What happened to the dial? Panerai Luminor PAM009 Repair Restoration Vintage Watch

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  • @HorologyBiology
    @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +11

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    • @markvitacco9814
      @markvitacco9814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be very cool.

    • @悟道-e1e
      @悟道-e1e ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish you break through 10,000 subscribers as soon as possible, I have already subscribed.
      Is this watch made in mainland China?
      Omega vintage watch is my favorite watch❤😍😘

  • @donrogan2812
    @donrogan2812 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect video for today's rainy day. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @rossjackson3670
    @rossjackson3670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Matt. Really enjoyed the visuals and the added bonus of the commentary. Super fresh!

  • @markvitacco9814
    @markvitacco9814 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Epoxy is your friend but it does need to set up over night. You can drill and tap this stuff once it's set. I just fixed the Heads Up Display bracket on the Corvette with this stuff. In the U.S. the go to brand is JB Weld. Been around for decades. You did a nice job on the prep. That will make a big difference to help insure a permanent repair.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mark. 24 hours is toooooooo long 😂😂😂 I'm not sure if we get JB Weld over here but I have heard of it.

  • @carlrees5574
    @carlrees5574 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thats the movement we worked on at watch school. your channel deserves so many more subscribers!! keep up the good work brother !!

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Carl, yes it's an old skool movement and nice to work on. I keep grinding away on the channel, but it definitely had a nice pump the last 2 weeks 🙌🙌🙌

  • @wildernessofzinn17
    @wildernessofzinn17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This _is_ a gorgeous movement. First time I saw a Panerai movement. Good work. I'm glad I found your channel.
    Oh, btw, if I may relate an anecdote:
    I've also heard the old chestnut that if one is starting in watchmaking, one should begin with pocket watches. I did not do that either. I had no pocket watches available at the time.
    I started with what was plentiful and on-hand...vintage ladies' watches. Old vintage ladies Bulovas and Elgins were common, and even an Omega or two. Not only were they on eBay for a few bucks, but family and friends had old ones lying around they gave me. And, if I screwed up, no big deal...and I screwed up!🤪🤪
    Yes, they're teeny-weeny, but if you cut your teeth on them, then a standard size watch or pocket watch won't appear as intimidating.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      It must be very uncomfortable being you walking around with huge balls 😂😂 You must have them for starting out on ladies watches. They are ridiculously small to work on!! Many thanks for finding the channel and the comment.

  • @WristwatchMedic1953
    @WristwatchMedic1953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. That movement looked huge. Thanks for the video

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Darryll, always appreciated 😊

  • @GregSherlock
    @GregSherlock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hairspring work is definitely not fresh! I tried, some success but drove me demented! Replaced the hairspring in the end! 🙃 Love your work mate !

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks :) yep, hairspring work can be a pain for sure

  • @tomholloway7566
    @tomholloway7566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again Matt. I for one agree with you about rubber necking but it has been around forever.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Tom. Is that the actual name for it 'Rubber Necking' damn shameful :(

    • @tomholloway7566
      @tomholloway7566 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I know it is Matt, I’ve heard that term associated with people slowing down to look at road traffic accidents and other incidents since I was a kid in the 60’s 😔

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomholloway7566 Human beings never fail to disappoint 😂

  • @paynemaker
    @paynemaker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beefy for sure. I agree with it needing a clear case back. Very nice finishing. Good job 👍🏻 Maybe someone will create a micro laser welder for horotechs that doesn’t require a kidney and a few toes to purchase.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      hahah it would be awesome for sure. Such a waste of money though considering its a once in a blue moon job :(

  • @epicv7dayz824
    @epicv7dayz824 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I literally watched this with my mouth wide open. Just so enthralled with it. Nice work mate 👍

  • @petercampbell3828
    @petercampbell3828 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Panerai seems to be a polarizing brand. I like them. The size of most models would be a challenge for my wrist though.
    As per your drive home, unfortunately that is the world we are living in.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are very beefy for sure. I just love how unique they are from a case prospective and of course the simplicity of the dial.

  • @grahams8468
    @grahams8468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another awesome and informative video thank you Matt

  • @ElderPinto254
    @ElderPinto254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wauw nice panarai !!! camera looks good nice and crispy on the screen..

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Elder. Yeah I'm still very chuffed with this microscope cam. It delivers!

    • @ElderPinto254
      @ElderPinto254 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HorologyBiology yepp on my new computerscreen it looks great... The screen i use now its unforgiving .. realy looks good.. The watch to haha sometime a litlle camera feedback is good to

  • @shadowfilm7980
    @shadowfilm7980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite watch. Own a Luminor Due. Great watch. Love the sizes of Panerai watches. Masculine.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. I do like the unique case design of Panerai

  • @khronosbest9448
    @khronosbest9448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice one Matt ! Insofar as the dial shearing the feet...i wouldnt be surprised if the shear mass of that dial is just too much for those feet to bear.
    Seems like with a sharp enough jolt the dial just might snap those tiny feet right off.
    Maybe Panerai already knows this is a problem.Might help if you gave them a call and related this situation.
    As always thank you for your time and effort to show us how its done. 🍻

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s exactly what I think as well. I would have have thought it to be a bit of a known issue though but I didn’t find much online about it.

  • @revisionair
    @revisionair 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as allways, many thanks.
    My suggestion would be to support the juwel of the center wheel while pressing the cannon pinion on it. Sometimes this needs a liitle bit too much pressure and then the risk of pushing this juwel out of it´s correct position becomes very likely.
    Therefore i do this job directly after having mounted the plate which holds the center wheel in place, obviously requiring the turn over of the plate for an addional time, but believe me it´s worth it. Reudjusting the juwel takes much more time.
    Greeting from old Europe

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many thanks for tip, I'll bear this in mind for sure. Thanks for watching :)

  • @realwarriorscholar
    @realwarriorscholar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would put the movement in a titanium case with an exhibition case back. Nice video. Subscribed.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the sub! Glad you enjoyed 👍🏻

  • @alexiskander7367
    @alexiskander7367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been loving the videos so much!

  • @johnnyarsenault9124
    @johnnyarsenault9124 ปีที่แล้ว

    Humble opinion:
    Strangely: I really wonder if the dial has ever been re-attached? Your watch has a 6498-2 which is a variant of the 6498-1, the 6498-2 is usually COSC & high beat compared to the 6498-1 (much slower).The 6498-1 has NEVER had a problem with their dial feet whatsoever & the high beat should not be the problem. If the problem persists the clearance between the dial and canon pinions should be watched attentively(the original feets could have been bent(non intentionally) and cause havoc! 😱☠️👿🫣
    Beautiful work as usual on your part 👌❤️👍
    Like you said nice finish on that movement: 👌❤️👍
    Have nice day my friend! 👍

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      I spoke with my friend about it and if really warming towards the dial got replaced. I just see no evidence of a repair. I just hope for him they didn't swap a T Swiss T with a L Swiss L lolol
      Clearance was good, I just think its too thinner dial feet on a very very thick dial.

  • @andyyoung3233
    @andyyoung3233 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh yeah the dial feet thing that will keep happening because the dial is to heavy for the standard feet it needs thicker feet and open out the holes on the chasse do this in oil then mill the back of the dial and turn down some stock bar on lathe so you have wider feet keeping the bottom wide like a drawing pin shape if you get that I'm not explaining this very well but basically it's a design issue heaver dial with out thicker feet. Andy.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's plan B. It really is a bad design having a dial that unnecessarily thick. It's brass 100% so why so thick?!?
      As I can easily see the watch again that would be the plan. mill it down and use those genric feet with the spaces on the bottom.

    • @andyyoung3233
      @andyyoung3233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HorologyBiology that's what i was trying to sa,y double sided sticky tape work well to lol

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣

  • @bertiew7499
    @bertiew7499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely watch, would look good on my wrist

  • @anthonyperna2034
    @anthonyperna2034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a master!!

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      lol hardly! Thanks for watching 👍👍👍

  • @Ba_Yegu
    @Ba_Yegu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy Super Fresh Cow! I've here the Technical Drawing of ETA 6498 original dial and it says the standard thickness as 0.43mm! That's the thickness and thus weight the dial feet are designed to withstand.
    Why did Panerai sacrifice the structure strength only for looks?

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Damnnnn, you went next level detective on this one ☝️😂

  • @huynh09
    @huynh09 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the video and Content!

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you do much

  • @andyyoung3233
    @andyyoung3233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mat been waiting for you to do a video and it was well worth the wait to mate, I've got a homage case with open back have a seagull movement but the dam second hand wont fit on it where do you get your parts from? I'd like a video on buying parts which sites to visit and all that there's not a lot of good videos on this could you do one think it would get views. Thanks mate, Andy.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers Andy.
      Parts wise its just the hunt! Various places from watch fairs to eBay. No way I will drop a full video of all my secret places though :P

    • @andyyoung3233
      @andyyoung3233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HorologyBiology Sir make the video you hoarder lol

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahha never!!!!!! My secret love sources 😜😜

  • @lilchaparro9126
    @lilchaparro9126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superfresh video bro

  • @moboei
    @moboei ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That strap is really nice. Do you have a link?

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Here you go
      www.amazon.nl/dp/B09GJZSCNZ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1&psc=1

  • @ajh5407
    @ajh5407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, I’ve just recently found your channel. As far as watching accidents I’m on your side. Don’t forget though public executions and punishments used to draw crowds. Maybe we haven’t evolved much since then sadly.

  • @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
    @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This watch is vintage? It looks very contemporary?

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not to sure most people would understand it listed as ‘this contemporary Panerai watch’ 🤣 but I hear you 👍🏻 thanks for watching 😊

    • @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
      @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HorologyBiology what I meant was it doesn't look 30+ years old. Having said that 30+ years ago 1993 and previous so watches from that era would look modern I suppose.

    • @luihed
      @luihed ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv this watch is from 1999 but looks exactly like a panerai from 1993

  • @originalboondi
    @originalboondi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 part epoxy also comes in 5 minutes cure time. I use it in preference to the slow cure stuff, every time.....

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll have a look into that stuff. Cheers for watching ☺️

  • @Trevorpartington-yc6ri
    @Trevorpartington-yc6ri 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice watch but the size always puts me off, size and crown guard that is.
    Saying that I do like the look of them.
    Great video as always mate ;-)

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching Trevor, appreciated 😀

  • @mikewazowski6161
    @mikewazowski6161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    looks like a special version ! You don´t have to turn your wrist to read the time correctly ! 😂

  • @ygrbooks
    @ygrbooks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing this on TH-cam. While I love your enthusiasm for watches, your gushing about this one is not really justified. Just because Panerai had three of the bridges decorated and some screws blued, the overall impression of the movement is not good: tool marks and unrefined edges as well as a lousy service on the dial screws speak for themselves. Their watches today are much, much worse, admittedly, but this one was extremely expensive and is just a manually wound (no seconds) time-telling watch.

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment, It is true that I gush a little over older Panerai's. I just really love how this case aged. Plus it belongs to someone I know. I agree about the dial feet issue but I'm really warming to it being over the thickness of the dial. I'm surprised others haven't had this issue.
      Don't watch any of my Enicar videos as the gushing levels would be too much to handle lol. I highly collect that brand so have a natural bias 😂

    • @stevewilliams5428
      @stevewilliams5428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HorologyBiology I considered buying one of these when they were new, but the ETA movement was a 50 dollar item dressed up in a fancy case, I have two enicars, one from my grandfather and I'm keeping them!!!

  • @TailSpinRCSpain
    @TailSpinRCSpain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a big boy ! LOL.

  • @francishagen8508
    @francishagen8508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Takk!

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻😊

  • @Wmu5
    @Wmu5 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not use some 2way tape???

  • @tomwillshaw2808
    @tomwillshaw2808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are you from? Been trying to figure out your accent for the whole video 😂

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว

      UK, although I have lived in NL for nearly 20 years. Thanks for stopping by 👍

  • @indiosveritas
    @indiosveritas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Panerai quality has plummeted in recent years.
    Parts faling off , loose internal mechanisms, and overall poor metal milling !

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely not as good as they used to be but I still like the unique look of the brand.

    • @indiosveritas
      @indiosveritas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @HorologyBiology
      Very good looking .
      So much so that I cannot wear it when walking the streets of LA.☹️

    • @HorologyBiology
      @HorologyBiology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@indiosveritas I hear you on that. Still tho, looks fresh on your wrist in the living room :)

    • @indiosveritas
      @indiosveritas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HorologyBiology 😄

    • @jeffreytruong8918
      @jeffreytruong8918 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im going to test it im riding on a motorbike ,fighting with it lol

  • @DutchClawz
    @DutchClawz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The decorations are the only way they can try to differentiate from the $100 original eta movement🥲