Here's the thing though. Tim is legitimately wrong about this, because, if you look at the poster (and don't just get your opinions from websites, but actually watch the VHS tapes from the archives) it's clearly set in San Francisco. I dunno, I'm trying not to lose my temper here, but you Timheads are starting to seem all the same. I'm trying to reach out. Cross the aisle so to speak. Don't watch pirated movies guys.
William Shatner blocked me on Twitter over this topic last night because he forgot which movie was which. I don't blame him, he's the one making the movies and it's hard to see the forest through the trees from his POV. Mr. Shatner, I will be honored for you to let me follow you again on Twitter as soon as you accept the plotlines of your movies! ❤️
There should be a new segment where Greg visits piracy criminals in jail to give em’ hell... and maybe a tiny pair of handcuffs they can attach to their keys to remind them of their betrayal to the movie industry.
I admit i was worried watching the first few pieces that maybe Gregg isn’t the expert I thought he was. But that all changed when I saw the last segment where Gregg went to San Francisco and finally proved beyond a doubt that he was right all allong. You can’t deny what you see with your very eyes. Thanks Gregg thanks Peter Jackson!
You know, Tim's character is a worse person than me, you, or just about anyone for that matter. But, that being said, it's outright saintly to abstain from bashing Gregg with a copy of the Star Trek IV novelization.
I can't believe someone who can't tell the difference between San Fransisco and Space thinks they have a chance of getting elected, what a monster. #NOTMYDA
Star Trek II is great, but my favourite will always be Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. I'll always love that scene where Kirk asks what God would do with a starship.
That Star Trek tape was obviously pirated because the title is wrong. The real title is "Star Trek IV: And the Legend Continues." "The Voyage Home" is an animated film about pets, voiced by Michael J. Fox and Don Ameche.
the best part is that i've never seen any star trek thing ever, so i have absolutely no clue which of them is right i'm gonna go with tim because he beat 20 counts of murder charges, therefore he is trustworthy
@@HannibalOrJustRex Hey as owner of this channel how have you not deleted and moderated this comment, and banned this idiot from your channel? Gregg is CLEARLY right
"Gregg needs to BACK DOWN. Tim will STAND HIS GROUND as he has the RIGHT to. HEI network would be wise and a lot of people, beautiful people are saying that Gregg is a baaaad guy. I'm not gonna sit here and say that myself but a lot of people, good people. In fact a lot of beautiful great Americans agree with me a lot on this and If Gregg is paying attention he should figure it out REAL QUICK." - Donald Trump
Here's the thing though. Tim is legitimately wrong about this, because, if you look at the poster (and don't just get your opinions from websites, but actually watch the VHS tapes from the archives) it's clearly set in San Francisco. I dunno, I'm trying not to lose my temper here, but you Timheads are starting to seem all the same. I'm trying to reach out. Cross the aisle so to speak. Don't watch pirated movies guys.
_"That's just a catalogue number. It doesn't mean anything."_
My heart skipped a beat when he said that.
It's not an officially sanctioned VFA catalogue number so Gregg's right, it doesn't mean anything.
@@ethzero you're on thin ice.
Gregg needs to be prosecuted for lying under oath.
You can say that again!!!!!
Gregg did nothing wrong (unlike Tim who killed 20 kids)
But he's technically right, no? There were scenes actually "set in San Francisco" I thought.
@@garysheehan5907 that's for the courts to decide
5:40 "no because it's... have you seen The Hobbit?"
Never miss a chance to bring up Hobbit.
I just love that Gregg CANNOT admit that he's wrong.
He proved it at the end of this video. Case close
Not being able to admit you are wrong when you are right is actually a good thing
Here's the thing though. Tim is legitimately wrong about this, because, if you look at the poster (and don't just get your opinions from websites, but actually watch the VHS tapes from the archives) it's clearly set in San Francisco. I dunno, I'm trying not to lose my temper here, but you Timheads are starting to seem all the same. I'm trying to reach out. Cross the aisle so to speak. Don't watch pirated movies guys.
Flat earther of movies
@@jimreily7538 ima Timhead but I gotta admit the vhs cover is a pretty compelling argument.
I’m still on the fence..
Love that the whole thing could be resolved by just watching the movies together.
Tim would absolutely swap the labels on the tapes.
I mean, yeah. That’s the joke.
Problem is Gregg would probably use his homemade pirated tapes. Anything could be on those tapes!
@@chileo1 Gregg undergoes painstaking research to make sure each cassette admitted into the VFA is officially sanctioned and not pirated.
This is kind of a classic disagreement in terms of film criticism.
William Shatner blocked me on Twitter over this topic last night because he forgot which movie was which. I don't blame him, he's the one making the movies and it's hard to see the forest through the trees from his POV. Mr. Shatner, I will be honored for you to let me follow you again on Twitter as soon as you accept the plotlines of your movies! ❤️
He just misses C3PO
@@mister_recker 🤦 No, that's *William* Shatner from Battlestar Galactica
“Crew must Kurt Kirk must tuh true crew ... Kirk and his crew must travel back in time to 1986 ....”
There should be a new segment where Greg visits piracy criminals in jail to give em’ hell... and maybe a tiny pair of handcuffs they can attach to their keys to remind them of their betrayal to the movie industry.
This video needs to be updated with the footage from the trial of tim heidecker.
Yes, I gotta find a way to do that. Tim will probably go to prison for perjury if this argument gets fully investigated in court
4:00 should have happened long ago
Probably because the person who compiled this is a Greg head
5:34 The Hobbit defense is pretty compelling
Boy, this is just a real treat for the Trek Heads out there, and a little bit of fun for just about anybody!
I'm not convinced either way but I'm leaning more towards Star Trek II being the San Francisco one.
Do some more research and you'll change your mind.
That's just your opinion.
In my opinion Wrath of Kahn is where they search for spock, the one after is where they're in San Francisco
I respect Tim as a host, but why would California be considered Spock's home? He's from outer space. Gregg is the buff for a reason.
If that was true, then why was Kirk conceived on SETI ALPHA 6 and then born on Regula I ?
Isnt spock half human?
Ultimately Tim is right despite having haircuts to the contrary.
Underrated comment.
tim just brought it back up in the court case hahaha
I admit i was worried watching the first few pieces that maybe Gregg isn’t the expert I thought he was. But that all changed when I saw the last segment where Gregg went to San Francisco and finally proved beyond a doubt that he was right all allong. You can’t deny what you see with your very eyes. Thanks Gregg thanks Peter Jackson!
9:46 Gets 1 answer right and says "we're on a roll" 🤣🤣
I'm so glad this compilation exists
4:00 foreshadowing. shoutout to Mark
I like how the first Star Trek movie only takes about 40 pages of the book
You know, Tim's character is a worse person than me, you, or just about anyone for that matter. But, that being said, it's outright saintly to abstain from bashing Gregg with a copy of the Star Trek IV novelization.
5:40 Have you seen the Hobbit?
The point about the 59th page should have settled it all.
If only there was a way to settle this debate, I guess we'll never know which Star Trek movie took place in San Francisco.
I can't believe someone who can't tell the difference between San Fransisco and Space thinks they have a chance of getting elected, what a monster. #NOTMYDA
Star Trek II is great, but my favourite will always be Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. I'll always love that scene where Kirk asks what God would do with a starship.
🤯
The truth is every Star Trek film except V has scenes in San Francisco.
That Star Trek tape was obviously pirated because the title is wrong. The real title is "Star Trek IV: And the Legend Continues."
"The Voyage Home" is an animated film about pets, voiced by Michael J. Fox and Don Ameche.
“I fired you from the show last season because of this..”
this may be the closest they've come to breaking during the VHS comparison
"Well, this is a pirated video too..."
"...you go to jail for piracy, and you should."
One of my favorite On Cinema episodes
gregg got him with that piracy comment 🤣
10:16
I love how this back and forth accumulated to this moment
the best part is that i've never seen any star trek thing ever, so i have absolutely no clue which of them is right
i'm gonna go with tim because he beat 20 counts of murder charges, therefore he is trustworthy
Spock gets stabbed by a punk rocker on a bus in Los Angeles in Star Trek 2
@John Hillman Have you seen The Hobbit?
Gregg is so good at this that you can’t help but to get frustrated at his thick headedness 😂
both are correct about San Francisco... Gregg was wrong when he said "Home" was the space. CUT
11:23 I like to imagine that Gregg wanted his name to be written as "Turklingon" in reference to the feature film, but forgot to put in the L
BOOOOOOO!!! *throws popcorn*
Tim's hollywood connections and production company were able to mock up a very realistic videotape box
God bless you for uploading this. This is just gold!
#TrustTheBuff
Lol the quiz was such a good idea
Thanks gregg and tim for bringing this argument to mind and making me just a little more interested in the original star trek film stuff thanks
lol i love how the pic in the beginning is photoshopped
when are they finally going to watch the movie together?
Tim hasn't thought of that. Yet.
when he asked "have you seen the hobbit", I felt that
Gold if Tim would have bought in a Star Trek DVD instead of VHS.
The stills at the end are from STAR TREK 4!!! Gregg is lying through his teeth and manipulating video.
This is slander. Please delete
@@HannibalOrJustRex Hey as owner of this channel how have you not deleted and moderated this comment, and banned this idiot from your channel? Gregg is CLEARLY right
gregg is fricken great lol
Thank god for film buffs like Gregg Kington
Case. Closed
:12.08 That public sign actually read ATM Machine.
"Gregg needs to BACK DOWN. Tim will STAND HIS GROUND as he has the RIGHT to. HEI network would be wise and a lot of people, beautiful people are saying that Gregg is a baaaad guy. I'm not gonna sit here and say that myself but a lot of people, good people. In fact a lot of beautiful great Americans agree with me a lot on this and If Gregg is paying attention he should figure it out REAL QUICK." - Donald Trump
Well, I guess Gregg could just watch the movie. I mean, that's his thing, right? Movie buff.
They really needed to disagree to disagree 🖖🏼
It's gonna be somewhere around page 59
Gregg is insufferable. IT'S OBVIOUS TIM IS CORRECT. GREGG.
I'm in way, shape or form a Greggghead, but he IS the film buff on this show. You have just got to bow to his vast knowledge
Gregg drove Tim from the Golden Gate to Rio Genesis, and he doesn't realize it.
team tim on this issue
I looked it up and Tim was right lololol
Well your wrong I'm right....
10:16 pause . And paus 11:57 . Same outfits
This is so damn good
All of this could have solved with a simple Google search.
I cringe if Gregg thinks *Star Trek I* is *Star Trek V* .
I thought Star Trek 4 was the first in the series.
I believe in Gregg via he is my father.
Andfathers must be believed.
I’ve always like this debate but I can’t do 12 minutes of it lol
Here's the thing though. Tim is legitimately wrong about this, because, if you look at the poster (and don't just get your opinions from websites, but actually watch the VHS tapes from the archives) it's clearly set in San Francisco. I dunno, I'm trying not to lose my temper here, but you Timheads are starting to seem all the same. I'm trying to reach out. Cross the aisle so to speak. Don't watch pirated movies guys.