Do You Need a Kallax Backspacer?
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- I go over the new record backspacers from turntablerevival.com. If that's your thing, you've found your place. Welcome to the Vinyl Attack!
0:00 - Intro
2:09 - Who Makes These?
3:27 - The Spacers
5:02 - Leesta Vall Studio
6:00 - The Future?
6:13 - Epilogue
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It would have been nice to see how it was installed on the shelf itself.
I found it tough with my lighting setup to get a good shot in the cube. Thankfully it's as simple as sticking tabs to the space and then the spacer to the shelf. Thanks for the feedback.
I agree. Even if it's simple or idiot proof I would have still like to see even a photo.
@@ianthegamer6095 There are photos in the video and more photos at Aaron's website. I hope that helps.
Seems like a great idea but I agree... it is frustrating when we can't actually see what you're talking about.
Oh hell yes!!!
I need these in my life immediately ✨
They're a good solution for sure.
Just stumbled on your channel - and love it. Please keep up the awesome videos. I actually ordered these a week ago (before seeing your video) and glad to hear it’s a quality product!
I'll do my best. Welcome aboard!
Hey mate,
Really enjoying your videos.
The production values and narration are top notch!
Glad you like them!
Good luck with the channel from the UK. Have ordered 8 of these. Thanks for the recommendation
I'm glad to hear I was some help. You'll have to follow up and tell us how you like them!
Yes I would like to use this product. Thanks for the info👍🏾
Happy you found some useful information.
Love your production value, and approach. Just subscribed. Even though the channel is new, it seems like you have been doing it for years. Keep it up brother.
Thanks very much for that. It helps keep the energy level high amidst the trolls.
Got these a few weeks ago and they're fantastic. I'd previously used 3/4" edge molding nailed in at the appropriate distance from the back, but with my new shelves this was definitely the way to go.
I like the simplicity of it myself.
Getting back into vinyl after finding my stash of original70/80s rock albums Your reviews and recommendations are spot on. I am back up to speed (331/3) listening to these records from your vast knowledge on the subject. 🤘🏻
I'm glad to hear it.
I bought a set of these and my record shelf OCD is cured! I love these for the few bucks they cost. My original shipment got held up in shipment and Aaron didn't hesitate to rush me a second set. A+ customer service and product.
He's a stand up guy for sure. I'm glad you like them.
just got these a few days ago. Fantastic product!
It fixes the problem and it's simple to use, I agree.
Yep, I use 2.5” pool noodles cut to length. But this a neat product I might try in the future. Great video 👍
I'll still probably try the pool noodle just to check it out. I just like trying new things.
@@thevinylattack VC TH-camr, DixielandFarms, turned me on to using cut lengths of pool noodles for my open back record storage shelves. It's one of those perfect, cheap, easy ideas you're surprised you didn't think of yourself.
@@TheAgeOfAnalog I'd heard of it, but never quite got around to trying it out. If it works, it works right?
Interesting Chris, i’ve been thinking about a solution for this for a while now so thanks for the heads up on this I’m probably going to order some thanks for sharing this have a good one👍
Glad to help, thanks for stopping by!
Curiosity about those ads also got the best of me and I ordered some of these a little while ago, and just got them in yesterday. One of my projects this weekend is to get them installed on my shelves. Glad to run into this video and see that someone else was equally curious and that it paid off!
They're a quirky little item, but I just like them and they work.
Great topic. I did actually my own because I wanted a backside that I painted black, have a white Kallax, so I added a piece of wood to push the records to the satisfactory range and added in a led strip on the top of each cube and a thin cable line between the cubes. Ended up pretty nice and I'm happy with it. Not too much work for a small amount of money.
Those shelves really lend themselves to all kinds of DIY solutions. Nicely done.
@@thevinylattack Thanks
Interesting. Been thinking about getting a Kallax shelf for my modest but growing LP collection. So been watching lots of TH-cam videos about the shelves. Stumbled upon this video which was very interesting and will be watching more. I checked out the website of the maker and now understand how these are installed. I didn't get it before, but it makes sense now. I was pleased to see that they are made of poplar wood now - or at least some of them are, which seems to be like a good idea. Thanks for the video.
I wouldn't be without them now.
I had a backer board cut to size for my Kallax cabinet, painted it then glued and screwed it to the back of the cabinet. Cut to size pool noodles to fit tight, no adhesive necessary. Works great plus I added the wheels that I'm not sure Ikea sells anymore that were designed for the Kallax stuff. Cabinet is stiff and can roll about my space.
A rolling record collection sounds like a lot of fun. Well done.
I had some pipe insulation tubes about the home that I used. But they can move. I like the idea of them staying in place.
The new wood spacers he makes look much nicer as well.
I discovered your channel like yesterday, and I love it! You remind me of parlogram auctions (it’s positive) :)
I'll take your word for it, welcome aboard!
I had purchased a denim box insert for my records, so I can pull my records out and flick through them, but the weight of the records caused the box to lean to a side. I then tried the woven boxes that IKEA sell. Sadly a 12” doesn’t fit, so now I just leave the records directly in the kallax. Great idea to keep the records lined up
I think people forget just how heavy a bunch of records can be.
A section of pool noodle does the same thing. $1 at Dollar Tree.
This product is definitely something I can use. I'm TRYING to take a break from collecting new records and focus on equipment and accessories. These lil dudes may be exactly what I need to keep my records "in check". I also prefer to have my records protruding slightly from the shelves just like u had mentioned. I never actually noticed this preference before until u had brought it to my attention. I gotta check out this product fir sho. Seems to be just what I need! 👍 Yeesh, I feel like a robot or commercial from the way I just mentioned that...🤖😜
Hey, nothing wrong with taking away some useful information. The product is a solid buy, nothing wrong with being happy about it right?
I was looking for a solution like this a few years ago and went a little different way to solve it. My Kallax cubes sit vertically and abut on their long sides. Using some 5/16" wood dowel rod I had laying around I drilled the side of each cabinet approximately 2" up from rear of each shelf surface and passed the rod straight through from side to side.
After confirming the fit, and trimming the ends so the rods were flush or a little recessed in the cabinet ends I painted them black to match the finish.
A small black piece of tape covers the rods on the end of the cabinet that can be seen, and the ends that face each other on the inside aren't going anywhere.
This method provided a solid barrier so the records can't slide out the back of the cabinet, and I don;t have to worry about tape or glue lifting.
Sounds like a solid solution.
Sent here by Channrl 33 RPM and subbed to you...I am immediately impressed by the research and honest opinions you have..very refreshing.Great stuff great video and thanx for sharing take care
Thanks much for the kind words. Frank was very generous in his video and I'm humbled.
Can you post a back photo that shows the spacers in use? Okay, I reasoned that they lay down flat. The thickness of the plastic is enough to stop the album from sliding up over them? Thanks.
Exactly what I was wondering.
There's a photo of the back in the video and you can also see them at the turntablerevival.com website. They're not terribly thick, but they certainly do work. I hope that helps.
Have a better method for “backing” Kallax shelves. Cut a 1” PVC pipe just slightly smaller than the cube opening, cut pipe insulation foam slightly longer then the cube and slot the PVC into the foam insulation sleeve. Then, take a sheet of particle board, I use the “marker” white board where one side is glossy white, and cut it to fit the back side of Kallax. Attach using strong double sided adhesive tape, or small trim nails. Once you got your backing board attached, slide the foam insulated PVC pipe that you just cut to size, into the cube until it hits the backing. Rinse and repeat until all cubes are complete. Took me less than 10 minutes per shelf.
Yes, should have shown video or photo on how it looks installed and how to install it
I did have photos of how it looks installed in the video and you can find more on the turntable revival website. The installation was a bit trick to film and it's so easy to do I didn't think anyone would really need a guide. Thanks for the feedback.
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I think it's a classic at this point it's so old, lol
"which spies on me"... LOL! Aaron emailed me this week and introduced his new design to the spacers. It seems the spacers will now start shipping a bit thicker, for better performance. It seems Aaron is always looking to better his product, no matter which product that is. Cheers to you Chris.. and Aaron.
Thanks for the update and for dropping by!
Yoooo! I have these and they're AMAZING!
They're quite handy.
Good idea about 2 years ago I went to Lowes and bought some grey foam tubing used for insulating cooper tubing. Cheap and easy to cut to size and cannot damage the album jacket.
I've heard of something similar and was about to check it out when I ordered these. Any solutions that works is the right one ;-)
I've been using a prefinished MDF door stop molding from Menards (1-1/4" x 3/8") that I screwed into the shelf, but I like the idea of using 2-sided foam tape instead. A 7' section of that molding costs about $5 US. At $3 a pop, these are a nice alternative to the molding - no cutting and drilling needed.
LOL about the beer can problem. That could be a drag if someone got clumsy even if your records are sleeved.
I can only imagine how worried Aaron must've been about those drinks spilling. I've been in the studio and I've seen how reckless musicians can be, lol. Glad to help you find an alternative solution to the backspacer problem.
A 1x3 also works really good. Took a router to the top inside edge, then 2 screws to secure.
That's what I'd been using.
You’re the best vinyl chatter on TH-cam
Oh I don't know about all that.
Was directed here by Frank at Channel 33 RPM.. love the channel man, really informative and well shot. And am about to get an 8 cube kallax in the next month or so as I've run out of space in what I was using, so will definitely look into these, hopefully they ship to Australia..
Welcome aboard! I can't see why the wouldn't ship is Australia, I hope you enjoy them.
Thanks, Chris, I'm still organizing my record collection, so am constantly moving records, the sliding back into the cube drives me nuts. Just ordered some, as previously noted, they are made from wood now. Like you, for $3 each, I'll pay someone else to make them. Loved your Zerostat video is well, keep up the good work.
It's just such a time saver that it makes the money spent worthwhile to me. I'm glad you like the videos, I appreciate the encouragement.
This has probably been said before but if not, then those foam insulation tubes for pipes if you get just the right size, they do and you can easily cut accordingly.
I have indeed seen it online, but I wanted to try a lower profile solution to see how I liked it.
I just purchased his upgraded wood spacers, love your lighting setup, would be cool to see a behind the scenes video, just subbed
I have some of the wood spacers on the way myself. I'll be interested to compare them with the old. You can see all the behind the scenes you can stand in the video I made about building the set ;-)
@@thevinylattack just found it! I’m a fellow Michigander but now in Colorado
I use Frost King Vinyl Foam Self-Stick Weatherseal bought rather cheaply from Home Depot. It is 3/4-inch wide and 1/2-inch thick. They come in 10-foot rolls for about $2. They must be cut into 13 1/4-inch strips before lining them up and patting them down in the back of each Kallax self. You need one roll for 8-9 cubicles. They are very effective (as long as you don't use wildly excessive force against them). Even better, they can be carefully and slowly removed without pulling off any Kallax finish. So far, so good.
However, the product that you reviewed is intriguing and worth checking out.
I hadn't heard of those. Nice find.
Imake my own record shelves out of knotty pine. Stain it and nail on a thinnish backing board. Works like a charm and doesn't cost what Kallax does.
I wish I had the space and tools necessary for such a job.
New subscriber to your channel! (Waiting for your review of the HumminGuru record cleaner). I used 1"x1" and wood glue with clamps to put spacers down. I too, like my vinyl at the front. Definitely going to check out the studio selections because I love the philosophy behind the recording process). About to order some stickers. (I collect them to put on my Project Record cleaner).
Hey, welcome aboard! I'm glad you found the video useful, I thought Aaron's projects were neat and I like the idea of shining a light on the smaller creators too.
Just found your channel. Great video! Just subbed.
Hey thanks, welcome aboard!
Nice tip. Picked some up. Postage to Australia is a bit pricey but it is what it is.
Unfortunately, everything is expensive in Australia.
My record collection is so old that it predates IKEA here in Oz (and storage was very expensive) so I have always made my own shelving which has always had the records overhang by about 20mm. My current storage I built straight onto the wall and it looks great especially with the record dividers I recently made out of corflute and I have no need for spacers.
Sounds like you have a good system going. Nice one.
I created my own built ins in a closet the full width of the room with double doors and I made sure that they were placed up against the wall of the closet. So I'm good. Lol
I'd like to see pictures of that. Sounds awesome.
Foam strips are the best! Sticky on one side and soft enough to not harm the jackets.
Interesting. How well would that hold up to lots of use I wonder.
My Kallax/Expedit shelves are assembled with wood reinforcement on the back, and the 2.5 - 3 inch gap in the front doesn't bother me. Interesting product, though!
Having lots of Kallax myself: just take a very thin plywood in the size of the kallax and spax it on the back. Spax it on the frame and spax it on the thinner shelfs. Then your LPs stop at the plywood, plus your Kallax is much more stabil. The costs should be around maybe under 10 bucks. Cheers from germany.
P.S. i would never let my covers get over the bottom/edge of the shelf, like in the video, 'cause everytime someone or something passes the shelf, could touch the covers. I like my covers in the back of the shelf.
Sounds like a good solution as well. I live alone and my record collection is removed from any public walking area so rest assured they're safe.
I'm so glad that the Better Homes and Gardens shelves were mentioned in the vid. Now I don't feel like a cheap-ass for using them to store my records. 🥴
These back spacers are a great idea 👍😊
I'm happy to hear you got something from the vid. Thanks for dropping by.
About the only downside to the BHG cabinets is they are a bit thicker on the exterior shelves with takes up exterior space(floor space) in the room. They don't seem to benefit from the thickness, where as adding a thin full back or maybe some type of metal corner bracing would keep it from accordianing.. I've got a 5 cube BHG running vertical and it's definately thicker than my threshold 4,6,8,9 cube versions. I don't keep records in it, mostly towels, but I do like the pool noodle, pipe insulation idea , as long as you stay away from the pipe insulation with the adhesive on the split part (it might grab a jacket pressed into it every now and again). It's too bad Target changed the early Threshold racks that had little shelf pin holes in them so you could split the cube and place have size fabric cubes in them for accessories . Now they seem to all be just 13 inch cubes.
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Welcome aboard!
2 x 4's cut to length and glued in place baby!
Definitely a solution, just more work than my lazy self wants to do.
@@thevinylattack it took me about 30 min once I had the materials.
I just buy the bins. Helps prevent dust as the edge of thee bin leaves little room on the shelf uptop or so I hear.
Downside is you can't see the spine but hey, less likely for my cat to try and eat the outer sleeves.
Then again I own less than a 100atm so I don't know how it would work with more/larger collections
You may find that it gets to be a bit of a pain as your collection grows, then again, you may like the system you have. There's no wrong answer there.
Yes, always have to worry about the cats. Mine chewed the corners of numerous DVD's back in the day.
I made my own record shelves, as I was annoyed that ikea does not ship. Fun pandemic project with three 3/4" 4x8' plywood boards. Saws, router, glue clamp, done to my specifications, extremely rigid due to L-shape in corner. If I should decide to put back stops in, I'll saw them to size from discarded shipping palette wood, very simple up cycling.
Re 7", I made a shallow drawer for cassettes, 7" sit on top. Works perfectly.
A fun project for sure if you have the tools and space available.
@@thevinylattack How do people get space to mount a 4x4 Kallax. Those aquire space just for mounting.
So I ordered some, feel like I ordered artisan light bulbs. I guess Amazon has spoiled us, will give it another week and check in.
Real world shipping is definitely different than Amazon shipping.
I hammered a piece of plywood to the back of my cabinet that I painted black, and then used pool noodles. It was a good solution, but this is a lot easier and probably cheaper in the long run. Pool noodles will be cheaper than these spacers. But when you add in the plywood and spray paint costs, this is the better solution. Though I think I would put one on the bottom AND top of each cube, to really make sure that the record is secure.
You really only need the one at the bottom of each cube and they work quite well. A lot less work than plywood and paint too ;-)
@@thevinylattack I was just on the website. It looks like they’re made of wood now instead of plastic
@@AndyP126 They are indeed. I need to do a follow up video.
I Don't kallax backspacer but good to watch anyway, i just subscribed
Welcome aboard!
I’m having trouble understanding how this works. So with the adhesives stuck to it in the way you did, I’m guessing that it just fastens to the bottom of the cube correct? When I saw these in an add, I imagined them standing up behind the records. I thought it had adhesive flaps or something that would allow that. But, it sitting in the bottom of the cube make much more sense as it would be much easier to install. Thanks for the review. I have been eyeing these for awhile. Though I do have animals. None of them mess with the records, but I feel like my records being recessed into the cube, help protect against hair and dirt. If I had them sticking out like you do, I think I would lose my mind as my imagination ran wild.
You hit the nail on the head. Just stick them right to the bottom of the book case. They're just thick enough to keep the records from sliding back.
This is off topic. I got into Vinyl a while back and enjoy listening to it and all the micro adjustments we have to make (turntable &catridge adjustment, ,amp,speakers etc)to get the best experience.But I wonder sometimes, if I should maybe gotten into cassettes again. The fact that Vinyl trims of the top and bottom end of the frequency range is a bummer and I know due to the physics of space and needle blouncing off etc... But if you want pure music, then isn't the cycle usually -> Master Tape - > Reel tape? So Reel tapes are magnetic media and you don't do a RIAA curve on them. Yes cassettes are inferior to reel tapes with the hissing noise etc.. But aren't cassettes really preserving the original music as it was recorded than Vinyl?
Vinyl reduces those frequencies when cutting, but brings them back with the RIAA curve. They also sound way better than cassettes in my opinion.
Hi Chris, how do you compare between CD and vinyl ? in your opinion does vinyl sound better than CD? By the way I like your beard
It really depends on my mood and the music. I find that I tend to prefer Jazz on vinyl almost exclusively while I mix up the heavier stuff all the time between formats.
Yeah... I can't understand how they work. You stick them at the back?
That's it. Nice and simple.
The clear backdoacers are from turntable revival? I didn’t see them on their website.
They're made of wood now, which I like even more.
No link to the product page?
I'll edit the vid right now. Sorry I missed that.
How long have you been doing youtube? Your video on mofo records popped up on my recommended, found it very informative and you put more effort into your production than most but was shocked to see you had under 2k subs when I reached for the subscribe button. People who put out content this pristine normally have tens of thousands of subs
Well I've only been at it a month so I'm actually quite happy with the growth. Thanks very much for the encouragement, I truly appreciate it.
Also you mention storage for 7inch.. any plans for 10inch?
He didn't say anything about a 10 inch solution. As a work around, you could place a 10 inch on the shelf where you want and measure how far from the back to place the space though. Not quite as cut and dry, but it'd get the job done.
If you need 10 inch storage, maybe the RE stuff that Target sells and some of the Walmart 11 inch cube fabic bin storage solutions might work better than a traditional Kallax, Expidit , Threshold design. They are flimsy as heck but with a back board on it and maybe some corner metal screwed into them they might hold the weight.
I some strips of 1x3 glued in place with a hot glue gun. Very easy. Did that years ago. BTW- the company’s web site advertises a blank disc to set antiskate. That’s both a popular and wrong method.
I'd say it's more of an optional method. Some people use that, some people use different methods. What do you use?
I bought these a few months ago and love them. The plastic coating that you peel off smells horrendous tho. I have the skinny version but it doesn’t leave the 1 inch open like it says. Maybe I was sent the wrong product who knows. They work great nonetheless
They did have a bad smell. Interestingly I zapped one with a zerostat to reduce the static and it immediately smelled better too.
Money well spent!
I quite like them.
I bought some of these. The included foam tape did not work at all. So I bought some double-sided Gorilla tape, and those don't work either. I think I'm just going to use a few screws and fasten them permanently.
What kind of teflon-coated case do you have?!? lol
@@thevinylattack LOL, I have the Walmart/BHG version of the Kallax units. The surface is slightly textured, is maybe why they don't stick as well. The foam squares held for about a month before I noticed my records were no longer flush in a few spots. The Gorilla Tape failed almost immediately on the ones I replaced.
@@mrshoning Well, at least you found a solution.
Huh? Did I miss where he demonstrates how these work?
Thought I was the only one who liked my records to stick out a bit 😬
It just makes them easier to pull out.
Frank, Channel 33 RPM, sent me. Subscribed.
I think I'm going to need to buy Frank a beer for all the help he's given me. Welcome aboard!
@@thevinylattack well...the Judas Priest album was already a great gesture, but I'm sure he wouldn't turn down an adult beverage. Something from Bell's or New Holland Brewery maybe?
I’ve personally been shoving pool noodle pieces into the back of my kallax, but these are a bit prettier. I’d grab them for sure.
The new version made of wood looks even nicer.
I cut mine in half. Without doing so the records stuck out a quarter inch. Cutting them in half they are about half an inch in now.
Mine fit like a glove, I'd be curious to see why they needed modification.
I’d show you pics but no way to send them. Do you have a FB page?
I found you on FB and sent you a message on messenger
The Kallax is a popular choice for storing records, but this isn't for me. I've installed the doors on my shelving to protect the covers from sunlight damage and these inserts wouldn't work with the kit installed. The only issue is you can't avoid the hinges and there is the potential to damage the covers so you need to put less in each section! It certainly looks tidier though and reduces dust getting in as well.
You could probably use the kallax with the slim back spacer, but it sounds like you have it all figured so no worries right?
Rather than doors have you tried to place a "sacrificial lamb" of a non valuable record jacket facing forward to keep the UV down? It might look like cover art in each cube.
Need something similar in Europe. Shipping from the USA is $18. :(
Shipping is always the hidden pain in the butt.
@@thevinylattack Funny thing is I wouldn't even mind paying those $18, but there's also 21% tax on the total amount (including shipping costs) + $20 customs handling fee added to it.
I got depressed while typing this. ;)
@@DrNoxin The VAT is a giant heaping pile, that's for sure.
Damn bro. After watching this video I have a serious case of beard envy.
I'm just lazy.
I ended up buying some. This hobby is so deadly to my wallet
Mine too bud, mine too.
Pool noodles . Cut them to size . Dollar store
I thought about it, but I don't really like the look.
I use pool noodles
That's a popular choice.
No damn Instagram people here!
That's okay, I'm sure we'll live, lol.
no examples? no photos? no nothing?
There are photos right in the video.
Blablabla for...nothing!
Clearly is was blablabla for a backspacer. Pay attention.
Just cut cardboard strips. Nobody will see it, it’s recycling, and it’s free.
While a nice and ecologically sound alternative, it wouldn't be nearly as resilient over time.
Waffle, waffle, waffle! Zzzzzzzzzzz
make make some out of thick card..no one will see them
A very solid alternative.
chris, dont reply to this comment
Hey, you're not the boss of me!
Don't know why this video was recommended to me, but how about you actually show what you are talking about? Basic common sense.
I did. Several times. Maybe watch the whole video. Basic common sense.
I 3D printed my own backspacers. There's .stl files on thingaverse.
Also, I would not use anything PVC near my records as it can off-gas and collect on the records themselves, if they are not properly protected. This has happened with cheap outer sleeves made of PVC in the past.
So what's in that 3D print material?
@@thevinylattack Just regular PLA.
"PLA plastic or polylactic acid is a vegetable-based plastic material, which commonly uses cornstarch or sugarcane as a raw material. The monomer is usually made from fermented plant starch. This material is a thermoplastic aliphatic polyester and it is the primary natural raw material used in 3D printing."
@@ScottEvil Thank you for the information. I've yet to delve into 3D printing, but it's on my mind.
Cool Video. I made my own from scrap plywood but I could see this being used by some collectors.
I'd do the same if I had the proper tools.