Iron Pyrite, also known as fools gold. That's what that is. The lure of "cash infusion" may entice some (especially for those lacking resources) until you realize Private Equity is giving you an advancement on future earnings. A for-profit entity is going to act as a middle man, essentially giving credit to universities so they can make a profit off of the interest. Whoever said this was smart is beyond ignorant. A natural gap is forming in college football. Those on the wrong side of this natural gap are fighting to stay with the top half of the power conferences. Instead of the G5 & P5, it's trending towards Group of 6, Power 2, & Super 2. It's not going to be the end of college football. There will just be different rules for each group that works best for that financial range. If the B1G & SEC decide to pay its athletes $30M - $50M of the TV revenue annually. That rule couldn't apply to the ACC or Big12. Boosters and collectives will still be around to add icing on the cake. And an advancement on future earnings isn't needed to complicate things. These gaps are needed, in my opinion. Having 134+ teams all competing for the same championship with 12 regular season games is BEYOND UNREALISTIC! And that's IF everything was equal. But it's not. So it makes even less sense. The problem right now is money. Some want a socialistic approach, where the "big boys" share with everyone. Some want the capitalistic approach, where you keep what you can generate. The problem is that the "big boys" feel like they are doing the socialistic approach, just within it's own conference. That's as far as their generosity goes. That's the hard truth. Like it or not.
What makes college football special is that is it not a closed league. Little teams like Troy compete for the same trophy as teams like Alabama. College football is fans showing up to support their teams no matter their size. College football is special because it was not some pro league with the intention of making money, greed is going to ruin the sport we love. College football will one day just be minor league NFL.
What r u talking about? no team on troys level has ever played for a national Championship and cf has been the Greediest sports league ever these schools have been playing for 100 years and yet haven't given players a dime of those profits but they did give us the Privilege of paying their players
@@Bbbmurr Army won several. IVY League schools were dominate winning a lot of the titles. A lot of teams used to be in a power conference that are not anymore. Chattanooga was in the same conference with the ACC and SEC schools back before schools left to form what we call SoCon. Then the SoCon schools broke away to form the ACC and SEC. University of Chicago was a former Big 10 member. Tulane and Sewanee were members of the SEC. Colorado State, Colorado College, Denver, Wyoming, Montana State, Utah State, Northern Colorado, Colorado Mines and Colorado Western were in the same conference with Colorado, Utah and BYU. Border Conference had UTEP, Arizona, Arizona State, Northern Arizona, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Texas Tech, West Texas A&M, Hardin Simmons and Trinity Texas. Idaho and Montana were former PAC 10 members. As it is, a lot of the schools that they are leaving behind now are very large universities and colleges where you would lose money. Many of these schools including the 72 teams would be losing money if they leave these schools out.
nah. SEC and Disney already monopolized it. Finance bros are just presenting the obvious. The universities don’t need private equity to do this. It’s just common sense to organize it this way.
I have observed many things absolutely destroyed when complete control and say is given to financial investment firms. Yes they have sway but not the absolute final say in university business when it comes to collegiate sports. They mostly are the marketing and the broadcasting arm, but they have no say in how universities interact. This would change that. Just from initial looks.
This would turn college football into a full, money focused pro league. It would detach revenue sports further from the actual schools, and it would nuke every non power conference sports program. It would destroy the entire college sports landscape
@@JetUranus I have some problems with NIL and the portal. Revenue sharing crap is also a huge issue. Looking only at Football and Basketball, it’s all great, but other student athletes often suffer from recent rule changes focused on giving football players “what they deserve”
Good. Non-revenue sports and non-power conference programs simply shouldn’t exist as they currently do, sorry not sorry. The point of sports is to win championships. The non power teams are never doing that. And no one cares about the random sports.
Super conferences are incredibly short sighted. Georgia/Ohio State sounds cool, but in 5 years, it'd just be another league game. College football lives off the rivalry model.
Nope. India and the IPL and influencing the general expansion of franchise T20 leagues has basically ruined the game. I'm close to done with it and it's been a huge part of my life
@tsushima7476They're fucking up college football in the same year that they fixed it, now that G5 schools can actually make and win a National title the power conferences are trying to force them out. This bullshit right here is why I didn't watch until now, so much bias towards these big schools that it's actually disgusting.
The idea of getting crazy big time matchups that feel like playoff games in the regular season is ridiculous. Those games would only feel like that the first few years. Once the "big boys" all play each other all the time and no longer play "cupcakes" during the regular season... And they play them with regularity... Some "big boys" will end up not having that status anymore since Someone has to lose games and Someone has to finish at the bottom. If a program implodes on a regular basis they could end up being the "cupcakes" that the other "big boys" beat up on. Kinda like the (maybe temporary) implosion of Florida State this current season.
It's like interleague play in baseball. Everyone wanted to see the Dodgers and Yankees play each other. Now it's completely uninteresting when it used to be a once in a lifetime matchup
Yup. I think there are definitely traditional blue bloods who would turn into middling or nobody teams. They’re bringing about their own downfall though 🤷♂️
Hell no to this. Too many of y'all want to focus on big time matchups and broader market appeal, and blatantly ignore what actually makes college sports great. It's about the pageantry, pride, traditions, and most importantly, the students. Upending rivalries and traditions in the name of money WILL destroy not just CFB but every college sport, because remember, other sports are sucked into these realignments too. And for what? So a few execs at the top can rake in more money, while screwing all of us over? I'm telling y'all right now that we have to fight against such a concept and preserve what makes college sports great.
How many students that are sports fans are going to want to go to a college with no football team? Or a team that’s so insignificant they’ll never play any exciting/meaningful games? The allure of going to the schools that are going to get killed will be severely damaged due to lack of sports, and I could see lawsuits coming that stop this super league from ever happening for that reason. It becomes seriously personal when the number of applicants to your school goes down as a result of bigger football programs killing your own.
Hardcore fans say this but G5 beating a blue blood never gets big ratings. Most people don’t want to waste their time on the small chance of a massive upset.
They aren’t even treated that way now. At this point these players’ “major” is football. And you know what? I am perfectly fine with that. College’s main purpose is job training. They’re training for pro football.
@@jasonfire3434 Yes, but even at the top level only a small % make any life changing money in the NFL. There should still be some job training for a backup plan.
@@dgart7434 I mean that’s no different than liberal arts/humanities majors, very few of them end up actually getting a career in what they studied. The real problem is there are too many colleges and too many people going to college in general, and in sports there are too many programs with athletic departments. We only need the top 40-50 at most.
They'd need to have a system of promotions and demotions, like soccer. Also, it is a purely honor thing with me as a Texan, Houston, not in the Texas division. That just ain't right.
@tsushima7476 correction: the people currently holding the power wouldn’t like it. 😂 Sankey’s already out there thumping his chest that the SEC is already a super league.
Well yes and no. The biggest problem for any super league is getting the anti-trust exemption. the NCAA has notoriously been sued on multiple occasions by the federal government for violating federal anti-trust laws. So any new league you create outside of the NCAA will almost immediately get hit by this as well, and theres A LOT OF EVIDENCE that college football has been corrupt af for a very long time. The absolute worst thing you could possibly get when creating a new league is a DOJ mult-billion dollar lawsuit shoved down your throat. A league will all teams that would complain and potentially launch this type of lawsuit, plus appealing to congress to get an exemption is the best way to circumvent this problem. However, for reasons that bewilder me this super league doesnt take BSU, which seems like a very grave oversight. BSU is a small school - so who cares. Well one problem might be that they were one of the 4 programs who both sued the league and got their state government and congressional representatives to SUE THE FREAKING LEAGUE in 2009-2012. There aint a lot going on at BSU other than football, so if this league tries to take that away from them you best believe the little potato eaters are going to flay you alive for every penny your worth with the most damaging lawsuits possible if they go through with this concept.
1) They should allow 1 optional game vs G5/FCS to preserve local games. 2) No permanent members of Tier 1. Give them 5 auto boosts instead (They stay tier 1 for the first 5 years they deserve to drop to tier 2) 3) They need to make sure the payscale is regressive. (The Tier 1 gets paid a lower percentage of their earnings, and Tier 3 gets paid a higher percentage of their earnings) This will encourage parity and benefit the sport in the long haul.
I second the suggestion of no tiers. There should be a set amount given to every school and then a set incentive amount that schools would receive for their play on the field along with an incentive for viewership numbers. I also agree that there should be one game for a G5/FCS school. I also don’t think there should be any conferences in this super league, there should be a committee that will make the schedules for all the schools with the exception that all rivalry games are protected and played every year. I also think that games should be kept as regional as possible. This would also only apply to football for all other sports the conferences today would still exist.
Only 8 in the Big Money Club. To stay there you must not finish last 2 years in a row or in the bottom half 4 years in a row. The replacement teams need to have the most points based on criteria to be determined; such as wins, strength of schedule & how they performed recently.
Radical theory: being college sports back to scholarship only status or like the Ivy League and make it for those who just wanna play and get an education. Then, form an actual professional league system like MiLB or the G-League. Gets those wanting money the chance to go pro, keeps a competitive balance, builds out more professional football teams. Something a country of 330 million is lacking by only having 32 professional teams
The reality is realignment, NIL, and tv contracts are pushing this inevitable conclusion. College football was always AAA NFL football. It isn’t really hidden anymore, as it always was. The inevitable conclusion is that this goes the way of the premier league and that it’s no longer colleges, but semi-pro teams competing on their tier. It feels weird, but when you remove the amateur nature of CFB, you remove the schools entirely. It’s where it’s going.
The current system has gotta change.....UCLA playing, regularly, against.....RUTGERS!? You can't really get LESS "regional" than that. UCLA/USC don't even play Stanford anymore, it seems!?
This would just make college football look like any professional league. It would destroy some of the entertainment of upsets, and absolutely demolishes competition for all other colleges
Im in favor of a separation if there is promotion and relegation built in. And no protected relegation for any school. Let's be honest if Georgia and Alabama can't manage their rosters to be dominant with the resources they have, they don't deserve to be tier one.
Makes sense to me. Super league teams have to be fluid. The top tier of super league should not be static. Right now I only watch ACC. If this happens, I will watch all 72. Currently, P5 vs G5 games are dumb. SEC/Big10 being pushed as if I care is dumb. I like rivalry games, regional divisions, and equality but with incentive to be the best.
Would be an absolute crime not to have BOISE STATE included. And I don’t think you can have navy in this new model at all. Or any service school for that matter. They can’t recruit like everyone else can etc etc. . I say replace them with the likes of North Dakota State, Marshall, MTSU, or Southern Miss. Obviously you wouldn’t put any of those teams outside Marshall in the Eastern Division geographically speaking but the statement still stands. Also, having Notre Dame in the East doesn’t make much sense considering they’re in northern Indiana. Not to mention it’s a super weak conference to begin with, outside of Virginia Tech (no disrespect to the other teams). Ironically enough Notre Dame would be extremely satisfied in that division as it would be super easy for them, which is just how they like it. In reality though, they need to be in either the Great Lakes or Midwest Division as geographically it makes way more sense as well as it would put them in direct competition with the big dogs week in and week out. It would be insane for the Irish to go play in Boston or Charlottesville when they could travel a lot shorter distance and play way better competition in Columbus or Ann Arbor.
What would make more sense is a 120 team super league. Add in some g5 teams, make the conferences somewhat geographical but adjust them to spread out the best teams. This way they would be favorites for the playoffs. Realign the conferences every 5 years or so.
Kstate is in the top 5of the new Big12 in terms of football brand power and they're an all time top 25 men's basketball program. Zero chance that they'd get left out, especially considering how good their football is.
The top half of the now heavily depleted/backfilled new BIG12 doesn't mean much, sorry. Very few basketball programs have high enough value, and IOWAST isn't one of them. Even UCONN appears to not make that cut.
This works for me. I had been saying how a 4 Super Conferences League, with each having 16 Teams, and getting back to a somewhat regional distribution between the 4 conferences.
If they create a super conference, don't give bad teams a free pass just because they were in a power conference or have a history of winning, but are now losing.
Cool concept… For FCS schools not included in the super league, it would be cool if teams could earn their way into 1 division of the super league. In order to stay in the division you have to remain in the top 5. Similar concept to soccer.
How is Memphis a bigger (TV?) market than Oregon St and WSU? They both have larger TV markets in Portland/Willamette Valley & Seattle/Spokane, more students, more living alumni, higher endowments and rank higher than Memphis in multiple areas. I don't mean to slight Memphis by any means but please help me understand. FWIW, I'd like to see Memphis &/or Tulane join the Pac 12. Lastly, it would be criminal to omit Boise St from a football super league!
You have to figure there are some P-4 schools that might be jettisoned in favor of G-5 schools that offer better things like locations, fan bases and TV markets. Purdue, WF, and Mississippi St traded for Memphis, SDSU and Boise are examples of this.
Any separate Tier 1 will be ~48 members and won't include any recently elevated or lingering G5s. Also unlikely to include any school that didn't make an original P5 cut. All upper rights will likely be included if willing.
College football is fun to watch, but the current conference system sucks, in this proposed super league is even worse. The only thing I would support is something that involves all teams being able to compete and earn positions to a national championship bracket.
Personally, I actually love this idea for a College Football Super League. It works. My only requests are as follows: 1: Put Air Force, Army & Navy in their own U.S. Military Division, and let those academies remain independent even in the new league. 2: Please put Boise State in the Super League as well. Boise State has shown that they can play with the Big Boys. Don’t shut the Broncos out. Other than that, everything is great.
I love the relegation system idea so if one of the original 70 doesn't spend to complete then move them down and allow a team eager to join to compete.
Id be onboard if say after the season the bottom ten drop out joining the outside conferences. Then the conference winners of the bottom conferences join the super league. Tgat would give smaller schools a chance. This would still give tgat college feel to the whole thing. Also seperates the winning programs from the chaffee.
Ultimately ESPN wanted the B10 and SEC are working to be the top 2 that play each other for a championship at the end of the year. The BIG XII is the only thing that stopped them. The ACC will go down next. if the BIG XII was smart they’d merge with the ACC here and now, have two division within the conference and practice relegation to add interest to the league.
Huh? a) The BIG12 has already lost its top members. It's now relatively disposable. b) The ACC/ND has the only high value members that are keeping the SEC/B1G from a clean break from the rest. c) There is no reason for the ACC to dilute via a merger with the already Tier 2 BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 ok Tar Heel fan..guess you dint have a clue about what’s been going on..the ACC is the current bottomed dweller in CFB and was the conference that was going to be decimated when the pac12 implosion happened..the B12 just expanded..there WILL BE 2 conferences in the future that make up one league..the B12 expansion a few years ago thwarted the entire process of B10 & SEC super conference operating outside the NCAA cartel, the B12, ACC & P12 we’re going to form a second division with the AAC and there would be 2 national championships. I feel like you haven’t been paying attention the last 20 years
All I wanted to have was the playoffs with brackets for the top 25 teams at the end of the year to allow a more fair and credible shot for small programs to win. I didn’t want some exclusive BS meant to box everyone else out with only two conferences getting like 65% of the brackets no matter what.
This is a classic sounds good on paper but will be poor in practice. This is taking the sport and college out of it and focusing on the money and marketing. This soulless, financial grab is pathetic and short sited. We can do better. I like the option for relegation or 75 team pool. Hate tier 1 concept explained…. That’s trash and my favorite team would qualify 😆 Disney having interest in it is enough for me to walk away
My main question is would teams like Northwestern or Mississippi State get grandfathered in simply because they are in the SEC and BG10 right now? Or will they get demoted/kicked out of the super league?
Fine, have a super league if you must, but determining membership better restart at square one and NOT automatically have every team in the Big Ten and SEC simply because those schools are fortunate enough to be in those money conferences right now (think Purdue, for example). I know this next part likely can't be done, but if teams are being denied the big TV money of super conference participation these 'excluded teams' (Purdue to continue the example) should at least be given a chance somehow to play their way into membership the following year. Conversely, the same number of teams at the bottom should also be at risk to drop out of the super league -- like it's done in European soccer or wherever.
The solution for FCS is obvious at least to me. Have them play the power schools in a scrimmage to save the revenue model. Either pre-season or Spring game.
How can they sit here and act like this conference is about competition, and then leave out the school that has the 6th best career record in the league?
UConn has the largest TV market in the country (NYC to Boston) and back to back BB championships. The FB team is 4-2 this year and much improved. I’d like to see them included.
It's about a super league around football not basketball. Congrats on being 4-2 but I doubt the viewership on the football games are in the top 100. This concept of a power 1 conference is laughable.
12 6-team conferences would probably have 5 "confeence" games and 7 non-conference games? How would that work? Who would schedule the non-conference games? Right now, individual school so that scheduling. But, 3-4 games are easier to schedule than 7 every year. This needs more work to fly.
I think it’s hilarious that 8 schools would be protected from relegation. Why? Forget about “fairness” - what is the rationale behind having 8 sacred (Longhorn) cows?
You know those left out are going to sue and almost certainly win and the big guys know that, this is why they give the final big bowl game spot to the "best of the rest" and why now they will get playoff spot. These guys know they would almost certainly lose in court and Congress would probably act against them as well, most Americans hate an elitist bully, including me and I am an alum of one of the richest top teams there is.
How is Boise State left out but Syracuse, Rutgers, Kentucky, Kansas, Boston College, Memphis, SMU, Vanderbilt, and Maryland are left in? I hate their blue field as much as the next guy, but it's insane to drop them and essentially promote these never-rans.
To be fair to SMU they really arent this narrative. The death penalty caused 30 years of damage to their program and pre late 80s SMU was arguably the 2nd best team of the SWC only behind Texas.
Re-regionalizing the sport is a good thing. But the expanded playoff keeps the urgency of the regular season a distant memory, which is the other aspect that made college football special. 1/2 is a great batting average, but and F on the report card.
Not going to fly since they may expand it to have to add a school for each areas. Fresno State, UNR, San Diego State, Wyoming, Boise State, Air Force and Hawaii out of the MWC all have good football teams. Some of them were in the WAC, and they usually get good ratings for being on ESPN. There were talks of FBS as a whole breaking away from the rest of D1 for all sports. I think the top FCS schools would be added to FBS, and several G5 schools would join the P4. Plus, the top basketball brands and baseball teams from the non-football schools. I do think some D2 schools in large populated areas could fit in. Plus, if you leave out states, and schools? You may have politicians get involved to start and anti-trust against the break away league. It would also be anti-interstate business as well. Many communities would be hurting without the money from the fans from the P4 coming to their cities. Someone pointed out? Why would the large fanbases like Boise State, Fresno State, USF, ECU, Tulane, App State, etc want to watch those 72 teams when their team is not included? What if local tv stations decide to boycott and refuse to air those 72 teams on their channels when they have no teams in their state not invited? What cities would refuse to air UCLA and USC games in California when their hometown team not invited? San Diego, Fresno, San Jose and Sacramento. I could go on and on what I think would be a disaster coming. We do have less west coast schools mainly west of the Mississippi as it is.
Too large. This realignment is a contraction via consolidation. The BIG and SEC have already consolidated all of the higher value schools outside of the ACC and ND, so what's their incentive to scatter them back out?
The only way i would support a super league is if they had a relegation system for teams that dont want to invest/compete vs up and coming schools that want to
Bringing monopolies to cfb. For those who remember attending Econ. monopolies have been proven bad even though our economy continues to allow them to happen over and over and over.... Cut off the FCS and you eliminate CC football also. Very few kids even on the best teams will have a chance at playing in college.HS football players will lose interest. The league eventually dies due to lack of players. Private Equity and Disney you have successfully killed again. People are dumb. Greed is the enemy. We are supposed to learn from are repeated mistakes.
I don’t agree with this model that leaves out so many schools, communities, and even states from the discussion. Huge regions of the country would feel disenfranchised. This model would lose support (viewership->$) from the disenfranchised because it would not seem like true meritocracy especially in the new era of NIL! Seems like the biggest and “blue-blood” schools are afraid of losing some of their clout to smaller schools who currently benefit from some aspects of NIL.
First part I 100% agree with. The second part, not so much. The 12 Team Playoff will improve the sport as a whole and it will give the underdog schools a legitimate shot.
@troybaxter yall don't get it. The "underdog" teams will never win because first their not deep enough to compete against all them teams. Second ncaa not letting that title go to a school that don't have a trophy in the past
I looked at that 72 team Super Conference/Super League... And it had a huge mistake in it. Army was nowhere to be found. Not even down in the lower division. How can you can have Navy without Army? How can you leave out Army COMPLETELY? I'm not even sure I saw Air Force. SMH. (And yes I wrote this before you mentioned it. lol.)
What are your thoughts on thew "Super League Proposal"?
Think it will fail.
This will never go through without promotion/relegation to the lower divisions. Or at least some type of way for the top teams to play the lower teams
Oregon state just needs to be in
I HATE THIS THOUGHT OF A 70 TEAM CONFRENCE
Iron Pyrite, also known as fools gold. That's what that is. The lure of "cash infusion" may entice some (especially for those lacking resources) until you realize Private Equity is giving you an advancement on future earnings. A for-profit entity is going to act as a middle man, essentially giving credit to universities so they can make a profit off of the interest. Whoever said this was smart is beyond ignorant.
A natural gap is forming in college football. Those on the wrong side of this natural gap are fighting to stay with the top half of the power conferences. Instead of the G5 & P5, it's trending towards Group of 6, Power 2, & Super 2. It's not going to be the end of college football. There will just be different rules for each group that works best for that financial range.
If the B1G & SEC decide to pay its athletes $30M - $50M of the TV revenue annually. That rule couldn't apply to the ACC or Big12. Boosters and collectives will still be around to add icing on the cake. And an advancement on future earnings isn't needed to complicate things.
These gaps are needed, in my opinion. Having 134+ teams all competing for the same championship with 12 regular season games is BEYOND UNREALISTIC! And that's IF everything was equal. But it's not. So it makes even less sense.
The problem right now is money. Some want a socialistic approach, where the "big boys" share with everyone. Some want the capitalistic approach, where you keep what you can generate. The problem is that the "big boys" feel like they are doing the socialistic approach, just within it's own conference. That's as far as their generosity goes. That's the hard truth. Like it or not.
What makes college football special is that is it not a closed league. Little teams like Troy compete for the same trophy as teams like Alabama. College football is fans showing up to support their teams no matter their size. College football is special because it was not some pro league with the intention of making money, greed is going to ruin the sport we love. College football will one day just be minor league NFL.
As a Troy grad I support this comment!!
@@bravefalcon1970 i love troy i totally agree
What r u talking about? no team on troys level has ever played for a national Championship and cf has been the Greediest sports league ever these schools have been playing for 100 years and yet haven't given players a dime of those profits but they did give us the Privilege of paying their players
@@BbbmurrBYU wasn’t always a Power 5 team and they won a national championship when they were still in the WAC
@@Bbbmurr Army won several. IVY League schools were dominate winning a lot of the titles. A lot of teams used to be in a power conference that are not anymore. Chattanooga was in the same conference with the ACC and SEC schools back before schools left to form what we call SoCon. Then the SoCon schools broke away to form the ACC and SEC. University of Chicago was a former Big 10 member. Tulane and Sewanee were members of the SEC. Colorado State, Colorado College, Denver, Wyoming, Montana State, Utah State, Northern Colorado, Colorado Mines and Colorado Western were in the same conference with Colorado, Utah and BYU. Border Conference had UTEP, Arizona, Arizona State, Northern Arizona, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Texas Tech, West Texas A&M, Hardin Simmons and Trinity Texas. Idaho and Montana were former PAC 10 members. As it is, a lot of the schools that they are leaving behind now are very large universities and colleges where you would lose money. Many of these schools including the 72 teams would be losing money if they leave these schools out.
This is basically just finance bros monopolizing college football
more so than they already have
@@greenwave819lol you beat me to it.
nah. SEC and Disney already monopolized it. Finance bros are just presenting the obvious. The universities don’t need private equity to do this. It’s just common sense to organize it this way.
It can't be worse than the current system. The current system is both unfair, unbalanced, and sloppy.
I have observed many things absolutely destroyed when complete control and say is given to financial investment firms. Yes they have sway but not the absolute final say in university business when it comes to collegiate sports. They mostly are the marketing and the broadcasting arm, but they have no say in how universities interact. This would change that. Just from initial looks.
This would turn college football into a full, money focused pro league. It would detach revenue sports further from the actual schools, and it would nuke every non power conference sports program. It would destroy the entire college sports landscape
Might as well make it where the athletes don’t even have to enroll in classes either. I don’t like it at all. I DO like NIL and the portal though.
@@JetUranus I have some problems with NIL and the portal. Revenue sharing crap is also a huge issue. Looking only at Football and Basketball, it’s all great, but other student athletes often suffer from recent rule changes focused on giving football players “what they deserve”
And it would die. It would essentially become minor league football. And we know how successful minor league sports are.
Good. Non-revenue sports and non-power conference programs simply shouldn’t exist as they currently do, sorry not sorry. The point of sports is to win championships. The non power teams are never doing that. And no one cares about the random sports.
Essentially ruining the spirit to maximize profits.
I wouldn’t be closed off to the idea. But the simple detail of Disney being involved makes me immediately not want it.
yeah we don't want this to be further rigged into a popularity contest. The NFL is already unwatchable
Lol, you do realize what Disney already owns, right?
Disney will make it so each tam needs at least 3 gay players. 😂
Lol exactly the minute I heard Disney I said I don't need the details it's gonna b trash
Isn’t it former Disney employees? Wouldn’t that mean Disney corp would be uninvolved?
Super conferences are incredibly short sighted. Georgia/Ohio State sounds cool, but in 5 years, it'd just be another league game. College football lives off the rivalry model.
This is what club owners tried to do in Europe with soccer. Fans protested and everyone backed out from the idea.
Fuck Europe and fuck soccer
Wasn't that only 12 teams?
That super league would’ve only been 20 clubs. European fans are more united and ready to fight back. They have law on their side. This is the USA.
Amerifat fans are cucks for big business tho
@Lex_Lugar we have laws against monopolies
This Super league will leave a lot of teams behind including my team The Marshall Thundering Herd this is gonna ruin college football
ND is trying to stay away from teams that can beat them. notice NIU didn't make it either
@@greenwave819 Well they kinda f*cked up scheduling Boise State next year then......
No.just your team
@@Buddah_700 how about Toledo, Fresno State, App State, Boise State, Memphis, South Florida, East Carolina
@MichaelBias-fw8ti Memphis on the list with Oregon St and Washington st.
If this college "Super League" ever happens, then I am done... I guess I'll have to study up on the rules to cricket 🏏
Nope. India and the IPL and influencing the general expansion of franchise T20 leagues has basically ruined the game. I'm close to done with it and it's been a huge part of my life
Me too (except for the cricket part)
@tsushima7476They're fucking up college football in the same year that they fixed it, now that G5 schools can actually make and win a National title the power conferences are trying to force them out. This bullshit right here is why I didn't watch until now, so much bias towards these big schools that it's actually disgusting.
Leave it to Disney to maximize profits and undercut the little guys
If this happens, I’ll bet you the companies that sell pitchforks, torches, and guns will make more than enough to retire
The idea of getting crazy big time matchups that feel like playoff games in the regular season is ridiculous. Those games would only feel like that the first few years. Once the "big boys" all play each other all the time and no longer play "cupcakes" during the regular season... And they play them with regularity... Some "big boys" will end up not having that status anymore since Someone has to lose games and Someone has to finish at the bottom. If a program implodes on a regular basis they could end up being the "cupcakes" that the other "big boys" beat up on. Kinda like the (maybe temporary) implosion of Florida State this current season.
It's like interleague play in baseball. Everyone wanted to see the Dodgers and Yankees play each other. Now it's completely uninteresting when it used to be a once in a lifetime matchup
@@Homedepotorange Exactly. When something rare and awesome starts to happen on a regular basis... Then it becomes just Normal. lol.
Yup. I think there are definitely traditional blue bloods who would turn into middling or nobody teams. They’re bringing about their own downfall though 🤷♂️
I think location should be the important issue. Traveling to Stanford and to Cal when you’re Pitt seems ridiculous.
Big facts it's why I didn't really like the idea of some of the old pac 12 teams goin to the big 10 and especially the acc
@@johndavis9321 I don’t like there being a permanent tier 1, but if those are the divisions I’ll take it
Hell no to this. Too many of y'all want to focus on big time matchups and broader market appeal, and blatantly ignore what actually makes college sports great. It's about the pageantry, pride, traditions, and most importantly, the students. Upending rivalries and traditions in the name of money WILL destroy not just CFB but every college sport, because remember, other sports are sucked into these realignments too. And for what? So a few execs at the top can rake in more money, while screwing all of us over?
I'm telling y'all right now that we have to fight against such a concept and preserve what makes college sports great.
I can tell you this, the Southwest and West which is basically the old Pac 12 minus Colorado but adds BYU would be an awkward reunion.
lol accurate
Small schools LOSE their big paydays with power schools, thus devastating the smaller schools economically.
How many students that are sports fans are going to want to go to a college with no football team? Or a team that’s so insignificant they’ll never play any exciting/meaningful games? The allure of going to the schools that are going to get killed will be severely damaged due to lack of sports, and I could see lawsuits coming that stop this super league from ever happening for that reason. It becomes seriously personal when the number of applicants to your school goes down as a result of bigger football programs killing your own.
i like it except the smaller games/free wins that sometimes are upsets are the best part of some weeks
Hardcore fans say this but G5 beating a blue blood never gets big ratings. Most people don’t want to waste their time on the small chance of a massive upset.
@@Lex_Lugar Yet BSU vs OU is still top 10 all time highest nielsen ratings......
Why even call it college football at this point, these players aren't being treated as students.
They aren't real football clubs
They aren’t even treated that way now. At this point these players’ “major” is football. And you know what? I am perfectly fine with that. College’s main purpose is job training. They’re training for pro football.
@@jasonfire3434 Yes, but even at the top level only a small % make any life changing money in the NFL. There should still be some job training for a backup plan.
@@dgart7434 I mean that’s no different than liberal arts/humanities majors, very few of them end up actually getting a career in what they studied. The real problem is there are too many colleges and too many people going to college in general, and in sports there are too many programs with athletic departments. We only need the top 40-50 at most.
@@jasonfire3434Worst graduation rate in the country then.
They'd need to have a system of promotions and demotions, like soccer. Also, it is a purely honor thing with me as a Texan, Houston, not in the Texas division. That just ain't right.
Promotion/relegation would fix so much in college football.
oh come on, TX got one of the easiest pools, you don't need to water it down even more with Houston
@tsushima7476 correction: the people currently holding the power wouldn’t like it. 😂 Sankey’s already out there thumping his chest that the SEC is already a super league.
Also have a second tier playoff like UEFA has.
no it doesn't. This isn't soccer.
Big and Sec will not give up their power lol
Why would the sec or big 10 want this? They are in a position to form their own league under their own terms.
Well yes and no. The biggest problem for any super league is getting the anti-trust exemption. the NCAA has notoriously been sued on multiple occasions by the federal government for violating federal anti-trust laws. So any new league you create outside of the NCAA will almost immediately get hit by this as well, and theres A LOT OF EVIDENCE that college football has been corrupt af for a very long time. The absolute worst thing you could possibly get when creating a new league is a DOJ mult-billion dollar lawsuit shoved down your throat.
A league will all teams that would complain and potentially launch this type of lawsuit, plus appealing to congress to get an exemption is the best way to circumvent this problem. However, for reasons that bewilder me this super league doesnt take BSU, which seems like a very grave oversight. BSU is a small school - so who cares. Well one problem might be that they were one of the 4 programs who both sued the league and got their state government and congressional representatives to SUE THE FREAKING LEAGUE in 2009-2012. There aint a lot going on at BSU other than football, so if this league tries to take that away from them you best believe the little potato eaters are going to flay you alive for every penny your worth with the most damaging lawsuits possible if they go through with this concept.
1) They should allow 1 optional game vs G5/FCS to preserve local games.
2) No permanent members of Tier 1. Give them 5 auto boosts instead (They stay tier 1 for the first 5 years they deserve to drop to tier 2)
3) They need to make sure the payscale is regressive. (The Tier 1 gets paid a lower percentage of their earnings, and Tier 3 gets paid a higher percentage of their earnings) This will encourage parity and benefit the sport in the long haul.
I like ur first idea, I also think there should be no tiers at all.
I second the suggestion of no tiers. There should be a set amount given to every school and then a set incentive amount that schools would receive for their play on the field along with an incentive for viewership numbers. I also agree that there should be one game for a G5/FCS school. I also don’t think there should be any conferences in this super league, there should be a committee that will make the schedules for all the schools with the exception that all rivalry games are protected and played every year. I also think that games should be kept as regional as possible. This would also only apply to football for all other sports the conferences today would still exist.
It would be done as a preseason scrimmage that doesn’t count towards the record in 6 minute quarters
Only 8 in the Big Money Club. To stay there you must not finish last 2 years in a row or in the bottom half 4 years in a row. The replacement teams need to have the most points based on criteria to be determined; such as wins, strength of schedule & how they performed recently.
Radical theory: being college sports back to scholarship only status or like the Ivy League and make it for those who just wanna play and get an education. Then, form an actual professional league system like MiLB or the G-League. Gets those wanting money the chance to go pro, keeps a competitive balance, builds out more professional football teams. Something a country of 330 million is lacking by only having 32 professional teams
I've always wondered why a minor league has never happened.
Need to see players like Calvin Hill, Earl Campbell, John Riggins, Franco Harris and Tony Dorsett.
As an Iowa State alum, this would suck bad. Why are we the sole Big 12 (Big 8) team not with any of our old conference members?
could be worse.. at least you have the familiar faces of Nebraska and Iowa..
We'll be stuck with Missouri again. At least we won't have to hear about them bragging about being in the SEC anymore.
The reality is realignment, NIL, and tv contracts are pushing this inevitable conclusion.
College football was always AAA NFL football. It isn’t really hidden anymore, as it always was.
The inevitable conclusion is that this goes the way of the premier league and that it’s no longer colleges, but semi-pro teams competing on their tier.
It feels weird, but when you remove the amateur nature of CFB, you remove the schools entirely. It’s where it’s going.
The current system has gotta change.....UCLA playing, regularly, against.....RUTGERS!? You can't really get LESS "regional" than that. UCLA/USC don't even play Stanford anymore, it seems!?
This super league idea will completely ruin College football.
not to mention if they do all sports, are they really gonna leave out Gonzaga? one of the biggest brands in college basketball
This would just make college football look like any professional league. It would destroy some of the entertainment of upsets, and absolutely demolishes competition for all other colleges
Im in favor of a separation if there is promotion and relegation built in. And no protected relegation for any school. Let's be honest if Georgia and Alabama can't manage their rosters to be dominant with the resources they have, they don't deserve to be tier one.
What’s Ohio state going to do if they can’t play easy out of conference games?
I love it. It the best one yet and with 6 teams in your league you get play 6 other teams
You leave out Air Force and Army?
That’s what I was thinking at least add army
Makes sense to me. Super league teams have to be fluid. The top tier of super league should not be static. Right now I only watch ACC. If this happens, I will watch all 72. Currently, P5 vs G5 games are dumb. SEC/Big10 being pushed as if I care is dumb. I like rivalry games, regional divisions, and equality but with incentive to be the best.
The biggest problem I see is that some of the biggest rivalry games are not preserved, like the Red River Classic.
Once again up and coming teams like Boise State get royally screwed. Meanwhile teams that fade get a free ride
Would be an absolute crime not to have BOISE STATE included. And I don’t think you can have navy in this new model at all. Or any service school for that matter. They can’t recruit like everyone else can etc etc. . I say replace them with the likes of North Dakota State, Marshall, MTSU, or Southern Miss. Obviously you wouldn’t put any of those teams outside Marshall in the Eastern Division geographically speaking but the statement still stands. Also, having Notre Dame in the East doesn’t make much sense considering they’re in northern Indiana. Not to mention it’s a super weak conference to begin with, outside of Virginia Tech (no disrespect to the other teams).
Ironically enough Notre Dame would be extremely satisfied in that division as it would be super easy for them, which is just how they like it. In reality though, they need to be in either the Great Lakes or Midwest Division as geographically it makes way more sense as well as it would put them in direct competition with the big dogs week in and week out.
It would be insane for the Irish to go play in Boston or Charlottesville when they could travel a lot shorter distance and play way better competition in Columbus or Ann Arbor.
What would make more sense is a 120 team super league. Add in some g5 teams, make the conferences somewhat geographical but adjust them to spread out the best teams. This way they would be favorites for the playoffs. Realign the conferences every 5 years or so.
Kstate is in the top 5of the new Big12 in terms of football brand power and they're an all time top 25 men's basketball program.
Zero chance that they'd get left out, especially considering how good their football is.
The top half of the now heavily depleted/backfilled new BIG12 doesn't mean much, sorry. Very few basketball programs have high enough value, and IOWAST isn't one of them. Even UCONN appears to not make that cut.
@@tarheel7406kstate would most certainly be included in the proposed super league
texas having a division all to it's self is the most texas thing ever
for all intents and purposes thats what the old Southwest Conference was
I would love this. Biggest problem in ncaa is too many blow out games
College Football is dead.
Americans don't have the balls like the Europeans did to stop this
Europeans have college football?
This will be good for the sport and you know it
@tsushima7476 So what happens to Group of Five teams? All the alumni of those colleges don't want their schools to stop playing.
If there are not rivalry games every year I don’t want it
This works for me. I had been saying how a 4 Super Conferences League, with each having 16 Teams, and getting back to a somewhat regional distribution between the 4 conferences.
If they create a super conference, don't give bad teams a free pass just because they were in a power conference or have a history of winning, but are now losing.
Cool concept… For FCS schools not included in the super league, it would be cool if teams could earn their way into 1 division of the super league. In order to stay in the division you have to remain in the top 5. Similar concept to soccer.
How is Memphis a bigger (TV?) market than Oregon St and WSU? They both have larger TV markets in Portland/Willamette Valley & Seattle/Spokane, more students, more living alumni, higher endowments and rank higher than Memphis in multiple areas. I don't mean to slight Memphis by any means but please help me understand. FWIW, I'd like to see Memphis &/or Tulane join the Pac 12. Lastly, it would be criminal to omit Boise St from a football super league!
Lost my support at "It's the idea of Disney execs..."
100+ teams but will take it down to 70 because it's who we want glad I got to watch sports when it was about sports and winning
Here I thought Rudy's coffee was the pinnacle. Way to go Rudy
If its being called project Rudy, you know who behind it. The team that gets all the exposer and has no conference at all.
You have to figure there are some P-4 schools that might be jettisoned in favor of G-5 schools that offer better things like locations, fan bases and TV markets. Purdue, WF, and Mississippi St traded for Memphis, SDSU and Boise are examples of this.
Any separate Tier 1 will be ~48 members and won't include any recently elevated or lingering G5s. Also unlikely to include any school that didn't make an original P5 cut. All upper rights will likely be included if willing.
College football is fun to watch, but the current conference system sucks, in this proposed super league is even worse. The only thing I would support is something that involves all teams being able to compete and earn positions to a national championship bracket.
a March madness style playoff in CFB would be awesome
Personally, I actually love this idea for a College Football Super League. It works. My only requests are as follows:
1: Put Air Force, Army & Navy in their own U.S. Military Division, and let those academies remain independent even in the new league.
2: Please put Boise State in the Super League as well. Boise State has shown that they can play with the Big Boys. Don’t shut the Broncos out.
Other than that, everything is great.
Lol the “Plains” is just the old Big 8 minus Nebraska.
I love the relegation system idea so if one of the original 70 doesn't spend to complete then move them down and allow a team eager to join to compete.
Id be onboard if say after the season the bottom ten drop out joining the outside conferences. Then the conference winners of the bottom conferences join the super league. Tgat would give smaller schools a chance. This would still give tgat college feel to the whole thing. Also seperates the winning programs from the chaffee.
Ultimately ESPN wanted the B10 and SEC are working to be the top 2 that play each other for a championship at the end of the year. The BIG XII is the only thing that stopped them. The ACC will go down next. if the BIG XII was smart they’d merge with the ACC here and now, have two division within the conference and practice relegation to add interest to the league.
Huh?
a) The BIG12 has already lost its top members. It's now relatively disposable.
b) The ACC/ND has the only high value members that are keeping the SEC/B1G from a clean break from the rest.
c) There is no reason for the ACC to dilute via a merger with the already Tier 2 BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 ok Tar Heel fan..guess you dint have a clue about what’s been going on..the ACC is the current bottomed dweller in CFB and was the conference that was going to be decimated when the pac12 implosion happened..the B12 just expanded..there WILL BE 2 conferences in the future that make up one league..the B12 expansion a few years ago thwarted the entire process of B10 & SEC super conference operating outside the NCAA cartel, the B12, ACC & P12 we’re going to form a second division with the AAC and there would be 2 national championships. I feel like you haven’t been paying attention the last 20 years
All I wanted to have was the playoffs with brackets for the top 25 teams at the end of the year to allow a more fair and credible shot for small programs to win. I didn’t want some exclusive BS meant to box everyone else out with only two conferences getting like 65% of the brackets no matter what.
This is a classic sounds good on paper but will be poor in practice. This is taking the sport and college out of it and focusing on the money and marketing. This soulless, financial grab is pathetic and short sited. We can do better. I like the option for relegation or 75 team pool. Hate tier 1 concept explained…. That’s trash and my favorite team would qualify 😆 Disney having interest in it is enough for me to walk away
My main question is would teams like Northwestern or Mississippi State get grandfathered in simply because they are in the SEC and BG10 right now? Or will they get demoted/kicked out of the super league?
No BSU?
Fine, have a super league if you must, but determining membership better restart at square one and NOT automatically have every team in the Big Ten and SEC simply because those schools are fortunate enough to be in those money conferences right now (think Purdue, for example). I know this next part likely can't be done, but if teams are being denied the big TV money of super conference participation these 'excluded teams' (Purdue to continue the example) should at least be given a chance somehow to play their way into membership the following year. Conversely, the same number of teams at the bottom should also be at risk to drop out of the super league -- like it's done in European soccer or wherever.
Come up with a college draft of some sort….and don’t say it can’t be done because it can be when money is involved
The level of greed in college football never ceases to amaze me.
So Boise State, the team likely to be seeded 4th in this years CFP would be left out? That's freaking crazy!
The solution for FCS is obvious at least to me. Have them play the power schools in a scrimmage to save the revenue model. Either pre-season or Spring game.
This is like Rockefeller and Standard Oil.
It is, and people are championing this crap. Are people genuinely this f***ing stupid and blind?
How can they sit here and act like this conference is about competition, and then leave out the school that has the 6th best career record in the league?
SEC goes down to 12 teams?
Would these 2 leagues have relegation and promotion?
UConn has the largest TV market in the country (NYC to Boston) and back to back BB championships. The FB team is 4-2 this year and much improved. I’d like to see them included.
It's about a super league around football not basketball. Congrats on being 4-2 but I doubt the viewership on the football games are in the top 100. This concept of a power 1 conference is laughable.
@@itsVVandAgreed. 🙁
12 6-team conferences would probably have 5 "confeence" games and 7 non-conference games? How would that work? Who would schedule the non-conference games? Right now, individual school so that scheduling. But, 3-4 games are easier to schedule than 7 every year. This needs more work to fly.
I think it’s hilarious that 8 schools would be protected from relegation. Why? Forget about “fairness” - what is the rationale behind having 8 sacred (Longhorn) cows?
You know those left out are going to sue and almost certainly win and the big guys know that, this is why they give the final big bowl game spot to the "best of the rest" and why now they will get playoff spot. These guys know they would almost certainly lose in court and Congress would probably act against them as well, most Americans hate an elitist bully, including me and I am an alum of one of the richest top teams there is.
How are Vanderbilt and Tennessee in the mid south and Memphis is the the south? It's all the same state.
I guess cause their in different parts of the state and Tennessee is kinda a big state but I agree with you
How is Boise State left out but Syracuse, Rutgers, Kentucky, Kansas, Boston College, Memphis, SMU, Vanderbilt, and Maryland are left in?
I hate their blue field as much as the next guy, but it's insane to drop them and essentially promote these never-rans.
To be fair to SMU they really arent this narrative. The death penalty caused 30 years of damage to their program and pre late 80s SMU was arguably the 2nd best team of the SWC only behind Texas.
Proving Boise State fans right over the last 20 years that it’s been about money and not about football this entire time 😂.
At this point i kinda just want the federal government to appoint a commissioner of college football
Re-regionalizing the sport is a good thing. But the expanded playoff keeps the urgency of the regular season a distant memory, which is the other aspect that made college football special. 1/2 is a great batting average, but and F on the report card.
do we REALLY want disney to be involved in this? this is a bad idea in itself, but the inclusion of disney makes this 100x worse.
Most fans in the Big 12 want my Utah Utes eliminated from the conference. Why does everyone say our Ute fans are toxic and delusional??? GO UTES‼️
Not going to fly since they may expand it to have to add a school for each areas. Fresno State, UNR, San Diego State, Wyoming, Boise State, Air Force and Hawaii out of the MWC all have good football teams. Some of them were in the WAC, and they usually get good ratings for being on ESPN. There were talks of FBS as a whole breaking away from the rest of D1 for all sports. I think the top FCS schools would be added to FBS, and several G5 schools would join the P4. Plus, the top basketball brands and baseball teams from the non-football schools. I do think some D2 schools in large populated areas could fit in. Plus, if you leave out states, and schools? You may have politicians get involved to start and anti-trust against the break away league. It would also be anti-interstate business as well. Many communities would be hurting without the money from the fans from the P4 coming to their cities. Someone pointed out? Why would the large fanbases like Boise State, Fresno State, USF, ECU, Tulane, App State, etc want to watch those 72 teams when their team is not included? What if local tv stations decide to boycott and refuse to air those 72 teams on their channels when they have no teams in their state not invited? What cities would refuse to air UCLA and USC games in California when their hometown team not invited? San Diego, Fresno, San Jose and Sacramento. I could go on and on what I think would be a disaster coming. We do have less west coast schools mainly west of the Mississippi as it is.
Too large. This realignment is a contraction via consolidation. The BIG and SEC have already consolidated all of the higher value schools outside of the ACC and ND, so what's their incentive to scatter them back out?
The only way i would support a super league is if they had a relegation system for teams that dont want to invest/compete vs up and coming schools that want to
Bringing monopolies to cfb. For those who remember attending Econ. monopolies have been proven bad even though our economy continues to allow them to happen over and over and over....
Cut off the FCS and you eliminate CC football also. Very few kids even on the best teams will have a chance at playing in college.HS football players will lose interest. The league eventually dies due to lack of players. Private Equity and Disney you have successfully killed again. People are dumb. Greed is the enemy. We are supposed to learn from are repeated mistakes.
Agreed and yet here we are... I guess people never learn...
so Navy gets in, but Army and Air Force dont? lol
I don’t agree with this model that leaves out so many schools, communities, and even states from the discussion. Huge regions of the country would feel disenfranchised. This model would lose support (viewership->$) from the disenfranchised because it would not seem like true meritocracy especially in the new era of NIL! Seems like the biggest and “blue-blood” schools are afraid of losing some of their clout to smaller schools who currently benefit from some aspects of NIL.
Why not put the teams back to their original place bring the bcs and bowl games back and make teams earn the top 2 spots
Honestly I think the twelve team playoff is better
First part I 100% agree with. The second part, not so much. The 12 Team Playoff will improve the sport as a whole and it will give the underdog schools a legitimate shot.
@troybaxter yall don't get it. The "underdog" teams will never win because first their not deep enough to compete against all them teams. Second ncaa not letting that title go to a school that don't have a trophy in the past
@@BCsportsprod why
@@bellzo5 I like the idea that every team gets a chance no matter how big they are
I looked at that 72 team Super Conference/Super League... And it had a huge mistake in it. Army was nowhere to be found. Not even down in the lower division. How can you can have Navy without Army? How can you leave out Army COMPLETELY? I'm not even sure I saw Air Force. SMH. (And yes I wrote this before you mentioned it. lol.)
same thing but an 84 team conference.
that way nobody can complain...
thanks for the video
They aint gonna go with 70 teams when Relegation is easier and more profitable
There will be no relegation.
Good idea until I heard the tier system. The biggest names in football change every ten to fifteen years.
This one seems better. It has Navy and Memphis. No Army though.
Wait i count 72 teams. Where did the other two fit in.
Let’s be real, it’s the power 2. Of the mid majors get left out, you will see a lot of people stop watching CFB.
A percentage would be set aside into a kitty that would be dispersed to the FCS schools evenly.
This would kill college football. This conference would simply be like Triple-A baseball.