that the sagecome connectors are labeled differently how would I switch the antennas on a 4x4 waveform
Hey Nate I noticed on the app you can now choose between 5ghz and 2.4 GHz. If you create an additional network it seems. I haven't tried it. But I never noticed that before unless I am mistaken.
I have the Nokia by the way
@@iamsean92 good find. They added that a month or so ago with a app update. Lets you modify/add/delete wifi networks. But still doesnt let you disable wifi on the Arcadyan.
Some in-line band pass filters work well for getting rid of N71.
Well they help get rid of all signals...lol. Even the band pass ones have significant loss across the board that typically leave users with a slower speed from what I have heard.
Hay Nate! Another interesting video. Wondering if ,now, your leaning to the Acadian router vs the Nokia. Still running the Nokia with the same issue of having to reboot every few weeks. Presently it switched to B66 N41 and can't get it to go back to B2 N41 which seemed a little faster. Presently getting around 180mbps down from over 200mbps with B2 N41. These speeds are without an external antenna. Anthony
Hey Anthony, I still prefer the Nokia! But its hooked us as part of my dual WAN so its easier for me to keep messing with the Arcadyan. Your speeds are still great! Bummer on the reboot but sounds like its manageable.
D. M1. M2. M
Blocks n41 getting faster uploads on n71
D m m1 m2 is ur normal setup, faster dowloads, as it uses n41
Love it
Yes and just to be clear the M, M1, M2, D is the recommend setup to try out first.
@@NaterTater thanks, that explains how u just switched 2 leads
@nater tater
What I don't understand is my cell phone operating on TMobile 5g gets consistent 240 to 380 mbps down and 30 to 50 up in the center of my house. But the TMobile modem on a good day only has about 100 to 200 mbps sitting upstairs next to outer window pointing at the tower it recommends.
th-cam.com/video/_8IYKKc911M/w-d-xo.html
If you want to lock N71 get a Waveform 2x2 and lock D and M?
I like this as I'm 'barely' at the edge of N41, and I pick it up sometimes but since I'm like 4-5 miles from a tower, the latency is way higher, like almost double and I prefer to get N71 as I want the lower latency for gaming.
I did this testing with the 4x4. I'm not sure if we can make it work with the 2x2.
Sweet
This is a neat hack
Right now, I have a T-Mobile internet gateway set up at my Vermont house. It receives an n71 + b66 signal, but due to almost 0 congestion, I get between 350-400 down and 80-100 up. Not even using an external panel!
How many bars of signal do you have?
Just talked to TM tech about external antennas for 5g band. He said that none are available yet (FCC issue) and to just focus on 1900 mhz. I don't know why a broader spectrum 698-2700 wouldn't work since n41 uses 2500 mhz I think, but I didn't want to argue because he was adamant about this. You said M & M1 are n41; which are the 4g ones? I have 2- 1710-2700 mhz yagis 17dbi gain and I'm wondering which antenna ports to use for those. I don't want to compromise the 5g I get out of the box by connecting a 4g-only antenna to the 5g port. BTW I'm 10 miles from the tower.
the external antennas certainly work for 5G. The TM tech must be confused. Perhaps he is referring to mmWave 5G.
@@NaterTater I finally realized he was probably referring to boosters, not the antennas themselves since he thought I was going to route the antenna to a booster. I didn't want to put it on the record that I was going to disassemble the gateway.
Can you do band locking with KVD21 without an external antenna if you already have good signal? Just do it internally in the KVD21? No need for expensive antenna..... IDK ?
Not that I know of
I was getting 260 plus download and 40 upload until they shut the tower down for a day or 2 now I'm down to 80 down what you think they did to make me lose that much speed
I have a newer T-Mobile gateway. I also have Eero routers in a mesh environment. I get dropouts and loss of connection periodically on my wifi network. any thoughts? I am looking at a Asus ET8 or ET12 change -- but not sure if that will fix the issue?
What did you end up doing? I just used the internal wifi and mine worked much better
@@0my I find that the T-Mobile towers are the issue -- not my hardware or setup. Towers can be flaky and then be great -- then go down once per month for hours -- but most often are slow based on time of day or amount of users on tower... Then ok again. I actually have 2 T-Mobile boxes shard by 3 buildings. I just ordered Starlink yesterday for one building to see which is better.
Ive had this for 3 months now and I recently hooked up an external antenna outside and this thing still gets crap reception. Its only good after 3 am till 6 am. Thats when I get the speed promised by the 5G. Im only 3.5 miles from the tower. level ground here.
would it be possible to have 2 T mobil devices for $100 a month service
and band them together through a router like MIMO
or something to double your speeds? i have an older Dual PCI LAN card for a desktop
i use to use many years ago that put my computer on steroids ???
Sorta. You can do dual WAN but it does not provide 2x faster speed, it provides 2x more throughput. So a single device say downloading a large file would see the same speed. But two devices both downloading at the same time would be 2x faster than single WAN.
@@NaterTater TY for the reply Sir I
Enjoy your channel
What’s the waveform preferred setting again
Hey Nate! Quick question.
Could bad LTE metrics be interfering with my 5G latency?
I get about 40ms Ping, 330 Down, 40 UP.
Here are my metrics:
[5G]
RSRQ: -11
RSRP: -92
SINR: 40
Band: N41
[LTE]
CQI: 12
RSSI: -76
RSRQ -10
RSRP: -102
SINR: - 0
BAND: b66
Yes, my main concern with your 4G is the 0 SINR. Need it up at 10 or better for the best performance. Gateway placement or external antennas should help
@@NaterTater Could be adjusting the polarity to refuse the signal help?
@xXTGameplayBadgerXx no, you need a 4G LTE anchor for 5G NSA. 3RD party gateways support 5G SA that don't need 4G LTE.
@@NaterTater Gotcha. Thank you for the help!
So this video in a nut shell is setting preferred band of 71. So if you prefer N41 use the Waveform preferred connection. Correct?
Yes
@@NaterTater My 71 is 6MB. If I wish to avoid flip flop and only grab N41, what would you suggest?
@@GlenHyden if you have a waveform 2x2 then use M and M1 ports.
@@NaterTater waveform 4x4
I get up to 400-500 mbps the lower 200 mbps on T-Mobile 5G with no booster or antenna, I guess I’m close to a T-Mobile antenna I’m very happy that I have good speed in my area
Any idea how to get off Band71... I keep connecting to it and since it’s low frequency I can’t expect fast speeds.
I have the G4SE gateway, how do I lock it in n41 with the waveform 4x4?
You cant. Need a 3rd party router.
@@NaterTater thank you
is there a way to lock N41 using an asus router without dealing with antennas ? my arcadyan modem alternates to n71 all the time
No
Can you lock onto the N71 band somehow to try to keep yourself connected to 5G for a long period of time? I'm wondering because a family member has T-Mobile Home Internet and is all of a sudden getting good speeds with 5G on the n71 band (when previously they could only get a 4G signal, which was much slower/barely usable). We both think this may be because of the trees in the yard loosing their leaves (they have multiple large trees near their house). I'd like to find a way to keep their internet running like it is right now, consistently throughout the year, not just in the fall/winter when the leaves have fallen etc. Again, I'm not sure that is exactly what caused it to become faster/better, but the two did seem to happen around the same time. I want it to be able to work for them like it is now throughout the whole year, not just part of it.
An external antenna mounted outside would help.
@@NaterTater Would a cellular booster be beneficial to help with this too? I don't really like the idea of having to open the gateway to install an external antenna. I've been trying to find a decent cellular booster on Amazon for around 150-200 dollars. There doesn't seem to be that many of them. But, I did see a nice looking omnidirectional one for about $158. Most are closer to 500-1000 dollars, which is more than we are both willing to spend on something to try to help it do better. Mainly because we don't know for sure if it will actually be of any help or not (in that certain location).
How did you get your Advanced Cellular metrics to show BandW on app I have the latest update and it doesn't show this? And on 5g mine doesn't show the TAC line.
they updated it I believe (removed it)
I've got the Nokia with a Waveform 4x4 on Tmobile. I am getting decent speeds, but I'm on B66 and N71. Is there a way to get B2 and N41 with my setup?
well the first question is do you have n41 signal at your location? th-cam.com/video/m5z9fsoYqKQ/w-d-xo.html
@@NaterTater so, interesting. I do. Somehow I drifted over to b2 and n41 at 2:00am in the morning without doing anything. Speeds are amazing. 342 down and 15 up. I did not change a thing with my setup and all of a sudden I am on the prime bands. Just need to figure out how to stay there. I did see that there is kvd21on amazon for $89
@Paul Byers i would not get a kvd21. Its the slowest.
have 3 bars, on N71 and on speed test i am getting 320 down and 20 up, is this right, new 5688W, everthing runs good
nice! great speeds
So if you want to upload a video or anything fast switch to band N71
Should I stay with T-Mobile $50 or go back to Verizon 1g internet $95 🤔. I'm lagging playing ps5
My 5G band is N41, SNR 29, RSRP -77, RSRQ 1, 407Mbps/73/41 pings. This is a little slower than normal as I get 5 bars.
Show off!
Hey Nate, is there a way to lock the b12 band for 4G LTE?
Unfortunately no
I don't like it as a home replacement because of strict NAT type on Xbox and not being able to open up ports for port forwarding I should say. I do wish gamers that do use it would bring this up to T-Mobile because having a strict NAT type is not good for gaming neither is a moderate net type and Xbox recommends having an open that type and you can not do this unfortunately with the T-Mobile internet so if T-Mobile expects people to switch this may be something now even PS5 will have this same issue so it's not a good replacement as far as a ISP
Very valid point and many people dont game so it works well for them. Others use a VPN to get open NAT type. Either way let t-mobile know your concerns.
@@NaterTater Ho would you talk to about it. I assume the department that you buy the devices from.
@@jasonmarshall4436 yea just call customer support
we only get 1 bar sometimes 3 and we have it facing the closest tower and high up in a window and still bad speeds sometimes we get 270mbps download and 5-10upload but our main speeds our 15-50 download fluctuates hard both sides 2-15
sounds like it might be band and or tower hopping on you. Have you monitored the signal metrics to see if there is a change when the speed changes?
Why is it shifting you to the Cleveland server instead of Detroit?
Speedtest typically picks the server with the fastest ping. The way cellular networks work means you might not exit the cell network close to home. So you might appear to be closer to other servers due to that.
How is the internal antenna compared to these?
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I have the waveform antennas, the two directional. My download is 80+ after midnight and 50 up. After about noon I slow to 50 down 50 up and then after around 6 in the evening I'm down to about 1or 2 down and still 50 up. I would think it was traffic but my download on my phone is a consistent 20. I have The antennas on a pole with a rotator and i hve moved the one degree at a time 360 degrees several times and pointing at the tower i can see has always been best. The phone and internet are both t-mobile. Any ideas?
TMHI is deprioritized and will slow down when the tower is busy. It namely affects download. Many cell phone plans are not deprioritized and always get fast speed.
@@NaterTater is that something I need to speak to t-mobile about? I'm on the $50 plan.
@@dalechambers4787 TMHI is always deprioritized. You can buy hotspots with "premium" data for much more $ especially if you need hundreds of GB/mo.
Most people care more about Download Speeds because that what watching Streamed Videos and Internet Surfing is for, Up Load Speeds are less popular and more for hosting gaming or a video upload server. Download speeds are almost always much faster than upload speeds.
When my Gateway connects to Band 71 I get less than 40 Mbps download speeds. I don't care about upload speeds because I don't host Forte nite tournaments or stream TH-cam Videos for others to watch, I mostly watch TH-cam videos and use Streaming Services on my Roku. If it's possible get near Cable Internet Download Speeds for $25 I'll do that.
Right Now at 3:20 EST on Wed Jan 4 I'm getting from 10 Mbps to a one time Max of 27 Mbps but at least average above 10Mbps. I'd much rather have much faster Download speeds than Upload Speeds.
I'm wondering if anyone can use this to get off of 71 and hook to 41? I don't have the antennas but only able to see band 71 is why I'm curious.
Nice video.
Have you confirmed if your area has n41 signal? If it does you might just need an external antenna outside to pick it up.
@@NaterTater no sir I've no idea if it's even available.
How can I find that out, if band 41 is in my area?
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Is it better to use just the 5g and turn off 2.4g or better to use both?
This trick applies to 4G LTE and 5G cellular signal. Not to be confused with 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz wifi signals. You'll want 2.4Ghz wifi to be active.
I use a 4g lte cellspot. It interferes with my tower. Thus swapping 4g lte bands. I have 3 bars 5g. So whenever the lte cellspot is on it overpowers the 5g. I only need that for phone calls, it runs through my spectrum account. For some reason the tmo home net isn't reliable for all my phones for wifi calling
Cell spots cannot be used at the same location as TMHI.
I sent it back. I was on the home Lite. So I was able to use both.
How do you get it on N71 from n41?
Unfortunately I'm probably gonna have to do this. I'm less then a mile from the tower I'm connected to. Device has full signal. Been stuck on n71 for 3 months. Been calling and complaining. First they said tower. Second they said my device. Third...... we are supplying unlimited 5g in your area..... called BS on it and the beck peddled and ended up Paying for 2 months of my bill and telling me there is a new issues they have just been informed of. I'm lucky to get 20down but I get 80-100 upload. It's frustrating.
Oh i am use nighthawk mesh6 router with 2 satellites.
I didn't read all of the comments but I'm guessing no one has addressed simply removing the n71 antenna's from the unit altogether. No n71 antenna's, no more ability to grab the n71 signal. That way you don't want to go out and buy an expensive antenna.
There are no n71 antennas. The antennas are shared across multiple frequencies and MIMO utilizes all 4 of them for best performance.
@@NaterTater Well I took the gateway apart just like your excellent video showed without it voiding warranty. I disconnected the "M" antenna and now I get only n41. We're homeless in the woods with solar. We were getting very erratic download speeds and >5mbs most of the day. Now we're averaging over 50mbs all day. I couldn't have figured it out without your video. Note: If you disconnect both the "M" and "D" antenna's, it doesn't get a workable signal at all. Didn't have to spend $200 for a directional antenna.
@@skipvj glad that worked out for you!
Sir my ping is usually 70+can I get help to reduce it just bought a Ethernet cat 6 haven’t done anything yet here is my Info right now
LTE
CQI :12
RSSI :-93
RSRQ: 10
RSRP:-106
SINR:12
BAND:B66
5G
RSRQ:-1
RSRP-97
SINR:23
BAND N41
I HAVE T-MOBILE HOME INTERNET ONLY LIVE ABOUT 1 mile away from the tower I just want low ping they said it would be around 21-40 with my strong location
Hi Nate, I recently found your videos because I am interested in getting T-Mobile internet when it is available. My cable company, Charter, cut my speed down to 15mbps but don't know why since I have been a good paying customer for over 45 years. Also the signal drops for a few seconds on a daily basis. There is nothing else available in Ash Township (about 50 miles from Mlfrd) except ATT but that is slower than 15mbps. Since you have T-Mobile I am hoping it will be coming my way soon. There are so many people in my township that don't have internet service. Charter sometimes runs commercials as to how they are soooo good at helping in underserved areas. Of course that is BS! I am wondering if you could recommend a good VPN that is easy to work with and would also be compatible with T-Mobile hoping that will be available soon. I watched your video of your grounds and also pushing snow. Beautiful! Love and Light to you and your family.
I had a power outage the other day and now I’m stuck on N71 and all I do is lag on my PS5. How can I get it back on N41?
tower might have lost n41 in the power outage. did you try rebooting your gateway?
My gateway only shows 1 band. Should there be 2. I live in a rural community. I think it is b71.
the 2nd band would be if you had a 5G signal. Sounds like you only have 4G LTE.
Can you take your sim out of your Arcadyan and place in another Arcadyan or Trash can?
Yes but you might have to call t-mobile to update the IMEI for it to work.
@@NaterTater Thankyou!
I still don't know how to change the band frequencies Play somebody give me some instructions. Thank you
What if you just didn't connect D and M2's antenna cables?
I would get download but effectively no upload
Need a way to control this via gateway software…
That'd be ideal!
During the trial period I was get 50-100 mbs download. Right after that ended I'm only get 0.3-5 mbs download. It's a waste of money. They do this to hook ya then they screw ya. We have seen way to many say the same thing
With the Chester device, you can prevent them from throttling you. Example: using Visible (Verizon network, unlimited for $25/monthly), you enable TTL, and configure it for 88, now you're not throttled, if there's 50Mbps down, you get it all, they don't cap it at 5.
Proxicast cellular antennas are really good and been giving folks superb performance
I got it after seeing your videos, but T-Mobile sucks, it slow down to near 0 every morning, I have to call T-Mobile to speed it up, T-Mobile try to make all excuse there's something wrong on my side, and nothing changed on my side at all.
I'm sorry but comments like this just make no sense. I understand it can be slower for some people. But saying it's at zero and doesn't work at all and is useless just doesn't sound right. They would not have even given you the device if it wasn't available in your area
I used to get 200 down 100 up. Now I get 100 down, 50 up or so.
When my son finds a good band he uses a Smart proxy he claims it gets locked in longer.
I used to get b66 but now only get b2 idk y
You likely still have b66 available, the gateway just has odd ways of selecting the preferred band. You can try moving the unit and seeing what bands/speed you get.
I’m on b71 it sucks bad
Another creative way for a waveform commercial . Brilliant. Peter needs to come up with new ways to do a commercial and pretend it’s groundbreaking information.
It works with any 4x4 external antenna. I get a small commission if you use my 5% discount link but Waveform isn't sponsoring this video or channel. I like supporting them just as much as I like helping all the t-mobile home internet users and viewers! Simply a good product, even better support and they dive into details on these niche markets.
God I hate that Peter guy.. useless videos he keeps releasing that are ALL SPONSORED but never mentions on his videos so he always "recommend" the product he's shelling
@@tolust go check his latest video trying to sell that junk 5G modem . People think they will just be able to walk in to T-Mobile and get an unlimited sim and put in that thing the way he’s talking . Getting tired of all the snake oil sales pitches involving these T-Mobile salesman. It’s not T-Mobile it’s the TH-camrs that sell snake oil .
@@marlboromatt5656 ohh i know, that video did it for me. I unsubscribe from his channel and FYI that 5G modem is on Aliexpress for $250 ! He's "selling sorry reviewing" it for $500 via amazon. As you said all of his videos are "groundbreaking" but he offers nothing on " how to " like Nate Tater.
Wth that speed is a joke I gξt 600down 100up
OMFG I DONT CARE!!! Get to the point already!!
Which point would you like?
This waveform 4x4 is no longer compatible with T-Mobile.
T-Mobile has blocked the gateway once the antenna is installed.
I have not heard that nor do I think they can detect it, what is your source?