The Spyderco SpyMyto is Disappointing
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With the knife closed look to see how deep the detent ball sits in the detent hole. Ive found that light detents usually means the ball isnt sitting deep enough so with a diamond cone shaped dremel bit you can fix detent strength. Just go slow so as not to get detent lash.
I own 2 of these. The lock stick goes away after a day of playing with it. There was a break in period for my knife. Also, the very first thing that needs to be done to the knife right out of the box is to disassemble it and clean all of the grease off the blade and the bearings. The multi row bearings feel like ultem to me and were full of oil/grease which in my opinion contributed greatly to the "mushy" feel you are describing. I replaced them with Skiff bearings and the "sluggish" feeling is gone. My knife is perfectly centered and nearly drop shut. It sounds like yours might have some issues....maybe carry it for a few days and let it break it in. I can tell you right now...that they may have made 2000...only 1999 can be "like new" because I'm definitely carrying 0806 of 2000.
Which skiffs fit this babe?
Hey, what size skiff bearings did you use? I was thinking of doing the same thing, but I didn't see they Spymyto listed on the site for bearing size.
QC seems to be inconsistent on these. I got a good one right out of the box with a good detent. No lock stick on mine.
Bummer. I must have got a bad one
Thanks for this video!
On several knives I have had the best luck increasing detent strength by enlarging the hole in the blade that the ball sits in. Just a tiny bit makes a big difference.
Mine has no lock stick thankfully. My only gripe is that I wish the detent was stronger, although mine is not weak enough to be a dealbreaker. Better when broken in for sure. I had the photos done and ready to post it for sale, and changed my mind at the last minute. Still glad that I kept it. I have Skiffs on the way, which I can only imagine will make me like it more. Maybe a BGM hollow in the future.
Limited number should mean absolute QC, not "Limited number because we dont know how it will do."
I have #0215. I did get lock stick right out of the box it went away after 10 minutes of fidgeting with it. Detent seems fine to me. I'm also very used to Italian knives so it is pretty much exactly as I expected it to be. The only thing I don't like is that for there being only 2000 of them, I feel like I've seen 5000 different posts. I'm sure it'll grow on you, Dood.
So if detent ball is not seated in hole 100% there is lots one an do before trying to bend lock bar. Just hold against light in closed position to see if detent ball is seated nicely. If not check detent hole for burr or dirt 1st that might prevent ball from sitting in. If ok then check position of were blade stops against stop pin in close position, can slightly sand down blade a bit till ball sits 100, this makes biggest difference to detent strength.
thank you for testing this out for me
Finally, someone that knows how to measure bte thickness! I got the exact same measurements on mine, using the same calipers i use at work to QC the aerospace parts i make.
Once you clean the awful grease out, the action gets better. My detent is literally perfect. One of the best ive ever handled, but yours looks more like what other people are getting.
Good luck on the cut testing... Its horrible. My factory edge was almost too sharp to whittle hairs; it just blasted right through them, but still couldn't manage a few dozen feet through cardboard before it was just peeling its way through.
Interesting! I guess I just got one with a bad detent.. oh well. There’s still the thick measurement BTE, and the sharp lockbar. Overall not for me
Grabbed me a Spyderco Manix 2 in S30V to go with my Manix 2XL in CRUWEAR yesterday. I think I'll be carrying it more than it's bigger brother.
Lock stick worked itself out on mine
Same! I was nervous at first lol
Mine just arrived. I think you are having some really bad luck with knives bro. Detent is fine on mine, you can fail with the flipper if you BARELY press down, but with any type of force mine deploys, the spydie hope is dialed in and takes very minimal effort to deploy with, and that’s what’s most important in my opinion.
I love the ergos and the weight of it too, feels great in hand, love the looks, crowned spine compliments it very well, pocket clip is amazing, nice stamping, it’s sharp AF, which I expect from Spyderco. It’s a win for me.
The only complaint that I agree with people on is that lockbar access but it’s not a big enough problem for me to dislike the knife personally.
That blows! For me haha
That’s great man glad ya got a good one
@@doodysdaggers yea man I really wish yours was better. I love it. Probably in my top 5 in my collection. I don’t want to say higher because I just got it this morning, but it resonates with me.
I could see how it’s not for everyone though.
It's because she has weak thumbs. Period.
Even with the clip, they could have finished it a little better with a counter sunk screw on the butt part of the knife to make flush. Instead of having a screw head sticking out.
I got a ton of high end knives, my exp with italian production knives is bad QC, soft steel, thick bte. A lot of people might not like this statement but the best QC and eye for detail + grinds (thin bte) comes from China! I am from Belgium so no conflict of interest, i just care for quality, no matter what country it comes from.
I looked at the Lion Steep version with removable flipper tab a couple years ago. Immediately put it back in the case at the shop. Had the same detent issues you felt. Not a fan. Wanted to like it though.
I’m sooooooo glad I did not see this knife for sale. It’s been sold out, and I’m glad. Yikes.
Been trying a failing to score one of these. I'll probably just pick up the Spyopera instead, been on my list for a while lol.
A bunch on EBay not over retail yet if your still interested
@roady7420 really? From reputable sellers? Always weary of ebay
@@roady7420 keep me in mind if you do part with it, I'd be interested
@@buckaroobanzai2551well it’s not like there’s gonna be clones of a flash batch knife right as it releases, I guess they could just steal your money and not send anything tho
@andyhayward1261 To be honest that's a really fair point. I've just never trusted ebay in general but I'm sure it's inherently safe.
cut test m398 vs magnacut yay
"I do like the clip!" 😂
man if the detent ball is on the removable overtravel stop/lockbar interface maybe you could contact spyderco to get a replacement or grind a bit down around the ball.
Maybe.. I’m not sure I feel like messing with it though.
I’m actually on the fence with mine 017 of 2000 , I had lock stick it went away, I loosened the pivot just before it goes of center big improvement on the action , My detent is strong but I have detent lash , Does anyone else have detent lash ?
Mine didn’t, but my detent was super weak. Some people say theirs is strong. Among other issues. Seems the QC is really lacking with these
I got #220 and got lucky. Mine drops shut, detent is great (blade just pops back closed), etc. Someone did offer me a badass modded Manix for it lol.
I would be happy to trade them for my Spymyto.
Lucky!
I’m def gonna grab one if I get the opportunity. Probably won’t carry it much. Glad I saw this though because now I’m not gonna be as aggravated every time I miss out one lmao
This ain't it, chief. Buy it. Promise
i feel the same about the most recent Knifejoy Slyz Bowie drop, purchased the knife and you cannot even Spydieflick it, -> the only reason I would snag a Spymyto is cause im collecting bladesteels and this is their first M398 sprint ever. literally cannot wait to sell the bowie once Ebay calms down and just buy a handfull of Maxamet Sal or Eric Glesser designs that will actually see pocket time
That’s a big disappointment. I haven’t gotten to try the Bowie yet, I’ve heard mixed reviews
Ahh man! Italian knives are so disappointing across the board. I never had one that came without any problems. 😢
I'd be curious to know what the hrc is. Is Spyderco insisting on a higher standard than Italian manufacturers normally impose on themselves?
Lionsteel has never had an issue with HT. It was a lie (or mistake) by some idiot comany that later removed the video. Everything else is just rumor and people being...people.
@@thomasnetzel828 I wasn't singling Lionsteel out. Most large manufacturers not named Spyderco tend to be quite conservative in their heat treats. I'm just curious as to whether Spyderco collaborations maintain the same standard that Spyderco sets for their own factories.
@@BladeLabMiami Gotcha. Good question.
@@thomasnetzel828 Yep. You'll see people talking about "data" or how they are steel experts/metalurgists...but when pressed to simply show the data or demonstrate...they don't. Because they can't. I'm very familiar with that original HT video as it pertained to Lionsteel, it was removed and the author confirmed it was not at all accurate. It was a lie.
Not a fan of the look. Are you looking at trying the MT40 HIC? I got one but I’m not sure I’m going to keep it.
What’s that?
@@doodysdaggers Spyderco Ceramic Mule Team.
@@doodysdaggers I haven't used or tested it yet but it's supposed to be incredible at edge retention. It's sharpening it that's the problem. It doesn't seem like Spyderco put much of an edge on them (including mine) and are leaving it up to the buyers to figure out the best method for the final edge. I have some Gunny Juice on the way and might be using it on wood to polish and edge on it. Diamond plates have been too aggressive and just chip too much edge away from what I've read on the forums.
m398 specialty blade.. SSSSIIIIICCCKKKKK DOPE !!! I want that for my MKM WITH SPYDERCO colab... I have the MKM line... VINCENT TPF FARA... FOLDER/Fixed/slip LOL
LOL 🤮
collab with Lion steel is a cool idea. let spyderco make the knife, better outcome
Agreed
I hate it when I drop that amount of cash and wind up having to mod the knife to make it decent. I'd really get the regrind if you keep it.
OMG a Spyderco Flipper!
Find a new old stock Southard if you want a good Spyderco flipper.
Lionsteels QC has always been iffy in my experience. I avoid the Italian made Spydercos.
I think I will too
I also bought it and didn’t like it. Ending up selling it to someone in the community for cost.
I’m never a fan of varying scale materials/colors. Reminds me of sportswear.
Um, yeah. Expensive clip. You were nice. 👊🏼
I've been doing the knife collector/ daily carry / user thing for over 30 years. I'm 41. The Italian oem knives have always sucked period. They get close though. I won't buy them.
Yeah I think I’ve arrived at that conclusion too
You didn't want to like it before you opened it
Wrong
Damn, that’s sucks dude. I just don’t think I would ever try something that Lionsteel has a hand in. Not impressed with that brand.
I like spyderco but I know better buying Italian made knives. It's to bad because I really like how Italian knives look and feel in hand.
👍🏼
I’m just one of those people who won’t buy an Italy collab spyderco. I’m interested in m398 but on an Italy knife I’m out
I haven’t been super impressed with any of the Italian spydies. I have a mule team from Italy and it’s great but kinda hard to screw up a mule team. Glad I watched this, I was wanting to get one….not really now. Thanks Dood
I'm a big fan of the PM2 and PM3 but this one just isn't my cup of coffee. Stoked for everyone who was stoked to get one. It's cool Spyderco does stuff like this though but man this looks very disappointing from your vid.
Saved me some $$$
He didn't. It's an amazing knaf but he wants a snappy dent and this knaf needs to be broken in. Js.
I know there is some diehard spyderco fans. But the hole is so unappealing on the blade. Makes me want to put a piece of para-cord through it for some reason. So many other knifes I'd jump on before a spyderco especially for the price they ask.
Don’t knock it till you try it!
Dagos make low quality everything. $pyderco wants money, rest comes secondary.
well, the epitome of knife snobbery in these comments and vid…
gotta be from people that have never actually used a knife and probably can’t sharpen one if they tried either ..
Lionsteel has always had questionable quality and thick ass grinds, avoid avoid avoid 🤪
it's a no from me dawg...def way better without the flipper tho
Disappointed with mine too. Poor access to the lock bar, weak detent, ridiculously large gap in the lock bar cutout. Did not really like the micarta (felt plasticy) prefer Golden Colorado micarta on my PM2, and the titanium scale felt/looked plasticy. #484/2000 is for sale also.
Flash batch it back to where it came from!
Yikes on the SpyMyto. This is why I’m never interested in Italian-made folders. They might look sleek, but the build quality is almost always a bit janky, and their heat treatments are notoriously bad. 🤷♂️
Yeah. Regrettably, though the Italians make great sports cars, pasta, Pizza handbags and leather goods, their knives are a huge miss.
I bought a spymoto and it is amazing. My detent was really perfect out of the box. Bummer he got one with a light detent. I bought another one today so for my brother. Interested to see the difference in build quality.
Never been a fan of the look of it. But I could be wrong.
Given the blade steel and detent and the amount of these coming into the secondary I think I'm ok passing on it.
Yeah you’re not missing out. Everyone is selling theirs
@@doodysdaggers Too bad. Very cool design and I love my spyopera.
Oof
Wish Spyderco did more framelocks. This one was a dud though.
I have an MKM Terzoula and a Lionsteel Rok, and they both have mushy, unreliable detent. Sometimes, they open, and sometimes, they don't. I stopped buying Italian knives.
I got the Spymyto and before that the Salt PM2. Salt PM2 was the weakest detent of any Spyderco I’ve owned. I’m officially done buying new Spyderco. Their quality has been way off.
Glad I’m not the only one, all my recent Spyderco have all felt completely different.
I kind of agree but spyderco has been my favorite affordable American made company… I know this is Italian but still… idk… it’s a crap shoot unfortunately
@@weldernick3750 I’ve had over 30 Spyderco and it’s been my main brand but lately they have just been way off. I’m officially done, at least for the rest of the year.
Lmfao. Cry some. Wow.
made in Italy? Oh man. i got a few words..