Was I WRONG About Panerai Watches?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
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I bought my first Panerai 3.5 years ago. Sold it soon after... then got to missing it... a lot. Bought the same model back again (at an even better price), then another one... and another... I've now purchased 20 of the things. Twelve are still around in the collection. They have their own watchbox. One is for sale, so I guess I haven't completely lost my mind. :)
Anyway, I guess you could call me a fan. I have other watches in the collection, some really nice ones in fact. Yet when it comes time to select the watch of the day, Panerai gets the honor much of the time. I think that they are some of the best pre-owned value out there today.
For instance I have an Equation of Time that cost me not much more than a run-of-the-mill Omega. For a high complication like that?? The watch has so many parts to the movement that it weighs more than a gas BBQ. To get an EoT in one of the other few brands producing one is approaching mid-five figures. Setting aside the question of who actually needs an EoT, it is a cool and unique complication.
I also recently picked up a red gold, 1 of 150 LE. Stunning. It has an in-house skeletonized movement that is finished so well I would put it up against Patek. Not the same brand cache, but nowhere near the same price tag either.
And then there is the legendary PAM 190. The movement is actually a JLC 877, with the Panerai OP designation of course. Incredible movement. I now know why JLC is considered the watchmaker's watch.
YMMV, but once you get into the brand, you realize how different each piece is, despite the initial impression that they are subtle variations on the same design. And if you're into straps, as I am, so many options to change up the look.
Thank you my friend! I can definitely see a rabbit hole to fall into!
Since MWC has passed 100k subscribers the watches he reviews have been going upmarket. After 200k subscribers will he drop Casio Corner for Cartier Corner?!
crazy stays crazy. it's completely fine.
It’s Beater watch show next my friend. I love all watches except CLOMAGES
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR definitely more my kind of level then 😂 I know your love for Casio will never die
@@user-iz9co4qf6z NEVER
Never really been a fan of manual watches, and interesting history about the brand.
but that's a cool watch just the same , and I have 9 inch wrists, so I like bigger watches.
So much of Panerai’s modern history - Stallone story and all - is complete and utter bollocks. Perezscope did a super expose on much of this (the ‘ship of fools’ photo in particular is very interesting).
I read it. I don't believe half of what Perezscope writes. He makes money being controversial. That is his thing.
@@WINDINGCROWNS Perezcope is an investigative journalist not some "influencer" looking for clout. I have seen his works and think its important to point out that he has provided proof to all his claims. You should go read some of his publications and you'll understand why he's actually respected by most and hated by some.
@@borinken_foliage8003 investigative reporter? So is TMZ & The National Enquirer. Those two also make money from controversy not the normal news. I do understand that Perezscope found a niche for himself in the watch world that no one else is doing. That's good for him. I'm just saying that I and a lot of watch enthusiasts I know can careless about the controversy. The Panerai brand were used by Italian Frogmen. That fact that Sylvester Stallone didn't truly discover the brand isn't really important. Perez seems to think so though. 😂
I didn't expect it to look this good on your wrist but somehow it does!
was in doubt and bought one (177). I must say I absolutely love it. It's so fun to wear, and it is way more comfortable than you would expect, thanks to the sloped bezel and flat caseback.
I was put off Panerai when I found out it was near impossible to differentiate between some of their Genuine watches and a top drawer fake..I Love their Dials though❤
Yes me to MrM!
Same with rolex…and many others
Yep, i wouldnt buy one without box and papers. Even the new movements have been cloned now. Love mine though.
I am amazed, they happen to be ugly and bland looking, all at the same time.
I have 3 Panerai. A beautiful 111 that I purchased 17 years ago, a Submersible and a 45mm Radiomir. I really enjoy having them in my collection. Changing the straps on them is a lot of fun. Totally changes the personality of the watch.
I have the new 40mm Quaranta and I love it. I’ve owned a few 44mm versions and even a 38mm Due, but the 40mm Quaranta is the sweet spot for me. The crown guard, the legibility, the wearability, all come together to create a perfect watch. And it’s an absolute strap monster!
The first pic you showed is why we are called “ Frogmen “ . That wetsuit was made by Pirelli and was green in colour with non detachable fins … hence “ Frogman “ ;)
Superb knowledge!!!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTORours , the Royal Navy ‘s , early suits were made by Dunlop ;)
Great video! Love my pam00050. 40mm from 1999 with the awesome 90’s bracelet that I don’t have the heart to take it off of. 300m, automatic, hacking. Still a tank, but a bit more manageable at that size for my 6.5-6.75 inch wrist.
Just the guy. I wear smaller watches (Explorer 1, Cartier santos 29, largest I have is BB58), I have a 6.75’ wrist but don’t like big and flashy). Saying that… I’ve stumbled across a PAM00049 (40mm, similar to yours I think but white dial). In my head it’s the perfect summer holiday watch and I’m thinking of pulling the trigger. It’s on a rubber strap but plan on getting a few different colourways. Is it really that much of a tank? Is it the thickness? Cheers!
I had a similar feeling to you. Then, at a loose end in the AD, I tried one on. Quite liked it. Bought one 😂
This one Panerai I always liked is The Panerai Luminor chronograph with the Zenith El primero movement from the early 2000s 40mm case size
the vostok panerai is very nice. good lume too!
Is it Vostok or Panerai?
I recently bought a 45mm Radiomir Pam01385 I think. Chocolate brown. Somehow it fits great. I mostly wear 39 to 42mm.
Outside of Hublot or RM which brands are more polarising ?😂
0:49 haha. I’m with you. Almost a ‘king of shaves’ vibe to the logo innit?
Love the channel mate. Only recently subscribed. Are you or have you done any reviews on pointed German watch brands.
Love it, been thinking about getting a homage as no way I could spend that much on one. 6 3/4 wrist may also be a bit big too.
That was so interesting, maybe you need to write a book... I'd buy it straight away. Thank you, love all your videos, therapy on a cloudy day! PS I'm serious about the book suggestion..
I built a few off brand versions of these using ETA clones and I love the feel of the watch. Even with the size it doesnt feel that large on the wrist.
We defo need a wifey top ten best and worst!
Absolutely love my Luminor Marina, yes it is larger but for me that was the point. The watch is comfortable and I am so excited you featured one on your show. I like others here, would suggest buying new rather than used unless you go to a very very reputable shop you trust..
I have a Pam 0074 which is a 40mm luminor marina chronograph. It’s from 2003 and has an El Primero movement. Even though it’s 40 mm you get the same Panerai look and feel and it fits my six and three-quarter inch wrist very well. Another tidbit, unlike the Daytona, this version of the El Primero beats at 36,000 VPH and is COSC certified. I also ordered your watch. Looking forward to getting it on the wrist.
Best watch you've reviewed lately. Panerai are traditionally 47mm so try the PAM 372 or Submersible Pam 0389 from Expendables 3 next?
If you can wear a G Shocker, than you can sure carry off a Panerai On off the few brands with a unique design foot print
It’s a beautiful watch, but it’s still a bit large.
“That’s what she said!”
“Quiet.”
Entertaining informative as usual! Thanks!
I have a 42mm PAM1393 and 6.25" flat wrists and it fits perfectly. It's actually a really comfortable watch. 42mm is my max though.
I went into B&Q and asked for their luxury watches and they directed me to the kitchen clocks ⏰
😂
For whatever reason, Panerai just doesn't interest me at all. But I'm glad so many people enjoy them.
They have a following. I love mine. I know they aren't for everyone. But for those of ua with larger sized wrists, they certainly wear well and look great.
That wingspan is first gen Lunar Pilot.
53 lug to lug , crazy 🤪. 15 cm wrist me need not apply. Feel like perezscope needs a mention with Pams. Cheers Russel, fun review!
I think that looks great on you! Big watches for big boys.
Initially I said I’d never wear a piece that huge! Then I went and tried it on. It’s really not that big. It feels sturdy, and looks good. I also grabbed the base luminor and it’s been a pleasant addition to my collection.
Thanks for this one Russ, still not something I would wear maybe but you have definitely put Panerais in a new light for me.
That was a particularly good episode. Your wife is a saint, bless her heart.
I really appreciate Panerai, they’ve got such a unique look and history but they’d be pretty far down my watch wish list. What do you buy as a watch enthusiast who has everything from the big names in watches? A Panerai I guess.
Great stuff MWC 👏👏👏
I might be wrong but I thought that Stallone picked out the metal bracelet stop watch that was based on the ETA 7750.. It was later sold as the Daylight model . I had one !
It would feel like winding a pocket watch since the movement in that watch is basically a Unitas pocket watch movement. Not high on my wish list but I'd probably buy one at the right price.....like 60% off
Only TGV can pull off a Panerai, for you and I, Arnie (or G-shock) it is! BTW, we have the same 6 1/2" wrist and generally similar tastes (which is why I love this channel). This was entertaining in watching a train wreck about to happen sort of way. Good show mate!
TGV is a shit stain
My stepdad finally gave up his special edition Breitling, trading to a historic Panerai Luminor.
It's astounding, uncomplicated, and the right size for him. It'd bury me, and I can carry off a Duro and a Bulova Lunar Pilot with the right strap.
Such a cool watch.
It actually doesn’t look bad on you. 🤷♂️👍
I know!!!!!! I thought it was gonna look like a kitchen wall clock!!!
Can you tell me where i can buy the Casio WV-300, module 3034 ?
So Stallone was my favorite actor growing up as a kid in the 90s in the USA, especially Daylight and Cobra, cant tell you how many times i watched it with my grandpa, may he rest in peace. I’ve been obviously longing for a Luminor Marina for years but I’m a 39/40mm watch guy and didn’t think id ever be able to pull off a 44mm with 53mm lug to lug on my 6.75” wrist. I have to be honest, it doesn’t look nearly as big as i thought it would and your wrist is even a little smaller than mine. Do the lugs curve down a lot or is there some paneristi sorcery at play here? I think its still too big for me personally as much as i adore the watch, if I’m going to spend that much money I’m going for a Speedy. Cheers my friend!
Bell & Ross next? I have Vintage 123.... its gorgeous with insane lume.
Russell, I’m surprised you haven’t tried one of these before because you like the Seiko Arnie and most of Panerai’s “smaller” pieces are similar in wear to that one.
Great review and a great introduction to the brand. Hugh Grant wears one (maybe your wife will reconsider in light of this news)
At first sight, I thought they were ugly. But after wearing the 40 mm I really like it. I’m hoping to buy one within the next year
Russell you are the only channel which I will watch no matter what the subject! I have no interest in buying a Panerai but you are always passionate, funny and informed. MWC is to watches what the Grand Tour is to cars ❤ 🎉
Have you had an Omega ploprof on the channel ? such a great watch even for a big watch at that they even do the baby ploprof.
Been into the Panerai game a long time, and had my share of different refs. Down to the Pre Vendome 5218-201/A non matching. The PreVs has my only interest these days. All the new stuff not. The OP logo actually was to signal that back in the day, Panerai made equipment for above and below land (helicopter and underwater).
One of the better wife segments I've seen😅
It is very nice and looks alright on your wrist.
Looks great on you. Proper man's watch, that.
I really would like to own 5 more Panerai (specifically Luminor) watches in the near future. I dont feel the same about other watch brands, and dont know why.
That looks GREAT on you!!
thanks for still keeping it real
Almost 5k, a "tactical" watch and no hacking ???? Seiko get's slated for not having hacking in their sub 200 dollar watches. Panerai get's a pass ???? Doesn't make sense.
Who’s knocking a Seiko?
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Oops, never meant you exactly mate. A common theme, SNK 809 or SKX013 never were offered with hacking which I agree with. I've upgraded my SNK809 to an NH36. Baffling reissue OG Omega Moon Watch is still SANs hacking at the price point. Is the watch buying community being duped by the industries "heritage," "tradition," "one for one copy," jargon? Wink... wink... Shouldn't the Speedy have an AR Sap crystal, hacking and a ceramic bezel by now ? Am I missing something? Ugh...
Bro do a hmt automatic watch review, im sure you will love that watch
Stick it on a Marine Nationale strap & you'll be good to go!
I was put off by them after the scandal about their movements. A limited edition with closed back was opened and no decoration on it what so ever, which for the price was a big deal. But I can't help but like some of their pieces. I need to disagree with you re. Oris, I think they have built some new movements from the ground up, whereas Panerai have just modified ETA recently, I may be wrong? Their prices were already high as well.
Ty these infos!!!!!!!
For slimmer wrists there is the PAM 00048, which in my opinion is the good choice.
Baltany do a case with a nod to the Radiomir with one piece curved lug that is locked to the case with screws through the case back - recently with a Cali-fornia dial [no thanks]
One of my favorite watches and a grail watch I want to own.
Looks great on your wrist! Somehow a Pam looks ‘natural’ being huge.
I like the sandwich dials and crown guards on this brand ... Not keen on the ones with the fancy crown guard but poor 50m WR... Wasted
Jeeeez.. the Missus really ain't Keen is She!?😂😂
I'm a big Panerai fan...own 2008 Luminor GMT all steel and just changed out to rubber strap (very cool). Now just bought Omega Seamaster 300 .... not the style with helium release. Keep trying Panerai and u 2 will become a Paneristi
I’m after the 40mm version at the moment, but they are so expensive, even 2nd hand
Russel you gotta do something about the radium girls and the watches they made that would be crazy
That asymmetrical position of the small seconds, what an eyesore..
Love the brand and hate the brand, but they are so unique and fun. The dials are so nice. The cases are beyond unique. The quality is quite good, but the movements leave a little to be desired. I bought the Quarenta recently. At 40mm, it's perfect.
I believe there’s a 38mm version of it. That’s the one I have on my radar for a while.
Base model PAMs are the best. I even prefer the Liminot that only has an hour and minute hand.
one of tgv favorites,but=still too big for 6.5 (very nice tool watch) i strongly disagree about not making a 38mm ...
That first line sounded like a Mad rap 😊
It looks great on you Russell. You should keep it. And if you dont fancy it, I'll gladly take it 😁
I did a custom build with an NH35 in a Panerai-style case that's this same style, but 40mm with a 20mm lug width. Wears so good.
Sorry, but nothing beats a real Panerai.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Probably not, but beatrate is the same, looks are exactly what I wanted, and cost was less that $150. I don't try to pass it off as a Panerai either, it's my own custom build, and I don't try to hide it.
They are big buggers lovely though. I like u boats alot they have crazy twisted dials and crystals but they panorai look like micro watches
Totally agree on the wife’s opinion…I prefer Tudor BB58 over this as a divers Watch any day of the week!
Everyone needs 1 Panerai in there watch collection.
At this price level, if it doesn't hack... nah, m8.
I just read an open letter to Panerai to (respectfully) stop putting the Navy SEAL trident emblem on the watch face of some of their watches because they are reserved for those who earned it.
why must you tempt me with a video like this...
Finally! thank sfor gave me an answer :)
Oh Boy this is a stunner, so glad you gave this one a review, its the mutts nuts
"Too big" - well, another way to say it is "I have tiny wrists". In my case, with a 19.5cm left wrist, Panerais work really well - 44mm and up that is. Rolexes look like I am wearing a toy watch. Pateks - wait a minute - I never had the means to own a Patek (ha, ha). But they would be tiny for me as well. G-shocks!!!!! Yeah baby. Those fit me very well. But I prefer Panerais over any other watch. Period.
I love your reviews
Love their designs especially the Luminor Marina but the movement just puts me off.
Sooo important for me! I love watches!
If you don't buy a Panerai for yourself, man, you're wrong, on your wrist it looks great! I got the pam 1084, splendid watch and superb strap.
Sold out. Unlike your tennis lessons.
What even does this mean?
005 doesn’t have a sandwich but sausage dial.
I love my Pam 1033 ,thanks 👍🏴❤️
Love my PAM 01104 … 👏🏼 ❤
I was hoping the wife said " Its enormous, fetch me the carpenter with the wrist to carry it off"
I prefer Gshock Mudmaster 😂
I honestly think it looks good on you mate.
It has wrist presence. And "your arm will be bigger on that side for some reason"