The BEST Calibration Method Just Got BETTER

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ค. 2024
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    The calibration flower, now known as Califlower, also the best calibration ever, has been really popular and also really successful in helping lots of people to calibrate or validate the XY size and skew of their 3D printer and it just got even better. In this video, I cover all the updates to the design of the STL and calculator since it was made. There are loads of improvements so hopefully, we can help everyone with this simple calibration method.
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  • @Vector3DP
    @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +20

    FYI: I mention in the video that there are no instructions, that's WRONG, there are instructions, really good written ones are included.
    Also, for those that have bought previously, you can login with the same email you used to purchase and you'll be able to get the latest version.
    One more thing, it looks like CURA now has per-material shrinkage compensation in the latest Beta version so I'll be sure to make a new update for that. (upgrades are free)
    Merry Calibration, and Happy Printing!

    • @curtisevans7344
      @curtisevans7344 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am having some issues with your website, i cant get the captia to show up to request help with this. i bought the original and cant access my account to update is there a better way of getting in touch with you about this?

    • @TheLordinio
      @TheLordinio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      got the calibration flower today, in order to use it to calibrate materials that crystallize when annealing and as such shrink significantly. would be really cool to add features to calibrate in Z direction too for these materials

    • @zola5584
      @zola5584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      why the model this expensive, this price a bit pricie

  • @sonicdudemgvids3451
    @sonicdudemgvids3451 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Percentage compensation in cura is actually on a material basis. You can add it to material settings and put it for the material you are using. You just have to add it as an option.

  • @sandrolauer350
    @sandrolauer350 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    @Vector3D: Kind remark from an mechanical engineer: please don't advise calibrating machine settings on material base. Steps per mm should be calibrated with calipers, not with an actual print, because of the dependency of material flow, extrusion temperature and fan speed causing shrinking, with ABS shrinking in general... You get the point.
    I love your Califlower for material settings calibration though. Good job 👍 🙂

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว

      From the start it was always for shrinkage and skew. But some people can't integrate shrinkage well, so steps/mm is just for them really.

  • @mrCetus
    @mrCetus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been using the Califlower to commission my E3D TC. Incredibly helpful! And thanks for the tip on line thickness, I think it explains my slight discrepancy between internal/external measurements.

  • @stvcolwill
    @stvcolwill 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks so much for this video and calibration method. You've put in a lot of time and thought and testing into this. Kudos and hats off to you my good sir! I'm printing the first one now!

  • @billychampy316
    @billychampy316 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work my friend. Very cool, I will try your new Califlower 👍

  • @farnaby13
    @farnaby13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your work on this.

  • @johnbeima6413
    @johnbeima6413 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Overhang & Bridging stls were/are extremely helpful. :) The overhang test helped nicely to set SuperSlice’s angle for overhangs as well as to see where cooling lacks. The bridging was a nice simple test. Sometimes all the really fancy ones just over complicate things. These were two simple stls that worked just so nicely. It will be disappointing to no longer have them included in our package updates. Sure they may lack the extra docs, but sometimes a simple stl is nice to have. :)

    • @Slavfot
      @Slavfot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought the califlower a couple of days ago and did not get the overhang and bridging stls. I would love to have those. Is there any way to get these now?

  • @Milfeldt
    @Milfeldt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm happy 😁 Got XY down to 0,01 -0,01. and skew I/O to 0,00 -0,01
    Before calibration they were -0,3 -0,4 and -0,4 - 0,27

  • @panInformator
    @panInformator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! Thanks for amazing work on XY calibration. Do you have a solution for Z calibration as well?

  • @daimhinm
    @daimhinm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would be cool if you added a solid base layer so you could use the multitude of Califlowers printed as drink coasters.

  • @bravenkind7843
    @bravenkind7843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for your work on this! I bought the calibration flower from the link on the old video. Is it the same product?

  • @karlos9371
    @karlos9371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You appear to have all the information needed from inner and outer measurements. Is it possible to add extrusion multiplier adjustment calculation too?

  • @tinyfluffs
    @tinyfluffs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Might make a Califlower coaster holder for the new apartment xD

  • @smittery
    @smittery ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note about Cura, the 5.1 beta DOES have shrink compensation for specific materials now.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh that's good 👌

  • @davidbucek
    @davidbucek ปีที่แล้ว

    You cant set % shinkage per material in Prusaslicer but you can set it in Superslicer! :)

  • @cgrosbeck
    @cgrosbeck ปีที่แล้ว

    So ESteps and flow needs to be done prior to printing the Califlower. Altow through my understanding in the video it works to a center line.

  • @nmavor
    @nmavor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how about PLA vs ABS ?
    is I'm using ABS do I need to resize it by 100.5% ?

  • @RhapsodyInBlaah
    @RhapsodyInBlaah ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry if this is addressed elsewhere, but can this be used with a Prusa Mk 3? I bought it before I remembered there might be firmware issues.

  • @x_jaydn
    @x_jaydn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Vector 3D, if we've purchased the old Calibration Flower v7, will we have inclusive access of the new Califlower? 🤔

  • @HoffmanTactical
    @HoffmanTactical ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is super cool.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks 😊 I think so too!

  • @PhilipHollowaychannel
    @PhilipHollowaychannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use this on the ender 3 S1 pro. I use Cura as the splicer.

  • @paulmenzel2884
    @paulmenzel2884 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this interesting enough I had to reverse engineer it myself. couple things: a) Skew the Marlin AD distance, 100*2^-0.5, doesn't that need to be scaled? That is the perfect value and the AC and BD are in a scaled space. b) if the Avg X Error and Avg Y Error are different wouldn't that indicate one of the axis has its Step/mm off. I'd expect them to be the same if only material shrinkage was at play. c) seems to me flow compensation could be calculated. Scale the measurements by the Shrinkage / Step/mm Then calculate the Inner/Outer Error off the new values. d) If you know Skew setting for a set of measurements. The new value is just the sum of the measured angle and the prints skew setting angle.

  • @matthiasreisenauer3176
    @matthiasreisenauer3176 ปีที่แล้ว

    But still the same question like an CR-30 you cant really use your test would you like to improve it also for it ?

  • @CTZN1
    @CTZN1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i have question, thinking to buy this but i got questions need to answered.
    1. Does it applicable to my printer, ender 3 v2? because the website mentions prusa and prusa, makes me think oh this only for prusa?
    2. how do i input the correction into cura? especially the X Y errors?

  • @legacyofbob
    @legacyofbob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe this was addressed in the video but I missed it, but is this only for Marlin? Is there skew correction for RRF/Klipper as well?

    • @woodwaker1
      @woodwaker1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has it for Klipper and Rep Rap

    • @legacyofbob
      @legacyofbob ปีที่แล้ว

      @@woodwaker1 thanks!

    • @woodwaker1
      @woodwaker1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@legacyofbob I just purchased the files , seems like a inexpensive solution if it helps at all. It's in my project Que.

  • @StargateNeo
    @StargateNeo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All for the community 💸

  • @jscancella
    @jscancella ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the updates free to those who have already bought the calibration flower previously?

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, for those that already purchased, you should already see these files available to you. Just need to login and download.

  • @devilik3692
    @devilik3692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thing is with rotation distance in klipper it specifically tells you that numbers should be whole

  • @icanthelplt9061
    @icanthelplt9061 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally just bought this like 4 days ago lol and now you changed it. I think i got the new one though as it has step/mm in it?

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, it's been there about a week. You get all updates free anyway though so don't worry :)

  • @hansdampft561
    @hansdampft561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please offer other payment options? I tried to by calibration test method from your store but my EU Visa card was not acctepted!

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว

      Stripe accepts all cards AFAIK so if it failed it was for another reason. PayPal is also available though.

    • @hansdampft561
      @hansdampft561 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Vector3DP Thank you very much! I have bought 2 because I think 5 pound is a a little to cheap for the time and effort you you invested!!

  • @c3h4organic97
    @c3h4organic97 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just have the email of the purchase but no account to download the new version. Where do I get it?

    • @boleslawciesielski6199
      @boleslawciesielski6199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Click on "My account" and then "Lost your password". It will send you e-mail to reset the password. After you do this, log in and the files should be there in the Downloads section.

  • @VagabondTE
    @VagabondTE ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is a completely different type of programming and probably not even possible.. but is there anyway to write an app that can take these measurements from a picture? With like, a quarter also in the picture?
    Considering the amount of recalibration that 3D printers generally need, even an app with ads should generate enough revenue to approach an app programmer.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think we're a long way from a camera being good enough to capture the resolution needed for this level of calibration.

    • @smittery
      @smittery ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, these size measurements would be VERY difficult to catch on a standard camera, what with perspective and lens distortions and everything else.
      HOWEVER, your idea isn't far off for structured blue light scanning (revopoint pop mini) or lidar (Bambu X1), and the califlower+included methodology may be a good baseline for making the tuning tooling that pair with those emerging technologies to dial-in the crap out of future printers.

  • @willl84
    @willl84 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if we bought the last one is this update free?

  • @pdzed
    @pdzed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    CaliCoaster?

  • @the_futur1st
    @the_futur1st ปีที่แล้ว

    I have bought a califlower a couple days ago. Unfortunately i did not create an account. The tip above "go to My account and click reset password", does not work. The system throws the error message "Invalid username or email". Is there any way to update my califlower to the latest versions?
    A little proposal, as you mentioned in the video a califlower can shows us underextrusion and overextrusion cases, it would be easy to add the field for starting flow number and calculate an assumption flow value to minimize this error.

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว

      YT comments not the best place for support, but just make you use the same email you purchased with.

  • @megaobi
    @megaobi ปีที่แล้ว

    this is fnatastic!

  • @TommiHonkonen
    @TommiHonkonen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you could call it calicoaster

  • @darren990
    @darren990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So how do you use it lol

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check the first video, or the instructions that come with it.

  • @gnydick
    @gnydick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aren't fillets worse?

    • @Vector3DP
      @Vector3DP  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fillets are best on the XY plane, chamfers tend to be better everywhere else.

  • @AndrewGillard
    @AndrewGillard ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like TH-cam is now auto-generating chapters from on-screen titles and it's thoroughly confused by your animation :D
    L Explanations 7
    L Iteration 7
    😹

  • @AbruptAbacot
    @AbruptAbacot ปีที่แล้ว

    Califlower? Mmm gotta love that OG indoor. Don't ship this across state lines folks. You wouldn't download a weed👁

  • @odyss160
    @odyss160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks more like a waffle

  • @MisterkeTube
    @MisterkeTube ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm probably going to be labeled a cheapskate for this remark, but I'm going to state it anyway (probably because I am a cheapskate): if you want this to replace calibration cubes, then make it free!

    • @nakwadroid
      @nakwadroid ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second this!

    • @mochmaster45
      @mochmaster45 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would say make the stl free but add an option to buy the spreadsheet that auto-calculates for you.

    • @stvcolwill
      @stvcolwill 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      honestly, and I don't mean any shade, but I humbly think you're missing the point. it's not that you're a cheapskate. I see it that it's worth way more than the money charged because it saves me time and I'm getting a huge bargain on all the time and effort and skills this man has put into this project. If you were truly a cheapskate, you could create this yourself easily and negate having to pay. I haven't seen any other calibration that tells me this much information which is also laid out so straight forward and simply. I was literally in the process of setting up my own inner and outer measurements thingy when I stumbled on this man's project. So, so, so worth it. Again, I mean no disrespect brother!

  • @dr_gotheem3899
    @dr_gotheem3899 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been using the Califlower to commission my E3D TC. Incredibly helpful! And thanks for the tip on line thickness, I think it explains my slight discrepancy between internal/external measurements.