"Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. This was a time of vast kingdoms and forgotten realms, where ancient secrets and powerful magics lay hidden beneath the sands and seas." Great episode LA❤
I think Lucian has a Lord of the Rings vid about that exact subject. Or maybe it was just a comment I read in one of his vids. I agree, these stories really illustrate the power of sheer will & ambition/dreams. Conan became King through his own merit. Deeds earned through merit is extremely frowned upon in modern day soyciety.
It's a tragic shame Robert E. Howard didn't win his battle. His stories are interesting, terrific fun. Had he been able to do more, his craft would have only gotten better. Eventually publishing and rights deals would have probably afforded him a better cut. He needed an attorney as go between. His stories are THE litmus for Pulp.
Great episode! I would like to point out that Frank Frazetta iconic artwork on Conan's Paperback covers was key in the revival of the Conan franchise leading up to the 1982 movie visual style. Besides his artwork on the movie poster, there was a nod to his Egyptian queen artwork in one the palace sequence. Frazetta is arguably the greatest high fantasy artist of all time. Very primal and sexual. So electrifying. A real master of the moment. of light and shadow. influenced so many other artist. Dino the producer wanted to buy his famous cat girl artwork but he refused! lol. If you are interested, there is a documentary about him called Painting with Fire.
You took the words out of my mouth! I have his posters hanging all over my house. Egyptian Queen. Snow Giants. Atlantis. Silver Warrior. Seven Romans. Great artist.
I have been an avid Conan fan ever since I was a child. My all time hero. I collect all his stories. And it was because of those stories that I knew there had been very advanced ancient civilizations in our past. The names in the Conan stories are all linked. Everything is linked. I think Robert E. Howard was onto something much bigger and shared it as stories starring Conan. I am quite surprised that someone (you) mentioned Conan in your videos. Very cool! Glad to see the world is awakening. Thank you for your videos. I love them, by the way!
i didnt learn to appreciate conan until after i learend about all the esoteric things hidden online. now it really resonates with me. we were once so much more and now evil rules and the world is fed their lies.
Yes. Authors like him and especially Edgar Rice Boroughs John Carter series have always made me wonder about certain members being privy to hidden knowledge.
There was a lot of mystery school activity in those days, Blavatsky, Steiner, Crowley, Edgar Casey ect. Pretty much anyone of note including US presidents and their wives to authors and scientist had connections to one or more people or groups like this, its pretty crazy. the channel Dark Journalist has done tons of research into that kind of stuff and has quite a few good videos and podcast on the mystery schools and their odd connections to all these people and subjects.
@@tomtom7955Yes, DJ does some good work. For those that don't know, check out his documentary style video from a couple weeks ago. I'm sure you'll find it interesting and also explains why certain elite types are doing what they are, preparing for great Earth Changes of land masses. 😊
I collected all the paperback collections of Conan stories from the 60's lancet publishing as a child. The original antagonist of his age was Thoth Amon. Thulsa Doom must be from the later comics or something because I was first introduced to the character in the 82' film. I read somewhere long ago that Howard told a close companion that he didn't invent the character of Conan. He said he channeled his spirit, or the spirit of Conan revealed itself to him and shared the history/details of the hyborean age along with his life story. I was much younger when I read that, and it sounded kinda crazy. But I've learned much since then, and being reminded by your vid of his relationship with HP Lovecraft this idea no longer sounds beyond the realm of possibility. I read each book numerous times in my youth, and even though I've moved many times around the US they are still in my collection. I hope this comment reaches you, for this Idea that he claimed to be channeling the spirit of Conan adds a very compelling wrinkle to the questions you are posing about the true nature of our history, and reality itself. Cheers
Obviously Hyperborea is current Finland while Nordheim is Sweden and Norway. In short story "Legions of the Dead" by L. Sprague de Camp and Lin Carter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legions_of_the_Dead the leader of Hyperboreans is "Witch Queen Louhi" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louhi the main antagonist from Finnish national epic Kalevala. Conan's home Cimmeria could be located in sunken Doggerland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland although Doggerland could be also Atlantis as well.
Nice video. Great stuff right up my alley. Huge REH fan. Some of the speculation in this video can be cleared up with his other short stories. Some of his influences are with semi famous books available to him in Texas. Ignatius Donnelly’s work being a big one. Howard was trying to make sense of ancient history through his own lens, and he meshes together a number of theories. One interesting aspect of Howard’s perspective is the “de-evolution” of various races of humans or proto-humans. This is sometimes used to a reason why a great empire would fall. Another interesting thing to consider is the speed at which he would write these stories. He said that the stories would just come to him in his head, and he was compelled to write them in order to achieve a form of relief.
Love this film, especially the production design. John Millius suggested that Thulsa Doom was the remnant of an older race which had faded out. The “Atlantean sword” is a powerful scene. Love it man great work as always.
Right on par. I was rewatching the classic Conan movies like 3 days ago. Trying to catch new things I might of missed. As it pertains to Tartaria. Can’t wait to check this out in a bit. Appreciate what you do champ. 🔥
Love Connan when it was released along with the other fantasy so-called stories. I believe these are basted on mythology, which was based on real events.so many reset movies were produced when I was younger in the 1970s and 1980s. Even Star Wars tells a reset story, "A long time ago....". The past civilization fantasy and sword stories always seemed more real than not. We have built our civilizations on top of all of these foundation era hiding the proof hundreds feet below ground. If any archeological items around found which do not match current narrative it is just ignored like it does not exist. Totally hilarious, ignored like a child going la la la and plugin their ears. I do not let that bother me anymore. It does not matter if others believe. Thank you LA. Happy Memorial day and thank you for your service.
During the ice age ocean levels were 500 feet lower and humanity lived in that biome as it was the warmest area to live. During the bronze age the ocean was over 200 feet lower, During the bronze age collapse something happened to raise sea levels drastically by over 100 feet essentially drowning civilization at the time. Most of human civilization is over 200 feet below the waters of the world. Conans world is early to mid bronze age were iron was hard to find, steel was a metal of the gods and yellow bronze was worth more than gold. Who knows what creatures and conditions humanity had to put up with During such times. It truly was a time of adventure and "magic".
@krs4976 after a very brief look up I had come across a similar theory that there was a heavy ice layer over the atmosphere at one time, which makes sense because even today there's smaller lighter ice layers that form from time to time, which is why perfect weather is required for rocket launches do to ice Crystal's. The theory goes a very large asteroid ( dinosaur killer) broke the ice layer and created a global flood from the impact, also off gassing the 48 times thicker atmosphere that could support large plants and animals, creating a mass extinction event. Makes sense to me and is a better explanation than anything else floating around in the mainstream community.
Idt the sea levels rose 100 feet during the bronze age collapse... It looks like the only rose 3-4ft during that period, and over the course of decades.
But the main message of the movie was that flesh is stronger than steel. Conan's sword broke, but his friends who truly loved him from their hearts did stick with him to the end and even beyond. What is steel in comparsion to the hand that wields it?
If humans have been here for 100,000- 200,000 years like we're taught then yes, Hyperborea could very well be real. I guess after the sun melts the ice cap up north we'll find out for sure.
Or if land rises in various parts of the world. Japanese media talked about certain few islands that rose up out of the ocean, I cant remember how long ago, maybe the early 90s. But I think the Govt suppressed it.
Ah no. If the ice caps melt, and the water rises, then land mass decreases, as it gets flooded by water. Its not so much a shifting of the waters but the shifting of the poles and perhaps the axis of the Earth - that changes where the equator is and which lands are covered by snow & ice and which are not. This is likely what happened during one of the cataclysms of our past.
The OG Conan movie has less to do with a lot of the actual source material of the Conan stories, with the 2011 being more true to the source material but not being as good of a movie in comparison to the original. It's always good to see more people talk about the Conan series on TH-cam though since it is one of my favorite series, and I do plan on making some of my own lore content on here eventually discussing a lot of it, as well as bringing to light some of the mysteries or obscure things in the lore that Howard provided us even in his short run.
I've often wondered if pulp writers like Robert E Howard and HP Lovecraft were channeling esoteric knowledge in their work. Howard particularly had knowledge of Lemuria and Mu.
What about Jules Verne? His moon capsule was almost exactly the same dimensions as the actual Apollo capsule was decades later. He almost perfectly described nuclear/steam powered subs almost a century before they happened with the nautilus&nemo. He also predicted massive buildings with central cooling etc.
Maybe Robert E.Howard have been to these places and witnessed everything ,the said thing thing can be said about JR Tolkien too,it never ceases to amazed me how creative they are or as if they were there during those events occurred
Since science fiction authors tend to be pretty accurate in describing future civilizations and technologies in their books thus turning their stories into self fulfilling prophecies, authors of historical fantasy works may be also very accurately be describing past civilizations and events too.
Nah, the focus on "Tartarians" is wrong anyway. The main takeaway from that part of history is knowing that history was altered and watered down to downplay the significance of that region, it wasn't the magical group that built all the old-buildings around the world. Barbars were always North African's in history, which is actually another interesting region that the history has been wiped (Mauritania, etc.). My thoughts on Conan and Robert E. Howard is that he was well read on these aspects of history that are considered "occult" these days and created his own version of what it could have been. If he wasn't well read, than he is simply a proxy like Nik Tesla.
@@williambelmont9601 I'm on the same line about this. It's simple really. We all can read about the past and, if creatively inclined, our fertile minds, spurred on by a divine spark of inspiration, can churn out many interesting wondrous worlds. Not like R.E. Howard is any exception. However, it carries a problem - over the course of time actual historic origins of things become increasingly blurred.
Strange that this story is in the bible, since sorcery and witches were so taboo. Priests these days don't do magic, or do they? "Aaron threw his staff in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a serpent. 11 Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and sorcerers, and they-along with the Egyptian magicians-did the same thing with their secret arts. 12 So each one threw down his staff and it became a serpent, but Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh’s heart was stubborn[a] and he did not listen to them, just as the Lord had said would happen.
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Conan is Cimmerian, is Hyperborea the age he is in. That conan movie is one of my all time favorites. I also have like 300 conan comics that are some of my favorite. Red Sonya, Valeria, Belit', awesome female characters. Edit: ok, i just needed to watch for 5 mins, lol, i got Kull the conquerer too
27:16. This is my own personal opinion but i think Robert E. Howard was either part of some Mystery School and had learned some level of Esoteric Knowledge, or Theosophy and chose to release certain knowledge he had learned through his Fantasy story. Or it may be an erased memory of a past life he may have lived in that particular time; ofwhich he was subconsciously tapping into either through his dreams, or if he had ever given any readings. This has happened with various individuals throughout history. I believe all these places were real, Hyborea, Atlantis. The King in the Conan story and how tall he was, Independant Archeologists have discovered giant skeletons in parts of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and many other parts of the middle-east. But authorities and Govts have always taken them away where they've ended up locked in vaults or kept in places like the Smithsonian. Even giant Iron Axes and Swords have been discovered. One massive Samurai sword found in Japan is kept on display in one of their Museums. I believe Giants were definitely Real thousands of years ago, and Gigantism is carried on through genetics to this day in some people. In Academic Education we are never taught about civilizations past the ancient Egyptians, or Incas and Aztecs. They never teach about the Sunerians and Babylonians. Such ideas and indepth descriptions do not come into the mind from nothing. Our subconscious is very powerful. It can drive the Individuals imagination.
We learned about the Sumerians and civilizations of the near east multiple times throughout my high school and elementary education, you guys need to stop allowing your presumptions to run wild. Doing so while criticizing another individual’s ability to design a fictional world is deeply ironic… if you step back, you’ll see that these presumptions have led you to create a personal mythology and history of your own. Use that energy for creativity and other pursuits that don’t fall under the guise of a search for the “truth” which in reality is based entirely on titanic-scaled presumptions. Such presumptions coalesce into a view of reality that is infinitely less-likely than that proposed by main stream historians.
@@Journeyman107 you missed the point and speak with arrogance brother, you are incredibly naïve if you think the little knowledge you were taught in highschool is suffisable to understand our human past, which has proved to be numerous times more complicated than just sumerians appearing out of nowhere and starting civilization. You aren't ready for any type of truth yet, and the walls you have created outside of your mind keeps it from expanding further and reaching new conclusions. You never evolved past the comprehension of human history that you had when you where 8 years old and you think you got it all figured out ?
@@mad.attila6488 you wouldn’t consider vehemently denying scholarly consensus arrogance? you think you have special access to or a connection to secret knowledge? That you are special because you examined the mountains of proposed evidence for alternate history theories, some of which is even featured prominently on mainstream television nowadays? you are an angry avatar of the ancient warrior Attila the Hun? You have broken some sort of mental siege and are especially enlightened because you are an armchair historian? That all seems extraordinarily arrogant and naive as well eh
The way I see Conan himself is fictional but the world he inhabits has historical elements thrown in you really get the sense that somebody like Conan really existed in the world that’s the beauty of it.
Thank you for covering this. This theory has been with me for many decades after 1st reading Tolkien, Lovecraft, and Howard when I was much younger. Whether it was imagination, channeled or remembered through DNA doesn’t take away from the knowing you get when reading or watching something your very essence knows is the truth.
REH wrote a story -- KINGS OF THE NIGHT -- in which Bran Mak Morn fought a battle against a Roman army by enlisting the aid of another barbarian army from the Brittanic isles . . . but they wouldn't fight under him, only under a King whom they could follow. So Bran Mak Morn managed to magically call forth the long-dead Atlantean barbarian Kull, who had been king of Valusia 100,000 years before. The Bran Mak Morn stories take place when the Romans were still in Britain, a period of time which lasted from AD 43 to 410. The "100,000 years" figure seems like a round figure, but I think it's fair to say that Kull must have been Valusia's king roughly 99,600 BC at the latest. The map of the Thurian Continent has the date "18,000 BC" on it, but that cannot be right, given the evidence from REH's Bran Mak Morn/Kull crossover story. As for when Conan's life was lived, REH never explicitly stated when, but I like to think it was sometime when the astrological Age of Leo last happened, from 10,900 to 8,740 BC, closer to the beginning of that Age, with Conan's life 'inaugurating' it. Just for fun, I imagined that the "Sons of Aryas" whom REH mentions in his "Hyborean Age" essay were descendants of Conan -- perhaps survivors of the cataclysm that rocked the world after Conan's kingship over Aquilonia. Conan had been known as "Amra" during his pirate days with Belit ("Queen of the Black Coast"), she being a Shemitish princess/'goddess' worshiped by her crew of Black Corsairs. I like to imagine that through Reincarnation -- a trope REH used in numerous stories -- the Shemite language became 'remembered' in later times as Proto-Hebrew, with the name 'Amra' being related to the Hebrew word 'Ari', which also means 'Lion'. Thus, the 'M' in AMRA drops out -- the word originally having been a way of indicating a lion's roar (i.e. "amm-RRAAHHH" -- kinda like how "bow-wow" represents a dog's vocalisms) -- leaving 'A-RAH', then morphing its ending to 'A-REE', which became spelled 'aRiY [Aleph-Resh-Yod] "roarer"/"lion" -- from 'aRaH "to roar" etc. So, I like to think that a man named Aryas lived and the calendar used by Jews actually dates back to his time, c. 3761 BC, he being a lineal descendant of the 'Amra'-the-Lion hero from millennia before. I like to imagine that from the time of Conan to that of this Aryas guy there were 360 cycles of 19 years, or 6,840 years, which would put Conan's time at 10,601 BC, about 300 years into the astrological Age of Leo. The star Alpha Leonis -- a.k.a. Regulus -- is at 150 degrees along the Ecliptic, i.e. 150 degrees away from the 0 degrees position where the Zodiacal Ecliptic crosses the Celestial Equator. It takes about 72 years for the Earth's wobble to result in a precession of 1 degree, so multiplying 72 x 150 gives us 10,800 years since the time when Regulus was situated at the crossroads of the Ecliptic and the Celestial Equator, when Leo would be the constellation (i.e. zodiac 'Sign') associated with the Vernal Equinox. If THAT is when Conan lived, then we're talking about 10,800 years ago, or roughly 8,800 BC, towards the end of the astrological Age of Leo. Regulus means "Little King" -- with 'little' perhaps referring to a King on the Earth, as opposed to some demigod 'sky'-king. There are about 5,040 years between 8,800 BC and 3760 BC, or 70 x 72, i.e. 70 precessional degrees. So, I'm kinda torn between Conan living c. 10,600 BC or c. 8,800 BC, a difference of 1,800 years or 25 precessional degrees. It's too bad that REH never pinpointed the exact years in the BC era when Conan was born and died; on the other hand, it gives guys like me some wiggle room to speculate wildly about it all!
Conan is a fantasy character from a fantasy version of earth...I just think you needed to be reminded of that simple fact. REH never claimed he was writing "history" he just thought it would be cool to set his story in a pseudo prehistoric setting of our earth.
@@Raussl You know, in re-reading my OP, wherein I state numerous times that "I like to imagine" and finally mention "guys like me . . . speculate wildly about it all" (etc.), I have to wonder why you felt the need to remind me that Conan is a fictional fantasy character. Of COURSE he's a fictional character! As are ALL his characters, including Bran Mak Morn and Kull. I'm sure there are STAR WARS fans who wonder WHICH particular galaxy of the billions in existence is the "galaxy far far away" in which those sci-fi fantasy movies take place, and exactly how long ago "a long time ago" means -- i.e. thousands of years ago? . . . tens of thousands of years ago? . . . hundreds of thousands of years ago? . . . millions of years ago? . . . etc. Do THEY need some wiseass to "remind" them that it's all just fantasy fiction they're wondering about??? If being condescending towards fans of fantasy literature (etc.) is something you have a 'jones' for, then maybe attend the next San Diego Comic-Con and approach each and every cosplay artist who goes out of his/her way to dress up like one of the fictional characters they enjoy watching on TV or in movie theaters and remind THEM -- each and every one of them -- that you feel the need to remind them that they're dressing up like FICTIONAL fantasy characters. Go ahead, do it, c'mon! It's something you'd enjoy doing, I can tell. They're obviously a bunch of deranged fanboys & fangirls who can't tell fantasy from reality, who need YOU to remind them of that "simple fact." Or go to Times Square and get in the face of some guy dressed up like Spider-Man or Elmo and remind THEM that those characters don't exist in reality, etc. etc. Get over yourself.
@@RausslPeople have things that they are passionate about,who are you to be condescending about it? Clearly they know it's fantasy. It's called having an imagination,at one point in time the ability to talk to people in multiple ways around the world on a device that fits in your pocket was fantasy.
The discipline of Krull or Cruel world. Man became beasts after eating the flesh and blood of animals. The Carnal man loses his spirituality and becomes materialistic. The dark ages... Hopefully one day we can return to our original state. Love
I does not matter, if the Hyborian Age ever existed. REH left an important impression in our collective subconscious myth. His stories, among a plethora of folk tales and legends, will be present in our minds, and in the minds of many generations to come.
You'd be surprised how similar what REH wrote is to actual geology and anthropolgy, and there's definitely missing ages and civilizations. Civilizations for sure didn't start in Sumer.
Yeah, funny thing, but as author your created world is where you try to spend your time. You learn it, you grow and prune it, na mate, he straight up made that stuff up. Nothing more. But hella fun reading so I am glad he shared it. Funny thing, but I haven’t read any CONAN since I was a kid and read my dad’s collection, yet I remembered Thulsa Doom as lich. That he is why Conan hates and destroys all magic (good or bad), dude is a hella Tier 1 sorcerer. And in 2nd Ed/AD&D Conan is why the Barbarian class got experience points for destroying magic items, like mad eeps. :)
You make the videos I would about the things I would . You are gaining on Levi as too notch content creator ; but he’s still the best . Keep banging them out my friend
When I was about 10 (I'm 38 now) and first got into fantasy like Conan and LOTR, I couldn’t shake the feeling that these stories were based on real events from long before our time, and that the authors had somehow glimpsed those ancient dimensions. I used to think that if modern humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years, and civilizations for just a few thousand, but the Earth is billions of years old, then there’s been more than enough time for countless civilizations to rise, fall, and disappear without a trace-maybe even some that used magic, perhaps even before the dinosaurs. Honestly, I still kind of believe that. At the very least, it’s fun to think about, and my kids enjoy it too :)
I was just thinking about the movie Conan the Barbarian. I grew up watching it as a child and wanted to see it again. Here you are today posting this video! 😍🤌🏽
A few years ago, I decided to check out some 80's Canadian music here on TH-cam, (I live in the States). I found a playlist of music videos from that area and decade and was pretty blown away: some of those songs had such unique, heavenly melodies the likes of which I hadn't ever heard before. I found myself asking 2 questions: why hadn't I ever seen these vids on MTV, and from where are these Canadians divining this esoteric, wild, sophisticated and largely unheard of music. Well, maybe they are simply closer to the source of something long forgotten and have secured some remnants of that lost musical vernacular in their songs today.
Definitely an entertaining video, but i thought i was clicking on a deep dive into Conan lore, not an unhinged attempt to convince me that this shit actually happened lol
It’s been my opinion for a while now that none of these supposed authors created these narratives. Tolkein didn’t write the Lord of the Rings, Huxley didn’t write Brave New World, Orwell didn’t write 1984 etc. It’s beyond credibility that these authors predicted what the controllers wanted for us, and it’s far more credible to assume that the general narrative, characters and certain scenes were given to them, where they’d ‘screen write’ the stories given to them and they’d receive the kudos and royalties associated with them. There’s a story that someone noticed JK Rowling meeting someone clandestinely on a train journey just before the first Harry Potter book was released.
Part imagination. I've read every Conan and Kull story. I've read most of his horror works. Robert E. Howard was clearly facinated by and studied history and anthropology. He gave exact locations of the nations in the Hyborean Age in relation to each other. In his stories he gave descriptions of each of the nations peoples; hair color, eye color, accents, stature, skin color. He gave descriptions of their customs and architecture. He compared them to each other in how they are like other nations and unlike others. He also doesnt seem to "base" the Hyborean Age people on different nations. He implies through all of the se details and where the countries are in relation to each other that they were the proto tribes and nations that grew to become the ancient real world nations. He also includes plenty of mythological and "pseudo-historical" places and nations of all sorts across the world. He talks of ancient magik and ancient Gods. He talks about Hollow Earth and the dimensions of Gods and Demons. Robert E Howard is an incredibly underwrited writer and historical figure. He was also a total badass.
Robert at his 27 years gathered more knowledge of the ancient world than me at my 45 years old, I must recognize that man was a prodigy to say the least.
If you read enough REH. He almost forshadows his own suicide with his melancholy pros and introspection of the characters and there own humanity. He was one ofvthe greatest writers ever. A historian, linguist and dare i also say ocultist? His occasional refrences to alterd states makes me wonder if he talked to the natives about shamanism. Rest in power REH❤
The Picts where a confederation of people's in what is now Scotland. There are "Pictish stones" found mainly in the north-east of Scotland, they where highly skilled in metallurgy, especially gold and silver, many gold torques have been found of outstanding quality. The Picts eventually became The Scots. They where skilled horsemen and fierce warriors. They undoubtedly existed so I'm confused by your statement about their existence being ambiguous?.
Maybe I'm mistaken but wasn't Conan's time called the _Hyborian_ Age? Hyperborea was a country to the north in that period. The _Hyperborean_ Age was derived from Greek mythology and used in Clark Ashton Smith's stories like _The Tale of Satampra Zeiros_ .
If anyone is interested in other works that also take place in the same kinda connected universe of Robert e Howard and lovecraft. Id recommend the Hyperborean cycle by Clark Ashton smith. It takes place around 2 million years ago. Ancient humanity also having Iron Age level tech and lots of magic. Before the ice age freezes over everything causing humanity to regress as they would after Conan’s time at the end of the ice age. His works are very interesting. And meld things from both Robert e Howard and lovecrafts works. It gives a feeling of a time even way way before Conan. That’s extremely lost to us.
A million thanks for this fantastic video!!! Really appreciate your theories and detailed analysis of that map... This is one of my favorite authors... I'm a high fantasy enthusiast and D&D aficionado... I have my theories about Robert E. Howard seemed as though someone else penned those tales. I always thought Jeffrey of Monmouth was the grandfather of fantasy tales IMO. I get a Chinese dynasty vibe along with Tuatha De Danann mix... Great stuff anyway, who doesn't love Conan... I highly recommend watching that movie Solomon Kane... That movie nails the landscape and intensity of Roberts (whomever he was) writings. ❤
Now I want to watch Conan the barbarian again heck I'm going to watch it tonight on the old VHS. One of my childhood favorites movie memories. For me it was a glimpse into the past of a old world we no longer have.
I think that the distant past is shrouded in the fog of confusion. The further you travel back, the thicker said fog becomes. Evidence from fragmentary archaeological particulars is often taken as indicative and representative of universal realities. For example, when fossil remains were found of human beings living in the Horn of Africa, the hypothesis quickly became that man originated from that general area. The assumption there was that the oldest known fossils imply the emergence of the human being, while in reality, emergence could've preceded the lives and times of those fossilized individuals by tens of thousands of years. Then you have other prehistoric fossils showing up in southern Africa and Morocco, for example, and you have to interpret these findings for what they are, without adding unnecessary claims. The oldest known fossils do not, in fact, imply original emergence. They're just the oldest known extant remnants, while older ones might be waiting to be discovered. You can't keep assigning a new place of origin depending on the location of such findings, every time new fossils come to light. Another example is the archaeological evidence for the belief in multiple deities. It seems as if forms of polytheism are older than monotheistic beliefs. This is because of the physical remnants that record such beliefs reaching us now. If the oldest known archaeological evidences of theology show polytheism, the conclusion that polytheism predated monotheism is easily drawn. And so we craft a narrative around it, even though, when you think about it, this doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. After all, the concept of the one, by definition, but also in very practical terms, must precede the concept of the many. In other words; you wouldn't wake up one day, believing in the existence of a thousand different deities. You'd start with the idea of the one, instead. And then this evolves into multiplicity. Moreover, you can't actually know what countless, nameless, faceless individuals believed in the distant past. Just because you find evidence that gives you some insights into the beliefs of one or some, doesn't mean that these beliefs can now be assigned to all. The vast majority of the innumerable souls that preceded us remain silent in terms of what they believed, how they experienced life, what mattered to them, what they saw and what they did. They're gone. Absorbed by the fog, and we can't shed our lights on the individuals. In fact, it's not until larger communities start forming cities that archaeological evidences bring their realities to light. So when evidence of polytheism emerges, there's already civilization, which must've been preceded by long spans of times of either the lack of civilization, or its loss. In that, it makes sense to find polytheistic beliefs among the oldest known civilizations, even though one could argue that monotheism ought to have, logically, preceded it. And that's just to illustrate a point. Not to argue about religious beliefs. The point being that we're just trying to puzzle together a cohesive, coherent picture, based on isolated windows into the past, while the majority of links in the chain of events are forever lost and gone. I think that some of us feel the need to demystify what's inherently mysterious; filling in the blanks according to personal preferences. The idea of lost civilizations having existed in prehistoric times is romantic and appeals to our sense of wonder. The Antediluvian, Atlantis, Doggerland, Chatalhoyuk, etc., such terms inspire the imagination. Hyboria: did it exist? Extremely unlikely. Did something like it exist? Perhaps, because the human experience didn't start with whatever fossil bone, ancient burial site, or clay tablet just so happens to reach us. The Hyborian realm, in my mind, always occupied a place in ancient human history that's veiled from us: a potential history before recorded history. It fascinates because, potentially, and perhaps plausibly, such a world might have existed. How much esoteric mystery and grandiose fantasy we then add or omit is up to us; the playing field of the creative mind, rooted in some type of likelihoods evidenced by remnant empirical facts or anecdotal proofs, but ultimately engulfed by the thick fog of our own ignorance.
You know the Stayia in Howard's work were heavily inspired by Ancient Egypt but there's some influence from our civilization as well but just mentioning.
@LA... REH definitely knew things! The snake god reference/its symbol is eerily similar to some of the symbolism in Freemason lodges, too. Watched a fascinating video on Hitler's attacks on Freemasons, recently and saw the overlays.
This gave me a bit of inspiration..thinking about Camelot..just the kinda .fables that attract things..like a magnet... Arthur and Bear constellation..these Ancient matters ..just the hook..catches our attention... Tartar maze..
It meant he was versed in the history of the past reset. Some individuals get to hold the key. 🔑 While the low ranking members are just given on the surface knowledge.
Salutations Gentle Reader , Very Nice Offering! Howard truly was a good one, one of the "Big Three", along with H.P.Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith. I sense he was of that certain ilk which won't begin their true life's work without doing it well, come crashing loudly through the thickets headlong to find his destined place, then sadly, and because his special circumstance, rarely ever have the occasion to go away gently into the proverbial night, fade peacefully into blissful obscurity. Although Howard was well liked in literary circles and duly appreciated for his contributions to dark fantasy and weird fiction, and even though he created a niche that was his alone, such men as he apparently weren't meant to mellow as a bottle of wine might, happy to remain restive, sleepily calm, nested upon a darkened cellar shelf until transformed into a rare vintage, neither must he be assumed to go the usual way given us commoners, but rather, he was equipped to explode onto the literary scene much like a thunderbolt and stake his claim, then, nearly as quickly as he was thrust up, his entrance from utter obscurity, Howard would ran his chosen and prescribed course, the length of stay and mode of transport, and perhaps for having seen too much this mundane existence, decided to be curt and to free himself any more undue burden and disappear himself from this physicality, doing so somewhat mysteriously like balled lightning, leaving most his acquaintances, critics and admirers alike, scratching their heads, puzzling over the strangeness of Howard's Creature, that which had only so briefly breached the combined reality shared of them whom knew his name, before lifting off again and bursting, leaving behind not much more than a few memories of his shortened tenure, his particular brand of brilliant stories, small professions of ideas concerning his life views, those expressed in prose, poignant details tucked away between the lines that were collections of his combined words, those Howard thankfully unburdened from his person prior to permanently checking out, and making an untimely, if early, departure to escape the bounds this mortal coil, leaving just a few wispy tendrils of acrid smoke, perhaps designed to burn any weepy eye that would dare stare too long and question his reasoning, or their own profound sorrow, shedding tears on his behalf, though that remnant must have summarily been dispersed, diluted amongst the breezes. On a less somber note; I think his pal Clark Ashton Smith deserves a closer look, while his great bulk of poetry is enjoyable and worthy of exploring, I wish to focus on one his definitive short story collections compiled in 1988, released on the Arkham House label, titled after one his short stories, "A Rendezvous in Averoigne", and here I will insert a short statement from Wikipedia concerning that collection; A Rendezvous in Averoigne is a collection of science fiction, fantasy and horror stories by American writer Clark Ashton Smith. It was released in 1988 by Arkham House in an edition of 5,025 copies. The collection contains stories from Smith's major story cycles of Averoigne, Hyperborea, Poseidonis, Xiccarph, and Zothique. Its title story is a relatively conventional vampire story. Most of Smith's weird fiction falls into four series set variously in Hyperborea, Poseidonis, Averoigne and Zothique. Hyperborea, which is a lost continent of the Miocene period, and Poseidonis, which is a remnant of Atlantis, are much the same, with a magical culture characterized by bizarreness, cruelty, death and postmortem horrors. Averoigne is Smith's version of pre-modern France, comparable to James Branch Cabell's Poictesme. Zothique exists millions of years in the future. It is "the last continent of earth, when the sun is dim and tarnished". These tales have been compared to the Dying Earth sequence of Jack Vance. A Rendezvous in Averoigne contains the following: "Introduction", by Ray Bradbury Averoigne "The Holiness of Azédarac" "The Colossus of Ylourgne" "The End of the Story" "A Rendezvous in Averoigne" Atlantis "The Last Incantation" "The Death of Malygris" "A Voyage to Sfanomoë" Hyperborea "The Weird of Avoosl Wuthoqquan" "The Seven Geases" "The Tale of Satampra Zeiros" "The Coming of the White Worm" Lost Worlds "The City of the Singing Flame" "The Dweller in the Gulf" "The Chain of Aforgomon" "Genius Loci" "The Maze of Maal Dweb" "The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis" "The Uncharted Isle" "The Planet of the Dead" "Master of the Asteroid" Zothique "The Empire of the Necromancers" "The Charnel God" "Xeethra" "The Dark Eidolon" "The Death of Ilalotha" "The Last Hieroglyph" "Necromancy in Naat" "The Garden of Adompha" "The Isle of the Torturers" "Morthylla" www.eldritchdark.com is a fine site for everything C.A.Smith....Cheers!
Howard like many great thinkers seem to draw from a source; I believe it divine. And I dont remember where but I heard, on notes from his childhood, and from his correspondence with Lovecraft, that he might have been similarly afflicted by restlessness and visions, like in dreams. The Valley of of the Worm evokes just that. He was gifted by his dreams and real or fantastic memories which he used to create amazing characters like Kull and Conan.
Regardless of the precise timeline my only problem with Howard was that he didn't make the weapons bronze. It would have better conveyed the idea of a lost prehistoric time in my opinion. Steel is very recent. But to be fair I think the same applies to Tolkien as well so he's in good company.
Thulsa and Thurian are nods to the pole star of the time which is Thuban. Also Thule Greenland Which very near by they have the North Star inn hotel. The creature cathulu has this same thu Also the day Thursday has this same thu. Thursday was named after Thor supposedly 🤷🏻♂️
I firmly believe that our Creativity has access to what many call The Akashic Record … a history of everything, that we feel, or channel. Now, about Sacrifice: This notion may stem from a truth, that LOSS is felt, that a Nation mourns its dead, and through this, they unite. This may be why it was an honor, to have a child become the Alter to which a people find an identity- in The Sacrifices Name. Immortalizing them. The ultimate origin of, “Was our Sacrifice in vain?” Finally, The Riddle of Steel: May I introduce you to The Double Headed Eagle - This Symbol represents THE BINARY. Two Heads connected through a center, to Wings, a Pair of Talons and a flowing Bilateral Tail. Is this Creature a Symbol of the Mind/ Brain? The Modern version holds The Sword & Scepter in one Claw & an Orrery in the other. The Symbol holds the entire Kingdom of the world. It sees both The East & West. The Tail is Rooted in space. It’s Wings, Suspended it in Position. And from its mouth A Banner Connects to The Crown of Heaven. Fiction ( a collection of symbols) gains truth in our hearts, and inspires Real Action in the World.
Director John Mileus added the depth and authenticity to the original Conan movie. His absence from the sequel is why the movie is sub-par. Mileus' series Rome was also good.
This video just came up for me and It was really well presented. Until recently, my only experience with the Hyborian age was with the '82 movie. I really like the movie and the world-building, but Sci-fi is more appealing to me than fantasy. I love videos that explore lore and I'm surprised how few times Rebert E. Howard and George R.R, Martin work have been compared when it comes to their world-building. They weave mythology with just enough truth as to make it believable. When it comes to a real-world allegory of the Hyborian age. I believe that as far as civilisation is concerned there have been waxes and wanes rather than constant advancement. But those waxes and wanes are relatively gentle in comparison to the collapses that pseudo archaeologists would claim.
@@Restitutor_Orbis_214 There are gaps in my knowledge and there would have been events more significant than others. Some knowledge lost or cultural stagnation. But I can't think of anything that set humanity back hundreds of year.
Howard invented the age in an effort to hit a sweet spot that his readers would like. His first story’s were the Solomon Kane stories set in the 1600s but this proved too restrictive since the event of that time were well documented. Next he wrote the Kull stories but they didn’t sell as well as he wanted either. He concluded they were too divorced from the modern world for his audience. So he made up the world of Conan with enough references to things and places that would be recognized by his audience but were set long enough ago that there was room for the mythical stories he wanted to tell. This last one seemed to hit what he was going for in terms of capturing the imagination of the audience.
Mind blowing info about this author. H.G. wells was another one that I find very strange. The fact that war of the worls was written in horse and buggy days. Was it written to explain the great fires of the late 1800s? Or was it written to distract from what really happened? Was that why people got so freaked out when they heard the 1930s radio broadcast? Maybe they remembered what happened. ?
arnold starred in his first movie in 1970! the title is "Hercules in new york". if you haven't seen it, you are missed a classic! also, watch if you're having trouble falling asleep.
It seems that there is a shared subconscious theme in humanity of these lost cultures that seem to manifest themselves creatively through certain people. As science is catching up with history and fiction, we are seeing that more and more of this lost history is both possible and practical. We just have to wait and see if the truth is stranger than the fiction.
It is very similar especially with the understanding of internal strength and persistence. Percival represented the side of Arthur that could not be corrupted. Conan solved the Riddle of Steel in action not allowing himself to be corrupted by Thulsa Doom.
"Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. This was a time of vast kingdoms and forgotten realms, where ancient secrets and powerful magics lay hidden beneath the sands and seas."
Great episode LA❤
Snake people villains. Quite realistic.
Drunk on their own power and ego. Yup.
If you don't understand that reptilian/nephilim have been with us since the beginning and are the ruling elite now then none of this makes sense
They live. The shadow Kingdom.
It's all part of our myths. Realer than truth
I've always felt old fantasy stories were more historical than anything i was tought about history.
Maybe but how much and is some for detours or 🐚 game to play out a big chess game?
I think Lucian has a Lord of the Rings vid about that exact subject. Or maybe it was just a comment I read in one of his vids. I agree, these stories really illustrate the power of sheer will & ambition/dreams. Conan became King through his own merit. Deeds earned through merit is extremely frowned upon in modern day soyciety.
@@jmc8076 The veil of history is as thick as the veil to the afterlife.
You don't know how right you are.
@@HereticHydrasoyciety… bravo sir
It's a tragic shame Robert E. Howard didn't win his battle. His stories are interesting, terrific fun. Had he been able to do more, his craft would have only gotten better. Eventually publishing and rights deals would have probably afforded him a better cut. He needed an attorney as go between.
His stories are THE litmus for Pulp.
It’s crossed my mind that perhaps he lost a battle with an assassin instead of one with suicide, but I confess it feels dirty to speculate.
@KonnorKreyest-tn4pw Look, if you can build a strong enough case you feel confident enough to share...
@@KonnorKreyest-tn4pw what the hell are you smoking
Great episode! I would like to point out that Frank Frazetta iconic artwork on Conan's Paperback covers was key in the revival of the Conan franchise leading up to the 1982 movie visual style. Besides his artwork on the movie poster, there was a nod to his Egyptian queen artwork in one the palace sequence. Frazetta is arguably the greatest high fantasy artist of all time. Very primal and sexual. So electrifying. A real master of the moment. of light and shadow. influenced so many other artist. Dino the producer wanted to buy his famous cat girl artwork but he refused! lol. If you are interested, there is a documentary about him called Painting with Fire.
Yeah I loved Franzetta's works
Yes! No one could make cheeks look good in chain bikinis like Frank!
You took the words out of my mouth! I have his posters hanging all over my house. Egyptian Queen. Snow Giants. Atlantis. Silver Warrior. Seven Romans. Great artist.
Frank is 👑 !!!
I walk around with my conan, death dealer, and fire and ice t-shirts like a boss in town.
I have been an avid Conan fan ever since I was a child. My all time hero. I collect all his stories. And it was because of those stories that I knew there had been very advanced ancient civilizations in our past. The names in the Conan stories are all linked. Everything is linked. I think Robert E. Howard was onto something much bigger and shared it as stories starring Conan. I am quite surprised that someone (you) mentioned Conan in your videos. Very cool! Glad to see the world is awakening. Thank you for your videos. I love them, by the way!
i didnt learn to appreciate conan until after i learend about all the esoteric things hidden online. now it really resonates with me.
we were once so much more and now evil rules and the world is fed their lies.
Cimmerian..... Sumerian
Just these two words opened my eyes to our past :)
Cimmerians where eastern Scythians and not Sumerians. They where a real nomadic horseback people of the steppe btw.
Yes. Authors like him and especially Edgar Rice Boroughs John Carter series have always made me wonder about certain members being privy to hidden knowledge.
It really explains how that film was hung out to dry by a certain company.
There was a lot of mystery school activity in those days, Blavatsky, Steiner, Crowley, Edgar Casey ect. Pretty much anyone of note including US presidents and their wives to authors and scientist had connections to one or more people or groups like this, its pretty crazy. the channel Dark Journalist has done tons of research into that kind of stuff and has quite a few good videos and podcast on the mystery schools and their odd connections to all these people and subjects.
@@tomtom7955 thank you for the tidbit
@@tomtom7955Yes, DJ does some good work. For those that don't know, check out his documentary style video from a couple weeks ago. I'm sure you'll find it interesting and also explains why certain elite types are doing what they are, preparing for great Earth Changes of land masses. 😊
@@vivianwordenworth checking out ! 😊
Thulsa Doom calling to his followers on the cliff top,
deeply disturbed me as a child.
The "thud" when they hit the deck gets me! Makes me sick 🤮
I LOVE this film and this story. So much symbology in the film, so GLAD you covered this, what a day!!!!
Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe!
I collected all the paperback collections of Conan stories from the 60's lancet publishing as a child.
The original antagonist of his age was Thoth Amon. Thulsa Doom must be from the later comics or something because I was first introduced to the character in the 82' film.
I read somewhere long ago that Howard told a close companion that he didn't invent the character of Conan. He said he channeled his spirit, or the spirit of Conan revealed itself to him and shared the history/details of the hyborean age along with his life story.
I was much younger when I read that, and it sounded kinda crazy. But I've learned much since then, and being reminded by your vid of his relationship with HP Lovecraft this idea no longer sounds beyond the realm of possibility.
I read each book numerous times in my youth, and even though I've moved many times around the US they are still in my collection.
I hope this comment reaches you, for this Idea that he claimed to be channeling the spirit of Conan adds a very compelling wrinkle to the questions you are posing about the true nature of our history, and reality itself.
Cheers
Obviously Hyperborea is current Finland while Nordheim is Sweden and Norway. In short story "Legions of the Dead" by L. Sprague de Camp and Lin Carter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legions_of_the_Dead the leader of Hyperboreans is "Witch Queen Louhi" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louhi the main antagonist from Finnish national epic Kalevala. Conan's home Cimmeria could be located in sunken Doggerland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland although Doggerland could be also Atlantis as well.
Fun fact: The sons of Aryas are the Indo Europeans.
more like irano siberians quit with that we wuz aryan shiet amerimutt
They are the proto Indo European
Also I believe they are the Aesir and the Vanir gods of Nordic myth
Fun fact: Hyperboria and Atlantis didnt exist
@@ssach7 NOOOO THEY WERE NORDIC ARYANS BECAUSE JULIUS EVOLA SAID SO
Nice video. Great stuff right up my alley. Huge REH fan. Some of the speculation in this video can be cleared up with his other short stories. Some of his influences are with semi famous books available to him in Texas. Ignatius Donnelly’s work being a big one. Howard was trying to make sense of ancient history through his own lens, and he meshes together a number of theories. One interesting aspect of Howard’s perspective is the “de-evolution” of various races of humans or proto-humans. This is sometimes used to a reason why a great empire would fall. Another interesting thing to consider is the speed at which he would write these stories. He said that the stories would just come to him in his head, and he was compelled to write them in order to achieve a form of relief.
Love this film, especially the production design. John Millius suggested that Thulsa Doom was the remnant of an older race which had faded out. The “Atlantean sword” is a powerful scene. Love it man great work as always.
Right on par. I was rewatching the classic Conan movies like 3 days ago. Trying to catch new things I might of missed. As it pertains to Tartaria. Can’t wait to check this out in a bit. Appreciate what you do champ. 🔥
Pre-flood civilizations, the Genesis 6 account.
Love Connan when it was released along with the other fantasy so-called stories. I believe these are basted on mythology, which was based on real events.so many reset movies were produced when I was younger in the 1970s and 1980s. Even Star Wars tells a reset story, "A long time ago....". The past civilization fantasy and sword stories always seemed more real than not. We have built our civilizations on top of all of these foundation era hiding the proof hundreds feet below ground. If any archeological items around found which do not match current narrative it is just ignored like it does not exist. Totally hilarious, ignored like a child going la la la and plugin their ears.
I do not let that bother me anymore. It does not matter if others believe. Thank you LA. Happy Memorial day and thank you for your service.
Thank you much my friend!
“Whenever people need a hero we shall supply him.”
I knew virtually nothing of Howard before this video and now I am more interested in him than Conan..
Genetic memory is powerful in creative minds.
During the ice age ocean levels were 500 feet lower and humanity lived in that biome as it was the warmest area to live.
During the bronze age the ocean was over 200 feet lower, During the bronze age collapse something happened to raise sea levels drastically by over 100 feet essentially drowning civilization at the time.
Most of human civilization is over 200 feet below the waters of the world.
Conans world is early to mid bronze age were iron was hard to find, steel was a metal of the gods and yellow bronze was worth more than gold.
Who knows what creatures and conditions humanity had to put up with During such times. It truly was a time of adventure and "magic".
Have you come across the vapour canopy theory?
@krs4976 I have not but I'll give it a look.
@@joshuayow4653 Archaix is the best source of info for that and many many other things
@krs4976 after a very brief look up I had come across a similar theory that there was a heavy ice layer over the atmosphere at one time, which makes sense because even today there's smaller lighter ice layers that form from time to time, which is why perfect weather is required for rocket launches do to ice Crystal's.
The theory goes a very large asteroid ( dinosaur killer) broke the ice layer and created a global flood from the impact, also off gassing the 48 times thicker atmosphere that could support large plants and animals, creating a mass extinction event.
Makes sense to me and is a better explanation than anything else floating around in the mainstream community.
Idt the sea levels rose 100 feet during the bronze age collapse...
It looks like the only rose 3-4ft during that period, and over the course of decades.
I took up metallurgy and welding after seeing Conan, “All these things will fail, but this, Steele, this you can trust. “
😂😂😂 Well, that's kind of true
@@albebelt3013 It was a paraphrase, I used to know it.
@@richspillman4191 You took my father's sword!
@@albebelt3013 “Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die”
But the main message of the movie was that flesh is stronger than steel. Conan's sword broke, but his friends who truly loved him from their hearts did stick with him to the end and even beyond. What is steel in comparsion to the hand that wields it?
probably also a member of the club 😉🤫👌🏻
If humans have been here for 100,000- 200,000 years like we're taught then yes, Hyperborea could very well be real. I guess after the sun melts the ice cap up north we'll find out for sure.
Never going to happen . You’ve drunk the koolaid. I bet your vaxed and boosted. Well won’t be here for long
Or if land rises in various parts of the world. Japanese media talked about certain few islands that rose up out of the ocean, I cant remember how long ago, maybe the early 90s. But I think the Govt suppressed it.
Flat earth awakens
Ah no. If the ice caps melt, and the water rises, then land mass decreases, as it gets flooded by water. Its not so much a shifting of the waters but the shifting of the poles and perhaps the axis of the Earth - that changes where the equator is and which lands are covered by snow & ice and which are not. This is likely what happened during one of the cataclysms of our past.
@@RaikenXion have you ever seen the japanese under water structures, that nobody can explain? Quite intriguing.
The OG Conan movie has less to do with a lot of the actual source material of the Conan stories, with the 2011 being more true to the source material but not being as good of a movie in comparison to the original. It's always good to see more people talk about the Conan series on TH-cam though since it is one of my favorite series, and I do plan on making some of my own lore content on here eventually discussing a lot of it, as well as bringing to light some of the mysteries or obscure things in the lore that Howard provided us even in his short run.
I had forgotten the riddle of steel. It's been 42 years. I have to watch it again Great presentation. To create an entire world just blows me away
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I've often wondered if pulp writers like Robert E Howard and HP Lovecraft were channeling esoteric knowledge in their work. Howard particularly had knowledge of Lemuria and Mu.
What about Jules Verne? His moon capsule was almost exactly the same dimensions as the actual Apollo capsule was decades later.
He almost perfectly described nuclear/steam powered subs almost a century before they happened with the nautilus&nemo.
He also predicted massive buildings with central cooling etc.
We will be getting to him, he is even more enigmatic.
Heck yeah!!! Always a fan of Conan and also Tolkien material.
What an awesome video, appreciate the great work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've read all the Conan books and have always thought they held some truths.Very interesting video!!
Thank you!
Maybe Robert E.Howard have been to these places and witnessed everything ,the said thing thing can be said about JR Tolkien too,it never ceases to amazed me how creative they are or as if they were there during those events occurred
Since science fiction authors tend to be pretty accurate in describing future civilizations and technologies in their books thus turning their stories into self fulfilling prophecies, authors of historical fantasy works may be also very accurately be describing past civilizations and events too.
Conan the Tartarian. Barbarians=Tartarians. Bar Bar = Tar Tar.
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Nah, the focus on "Tartarians" is wrong anyway. The main takeaway from that part of history is knowing that history was altered and watered down to downplay the significance of that region, it wasn't the magical group that built all the old-buildings around the world. Barbars were always North African's in history, which is actually another interesting region that the history has been wiped (Mauritania, etc.). My thoughts on Conan and Robert E. Howard is that he was well read on these aspects of history that are considered "occult" these days and created his own version of what it could have been. If he wasn't well read, than he is simply a proxy like Nik Tesla.
@@williambelmont9601 I'm on the same line about this. It's simple really. We all can read about the past and, if creatively inclined, our fertile minds, spurred on by a divine spark of inspiration, can churn out many interesting wondrous worlds. Not like R.E. Howard is any exception. However, it carries a problem - over the course of time actual historic origins of things become increasingly blurred.
Barbarians = Berbers. Alot of them live in Spain and North Africa.
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Strange that this story is in the bible, since sorcery and witches were so taboo. Priests these days don't do magic, or do they? "Aaron threw his staff in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a serpent. 11 Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and sorcerers, and they-along with the Egyptian magicians-did the same thing with their secret arts. 12 So each one threw down his staff and it became a serpent, but Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh’s heart was stubborn[a] and he did not listen to them, just as the Lord had said would happen.
You realize Conan the barbarian is only a comic book character? Nothing of that was from the Bible.
@@viciousyeen6644 You mean your bible doesn't have a Conan book? That's weird!
@@paul1887 absolutely! To be honest I don’t own any bibles xD
Always leave them wanting more. Very fun and interesting to think that Conan was in some way influenced by true history.
"Hook me up a new revolution
'Cause this one is a Lie
We sat around laughing and watched the last one die
...
Make my way back home when I learn to fly high
Make my way back home when I learn to fly"
- Foo Fighters (Learn to Fly)
Conan is Cimmerian, is Hyperborea the age he is in. That conan movie is one of my all time favorites. I also have like 300 conan comics that are some of my favorite. Red Sonya, Valeria, Belit', awesome female characters.
Edit: ok, i just needed to watch for 5 mins, lol, i got Kull the conquerer too
27:16. This is my own personal opinion but i think Robert E. Howard was either part of some Mystery School and had learned some level of Esoteric Knowledge, or Theosophy and chose to release certain knowledge he had learned through his Fantasy story.
Or it may be an erased memory of a past life he may have lived in that particular time; ofwhich he was subconsciously tapping into either through his dreams, or if he had ever given any readings.
This has happened with various individuals throughout history. I believe all these places were real, Hyborea, Atlantis. The King in the Conan story and how tall he was, Independant Archeologists have discovered giant skeletons in parts of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and many other parts of the middle-east. But authorities and Govts have always taken them away where they've ended up locked in vaults or kept in places like the Smithsonian. Even giant Iron Axes and Swords have been discovered. One massive Samurai sword found in Japan is kept on display in one of their Museums. I believe Giants were definitely Real thousands of years ago, and Gigantism is carried on through genetics to this day in some people.
In Academic Education we are never taught about civilizations past the ancient Egyptians, or Incas and Aztecs. They never teach about the Sunerians and Babylonians.
Such ideas and indepth descriptions do not come into the mind from nothing. Our subconscious is very powerful. It can drive the Individuals imagination.
100% with you
I think theres a collection of swards!
We learned about the Sumerians and civilizations of the near east multiple times throughout my high school and elementary education, you guys need to stop allowing your presumptions to run wild. Doing so while criticizing another individual’s ability to design a fictional world is deeply ironic… if you step back, you’ll see that these presumptions have led you to create a personal mythology and history of your own.
Use that energy for creativity and other pursuits that don’t fall under the guise of a search for the “truth” which in reality is based entirely on titanic-scaled presumptions. Such presumptions coalesce into a view of reality that is infinitely less-likely than that proposed by main stream historians.
@@Journeyman107 you missed the point and speak with arrogance brother, you are incredibly naïve if you think the little knowledge you were taught in highschool is suffisable to understand our human past, which has proved to be numerous times more complicated than just sumerians appearing out of nowhere and starting civilization.
You aren't ready for any type of truth yet, and the walls you have created outside of your mind keeps it from expanding further and reaching new conclusions.
You never evolved past the comprehension of human history that you had when you where 8 years old and you think you got it all figured out ?
@@mad.attila6488 you wouldn’t consider vehemently denying scholarly consensus arrogance? you think you have special access to or a connection to secret knowledge? That you are special because you examined the mountains of proposed evidence for alternate history theories, some of which is even featured prominently on mainstream television nowadays? you are an angry avatar of the ancient warrior Attila the Hun? You have broken some sort of mental siege and are especially enlightened because you are an armchair historian? That all seems extraordinarily arrogant and naive as well eh
The way I see Conan himself is fictional but the world he inhabits has historical elements thrown in you really get the sense that somebody like Conan really existed in the world that’s the beauty of it.
Thank you for covering this. This theory has been with me for many decades after 1st reading Tolkien, Lovecraft, and Howard when I was much younger. Whether it was imagination, channeled or remembered through DNA doesn’t take away from the knowing you get when reading or watching something your very essence knows is the truth.
REH wrote a story -- KINGS OF THE NIGHT -- in which Bran Mak Morn fought a battle against a Roman army by enlisting the aid of another barbarian army from the Brittanic isles . . . but they wouldn't fight under him, only under a King whom they could follow. So Bran Mak Morn managed to magically call forth the long-dead Atlantean barbarian Kull, who had been king of Valusia 100,000 years before.
The Bran Mak Morn stories take place when the Romans were still in Britain, a period of time which lasted from AD 43 to 410. The "100,000 years" figure seems like a round figure, but I think it's fair to say that Kull must have been Valusia's king roughly 99,600 BC at the latest. The map of the Thurian Continent has the date "18,000 BC" on it, but that cannot be right, given the evidence from REH's Bran Mak Morn/Kull crossover story.
As for when Conan's life was lived, REH never explicitly stated when, but I like to think it was sometime when the astrological Age of Leo last happened, from 10,900 to 8,740 BC, closer to the beginning of that Age, with Conan's life 'inaugurating' it.
Just for fun, I imagined that the "Sons of Aryas" whom REH mentions in his "Hyborean Age" essay were descendants of Conan -- perhaps survivors of the cataclysm that rocked the world after Conan's kingship over Aquilonia. Conan had been known as "Amra" during his pirate days with Belit ("Queen of the Black Coast"), she being a Shemitish princess/'goddess' worshiped by her crew of Black Corsairs. I like to imagine that through Reincarnation -- a trope REH used in numerous stories -- the Shemite language became 'remembered' in later times as Proto-Hebrew, with the name 'Amra' being related to the Hebrew word 'Ari', which also means 'Lion'. Thus, the 'M' in AMRA drops out -- the word originally having been a way of indicating a lion's roar (i.e. "amm-RRAAHHH" -- kinda like how "bow-wow" represents a dog's vocalisms) -- leaving 'A-RAH', then morphing its ending to 'A-REE', which became spelled 'aRiY [Aleph-Resh-Yod] "roarer"/"lion" -- from 'aRaH "to roar" etc.
So, I like to think that a man named Aryas lived and the calendar used by Jews actually dates back to his time, c. 3761 BC, he being a lineal descendant of the 'Amra'-the-Lion hero from millennia before. I like to imagine that from the time of Conan to that of this Aryas guy there were 360 cycles of 19 years, or 6,840 years, which would put Conan's time at 10,601 BC, about 300 years into the astrological Age of Leo.
The star Alpha Leonis -- a.k.a. Regulus -- is at 150 degrees along the Ecliptic, i.e. 150 degrees away from the 0 degrees position where the Zodiacal Ecliptic crosses the Celestial Equator. It takes about 72 years for the Earth's wobble to result in a precession of 1 degree, so multiplying 72 x 150 gives us 10,800 years since the time when Regulus was situated at the crossroads of the Ecliptic and the Celestial Equator, when Leo would be the constellation (i.e. zodiac 'Sign') associated with the Vernal Equinox. If THAT is when Conan lived, then we're talking about 10,800 years ago, or roughly 8,800 BC, towards the end of the astrological Age of Leo. Regulus means "Little King" -- with 'little' perhaps referring to a King on the Earth, as opposed to some demigod 'sky'-king. There are about 5,040 years between 8,800 BC and 3760 BC, or 70 x 72, i.e. 70 precessional degrees.
So, I'm kinda torn between Conan living c. 10,600 BC or c. 8,800 BC, a difference of 1,800 years or 25 precessional degrees. It's too bad that REH never pinpointed the exact years in the BC era when Conan was born and died; on the other hand, it gives guys like me some wiggle room to speculate wildly about it all!
Conan is a fantasy character from a fantasy version of earth...I just think you needed to be reminded of that simple fact. REH never claimed he was writing "history" he just thought it would be cool to set his story in a pseudo prehistoric setting of our earth.
@@Raussl You know, in re-reading my OP, wherein I state numerous times that "I like to imagine" and finally mention "guys like me . . . speculate wildly about it all" (etc.), I have to wonder why you felt the need to remind me that Conan is a fictional fantasy character. Of COURSE he's a fictional character! As are ALL his characters, including Bran Mak Morn and Kull.
I'm sure there are STAR WARS fans who wonder WHICH particular galaxy of the billions in existence is the "galaxy far far away" in which those sci-fi fantasy movies take place, and exactly how long ago "a long time ago" means -- i.e. thousands of years ago? . . . tens of thousands of years ago? . . . hundreds of thousands of years ago? . . . millions of years ago? . . . etc. Do THEY need some wiseass to "remind" them that it's all just fantasy fiction they're wondering about???
If being condescending towards fans of fantasy literature (etc.) is something you have a 'jones' for, then maybe attend the next San Diego Comic-Con and approach each and every cosplay artist who goes out of his/her way to dress up like one of the fictional characters they enjoy watching on TV or in movie theaters and remind THEM -- each and every one of them -- that you feel the need to remind them that they're dressing up like FICTIONAL fantasy characters. Go ahead, do it, c'mon! It's something you'd enjoy doing, I can tell. They're obviously a bunch of deranged fanboys & fangirls who can't tell fantasy from reality, who need YOU to remind them of that "simple fact." Or go to Times Square and get in the face of some guy dressed up like Spider-Man or Elmo and remind THEM that those characters don't exist in reality, etc. etc.
Get over yourself.
@@patricktilton5377 ahh, I see now, you definitely needed that reminder.
@@RausslPeople have things that they are passionate about,who are you to be condescending about it? Clearly they know it's fantasy. It's called having an imagination,at one point in time the ability to talk to people in multiple ways around the world on a device that fits in your pocket was fantasy.
@@c.antoniojohnson7114 "know it's fantasy"...key word is fantasy...some seem to view it as reality though.
There is always a grain of truth in all myths and historic stories. The trick is to Feel which grain is the truth.
The discipline of Krull or Cruel world.
Man became beasts after eating the flesh and blood of animals.
The
Carnal man loses his spirituality and becomes materialistic.
The dark ages...
Hopefully one day we can return to our original state. Love
Hopefully....
My fav Comic Book The Savage Sword Of Conan 💪🏽
"But you didn't have to cut me off..." 🎵🎶🎵🎶
Red Nails is my favorite Conan adventure.
I does not matter, if the Hyborian Age ever existed. REH left an important impression in our collective subconscious myth. His stories, among a plethora of folk tales and legends, will be present in our minds, and in the minds of many generations to come.
You'd be surprised how similar what REH wrote is to actual geology and anthropolgy, and there's definitely missing ages and civilizations. Civilizations for sure didn't start in Sumer.
I am guessing that Edger Rice Boroughs knew about the outer worlds considering his Barsoom series.
Explains why a pretty well put together film was eviscerated too.
Yeah, funny thing, but as author your created world is where you try to spend your time. You learn it, you grow and prune it, na mate, he straight up made that stuff up. Nothing more. But hella fun reading so I am glad he shared it.
Funny thing, but I haven’t read any CONAN since I was a kid and read my dad’s collection, yet I remembered Thulsa Doom as lich. That he is why Conan hates and destroys all magic (good or bad), dude is a hella Tier 1 sorcerer. And in 2nd Ed/AD&D Conan is why the Barbarian class got experience points for destroying magic items, like mad eeps. :)
If that is the case, I wish we could make more fresh creative ideas today.
You make the videos I would about the things I would . You are gaining on Levi as too notch content creator ; but he’s still the best .
Keep banging them out my friend
Such a great episode thanks !! Great watch
As a big fan of REH I love about his world building of the Hyborean age.
That creative spark is very much needed now.
When I was about 10 (I'm 38 now) and first got into fantasy like Conan and LOTR, I couldn’t shake the feeling that these stories were based on real events from long before our time, and that the authors had somehow glimpsed those ancient dimensions. I used to think that if modern humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years, and civilizations for just a few thousand, but the Earth is billions of years old, then there’s been more than enough time for countless civilizations to rise, fall, and disappear without a trace-maybe even some that used magic, perhaps even before the dinosaurs. Honestly, I still kind of believe that. At the very least, it’s fun to think about, and my kids enjoy it too :)
Hyperborea in Greek literally means Beyond or over(Hyper) the North (Borreas)
I was just thinking about the movie Conan the Barbarian. I grew up watching it as a child and wanted to see it again. Here you are today posting this video! 😍🤌🏽
A few years ago, I decided to check out some 80's Canadian music here on TH-cam, (I live in the States). I found a playlist of music videos from that area and decade and was pretty blown away: some of those songs had such unique, heavenly melodies the likes of which I hadn't ever heard before.
I found myself asking 2 questions: why hadn't I ever seen these vids on MTV, and from where are these Canadians divining this esoteric, wild, sophisticated and largely unheard of music. Well, maybe they are simply closer to the source of something long forgotten and have secured some remnants of that lost musical vernacular in their songs today.
Definitely an entertaining video, but i thought i was clicking on a deep dive into Conan lore, not an unhinged attempt to convince me that this shit actually happened lol
"Hyperborean" is a name in a simulated horse racing program in Oz called Trackside. Along with Great Flood, Tartantara, Akhenaton, etc,...
It’s been my opinion for a while now that none of these supposed authors created these narratives. Tolkein didn’t write the Lord of the Rings, Huxley didn’t write Brave New World, Orwell didn’t write 1984 etc. It’s beyond credibility that these authors predicted what the controllers wanted for us, and it’s far more credible to assume that the general narrative, characters and certain scenes were given to them, where they’d ‘screen write’ the stories given to them and they’d receive the kudos and royalties associated with them. There’s a story that someone noticed JK Rowling meeting someone clandestinely on a train journey just before the first Harry Potter book was released.
Probably all masons
Part imagination. I've read every Conan and Kull story. I've read most of his horror works. Robert E. Howard was clearly facinated by and studied history and anthropology. He gave exact locations of the nations in the Hyborean Age in relation to each other. In his stories he gave descriptions of each of the nations peoples; hair color, eye color, accents, stature, skin color. He gave descriptions of their customs and architecture. He compared them to each other in how they are like other nations and unlike others. He also doesnt seem to "base" the Hyborean Age people on different nations. He implies through all of the se details and where the countries are in relation to each other that they were the proto tribes and nations that grew to become the ancient real world nations. He also includes plenty of mythological and "pseudo-historical" places and nations of all sorts across the world. He talks of ancient magik and ancient Gods. He talks about Hollow Earth and the dimensions of Gods and Demons. Robert E Howard is an incredibly underwrited writer and historical figure. He was also a total badass.
Given that there is evidence that dinosaurs existed via bones, I'm more than convinced that there was a civilization where there were 80 foot snakes.
and thank you for the hard work. Video is amazing
Glad you enjoyed it!
Simply irresistible simply the best 🏆🥇🔟
Robert at his 27 years gathered more knowledge of the ancient world than me at my 45 years old, I must recognize that man was a prodigy to say the least.
If you read enough REH. He almost forshadows his own suicide with his melancholy pros and introspection of the characters and there own humanity. He was one ofvthe greatest writers ever. A historian, linguist and dare i also say ocultist? His occasional refrences to alterd states makes me wonder if he talked to the natives about shamanism. Rest in power REH❤
Excellent entertaining video ⚔️very informative and educational love it! 😉👍🗡️
Thanks 👍
Very welcome 😊
The Picts where a confederation of people's in what is now Scotland.
There are "Pictish stones" found mainly in the north-east of Scotland, they where highly skilled in metallurgy, especially gold and silver, many gold torques have been found of outstanding quality.
The Picts eventually became The Scots.
They where skilled horsemen and fierce warriors.
They undoubtedly existed so I'm confused by your statement about their existence being ambiguous?.
Watch the theory videos if you are interested.
Maybe I'm mistaken but wasn't Conan's time called the _Hyborian_ Age? Hyperborea was a country to the north in that period. The _Hyperborean_ Age was derived from Greek mythology and used in Clark Ashton Smith's stories like _The Tale of Satampra Zeiros_ .
Yes, it is play on how Hyperborian is a contraction of Hyperborea.
If anyone is interested in other works that also take place in the same kinda connected universe of Robert e Howard and lovecraft. Id recommend the Hyperborean cycle by Clark Ashton smith. It takes place around 2 million years ago. Ancient humanity also having Iron Age level tech and lots of magic. Before the ice age freezes over everything causing humanity to regress as they would after Conan’s time at the end of the ice age.
His works are very interesting. And meld things from both Robert e Howard and lovecrafts works.
It gives a feeling of a time even way way before Conan. That’s extremely lost to us.
A million thanks for this fantastic video!!!
Really appreciate your theories and detailed analysis of that map...
This is one of my favorite authors... I'm a high fantasy enthusiast and D&D aficionado...
I have my theories about Robert E. Howard seemed as though someone else penned those tales.
I always thought Jeffrey of Monmouth was the grandfather of fantasy tales IMO.
I get a Chinese dynasty vibe along with Tuatha De Danann mix...
Great stuff anyway, who doesn't love Conan...
I highly recommend watching that movie Solomon Kane...
That movie nails the landscape and intensity of Roberts (whomever he was) writings.
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I still recall being baffled by the efforts of the second film, but now it all adds up. Thank you very much!
@@Restitutor_Orbis_214 awesome looking forward to more of your great videos! ❤️
That was awesome!
Now I want to watch Conan the barbarian again heck I'm going to watch it tonight on the old VHS. One of my childhood favorites movie memories. For me it was a glimpse into the past of a old world we no longer have.
It's here on the tube...
I think that the distant past is shrouded in the fog of confusion. The further you travel back, the thicker said fog becomes. Evidence from fragmentary archaeological particulars is often taken as indicative and representative of universal realities. For example, when fossil remains were found of human beings living in the Horn of Africa, the hypothesis quickly became that man originated from that general area. The assumption there was that the oldest known fossils imply the emergence of the human being, while in reality, emergence could've preceded the lives and times of those fossilized individuals by tens of thousands of years. Then you have other prehistoric fossils showing up in southern Africa and Morocco, for example, and you have to interpret these findings for what they are, without adding unnecessary claims. The oldest known fossils do not, in fact, imply original emergence. They're just the oldest known extant remnants, while older ones might be waiting to be discovered. You can't keep assigning a new place of origin depending on the location of such findings, every time new fossils come to light.
Another example is the archaeological evidence for the belief in multiple deities. It seems as if forms of polytheism are older than monotheistic beliefs. This is because of the physical remnants that record such beliefs reaching us now. If the oldest known archaeological evidences of theology show polytheism, the conclusion that polytheism predated monotheism is easily drawn. And so we craft a narrative around it, even though, when you think about it, this doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. After all, the concept of the one, by definition, but also in very practical terms, must precede the concept of the many. In other words; you wouldn't wake up one day, believing in the existence of a thousand different deities. You'd start with the idea of the one, instead. And then this evolves into multiplicity. Moreover, you can't actually know what countless, nameless, faceless individuals believed in the distant past. Just because you find evidence that gives you some insights into the beliefs of one or some, doesn't mean that these beliefs can now be assigned to all. The vast majority of the innumerable souls that preceded us remain silent in terms of what they believed, how they experienced life, what mattered to them, what they saw and what they did. They're gone. Absorbed by the fog, and we can't shed our lights on the individuals. In fact, it's not until larger communities start forming cities that archaeological evidences bring their realities to light. So when evidence of polytheism emerges, there's already civilization, which must've been preceded by long spans of times of either the lack of civilization, or its loss. In that, it makes sense to find polytheistic beliefs among the oldest known civilizations, even though one could argue that monotheism ought to have, logically, preceded it. And that's just to illustrate a point. Not to argue about religious beliefs.
The point being that we're just trying to puzzle together a cohesive, coherent picture, based on isolated windows into the past, while the majority of links in the chain of events are forever lost and gone. I think that some of us feel the need to demystify what's inherently mysterious; filling in the blanks according to personal preferences. The idea of lost civilizations having existed in prehistoric times is romantic and appeals to our sense of wonder. The Antediluvian, Atlantis, Doggerland, Chatalhoyuk, etc., such terms inspire the imagination. Hyboria: did it exist? Extremely unlikely. Did something like it exist? Perhaps, because the human experience didn't start with whatever fossil bone, ancient burial site, or clay tablet just so happens to reach us. The Hyborian realm, in my mind, always occupied a place in ancient human history that's veiled from us: a potential history before recorded history. It fascinates because, potentially, and perhaps plausibly, such a world might have existed. How much esoteric mystery and grandiose fantasy we then add or omit is up to us; the playing field of the creative mind, rooted in some type of likelihoods evidenced by remnant empirical facts or anecdotal proofs, but ultimately engulfed by the thick fog of our own ignorance.
You know the Stayia in Howard's work were heavily inspired by Ancient Egypt but there's some influence from our civilization as well but just mentioning.
@LA... REH definitely knew things! The snake god reference/its symbol is eerily similar to some of the symbolism in Freemason lodges, too. Watched a fascinating video on Hitler's attacks on Freemasons, recently and saw the overlays.
This gave me a bit of inspiration..thinking about Camelot..just the kinda .fables that attract things..like a magnet... Arthur and Bear constellation..these Ancient matters ..just the hook..catches our attention... Tartar maze..
What is steel compared to the hand that weilds it?
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Nice dissertation!
Howard has a coded name. He was a freemason. Interesting.
knew it! lol what was the code? what did it mean?
It meant he was versed in the history of the past reset. Some individuals get to hold the key. 🔑 While the low ranking members are just given on the surface knowledge.
@@StArLioN_ Interesting. We are in agreement but that is not all. 🫵😇👍
@@fernandezaguilar3229 I tried to respond. They erased it. TH-cam is aweful.
Where do you get this from? It doesn't make any sense.
Conan The Barbarian ~ Khan the Tartarian
Micmac The Retardarian 😂
BS no way you wish
Just finished Carl Wagner's The Road of Kings. It was great... then I find this. Thx
Salutations Gentle Reader ,
Very Nice Offering! Howard truly was a good one, one of the "Big Three", along with H.P.Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith. I sense he was of that certain ilk which won't begin their true life's work without doing it well, come crashing loudly through the thickets headlong to find his destined place, then sadly, and because his special circumstance, rarely ever have the occasion to go away gently into the proverbial night, fade peacefully into blissful obscurity. Although Howard was well liked in literary circles and duly appreciated for his contributions to dark fantasy and weird fiction, and even though he created a niche that was his alone, such men as he apparently weren't meant to mellow as a bottle of wine might, happy to remain restive, sleepily calm, nested upon a darkened cellar shelf until transformed into a rare vintage, neither must he be assumed to go the usual way given us commoners, but rather, he was equipped to explode onto the literary scene much like a thunderbolt and stake his claim, then, nearly as quickly as he was thrust up, his entrance from utter obscurity, Howard would ran his chosen and prescribed course, the length of stay and mode of transport, and perhaps for having seen too much this mundane existence, decided to be curt and to free himself any more undue burden and disappear himself from this physicality, doing so somewhat mysteriously like balled lightning, leaving most his acquaintances, critics and admirers alike, scratching their heads, puzzling over the strangeness of Howard's Creature, that which had only so briefly breached the combined reality shared of them whom knew his name, before lifting off again and bursting, leaving behind not much more than a few memories of his shortened tenure, his particular brand of brilliant stories, small professions of ideas concerning his life views, those expressed in prose, poignant details tucked away between the lines that were collections of his combined words, those Howard thankfully unburdened from his person prior to permanently checking out, and making an untimely, if early, departure to escape the bounds this mortal coil, leaving just a few wispy tendrils of acrid smoke, perhaps designed to burn any weepy eye that would dare stare too long and question his reasoning, or their own profound sorrow, shedding tears on his behalf, though that remnant must have summarily been dispersed, diluted amongst the breezes.
On a less somber note; I think his pal Clark Ashton Smith deserves a closer look, while his great bulk of poetry is enjoyable and worthy of exploring, I wish to focus on one his definitive short story collections compiled in 1988, released on the Arkham House label, titled after one his short stories,
"A Rendezvous in Averoigne", and here I will insert a short statement from Wikipedia concerning that collection;
A Rendezvous in Averoigne is a collection of science fiction, fantasy and horror stories by American writer Clark Ashton Smith. It was released in 1988 by Arkham House in an edition of 5,025 copies. The collection contains stories from Smith's major story cycles of Averoigne, Hyperborea, Poseidonis, Xiccarph, and Zothique. Its title story is a relatively conventional vampire story. Most of Smith's weird fiction falls into four series set variously in Hyperborea, Poseidonis, Averoigne and Zothique. Hyperborea, which is a lost continent of the Miocene period, and Poseidonis, which is a remnant of Atlantis, are much the same, with a magical culture characterized by bizarreness, cruelty, death and postmortem horrors. Averoigne is Smith's version of pre-modern France, comparable to James Branch Cabell's Poictesme. Zothique exists millions of years in the future. It is "the last continent of earth, when the sun is dim and tarnished". These tales have been compared to the Dying Earth sequence of Jack Vance.
A Rendezvous in Averoigne contains the following:
"Introduction", by Ray Bradbury
Averoigne
"The Holiness of Azédarac"
"The Colossus of Ylourgne"
"The End of the Story"
"A Rendezvous in Averoigne"
Atlantis
"The Last Incantation"
"The Death of Malygris"
"A Voyage to Sfanomoë"
Hyperborea
"The Weird of Avoosl Wuthoqquan"
"The Seven Geases"
"The Tale of Satampra Zeiros"
"The Coming of the White Worm"
Lost Worlds
"The City of the Singing Flame"
"The Dweller in the Gulf"
"The Chain of Aforgomon"
"Genius Loci"
"The Maze of Maal Dweb"
"The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis"
"The Uncharted Isle"
"The Planet of the Dead"
"Master of the Asteroid"
Zothique
"The Empire of the Necromancers"
"The Charnel God"
"Xeethra"
"The Dark Eidolon"
"The Death of Ilalotha"
"The Last Hieroglyph"
"Necromancy in Naat"
"The Garden of Adompha"
"The Isle of the Torturers"
"Morthylla"
www.eldritchdark.com is a fine site for everything C.A.Smith....Cheers!
Howard like many great thinkers seem to draw from a source; I believe it divine. And I dont remember where but I heard, on notes from his childhood, and from his correspondence with Lovecraft, that he might have been similarly afflicted by restlessness and visions, like in dreams. The Valley of of the Worm evokes just that. He was gifted by his dreams and real or fantastic memories which he used to create amazing characters like Kull and Conan.
Regardless of the precise timeline my only problem with Howard was that he didn't make the weapons bronze. It would have better conveyed the idea of a lost prehistoric time in my opinion. Steel is very recent. But to be fair I think the same applies to Tolkien as well so he's in good company.
Thulsa and Thurian are nods to the pole star of the time which is Thuban. Also Thule Greenland Which very near by they have the North Star inn hotel. The creature cathulu has this same thu Also the day Thursday has this same thu. Thursday was named after Thor supposedly 🤷🏻♂️
I firmly believe that our Creativity has access to what many call The Akashic Record … a history of everything, that we feel, or channel.
Now, about Sacrifice: This notion may stem from a truth, that LOSS is felt, that a Nation mourns its dead, and through this, they unite.
This may be why it was an honor, to have a child become the Alter to which a people find an identity- in The Sacrifices Name. Immortalizing them. The ultimate origin of, “Was our Sacrifice in vain?”
Finally, The Riddle of Steel:
May I introduce you to The Double Headed Eagle - This Symbol represents THE BINARY. Two Heads connected through a center, to Wings, a Pair of Talons and a flowing Bilateral Tail.
Is this Creature a Symbol of the Mind/ Brain? The Modern version holds The Sword & Scepter in one Claw & an Orrery in the other.
The Symbol holds the entire Kingdom of the world. It sees both The East & West. The Tail is Rooted in space. It’s Wings, Suspended it in Position. And from its mouth A Banner Connects to The Crown of Heaven.
Fiction ( a collection of symbols) gains truth in our hearts, and inspires Real Action in the World.
Enjoyable content, thanks. 😊
Damn, that is a HARD 30 years.
"You killed my father!"
"I am your father."
paraphrasing, a bit.
Director John Mileus added the depth and authenticity to the original Conan movie. His absence from the sequel is why the movie is sub-par. Mileus' series Rome was also good.
True enough, even made the Cold War action flick "Red Dawn" enjoyable. No one gives a "Road to War" briefing like Powers Boothe.
This video just came up for me and It was really well presented. Until recently, my only experience with the Hyborian age was with the '82 movie. I really like the movie and the world-building, but Sci-fi is more appealing to me than fantasy. I love videos that explore lore and I'm surprised how few times Rebert E. Howard and George R.R, Martin work have been compared when it comes to their world-building. They weave mythology with just enough truth as to make it believable.
When it comes to a real-world allegory of the Hyborian age. I believe that as far as civilisation is concerned there have been waxes and wanes rather than constant advancement. But those waxes and wanes are relatively gentle in comparison to the collapses that pseudo archaeologists would claim.
All collapses or just certain ones?
@@Restitutor_Orbis_214 There are gaps in my knowledge and there would have been events more significant than others. Some knowledge lost or cultural stagnation. But I can't think of anything that set humanity back hundreds of year.
the Conan Setting is Hyboria (aka the Hyborian Kingdoms)... Hyperborea is one o the northern lands there, based loosely on Finish Mythos.
Yes, it is clearly stated in the video. :)
where can i find a picture of conan in the thumbnail?
Howard invented the age in an effort to hit a sweet spot that his readers would like. His first story’s were the Solomon Kane stories set in the 1600s but this proved too restrictive since the event of that time were well documented. Next he wrote the Kull stories but they didn’t sell as well as he wanted either. He concluded they were too divorced from the modern world for his audience. So he made up the world of Conan with enough references to things and places that would be recognized by his audience but were set long enough ago that there was room for the mythical stories he wanted to tell. This last one seemed to hit what he was going for in terms of capturing the imagination of the audience.
Mind blowing info about this author. H.G. wells was another one that I find very strange. The fact that war of the worls was written in horse and buggy days. Was it written to explain the great fires of the late 1800s? Or was it written to distract from what really happened? Was that why people got so freaked out when they heard the 1930s radio broadcast? Maybe they remembered what happened. ?
Perhaps, there always seems to be a strong response people have affiliated with certain events even when they are only mentioned.
arnold starred in his first movie in 1970! the title is "Hercules in new york". if you haven't seen it, you are missed a classic!
also, watch if you're having trouble falling asleep.
It seems that there is a shared subconscious theme in humanity of these lost cultures that seem to manifest themselves creatively through certain people. As science is catching up with history and fiction, we are seeing that more and more of this lost history is both possible and practical. We just have to wait and see if the truth is stranger than the fiction.
Is the riddle of steel the same as the search for the holy grail. 23:46
It depends on which search for the Holy Grail you are referring to SkyeSage, the serious one (Excalibur) or the silly meaningless one (Monty Python)?
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Lol .. of course the serious one.
Excalibur is the steel ..
I am steel
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Coincidence or
'coin' the dense.
My new revelation.. 😜
It is very similar especially with the understanding of internal strength and persistence. Percival represented the side of Arthur that could not be corrupted. Conan solved the Riddle of Steel in action not allowing himself to be corrupted by Thulsa Doom.
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WOW... What a very deep introspection.
Thank you. ❤️🔥
You are so brilliant.😎
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I often wondered where the name Volusia of Volusia County in Florida came from. 🤔 fascinating. I wonder what that pkace was about.
Stygia= Babylon, replace Set worship with Moloch.
I don't think they are the same.
Nah I always thought it was supposed to mean Egypt. Set was actually a real Egyptian diety.