I think a lot gets lost in translation. Light+fast or Heavy+slow. See what works best in your launcher. Ultimately 15/20/25J (or whatever) can be achieved through any number of combinations.
@d.Simpson8525 your welcome hope my content helps you and your loved ones out, can follow me on twitter for more content as well @LLAFDEFENSE thanks for watching
Do you run the less lethal store..I just ordered and received duke extreme peppers and a bottle of glass breakers from you...I'm feeling the glass breakers as good impact option
@edgefitness4700 actually no I do not run that store , I just got to know the owners really good good through talking to them and making purchases on phone and online because there in same state about 4 hrs one way from me . As for the ceramics here’s the sight where I ordered them mcsus.com/products/68-cal-polymer-impact-rounds-100ct-bottle
I just bought the BYRNA SD and I'm a total newbie. I would like to get extra ammo to practice and Byrna seems expensive. Are all these projectiles usable in my Byrna? I'm a female just looking to defend my home against an intruder. I know not to use the pepper balls indoors, so I would like to just have the rubber bullet projectiles. Where do you buy these? The home wrecker balls seemed good. Can you help me?
@@user-bf6go9nf6g can’t speak for the LE never had one “yet” but I’d say no more then maybe 4.5-4.6 Gram homewreker busting balls get 100ct bag for under $30 less-lethaldefense.com/shop/ols/products/homewreker-busting-balls-68-cal
I recently discovered with a ball gauge, that the Byrna projectiles are larger than "JulV3 rounds, Homewrecker" and all others so far. That means to me, they have to be that size to achieve the best bore match to the barrel. So now I will only use the factory Byrna rounds in my LE for carry.
You still think the 4.5 home wrecker are the best for the LE ? I bought them and also bought 3.6 blue nylon projectiles from amazon but am not sure which one is better. Which one you think would hurt the most in a 10 round mag ?
@@larrysierens1029 they will work but heavier rounds will loose velocity fast in the byrnas, I recommend nothing higher then glass breakers and byrnas because at short distances no more then say 15 feet both will hurt
Checked out MCS to look at the ceramic rounds and saw some colorless paintball rounds for training and an even better round...68 cal Skunk Rounds 😂. Now there is a deterrent... Making someone smell like they've been sprayed by a skunk. You could mix them in with the other rounds and really surprise an intruder. Now if only I could find the itching powered they made back in the mid 80s. That stuff was nasty. It reacted to the natural oils on your and made you feel like you were covered in fire ants.
Be careful, I had a pepper ball crack open on it is own in my Byrna SD, recently. That was some hellish cleaning. Did some research and found other owners have had the same issue happen to them. No more pepper rounds go into my SD anymore, just kinetics and max. I have to try those Glass Breakers, though.
@@RapidAssualtTactics Well, I think you were saying don't use the Grimburg projectiles out the Byrna they are not effective. I guess you are saying they are too heavy to shoot out of the SD, too slow I guess??
They won’t work in 7rd mag because the way they load in zig zag 5rd mag no issues other launchers no issues as long as the mag spring pushes down straight they have been no issues
@@oclaothug69 if your referring to any o rings or a specific o ring , I’m honestly not sure , but I can tell you one thing for sure 100% I have not personally had any issues with o rings on any launcher and haven’t never heard of an o ring going bad with a heavier round . I have heard of o rings in general going bad do to just being old in launchers and also not properly making sure they stay having a little oil or grease “paintball grease” to keep them operating like they should and from drying out . Now there is one issue I can speak for with issues with a ring going bad fast . If your using a HPA tank on a launcher and then while it’s gassed up aired up you go to remove the air tank there’s a high likely hood that the rings on the threads on the hpa tank will go bad . That has happened to me every time so I keep a asa on off on so I can degas it without o ring issues. Hope that’s helps answer your question
You guys with the byrnas should try the hdr68 and order some DK Spencer custom kinetics 10.5 gram rounds they are absolutely crazy but speaking of byrna I love some good 7-11 gram ball it's perfect for the new LE model
I agree for the byrna LE but waiting on new version as for the heavier rounds over 8 gram the performance just isn’t there and had been known to cause damage to your bolt there too heavy and also you need to do a lot of exspensive mods to get the proper FPS out of 9-10 gram rounds just like the z rams those damage my bolt had to order new replacement
Got an LTL Bravo in addition to my Byrna... 500fps, 18J, .50 caliber, using aluminum rounds mixed with Pepperball rounds (I checked with Chiappa, the manufacturer and they said the barrel is high quality metal so aluminum rounds won't hurt it at all) and it works great as a daily carry for me here in AZ. The hdr68 is a great launcher and it's very versatile, but I just can't get past the butt cap for some reason lol. There are so many good self defense launchers on the market today and better ones being developed each year. It'll be interesting to see what comes out in 2024.
@krr91766 that is true but also not true , while my launchers are under warranty I use there ammo but once out warranty I’ve used from 2.8G to 10G rounds never had any issues . But if you want best performance in the LE SD EP and HD there ammo is best option I wouldn’t go higher then 3.7 G that’s if up close using them .
Hi thanks for the content need a little help in choosing out of the duke glass breaker or a homewreaker/jawbreaker 3.7 gm the one you are using is 4.5 gram . So asking out of the 3.75 gram glass breaker or jaw breaker which one would you chose ? Thanks again
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I think a lot gets lost in translation. Light+fast or Heavy+slow. See what works best in your launcher. Ultimately 15/20/25J (or whatever) can be achieved through any number of combinations.
I Love the videos, thanks for MOT only sharing but really educating folks on Self Defense strategies.
@d.Simpson8525 your welcome hope my content helps you and your loved ones out, can follow me on twitter for more content as well @LLAFDEFENSE thanks for watching
great video thank you and keep up the good work great advice
Thanks, will do!
Do you run the less lethal store..I just ordered and received duke extreme peppers and a bottle of glass breakers from you...I'm feeling the glass breakers as good impact option
I'm liking the ceramics as well...where do u get those ones
@edgefitness4700 actually no I do not run that store , I just got to know the owners really good good through talking to them and making purchases on phone and online because there in same state about 4 hrs one way from me . As for the ceramics here’s the sight where I ordered them
mcsus.com/products/68-cal-polymer-impact-rounds-100ct-bottle
I just bought the BYRNA SD and I'm a total newbie. I would like to get extra ammo to practice and Byrna seems expensive. Are all these projectiles usable in my Byrna? I'm a female just looking to defend my home against an intruder. I know not to use the pepper balls indoors, so I would like to just have the rubber bullet projectiles. Where do you buy these? The home wrecker balls seemed good. Can you help me?
less-lethaldefense.com/
@@RapidAssualtTactics thank you very much!
@@margaretlouise6200 no problem
Great video. I have been wondering about other ammo to try in my Byrna LE.
Thanks hope this helps you all out
Excellent video! What is the best weight ammo / sweet spot for the Byrna LE?
@@user-bf6go9nf6g can’t speak for the LE never had one “yet” but I’d say no more then maybe 4.5-4.6 Gram homewreker busting balls get 100ct bag for under $30
less-lethaldefense.com/shop/ols/products/homewreker-busting-balls-68-cal
I recently discovered with a ball gauge, that the Byrna projectiles are larger than "JulV3 rounds, Homewrecker" and all others so far. That means to me, they have to be that size to achieve the best bore match to the barrel. So now I will only use the factory Byrna rounds in my LE for carry.
@MultiSkyman1 yea that’s all I use in my LE is Byrna rounds
You still think the 4.5 home wrecker are the best for the LE ? I bought them and also bought 3.6 blue nylon projectiles from amazon but am not sure which one is better. Which one you think would hurt the most in a 10 round mag ?
@@legendaryphone1469 busting balls
@@RapidAssualtTactics Thanks for replying back so soon, I really appreciate!
Do these heavier projectiles cycle through the Byrna properly? I've seen videos where non-Byrna ammo doesn't work with the launchers well.
I’ve used every rounds out there including 10 gram riot balls they all cycle no issues at least not for me
Are the Duke glass breaker projectile more effective than byrna? How about aluminum projectiles
@@larrysierens1029 they will work but heavier rounds will loose velocity fast in the byrnas, I recommend nothing higher then glass breakers and byrnas because at short distances no more then say 15 feet both will hurt
Checked out MCS to look at the ceramic rounds and saw some colorless paintball rounds for training and an even better round...68 cal Skunk Rounds 😂. Now there is a deterrent... Making someone smell like they've been sprayed by a skunk. You could mix them in with the other rounds and really surprise an intruder.
Now if only I could find the itching powered they made back in the mid 80s. That stuff was nasty. It reacted to the natural oils on your and made you feel like you were covered in fire ants.
@joreel yea I’m been thinking about the skunk rounds lol but if they break in home might linger if string Oder lol
@@RapidAssualtTacticsTrue, but it would make for an interesting round to add to the magazine's ammo rotation as they'd never expect it lol
Might be good idea actually combing with pepper lol
I need pepper balls that's what i looking for i do security
What state are you in ?
Be careful, I had a pepper ball crack open on it is own in my Byrna SD, recently. That was some hellish cleaning. Did some research and found other owners have had the same issue happen to them. No more pepper rounds go into my SD anymore, just kinetics and max. I have to try those Glass Breakers, though.
Looking into getting a Byrna SD. I live in NY and can't have the Pepper 👿. What would be the best substitute?
@@desireegeremia4759 Byrna kinetics
Good info. I have the sd. . Saw the video on the kid takingbit to the forehead. 😂😂😂😂😂
I am sorry, what were you talking about Grimburg? I have the Gavle, so I am curious.
Not sure what you mean
@@RapidAssualtTactics Well, I think you were saying don't use the Grimburg projectiles out the Byrna they are not effective. I guess you are saying they are too heavy to shoot out of the SD, too slow I guess??
so we just have to eyeball the caliber for this ammo selection???
There all.68 caliber
Is there is any lasers for byrna sd ???
Did you test the rubber in a 7rd?
They won’t work in 7rd mag because the way they load in zig zag 5rd mag no issues other launchers no issues as long as the mag spring pushes down straight they have been no issues
Will the 10 gram projectile damage the seal on these less lethal since it's heavier?
Seal of what ?
@@RapidAssualtTactics the O rings
@@oclaothug69 if your referring to any o rings or a specific o ring , I’m honestly not sure , but I can tell you one thing for sure 100% I have not personally had any issues with o rings on any launcher and haven’t never heard of an o ring going bad with a heavier round . I have heard of o rings in general going bad do to just being old in launchers and also not properly making sure they stay having a little oil or grease “paintball grease” to keep them operating like they should and from drying out . Now there is one issue I can speak for with issues with a ring going bad fast . If your using a HPA tank on a launcher and then while it’s gassed up aired up you go to remove the air tank there’s a high likely hood that the rings on the threads on the hpa tank will go bad . That has happened to me every time so I keep a asa on off on so I can degas it without o ring issues. Hope that’s helps answer your question
@@RapidAssualtTactics thank you, your info help me out a lot
@@oclaothug69 your welcome
Would you ever consider buying the 400 count balls & reselling them to your subscribers?
400 can’t of what ?
@@RapidAssualtTactics The Byrna Kinetic rounds with the logo.
@@danofiremano I could try 50ct packs I’ll run the numbers to see
So dont use 7 gram aluminum rounds?
No I wouldn’t go any higher than 4.6 gram in the sd ep and hd models for close up I always mix my mags up
You guys with the byrnas should try the hdr68 and order some DK Spencer custom kinetics 10.5 gram rounds they are absolutely crazy but speaking of byrna I love some good 7-11 gram ball it's perfect for the new LE model
I agree for the byrna LE but waiting on new version as for the heavier rounds over 8 gram the performance just isn’t there and had been known to cause damage to your bolt there too heavy and also you need to do a lot of exspensive mods to get the proper FPS out of 9-10 gram rounds just like the z rams those damage my bolt had to order new replacement
Got an LTL Bravo in addition to my Byrna... 500fps, 18J, .50 caliber, using aluminum rounds mixed with Pepperball rounds (I checked with Chiappa, the manufacturer and they said the barrel is high quality metal so aluminum rounds won't hurt it at all) and it works great as a daily carry for me here in AZ. The hdr68 is a great launcher and it's very versatile, but I just can't get past the butt cap for some reason lol. There are so many good self defense launchers on the market today and better ones being developed each year. It'll be interesting to see what comes out in 2024.
@Joreel yea I’m actually looking to find a AEA pistol can’t find them can only find the rifles
Byrna is preaching any ammo other than what they make will ruin their launchers. Hmmm?
@krr91766 that is true but also not true , while my launchers are under warranty I use there ammo but once out warranty I’ve used from 2.8G to 10G rounds never had any issues . But if you want best performance in the LE SD EP and HD there ammo is best option I wouldn’t go higher then 3.7 G that’s if up close using them .
Hi thanks for the content need a little help in choosing out of the duke glass breaker or a homewreaker/jawbreaker 3.7 gm the one you are using is 4.5 gram . So asking out of the 3.75 gram glass breaker or jaw breaker which one would you chose ? Thanks again
Busting balls homewreker definitely
Appreciate that ⚡️ thank you for your time and reply . Amazing work your doing
@WETPAINT-ty6gq thanks 🙏
What do you think about the 7 gram aluminum rounds ?
Those will ruin the aluminum bolt and can over time take a toll on a steel bolt