This is what football is all about... no matter who you are, no matter what you like, no matter where you from, no matter what you believe in... football is a game to reunite, to unify and respect each other.
Please with that nonsense. There were so many unspoken rules about which positions blacks were allowed to play and how many you were allowed to have on your team. Packers at most had only 13 black players on a 50+ roster.
Vince can relate because he was discriminated his whole life. He was discriminated for being an Italian . Got passed over for jobs he wanted such as Army. Got into a fight in his college for being Italian. He may have been a hard ass (in a good way) but he can relate to his players
Lombardi could be a mean cuss sometimes, but he was the same mean cuss to every player who played for him, regardless of their beliefs, race, whatever the case may be. It's one of the things that made him a great coach and an even better man.
Lombardi only cared about how you practiced and played football. Yes he would of liked if Max McGee and Paul Horning were more grounded after practice. But these players gave their all as it pertained to football just like Sonny did
Homosexuality and adultery are behaviors. The civil rights bill covers everyone. Everyone has a right to be treated like humans, but you can't act anyway you want.
Football produces immediate results, so the employees matter. Absolutely no room for favoritism if you wanna win. Kinda makes you wonder about other areas.
In Windsor Ontario Canada the police force is 40 percent gay or bisexual . Like Thomas both ways Crowley . Jason Crowley . Ronald 2 ways Leclair . Brad red boots Smith . Tammy Fryer
What about people in general? People were much worst back then; more racist, more discriminatory, more sexist, etc, etc. The only reason you think gay people now are less descent is because now they don’t hide who they are. You used to like them hiding.
@@rustyrelicsfarm2406 From Wikipedia: After the United States entered World War II, amendments to the Selective Training and Service Act on December 20, 1941, made all men between the ages of 20 and 44 liable for military service, and required all men between the ages of 18 and 64 to register. The terminal point of service was extended to the duration of the conflict plus six months. Another amendment, signed on November 13, 1942, made the registered 18- and 19-year-olds liable for military service. From October 1940 until March 1947, when the wartime Selective Training and Service Act expired after extensions by Congress, over 10,000,000 men were inducted.
Packers had at most only had 13 black players on their team. 1969 Chiefs had 23 black players. 1974 Steelers had 29 which was a majority. Lombardi was not committed to equality.
Nonsense. Blacks were just starting to integrate into the league in 1959. At the time, the Packers had zero on their squad. It was also a very young and talented team, so there wasn’t much roster space at that time.
What a funny term-Tolerance.....Back when I was a small boy (late 60's) we all knew who the Gays where and even had our suspicions who the men were that liked little boys. Nothing derogatory was EVER spoke about these groups and my family where strong Christian. We were just told to respect them but to not embrace their lifestyle. We were neighbors with this gay couple and the man that liked little boys was the sports photographer. My folks told me to never get into a car with this guy unless other adults were present. No fights, no abductions, no anger, no foul mouthed tirades. Just co existing peacefully and still grounded in our Christian principals......Sure seems like things made more sense then...
Please don’t link consensual adult behaviour with child abuse. That is a stick that has been used to beat gays for decades now, have some gay friends I would be happy to babysit my kids, a priest- never.
Impassable, I would challenge you to pray to God and ask Him how He feels about it. I know what it says in the bible about homhsexuality. But I also know that It says that we are all God's children.
That helps debunk the myth that the Redskins name was racist. An anti-racist like Lombardi never would've taken the Redskins job if the name was as offensive as the woke crowd claims. He would dismiss most of the things the woke crowd get triggered over and tell them to be more mentally tough.
1:14 I doubt Lombardi actually said that. He may have been a decent guy who was tolerant of gays, such men did exist then. However men who thought that way didn't grandstand like that. They might do that today. But If they wanted to help a gay guy out in those days, they kept their mouth shut. Helped him "keep his secret"
Not to take away from his legacy, but a part of me wonders if his tolerance and acceptance truly extended to everyone or if he was SJW-esque in his approach where Christophobia and Republicanphobia wasn't as condemned as racism and homophobia. Would he be like most people on the left nowadays who preach tolerance and acceptance but practice it with non-conservatives only? Would he comfort pro AND anti-Trump people after the election or just the anti-Trump crowd and say/do nothing as far as pro-Trump people getting harassed and beaten up? Does agree to disagree exist or is it the liberal or die approach of agree with me on everything or get lost?
Isaiah Irizarry I wasn't linking 60s football to Trump. It was more along the lines of wondering if Lombardi's degree of acceptance could be linked up with the degree of acceptance (or lack thereof) practiced by the SJWs.
When Richard Nixon was preparing his run for the Republican Party's nomination for President in '68, he considered Lombardi as a running mate until an aide informed him that Vince was a "Kennedy Democrat". I'd say that supports your observation about Vince very well.
cqtaylor I wasn't labeling tolerance/equality as weak. I was just asking whether or not Lombardi's level of acceptance included everyone or just a certain few. However, the tolerance/equality from the left is weak in quality and substance. Until the left decides to show more respect to conservatives and tune out people like Ole Okie Watson, Maxine Waters, and Keith Olbermann, their brand of tolerance/equality will fall on deaf ears and continue to get ripped on for not being fully inclusive.
This is what football is all about... no matter who you are, no matter what you like, no matter where you from, no matter what you believe in... football is a game to reunite, to unify and respect each other.
Please with that nonsense. There were so many unspoken rules about which positions blacks were allowed to play and how many you were allowed to have on your team. Packers at most had only 13 black players on a 50+ roster.
Vince can relate because he was discriminated his whole life. He was discriminated for being an Italian . Got passed over for jobs he wanted such as Army. Got into a fight in his college for being Italian. He may have been a hard ass (in a good way) but he can relate to his players
dave4248 sorry for late response, and yes it was true. He was gonna get kicked out because of it
Also, Notre Dame and the Giants.
He was also passed over for the head coaching job at Wake Forest for the same reason.
Lombardi could be a mean cuss sometimes, but he was the same mean cuss to every player who played for him, regardless of their beliefs, race, whatever the case may be. It's one of the things that made him a great coach and an even better man.
Also his brother being gay
Big respect to the NFL for producing a gutsy, provocative, beautiful film.
The greatest coach ever, was just as amazing as a human being
Honestly,Jerry Smith is one of the best TE’s in NFL history...
Lombardi was a great man, but an even better human being.
Ray McDonald eventually became a junior high music teacher. Music was probably more important than football.
Apparently you watch the documentary on Ray McDonald and Vince Lombardi he fired him because he'd rather play the piano than show up for practice
He hurt his knee in college and it really threw him off.
He could’ve said anything and chose to tell Vince that he was playing the piano.....
Coach Lombardi was a great coach, in more ways than one.
If you can play it shouldn't matter to him what you did in your private life
@dave4248 I think he missed meetings/practices though. Which is why Lombardi said "Mister. Where were you?". He was also declining in practices.
They had security escort Dan Rather from the CBS building. When he was fired, Rather would not leave.
Great man!
deliverance is the Childrens Bread
I have no idea how Vince got along with Sonny. Sonny was the 60s and 70s version of Bobby Lane. The DC police would just drive him home.
Sonny said it was the first time he had a coach in the NFL. Before Lombardi, Sonny was basically coaching himself.
Lombardi only cared about how you practiced and played football. Yes he would of liked if Max McGee and Paul Horning were more grounded after practice. But these players gave their all as it pertained to football just like Sonny did
Homosexuality and adultery are behaviors. The civil rights bill covers everyone. Everyone has a right to be treated like humans, but you can't act anyway you want.
Football produces immediate results, so the employees matter. Absolutely no room for favoritism if you wanna win. Kinda makes you wonder about other areas.
Then why did the Packers at most 13 black players on a 50+ roaster when Lombardi was coach?
In Windsor Ontario Canada the police force is 40 percent gay or bisexual . Like Thomas both ways Crowley . Jason Crowley . Ronald 2 ways Leclair . Brad red boots Smith . Tammy Fryer
Lincoln wasn’t quite as Rather made him out.
Lincoln proposed sending black Americans/slaves to an island.
What is different between gays of the past and today, the gays of the past in my observation are more descent than the gays of today. Just an opinion.
Talk about generalization.
What about people in general?
People were much worst back then; more racist, more discriminatory, more sexist, etc, etc.
The only reason you think gay people now are less descent is because now they don’t hide who they are.
You used to like them hiding.
How did he coach at West Point after weaseling out of the draft during WW2, 3 deferments?
He was considered too old to serve in World War Two. He was born in 1913.
@@rustyrelicsfarm2406 From Wikipedia: After the United States entered World War II, amendments to the Selective Training and Service Act on December 20, 1941, made all men between the ages of 20 and 44 liable for military service, and required all men between the ages of 18 and 64 to register. The terminal point of service was extended to the duration of the conflict plus six months. Another amendment, signed on November 13, 1942, made the registered 18- and 19-year-olds liable for military service. From October 1940 until March 1947, when the wartime Selective Training and Service Act expired after extensions by Congress, over 10,000,000 men were inducted.
@tertommy According to Wikipedia Vinces 1st deferment was due to his profession as a teacher, second one parenthood, and the 3rd deferment was a 4A.
@@rustyrelicsfarm2406 And how many teachers, fathers joined the armed services? He was a phony.
Packers had at most only had 13 black players on their team.
1969 Chiefs had 23 black players.
1974 Steelers had 29 which was a majority.
Lombardi was not committed to equality.
And the 1967 Steelers, the last year of Lombardi in Green Bay, had 11 black players.
Nonsense. Blacks were just starting to integrate into the league in 1959. At the time, the Packers had zero on their squad. It was also a very young and talented team, so there wasn’t much roster space at that time.
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What a funny term-Tolerance.....Back when I was a small boy (late 60's) we all knew who the Gays where and even had our suspicions who the men were that liked little boys. Nothing derogatory was EVER spoke about these groups and my family where strong Christian. We were just told to respect them but to not embrace their lifestyle. We were neighbors with this gay couple and the man that liked little boys was the sports photographer. My folks told me to never get into a car with this guy unless other adults were present. No fights, no abductions, no anger, no foul mouthed tirades. Just co existing peacefully and still grounded in our Christian principals......Sure seems like things made more sense then...
Please don’t link consensual adult behaviour with child abuse. That is a stick that has been used to beat gays for decades now, have some gay friends I would be happy to babysit my kids, a priest- never.
@@royw-g3120 its linked because in many not all cases is it true.
Are you saying that gay people are pedophiles? 🥴
@@RPSanAntoIt’s literally not though. 🤨
Why are you lying? 🤔
I dont care what or who wants to talk about intolerance, God is intolerant...You want into his kingdom, repent and stop.
yeah, simple: just stop being gay.. good advice, you moron
That Theology degree is showing off.
Mr. Green - You are trying to be logical and reasonable...in the face of HATRED! Impassable's comments represent the views of many,many Americans.
Impassable, I would challenge you to pray to God and ask Him how He feels about it. I know what it says in the bible about homhsexuality. But I also know that It says that we are all God's children.
@@pauldavis22 no it doesn't say we are all God's children.
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Makes you think why coach Lombardi would coach for a racist team like the REDSKINS huh?
That helps debunk the myth that the Redskins name was racist. An anti-racist like Lombardi never would've taken the Redskins job if the name was as offensive as the woke crowd claims.
He would dismiss most of the things the woke crowd get triggered over and tell them to be more mentally tough.
Because it's not racist. Native Americans don't have red skin.
Not really tolerant if I’m fired or cut from the team because I have a different opinion than the head coach🙄👎👎
1:14 I doubt Lombardi actually said that. He may have been a decent guy who was tolerant of gays, such men did exist then. However men who thought that way didn't grandstand like that. They might do that today. But If they wanted to help a gay guy out in those days, they kept their mouth shut. Helped him "keep his secret"
You shouldn’t doubt greatness
He said it regardless of what you think.
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Not to take away from his legacy, but a part of me wonders if his tolerance and acceptance truly extended to everyone or if he was SJW-esque in his approach where Christophobia and Republicanphobia wasn't as condemned as racism and homophobia.
Would he be like most people on the left nowadays who preach tolerance and acceptance but practice it with non-conservatives only? Would he comfort pro AND anti-Trump people after the election or just the anti-Trump crowd and say/do nothing as far as pro-Trump people getting harassed and beaten up? Does agree to disagree exist or is it the liberal or die approach of agree with me on everything or get lost?
Isaiah Irizarry I wasn't linking 60s football to Trump. It was more along the lines of wondering if Lombardi's degree of acceptance could be linked up with the degree of acceptance (or lack thereof) practiced by the SJWs.
You want us to tolerate your intolerance?
When Richard Nixon was preparing his run for the Republican Party's nomination for President in '68, he considered Lombardi as a running mate until an aide informed him that Vince was a "Kennedy Democrat". I'd say that supports your observation about Vince very well.
There's nothing weak about tolerance and equality.
cqtaylor I wasn't labeling tolerance/equality as weak. I was just asking whether or not Lombardi's level of acceptance included everyone or just a certain few.
However, the tolerance/equality from the left is weak in quality and substance. Until the left decides to show more respect to conservatives and tune out people like Ole Okie Watson, Maxine Waters, and Keith Olbermann, their brand of tolerance/equality will fall on deaf ears and continue to get ripped on for not being fully inclusive.
Lombardi was a Man, who treated all Players on the same level. Today’s coaches are not like that.