It's really nice boat but my 5 figures salary say my $400 Lifetime Tamarack Pro was closer to my budget. Jackson Kayak have been impressed me. Nice review video.
@@ChadHooverFishing I wondering if Jackson do blow molding budget kayaks? It's cheaper then Roto molding. You can mold a kayak with a 7 minute cycle time not including the secondary operation
@@EtxpaddlesportsMakes sense if you trying to avoid spreading invasive species. It's more a personal preference for me being able to lower and raise the rudder. I believe the rudder on the Hobie and Old Town goes past the back keel. So you have to be able to raise the rudder up and down so you don't mess up your rudder. On the new Jackson kayak and the older maybe newer models of the Native kayaks the rudder runs flush with the keel so you don't have the problem of having to worry about messing up your rudder. It's a matter of personal preference. I personally believe you get better performance with the design of the rudder on the Hobie and Old Town kayaks. I have read several blogs where people have replaced the rudder on the older Native kayaks to get better performance. To me, Hobie sets the bench mark to what other kayak manufacturers try to follow. I don't own a Hobie. This is just my personal observation. I have a Jackson Liska for the river and Old Town Auto Pilot 120 for my local reservoirs. I have been happy with both kayaks. I am not opposed to Jackson kayaks at all. I do think they could have knocked out of the park on this kayak with a different rudder design.
@@BassDudeFishn the rudder on the Knarr (and other Jacksons) is inline (protected) by the keel of the boat, and incredibly resilient. Just about the only way to mess one up would be to drop it off of a trailer or truck bed onto the concrete, or to go backwards through shallow rocks/timber. And Hobie may have “set the bar” according to some people, but that doesn’t put a ceiling in place for future accomplishments in layout, engineering, and overall fishability, like the Knarr has done on many fronts. But to address your “concern” (over a design that you haven’t even tried out on the water), this boat will turn inside of a PA’s turning radius. Easily. The Knarr and the PA14 are two COMPLETELY different boats.
@@Trav918Fishing let’s see automatic reverse, kicks up. Super fast, don’t have to worry about bent rods, comfortable seat, can easily mount two motors, etc etc
I can see the speed difference in the new drive. It seems faster than hobie mirage drive which is appealing also the Knarr sits lower in the water than the hobie pa. Which is also appealing.
Did he say Unlimited! Time stamp 10:15 LOL 😆 Not trying to offend and I hate to say it, but just another big boat from Jackson with a big price tag. If you add a spot lock motor, a lithium battery and a big screen your talking some serious coin. In the old days if you had a motor you were cheating now they want to add two motors. Not really what I'm looking for, but too each his own.
It has an extra rod holder on each side other than that it's identical to my Coosa F.D. Jackson makes a top-line Kayak no doubt. I love mine!! Thanks for sharing Chad. Thanks for all you do for our sport
I can see where it may appear that way on the surface, but this a vastly different craft than the Coosa FD. I think you will see more when I release the on the water overview
Haha I hear ya. Ive got one of the ten foot pelicans and I love it. Some of the lakes I fish are pretty shallow or full of weeds and lilly pads. Which means most of the stuff on kayaks like this one would be pointless. Id never be able to use the peddles or even a trolling motor for that matter.
I been checking this kayak out recently on videos and it looks to be a very well thought out yak. I really like the way it sits pretty high off the water. If I had the money I would def try it and looks very spacious.
I can’t afford one right now either, but It was great to get one out for a spin and I will be working with the Jackson Marketing Dept try and coordinate a loaner for a day or two to do a final rigging and overall review
@@sinkorswim8258 Kaku doesn’t get much love, but at the end of the day it’s all subjective. I have a Zulu and and think it’s great. Also love it as I’ve known Kevin since he was a teenager, and their headquarters is less than a mile from me.
I would prefer this over a hobie and I had a PA 12 last year …I think a pedal drive is more useful when fishing with instant reverse and not having to turn a handle or pull a cable ….I like Jackson’s stuff and it’s not really overpriced ..it is staying in line with what the market is commanding right now
That's a very interesting rig. I have been considering purchasing a pedal kayak for the last 4 years, but the inflated prices keep pushing me away. I thought this might be the year, but no way I can drop $4K+ on a boat right now. Guess I'll keep paddling another season. Jackson Cuda FD owner here btw, 90% saltwater kayaker.
I hear you , it's a lot of money. My advice, right when winter gets close there are always a ton of lightly used kayaks that people are selling. I got my wilderness systems radar for 1400, with the pedal drive. Just an idea
There are a few retailers and apps that offer a payment plan (Klarna for example) that could help you with your goals. Of course, purchasing second hand is good too! You can find some really good gems out there.
I like everything about it except the rudder. I prefer a rudder that can be raised and lowered. There is nothing to prevent the rudder from being torn off if I’m kayaking a creek or river and hit rapids?
I've run my FD's on rivers for several years now. The rudder itself is pretty beefy and I've never had that happen. It doesn't hang lower than the skeg formed by the hull there so that isn't happening.
Not like this one. Some have seats that will adjust slightly, but not like this as far as I know. I personally don’t really see a use for the low position honestly
@@ChadHooverFishing that’s what I was thinking. Maybe go low when crashing breakers from a beach launch. But I think in a lake situation the high position would be best.
Chad stop giving these companies a pass. For the money Jackson kayaks made off us then give us a junk peddle drive system and they should make good by replacing all our old units with these new ones.
I’m not giving anyone a pass and I’m not done with what I have to say about this kayak. I’ve literally only begun. I’m getting into the real stuff when I get it on the water and really put it through the paces. That said, it’s not my job to decide company policies or even get into that. That’s up to them to decide how they want to handle and once they do I may weigh in with my opinion. We don’t even really know what they are going to do yet. I would suppose that they would do something to preserve customer loyalty. I agree with what you are saying in general terms though. If this was just a “better” pedal drive I would just call it progress and say that’s part of the evolution of a product like any other product line or series. But, since they have had significant issues with the other versions of the pedal drive I agree that there should be something a little more done than “you can buy a new one.” Thanks for the comment and let’s keep them honest as we see how it plays out.
I like this set up a lot, several key innovations that Hobie hasn’t taken up the slack on. This is coming from a 2020 PA14 owner. The stager bungee things look way better and it is more accommodating of other track accessories, compared to just having an H-Rail. Will I change boats, not likely. But I hope this competition helps Hobie and Jackson Kayaks continue to innovate and improve upon these platforms, they seem to get better every year!
Chad thanks for the effort, great job on the review. It's got my attention but, not my wallet's-lol! I can get a Recon 120 HD out the door for $2639. or just the Recon 120 for $1289. and customize it.
It's time for these kayak companies to realize they need to make a model without those stupid drives and truly make a minni bass boat.. make them wider and longer with a trailer.. capable of having a bow and a stern mount motors.. this is just more of the same old kayak
I appreciate American 🇺🇸 companies actually designing and making something that’s been around better. I think Hobie is another company from what I’ve read and seen. I’m sure China is already reverse engineered it and is making some knock-off that will be at Walmart soon
Can you please help me on my mission by helping me get a Jackson Knarr FD kayak to complete my mission in saving our beautiful waterways lakes, rivers and ocean
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Usually positive but to be honest tired of the companies going over board on prices. Just cause another company does it doesn’t mean everyone needs to do it. Plus there are so many Jackson owners that are having issues with their fd drives but they keep getting charged for replacements now they completely change the drive and either you need to deal with the old one or shell out a ton for the new style drive. My guess is $1000 or over. And Don’t get me wrong I Like Jackson just feel like they are forgetting about their customers that bought the older Fd drives. It’s really separating the lower class that can’t afford these kayaks. I do get they need to make money but times are rough all over. Sorry not trying to be super negative.
I hear you, but they can either improve or die. That’s the nature of business right now. At least they made the drive where you can retrofit it which usually isn’t the case when many companies upgrade their product line.
I know this thing is built for big waters, but, MAN, if they just woulda made it a foot shorter, and lighter, they could sell a lot more of these. Quite a big, and heavy kayak.
Thanks for the overview! Love south sauty ramp!
Chad…..thanks for reviewing; any info on the kayak trailers you both have? Love the trailer in review for transport and launching such a big kayak…..
Mine is the On The Water Innovations Tourney Tree O
Check out their website
www.onthewaterinnovations.com/product-info
Thanks Chad
freaking love the horizontal rod solution!!
Who go Navy!
It's really nice boat but my 5 figures salary say my $400 Lifetime Tamarack Pro was closer to my budget. Jackson Kayak have been impressed me. Nice review video.
Whatever gets you out there brother!!
@@ChadHooverFishing I wondering if Jackson do blow molding budget kayaks? It's cheaper then Roto molding. You can mold a kayak with a 7 minute cycle time not including the secondary operation
I’m a fishing kayak fanatic! What a great looking yak.
Do we Need truck for the next model? I suppose i Will attemp for a new drive licence! 😅
Looks good, but......I don't like not being able to raise the rudder up and down for storage. Hobie and Oldtown kayaks have this feature.
There are give and take in all designs. But I hear what you are saying.
You can pull one pin and completely remove the rudder for storage/cleaning. A truly necessary feature in areas worried about giant salvinia.
@@EtxpaddlesportsMakes sense if you trying to avoid spreading invasive species. It's more a personal preference for me being able to lower and raise the rudder. I believe the rudder on the Hobie and Old Town goes past the back keel. So you have to be able to raise the rudder up and down so you don't mess up your rudder. On the new Jackson kayak and the older maybe newer models of the Native kayaks the rudder runs flush with the keel so you don't have the problem of having to worry about messing up your rudder. It's a matter of personal preference. I personally believe you get better performance with the design of the rudder on the Hobie and Old Town kayaks. I have read several blogs where people have replaced the rudder on the older Native kayaks to get better performance. To me, Hobie sets the bench mark to what other kayak manufacturers try to follow. I don't own a Hobie. This is just my personal observation. I have a Jackson Liska for the river and Old Town Auto Pilot 120 for my local reservoirs. I have been happy with both kayaks. I am not opposed to Jackson kayaks at all. I do think they could have knocked out of the park on this kayak with a different rudder design.
@@BassDudeFishn the rudder on the Knarr (and other Jacksons) is inline (protected) by the keel of the boat, and incredibly resilient. Just about the only way to mess one up would be to drop it off of a trailer or truck bed onto the concrete, or to go backwards through shallow rocks/timber.
And Hobie may have “set the bar” according to some people, but that doesn’t put a ceiling in place for future accomplishments in layout, engineering, and overall fishability, like the Knarr has done on many fronts. But to address your “concern” (over a design that you haven’t even tried out on the water), this boat will turn inside of a PA’s turning radius. Easily.
The Knarr and the PA14 are two COMPLETELY different boats.
@@Etxpaddlesports you make some valid points. I look forward to seeing a video comparing the Jackson Knarr to the Hobie PA 14.
This is going to give the Hobie PA 14 some serious competition
Its just a copy of a PA14
I doubt it. Too expensive. Why not spend a little more and get a 360 at that point??
You think? Obvious
@@ETuss713 far from it
@@Trav918Fishing let’s see automatic reverse, kicks up. Super fast, don’t have to worry about bent rods, comfortable seat, can easily mount two motors, etc etc
Prices are getting outrageous!
Costs of producing anything are at record highs, and are probably not ever going back down again. It is what it is.
I can see the speed difference in the new drive. It seems faster than hobie mirage drive which is appealing also the Knarr sits lower in the water than the hobie pa. Which is also appealing.
Mine ships today!
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Great walkthrough Richard! Thanks for the great video Chad!
Thanks Mike
Did he say Unlimited! Time stamp 10:15 LOL 😆 Not trying to offend and I hate to say it, but just another big boat from Jackson with a big price tag. If you add a spot lock motor, a lithium battery and a big screen your talking some serious coin. In the old days if you had a motor you were cheating now they want to add two motors. Not really what I'm looking for, but too each his own.
Yeap, that’s the great thing about having choices.
Love this boat. Way better than Big Rig. You all nailed this one!
They did a great job
Very well thought out yak
13:54 there is a strange noise background
Those are Canada Geese
It has an extra rod holder on each side other than that it's identical to my Coosa F.D. Jackson makes a top-line Kayak no doubt. I love mine!! Thanks for sharing Chad. Thanks for all you do for our sport
I can see where it may appear that way on the surface, but this a vastly different craft than the Coosa FD. I think you will see more when I release the on the water overview
@@ChadHooverFishing when will that be?
I’m much more interested after watching this video. Thanks for giving us the early look.
Looks like a beast! Great video!
Thanks. Sorry about the audio, it was SUPER windy and I did the best I could
never heard of the knarr. Thanks for sharing
...meanwhile, back at my $300 ten footer... 🎣👍😊🎣 FISH ON!
Them Jackson boats ALWAYS look nice. 😊
Haha I hear ya. Ive got one of the ten foot pelicans and I love it. Some of the lakes I fish are pretty shallow or full of weeds and lilly pads. Which means most of the stuff on kayaks like this one would be pointless. Id never be able to use the peddles or even a trolling motor for that matter.
can I take my 8 yr old son with me on this boat? where he could properly sit?
Nice kayak. dig the tri tracks.
Thanks
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Will the bonedox fit?
Way out of my price range?! 😬$$$
Thanks for the feedback. Not every boat is going to be for everyone
I been checking this kayak out recently on videos and it looks to be a very well thought out yak. I really like the way it sits pretty high off the water. If I had the money I would def try it and looks very spacious.
I can’t afford one right now either, but It was great to get one out for a spin and I will be working with the Jackson Marketing Dept try and coordinate a loaner for a day or two to do a final rigging and overall review
Get you a Kaku zulu.
@@sinkorswim8258 Kaku doesn’t get much love, but at the end of the day it’s all subjective. I have a Zulu and and think it’s great. Also love it as I’ve known Kevin since he was a teenager, and their headquarters is less than a mile from me.
Hey Master Chief, I think you need a bigger trailer. GSM1 (SW) retired here
I would prefer this over a hobie and I had a PA 12 last year …I think a pedal drive is more useful when fishing with instant reverse and not having to turn a handle or pull a cable ….I like Jackson’s stuff and it’s not really overpriced ..it is staying in line with what the market is commanding right now
That's a very interesting rig. I have been considering purchasing a pedal kayak for the last 4 years, but the inflated prices keep pushing me away. I thought this might be the year, but no way I can drop $4K+ on a boat right now. Guess I'll keep paddling another season. Jackson Cuda FD owner here btw, 90% saltwater kayaker.
I hear you , it's a lot of money. My advice, right when winter gets close there are always a ton of lightly used kayaks that people are selling. I got my wilderness systems radar for 1400, with the pedal drive. Just an idea
There are a few retailers and apps that offer a payment plan (Klarna for example) that could help you with your goals. Of course, purchasing second hand is good too! You can find some really good gems out there.
Looking to see this knock Hobie down a notch just to keep them in check!! This looks like a nice kayak for sure!
I like everything about it except the rudder. I prefer a rudder that can be raised and lowered. There is nothing to prevent the rudder from being torn off if I’m kayaking a creek or river and hit rapids?
I've run my FD's on rivers for several years now. The rudder itself is pretty beefy and I've never had that happen. It doesn't hang lower than the skeg formed by the hull there so that isn't happening.
@@joshuaevans59 thank you for the information
@@icmastin yes sir.
The rudder is stream lined. Haven’t had issues breaking one
Any trips to Briery planned, Chad?
Have they improved their peddle drive system? They have had one of the worse peddle drives
Yes. Significantly
A 1000 videos on walk arounds. Let's see videos in the water performance.
It was the next video that I released and I do on water revues if ALL kayaks that I reviews
GO Navy, Beat Army! Retired Navy here. Been kayak fishing 18 years... Hobie guy - don't hold it against me...
Does anyone else do a high-low seat on a pedal drive?
Not like this one. Some have seats that will adjust slightly, but not like this as far as I know. I personally don’t really see a use for the low position honestly
@@ChadHooverFishing that’s what I was thinking. Maybe go low when crashing breakers from a beach launch. But I think in a lake situation the high position would be best.
Wicked!!!
Chad stop giving these companies a pass. For the money Jackson kayaks made off us then give us a junk peddle drive system and they should make good by replacing all our old units with these new ones.
I’m not giving anyone a pass and I’m not done with what I have to say about this kayak. I’ve literally only begun. I’m getting into the real stuff when I get it on the water and really put it through the paces.
That said, it’s not my job to decide company policies or even get into that. That’s up to them to decide how they want to handle and once they do I may weigh in with my opinion. We don’t even really know what they are going to do yet. I would suppose that they would do something to preserve customer loyalty.
I agree with what you are saying in general terms though. If this was just a “better” pedal drive I would just call it progress and say that’s part of the evolution of a product like any other product line or series. But, since they have had significant issues with the other versions of the pedal drive I agree that there should be something a little more done than “you can buy a new one.”
Thanks for the comment and let’s keep them honest as we see how it plays out.
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I like this set up a lot, several key innovations that Hobie hasn’t taken up the slack on. This is coming from a 2020 PA14 owner. The stager bungee things look way better and it is more accommodating of other track accessories, compared to just having an H-Rail.
Will I change boats, not likely. But I hope this competition helps Hobie and Jackson Kayaks continue to innovate and improve upon these platforms, they seem to get better every year!
Amen! And when that happens, we as the consumers (anglers) win!!
That thing looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to seeing it out on the water.
Wow! So is it worth 1000 more than a P127?
You know, I’m not sure. That’s one of those value proposition things that consumers really have to decide for themselves
if the turning is half way better than the p127 its worth it. that p127 is a barge...
Is it easy to get to the rutter cable?
Yes, it’s right there when you open the back hatch
This is a pretty slick setup. I like it 👍
Will it support having a wheel system attached to it without destroying the hull if we can't wet launch from the trailer?
I think that it will work well with several systems out there. I will make sure to cover that in my final review
Yeah I would like to know if it will hold the sidekick for that is a heavy kayak and sidekick will come in handy if you don't trailer
Chad thanks for the effort, great job on the review. It's got my attention but, not my wallet's-lol!
I can get a Recon 120 HD out the door for $2639. or just the Recon 120 for $1289. and customize it.
If I didn't already own a autopilot I would definitely get this kayak.
I’m doing the Autopilot next and it’s a really great platform too.
Nice kayak. That thing is amazing. I can't find a place to purchase Jackson Kayaks here in Alabama. Any suggestions? New follower. Crow
$4,200 for a kayak that weighs 140+lbs?! No thanks.
does the drive float?
Uh, NO!!
@@ChadHooverFishing lol i didnt think so but it was wishful thinking. Maybe they can take notes from someone else?
So did Jackson hire an Ex Hobie engineer or did they just buy someone's old PA14 to just copy it?
Pretty much since the Native Americans made dugout canoes and the Inuits made the first kayaks, everything else has been a copy. 😂😂😂😂
Think i couid drag this across the soft sand on the Gulf beaches or would that cause a problem with the drive?
Honesty I like my Teton pro better and the price !
Good for you. But that’s like comparing flip flops to hiking boots. 😂😂😂😂 The “best”
kayak for every person is the best one for them.
It's time for these kayak companies to realize they need to make a model without those stupid drives and truly make a minni bass boat.. make them wider and longer with a trailer.. capable of having a bow and a stern mount motors.. this is just more of the same old kayak
It’s coming…… but the progression isn’t stupid. It’s how you get there
@@ChadHooverFishing yeah stupid was a bad choice of words..
Right at some point it's not a kyak anymore .. ow you gotta buy a trailer and pay for the boat launch ! Stupid .
Are there any decent pedal options under $2k? Would mount my Garmin and maybe eventually a bow mount trolling motor.
Who makes the storage bin behind the seat??
you had me up until the rudder,
What do you mean?
@@ChadHooverFishing Looks like it was just flopping around and always got to worry about how you drag it around, Just my thought
Chad this is the kayak that I need to complete my mission in saving our beautiful waterways
Jus sitting here waiting for the honest on the water review from someone who's not a jackson rep 👀🤣
I’m posting it tomorrow
@@ChadHooverFishing Bryce Gibbs reeling me in to a 360..up to you and Penny to change my mind 🤣
KBF should go to no motor format - human powered only! Before long, kayaks will be going 25mph! What truly then differentiates it from jon boats?
I wish my Auto Pilot had rod tubes like that
Wow that's nice but that's getty up there in price add a trailer, batteries, trolling motor and a depth finder....this has to be Putin's fault
😂😂😂😂😂
Chad please help me out on my mission this Jackson Knarr FD kayak is perfect for me for my mission in saving our beautiful waterways
seriously. 2 Motors? why not a microwave oven? it's a joke how much crap people buy to put on a kayak.
Chad please help me on my mission in saving our beautiful waterways with this beautiful kayak Jackson Knarr FD
Can’t wait to try this thing out at iCast and hopefully meet you there as well sir! Will be my first time going! I’m so excited to say the least! 🤣😁
It’s basically a PA 14. Don’t think it will compete with Hobie though. Hobie is top of the line for a reason. But it does look cool.
No. It isn’t 🤣
As Lance said, no it’s not a PA14 clone
I appreciate American 🇺🇸 companies actually designing and making something that’s been around better. I think Hobie is another company from what I’ve read and seen. I’m sure China is already reverse engineered it and is making some knock-off that will be at Walmart soon
I was pretty impressed until the price tag lol. Ill stick with my old town
Can you please help me on my mission by helping me get a Jackson Knarr FD kayak to complete my mission in saving our beautiful waterways lakes, rivers and ocean
Chad please help me on my mission please you are the only hope that I have
Well, I sure won’t be buying one of these problematic Kayaks.❤
Lots of POTENTIAL!
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Usually positive but to be honest tired of the companies going over board on prices. Just cause another company does it doesn’t mean everyone needs to do it. Plus there are so many Jackson owners that are having issues with their fd drives but they keep getting charged for replacements now they completely change the drive and either you need to deal with the old one or shell out a ton for the new style drive. My guess is $1000 or over. And Don’t get me wrong I Like Jackson just feel like they are forgetting about their customers that bought the older Fd drives. It’s really separating the lower class that can’t afford these kayaks. I do get they need to make money but times are rough all over. Sorry not trying to be super negative.
I hear you, but they can either improve or die. That’s the nature of business right now. At least they made the drive where you can retrofit it which usually isn’t the case when many companies upgrade their product line.
I know this thing is built for big waters, but, MAN, if they just woulda made it a foot shorter, and lighter, they could sell a lot more of these. Quite a big, and heavy kayak.
Everyone better name it Knarrwhal
Boring
Sorry that my kayak walkthrough wasn’t “exciting” enough for you. 😂😂😂 but thanks for the comment though.