Classical Composer Reacts to Blackwater Park - Live (Opeth) | The Daily Doug (Episode 84)

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    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm celebrating the 20th anniversary of the release of Opeth's Blackwater Park by listening/reacting to the title track. The reference video is of a live performance at Royal Albert Hall in 2010.
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  • @MrKoolaidjam
    @MrKoolaidjam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    I'm a simple man. I see the word Opeth, I click, no questions asked.

    • @Bukkowsk1
      @Bukkowsk1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Opeth's loyal troops everywhere

    • @TheFbiFilesRepeat
      @TheFbiFilesRepeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bukkowsk1 haha they are xD

    • @marcinnowak5329
      @marcinnowak5329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Word. 🤣

    • @oscarmartinez-rw9zy
      @oscarmartinez-rw9zy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @LittleTahasWorld
      @LittleTahasWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m a slightly complicated man. I see anything related to Blackwater Park, I click.

  • @koyohmi
    @koyohmi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    finally, a "reacts" channel that can actually make more interesting commentary than "wow they're really good".

    • @Fredrikliljemark32
      @Fredrikliljemark32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Word!

    • @MoXy69409
      @MoXy69409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr loll, its so fascinating when people know what theyre doing

    • @masterduda013
      @masterduda013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Glum Sullen was going to mention him as well, love that guy's videos

    • @Terminxman
      @Terminxman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Telling me what key they're in doesn't really do anything for me tbh

    • @Fredrikliljemark32
      @Fredrikliljemark32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Terminxman Don't be honest then. 😂

  • @deed5811
    @deed5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Growling is like a dialect. Once you listen to it enough you start to hear the words more easily.

    • @Yupppi
      @Yupppi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess I require 20 years more to be able to do that.

    • @browncoat697
      @browncoat697 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Yupppi Depends on the vocalist. I find Mikael Akerfeldt here to be quite understandable, in fact sometimes more understandable when growling than some singers are singing, but others (e.g., Corpsegrinder) are completely unintelligible to me.

    • @krisllexo
      @krisllexo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      but mike is an understandable growler, really talented singer in fact.

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    This song wouldn't have the right intensity without the double kick sections

    • @HadesRising
      @HadesRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Couldnt agree with you more. 100%

    • @KyleS.1987
      @KyleS.1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Completely agree. Although I do find Doug's perspective quite valuable, because as a metal fan I just take it for granted that there's going to be double kicks all over the place.

  • @Chilipotamus
    @Chilipotamus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    It is said, "Opeth never played a boring chord," and you picked it out right away! Love listening to the analytical side of reactions, keep it up!

  • @jasonallen5318
    @jasonallen5318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    You probably would've gotten more from the studio version, but nevertheless, if you aren't big on double bass drum, then you definitely picked the worst offender of their songs. I can understand if you're not a fan of constant double pedal because it's repetitive and uninventive, but for this particular song, I find that it helps portray and reinforces the intensity of emotion that builds throughout this entire opus of a song. This was the final track on a most epic album, so it is a finale for sure. I believe this is the only song on this album where Mikael uses guttural vocals for the entirely of the track, but most of older Opeth has a fair blend of clean & harsh vocals.
    Please keep going back to Opeth and I will keep watching your reactions (newly subscribed!).

    • @icipher6730
      @icipher6730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Constant 16th note double bass pedal galore is not more "repetitive and uninventive" than a lot of other very traditional rock/metal bass drum patterns. He simply has a bias, nothing more, nothing less.

    • @liliIiliIilil
      @liliIiliIilil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@icipher6730 Exactly. Is using a known latin rhythm equally uninventive or are they different rhythms that suit different purposes? That being said, music is subjective and we all have our own biases and that is okay. It's just important to be able to identify what is our personal bias and what isn't.

    • @The_ScapeGoat
      @The_ScapeGoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@icipher6730 yes it is. It's quantifiably simpler and therefore quantifiably less inventive. "Constant 16th note double kick" is the same note repeated at the same interval. It's not that it's useless, but it is definitely not that inventive.

    • @corv2731
      @corv2731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think "Master's Apprentices" definitely has more persistent double kick than this, but I feel you haha.

    • @mesterbrge1352
      @mesterbrge1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@corv2731 very true, deliverance overall has a more direct death metal sound overall

  • @cajunvikingrecords
    @cajunvikingrecords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Opeth’s library is so diverse. Every album, every song is an entity, by itself.

  • @rwilt8
    @rwilt8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wish more people would realize what Mendez does for this band. His bass playing is what Opeth always needs.

  • @Isaakmedextraa
    @Isaakmedextraa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Double kick is sort of to drumming what growls are to singing. When you want more and heavier where do you go? An acquired taste in both regards but it definitely has its place. Weather or not you actually like it is another matter.

    • @slimefudge
      @slimefudge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This hits right on the nail.
      If we continue just writing songs to constantly be innovative without having some sort of structure to tie us in, how can we understand what change means?
      In this song and in many songs the straight 16 notes induce a sense of stability, a sense of increase in pace, a sense of increased intensity, and when the double bass drops it gives some resemblance to calm or opens your ears to focus on the groove even more.

    • @HadesRising
      @HadesRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@slimefudge beautifully explained

  • @morlokkurak4763
    @morlokkurak4763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I once converted a beautiful Hispanic lady to metal. Here's how I did it. I would play music in the place where we both worked and she would come by and hear it and it was usually Opeth. Initially she didn't like the death vocals and the distorted guitars, but she did like the mellow music and the clean voices. So I burned a CD of Opeth's "Morningrise" and gave it to her. A couple of months later she came back and said that she was now a metalhead.
    It scary to have that much power.

    • @rivercoyle7591
      @rivercoyle7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gosh I envy your powers. I’ve been trying to get my girlfriend into this type of thing for years. She really likes mellow Opeth but can’t handle the growling

    • @morlokkurak4763
      @morlokkurak4763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rivercoyle7591 if I may offer some advice, help her to understand the growling in the context of the songs. when I first heard death metal and black metal, I was put off by the vocals as well but, I learned to appreciate it, to understand why they do it. If you know the technique of fry singing, you can show her how it's done to help her to understand it more. This type of music is a very acquired taste. Just go slow and maybe she'll get there, but also realize that some people just will never accept it. Be prepared for that as well. 🤘🎶🤘

    • @rivercoyle7591
      @rivercoyle7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@morlokkurak4763 all great advice. I’m hoping it can work because she too is a beautiful Hispanic woman hahaha. I didn’t really like growling either until around high school and that was after listening to heavy rock my entire life. So hopefully in a few more years of me listening to it around her she will come to love it too

    • @NE0MAS
      @NE0MAS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She was probably into you mate :)

  • @casaroli
    @casaroli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    He did 100 million different things before straight 16th note on the kicks.

    • @PauCardona
      @PauCardona 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He always do that, the drummer (in dream theater or SymphonyX, I remember those at least) does wonders, but he just points when the guy goes double bass drum, it's a cognitve bias!

    • @onearthonelegion
      @onearthonelegion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just 10 million

    • @casaroli
      @casaroli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@PauCardona its metal. It's a staple of the genre. Its like complaining that jazz drummers always play the swing...

    • @PauCardona
      @PauCardona 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@casaroli Yes, is like listening to death metal and complaining about the growls, but is also true that Mike Portnoy and the Opeth dude (sorry, don't know the name) are really open minded drummers. I mean Mike f++ng Portnoy!! Must say I really enjoys his reviews other than this drum fixation thing.... 😁

    • @HadesRising
      @HadesRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PauCardona hi there, Martín López was the drummer back then. He left the band months before Ghost Reveries came out. Outstanding drummer.
      If you care to look it up, he has a band called Soen.

  • @apostleintriumph1758
    @apostleintriumph1758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Mikael's vocals were so shot at this show.

    • @bernhardkrickl3567
      @bernhardkrickl3567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, it bothers me quite a bit. On the studio albums his growls are awesome but on most live recordings they are less great :(

    • @benjaminhoneycutt97
      @benjaminhoneycutt97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bernhardkrickl3567 They are better in The Roundhouse performance. His vocals live were in the God Tier from 2001-2008 before fading a bit. Even Mike acknowledges they were off for RAH. They have improved since, as I much prefer his vox at Red Rocks to RAH.
      Honestly, I wish Fred’s effects were different for both LA and BWP in this show. His playing, musicianship and timing is absolutely stellar, but the effects just sounded a little “off” from the rest of the band here (I had none of those complaints at Red Rocks). I thought Peter's effects at The Roundhouse made the latter part of this song sound more haunting (as it does on the album). Minor squibble. I have nothing but praise for everything Fred did in Red Rocks as a point of comparison. Overall it's a small critique for an otherwise legendary performance here (The Moor at RAH was one of their greatest performances ever).

    • @bernhardkrickl3567
      @bernhardkrickl3567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@benjaminhoneycutt97 Yes, Roundhouse was better, I agree.

    • @beapbass
      @beapbass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bernhardkrickl3567 To think that when recording Roundhouse he actually had a really bad cold... but yeah, the Roundhouse version is a lot better, starting with this epic beginning ("Can you sing that note? Now hold it through the entire song")!

    • @HadesRising
      @HadesRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bernhardkrickl3567 Look for Lamentations, live at Shepherds Bush Empire, they had two sets: the mellow one and the metal one as well. Thoroughly enjoyable from start to finish.

  • @kodakblack6643
    @kodakblack6643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    And plague flowers the kaleidoscope by Ne Obliviscaris or The unimaginable zero summer by Wilderun are great songs for a composer

    • @sunilshivanand2008
      @sunilshivanand2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly these two 🤘

    • @pratyushbzr
      @pratyushbzr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Second And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope especially the Live in Denver, Colorado version.

    • @kareemabdulbaki1627
      @kareemabdulbaki1627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im waiting for this reaction

    • @darkdeceptionkillsthelight9653
      @darkdeceptionkillsthelight9653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, absolutely

    • @andrewkemp2238
      @andrewkemp2238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      APftK is one of my all-time favourites - I think Doug wouldn't enjoy the double-bass pedal. Instead, how about Devour Me, Colossus (Part I): Blackholes?

  • @emmalinn
    @emmalinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The Funeral Portrait is my favorite song off Black Water Park. Highly underrated song.

    • @alphaenemyplus8376
      @alphaenemyplus8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It'd be my favorite if Bleak, BWP, The Leper Affinity, and The Drapery Falls weren't already on it.

    • @Juzernejmnakurov2
      @Juzernejmnakurov2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fuck yeeees!

    • @The_ScapeGoat
      @The_ScapeGoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the first Opeth song I ever heard. I immediately downloaded the whole album because I appreciated that they were using an acoustic guitar as a rhythm instrument in a metal song. I knew right away there would be something different about them.

    • @silverphoenix_1756
      @silverphoenix_1756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best for headbanging. Love that track.

    • @TheMrAdax
      @TheMrAdax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, worst song on the album. Cheesy af! I always skip that track.

  • @danib577
    @danib577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I would absolutely love to see you get through The Count of Tuscany by Dream Theater

    • @mirkecWii
      @mirkecWii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For real, he will really like the composition, especially the ending

    • @andybonk365
      @andybonk365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this!!

    • @leonardopinto218
      @leonardopinto218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that's something he'd surely like

    • @Falleninator
      @Falleninator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. The Count and A Change of Seasons

    • @grahampiercemusic6018
      @grahampiercemusic6018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That and ministry of lost souls (studio version, I always thought the live version sounded kind of out of tune)

  • @revylokesh1783
    @revylokesh1783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    If you want some _really interesting_ Opeth, harmonically speaking, try "Benighted", "Face of Melinda", or anything from the "Damnation" album. Those songs are all mostly clean guitars and no double-kick.

  • @ashdarnell3232
    @ashdarnell3232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I believe this is the only song in their entire catalog that has no clean vocals at all. Mikael's harsh vocals were almost gone at this point. He apparently had damaged them on a tour, because he couldn't hear himself properly due to bad equipment and overdid it. Of course, he has transitioned away from growls on more recent albums.
    I don't think this is a concept album (like Still Life was), but there is a distinct theme. This album was produced by Steven Wilson, who is the lead singer of Porcupine Tree.

    • @alexandremarchand8815
      @alexandremarchand8815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Heir Apparent and Wreath are the other one without clean vocals that I can think of !

    • @AugustoRudzinski
      @AugustoRudzinski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@alexandremarchand8815 Wreath has clean vocals at the very end. BWP and Heir Apparent are the only ones with exclusively harsh vocals :)

    • @alexandremarchand8815
      @alexandremarchand8815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AugustoRudzinski Haaaa yeah I just listened to it, I forgot that little part at the end of the song haha :P

    • @spencerb8149
      @spencerb8149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Incorrect. There are quite a few Opeth songs with no clean vocals. In fact, almost all of the songs on My Arms, Your Hearse have no clean vocals at all.

    • @DeadandDECAYED99
      @DeadandDECAYED99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Damnation doesnt have any clean vocals either

  • @Belodri
    @Belodri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    If you wanna see/hear someone using the double kick technique while making it a really creative groove, check out Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope.
    The song is part of the curriculum of the classical composition course at Sydney Conservatorium of Music even though it's a progressive death/black metal piece because it's composition is just that outstanding.

  • @kvltizt
    @kvltizt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "That's an interesting progression y'all" is a good summary of Opeth's entire catalogue tbh.

  • @Sandmanavarium
    @Sandmanavarium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Opeth - Ghost of Perdition, next time you're in an Opeth mood :)

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      duly noted...

    • @Sandmanavarium
      @Sandmanavarium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Consider the studio version over the live version - you can hear the nuance

    • @bernhardkrickl3567
      @bernhardkrickl3567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Doug.Helvering It's their best song imo. On a long list of great songs :)

    • @randomjpxd
      @randomjpxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's hands down one of the best metal songs in the world... you will be surprised. Opeth are such incredible musicians...

  • @zukacs
    @zukacs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    p.s. by the way, if you put lyrics next to any growl vocals you can instantly start hearing them super clean, brain does somekind of funky magic

  • @Wolf1910RTS
    @Wolf1910RTS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Blind Guardian - And then there was silence - lots of interesting orchestral elements in a metal version of Homer's Iliad

    • @nickman287
      @nickman287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The siege of troy part, from the point of view of Cassandra

    • @NamelessOne22
      @NamelessOne22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love if he did this, and he would probably choose the Imaginations Through The Looking Glass version

    • @matthewdigiordano1476
      @matthewdigiordano1476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recommend the studio version from Night at the Opera. The layering and orchestration really make the piece stand out and u kind of lose that live.

    • @Juzernejmnakurov2
      @Juzernejmnakurov2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? So he can just scrap the best parts for having double kick drums? No, thanks.

  • @metallusmelandril7380
    @metallusmelandril7380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i think the double kick gives the song what it needs. POWERFULL Foundation to build everything up on. Upgrade your headphones and listen to the studio version. Then you can deceiver much more!

    • @reubennb2859
      @reubennb2859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saw them live just over a year ago, they'd set the double kick really high in the mix and it really pummelled you in the stomach even at the back of the venue. Really enjoyed it though, my first metal concert

    • @zambotv8150
      @zambotv8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@reubennb2859 You can't dance to it

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zambotv8150 it doesn't matter, you don't dance to Opeth in the first place and you can dance to it, you dance to the quarter notes.

    • @darkphoenix2
      @darkphoenix2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zambotv8150 Head banging, mosh pits, etc are the metal form of dancing

    • @daredevil2724
      @daredevil2724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zambotv8150 you arent supposed to

  • @carloscvtg
    @carloscvtg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dude, I really enjoy your comments about the song and I'm glad you decided to listen to this live version. However, you really need to listen to the studio version with the lyrics on hand to have the best experience possible. I always use this song to test my new speakers or earbuds.

  • @GAIS414
    @GAIS414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Lovelorn Crime is a song from their latest album. It has no growling, no double pedal kick drum, but it's a great song and it features one of the most beautiful rock guitar solos ever recorded.
    Would be cool to see you do a reaction to Opeth without carrying on about how you don't like the double pedals and the growling.
    It's obviously two stylistic choices that you do not really appreciate. Yet. We get where you're coming from. But to most of us who like Opeth those two things adds even more dimension to their songs, and they apply them very skillfully compared to most other bands.

    • @radosawwalkowski5824
      @radosawwalkowski5824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man, the solo from that song... I'm absolutely in love with it

    • @PhoenixDecim
      @PhoenixDecim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I need to listen to that album a couple times.

    • @thetransducer6232
      @thetransducer6232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@radosawwalkowski5824 Same! Stirs up emotions in me!

  • @harshnathjha1579
    @harshnathjha1579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sir, are amazing. Love from an Indian Metalhead.

  • @aaronaubrey7072
    @aaronaubrey7072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, I love growling and double bass drums but to each their own. The intensity is part of the story.

    • @terran236
      @terran236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.

    • @TheEmperius
      @TheEmperius ปีที่แล้ว

      The problems starts when "intensity" becomes the WHOLE story. Then there is no more space for anything else, that's the major problem with almost every black metal band.

  • @TheKungFung
    @TheKungFung 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my youth I listened to pop songs (what ever my mom listened to in the car) like Paula Abdul, Sr. Mix-A-Lot, 80s wave, 90's pop, etc...
    My dad was a guitarist and would show me all kinds of great bands like Metallica, Dream Theater, feckin' SRV! (The G.O.A.T.), Johnny Cash, Zeppelin, etc...
    but my friend in high school introduced me to Opeth. Never looked back since then. As a guitarist now of 18 years, they play some of the most interesting chords and progressions I have ever attempted. A truly amazing band. They have some of the most beautiful songs, and some of the most brutal breakdowns I have ever heard. A real listening experience.
    I used to fall asleep to BWP and Still Life albums at night for probably 2 years straight. Still listen to those albums today quite often.
    I love how this band can pull you right out of your comfort zone and just make you appreciate everything about it.

  • @DicktheBullHauler
    @DicktheBullHauler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think Doug would really enjoy “The Devil’s Orchard” by Opeth

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dog is ged, dog is ged!

  • @guitaray
    @guitaray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want to see a reaction to Master's Apprentices...LOL

    • @HadesRising
      @HadesRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Id prefer By the Pain I See in Others. He would be surprised.

  • @christinejordain168
    @christinejordain168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Showing the structure as you do, by identifying the notes and their repetition, gives another dimension to the listening process. Your knowledge really gives you such a wide appreciation of the music you hear. I do not have that knowledge, but I can appreciate yours, and your use of it. Again, Thank you.

  • @pewpewmoto
    @pewpewmoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why I've been listening to Opeth for over 20 years, their progressive style makes my brain melt and I love it!!! :D

  • @ailbheskyfeather174
    @ailbheskyfeather174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Opeth is amazing; Mikael Åkerfeldt really knows how to write a groove. If you like the tight ensemble feeling in progressive metal, I heartily recommend The Ocean Collective! Some tracks you from their recent two albums you might enjoy both technically and lyrically might be "Devonian: Nascent", "Silurian: Age of Sea Scorpions" and "Jurassic | Cretaceous".

    • @adamhardt4645
      @adamhardt4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second this.

    • @grothd09
      @grothd09 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lead singer that can sing, growl, and play lead guitar…a rare breed & one of the best to do it!

  • @nathanhoxie4427
    @nathanhoxie4427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoying your videos about metal music. So much of it is a continuation of classical music that I'm glad you have that appreciation for it.

  • @baguette6302
    @baguette6302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    you should totally check out Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope, a compositional masterpiece in the metal scene and is even used in a class at the Sydney Conservatorium Of Music

  • @jeffjdt
    @jeffjdt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your reactions! you bring intelligence and your musical theory prowess. Almost seems like listening to these songs again for the first time. Love it

  • @thebluriam
    @thebluriam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Double kick 16ths convey the frantic nature and drive of the realizations being conveyed in the lyrics, and they only resolve once the realizations resolve.

  • @Troyjanwarrior1
    @Troyjanwarrior1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you picked this song to review!! Quite enjoyed it!!There are other songs where he sings though>And believe it or not his voice is quite soothing hahah.

  • @dy0rama
    @dy0rama 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Doug. Another very entertaining reaction. Your analyses of the songs structures are definitely my favorite part. I have to say you're an inspiration to what I want to achieve as a student of music theory. Thank you!!!

  • @frederic_viennot
    @frederic_viennot ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much for doing this !!!!!!!!

  • @matthewdigiordano1476
    @matthewdigiordano1476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really enjoying your analysis, keep it up!

  • @TheSlysterII
    @TheSlysterII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Doug!

  • @tomtomthebear
    @tomtomthebear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you haven’t definitely check out there live performance of deliverance..!!!! It’s outstanding

  • @philblagden
    @philblagden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    May I suggest some Marillion. They've got a huge back catalogue with tons of great songs such as Kayleigh, Neverland, Easter, Beautiful, Splintering Heart, The Great Escape. They have had 2 fantastic vocalists, an awesome guitarist and a great bassist and keyboard player. The songs have great composition and are meaningful and emotional also.

  • @user-ng5gy9mh2j
    @user-ng5gy9mh2j 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, your videos are super wholesome and i love when you talk about what the songs actually do.
    I think you really should consider reacting and analysing video game soundtracks, there is a lot of amazing stuff that youmight actually like since there are also a bunch of more classical compositions to be found.

  • @oblivs2107
    @oblivs2107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would absolutely love for you to you react to In The Shadow of Our Pale Companion by Agalloch! It’s a staple in the world of post black/folk metal.

  • @MrPsy0pus
    @MrPsy0pus ปีที่แล้ว

    I love seeing classical teachers/composers reacting to Opeth's genius, that is so good man !
    Sir, thank you for that one :')

  • @christinejordain168
    @christinejordain168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a good 'ear', Doug. I do enjoy your analysis of the music you review. Thank you.

  • @brack6794
    @brack6794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Most of Opeth's catalog has a Jekyll and Hyde thing going on with the combo of growls and clean vocals in most of their songs. However, in their most recent albums, growls are not featured. Maybe try River from their Pale Communion album and see how you like that!

    • @progperljungman8218
      @progperljungman8218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah! This one is an exception from the "gowls/cleans-rule" of former days.

    • @progperljungman8218
      @progperljungman8218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      (The Damnation album is as well of course...)

  • @danp6941
    @danp6941 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved hearing your insight

  • @fnito500
    @fnito500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice reaction/analysis! I remember a live performance of theirs when Mikael asked the audience to sing that initial note/harmonic and keep singing it throughout the song 🥰😅 great band/song!

  • @evd-89
    @evd-89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really fun to see your perspective on songs that (almost all of them) I listened so much! I would suggest doing Anesthetize live in Tilburg by Porcupine Tree. Long song, beautiful and nicely building up. Good musicians especially the drummer. And Steven Wilson, I think you know him.
    Keep it coming, everytime I see a new upload it makes me happy, loving it.

  • @maidentallica
    @maidentallica 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad to have been there for that gig ❤

  • @sakules
    @sakules 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man your skill to identify chords is insane! great song and great reaction

  • @Jaymzmiller
    @Jaymzmiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy sheet batman, 20 years?! This album still sounds as fresh and cool as ever. It's awesome.

  • @neuroticgothguy
    @neuroticgothguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can't recommend Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope enough, its a masterpiece and worth a listen.

  • @Gorila_Animations
    @Gorila_Animations 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Death metal is not for you to understand the lyrics in the moment, it is about what it makes you feel, then you look for the lyrics and you keep discovering the song, that's the beauty of the genre.

  • @alguien408
    @alguien408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I recommend you Bleak or The Moor if you want long progressive songs, if you want melow songs with no harsh vocals listen to Harvest, Burden or Windowpane.
    All of these are great Opeth songs

  • @caffeineadvocate
    @caffeineadvocate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Theory weeeee!
    Thank you for speaking my language.

  • @randomjpxd
    @randomjpxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope by Ne Obliviscaris. They are studied at Sydney Conseveratorium of Music so, as you can imagine, it's a really great piece of music.

  • @averagejoe4487
    @averagejoe4487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How cool to be able to hear a chord or song and know immediately which chord and progression it is. I enjoy your reactions. More Dream Theater please.

  • @danzambolino
    @danzambolino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dirge for November is probably my favourite from 'Blackwater Park'...would be interesting to hear what you think of it. ;)

  • @icedearth1ful
    @icedearth1ful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel mate. Love the maiden content

  • @istvanbarta2762
    @istvanbarta2762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the fact that with so much experience you still learn something new!

  • @not_hanky_ou
    @not_hanky_ou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you were SPOT ON when you said that maybe it's a "maybe it's sign of things imploding on a central point" during that part of the song. It's the last song on the album and I think it sort of heralds the end and hints toward the last lines in the song:
    "Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark
    The sun sets forever over Black Water Park".
    And more than just the last two lines of course, but I think it hit just right.
    Man, you are great at this. Can't believe I didn't find your channel until today.
    The meaning of this song fits the rest of the album. To me this album is a long journey and tells a story of addiction of a demon or nosferatu feeding on his victims, both relishing in it and feeling disgusted by his need, and remembering his past as he died, and trying to commit suicide to escape his fate but not succeeding. He remains and watches the depravity of manking and evil unfold. Forever bound to watch the world live and die before him, and he can do nothing but remain, forced to feed, forced to suffer and to watch mankind suffer alongside him.

  • @tilman9506
    @tilman9506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the lyrics entail humanity self-destructing itself. I could be wrong about it, but I thought I read that somewhere. I also thought you’d appreciate the fact that the drums are dialed back in the live mic and the album since you don’t like the double bass😂 trust me, some day, you’ll here a killer double bass groove and love it from then on

  • @nickagero
    @nickagero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think a good way look at harsher vocals is to see them as an instrument instead of just lyrics. In my opinion it conveys a lot more emotion than normal singing and gives a track an extra dimension especially when combined with normal singing which he does do in the rest of the album.
    I also love the double kick, apart from the technical aspect I think it can really change the sound of track depending on what he is doing with his arms or whether he slows down, pauses etc. I think a good example in this song is 14:00 to 14:10 where all he does is stop playing the snare and instead hits a cymbal but it makes that riff sound 10x as heavy as before.

    • @TheEmperius
      @TheEmperius ปีที่แล้ว

      Every vocals are instrument, the point is that a song with only harsh vocals is like an instrument with only one note.
      Unless you're doing majority percussive-like songs (such as Meshuggah) that reallys cutdown the options for composition.

  • @HadesRising
    @HadesRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Doug, I'm Luz from Argentina. I discovered you yesterday while surfing youtube and im so glad I did. I've been an Opeth fan for 23 years and its actually a pleasure to hear principles and fundaments from a classical composer. Which is amazing is, as a girl that doesn't play any instruments but super keen to learn at least some of the music theory, by listening to you i can add more depth and knowledge to the feelings i already have for them.
    Id have liked that you couldve listened to the studio version of Blackwater Park. Mikaels voice was on point and well, he kind of lost it by then.
    While it is not a conceptual album, it has a cohesive union that binds and ties everything together, each song has a purpose and as any other record has a purpose as to why it is specifically there (not that im saying anything new 😂).
    This is the final song and his words at the end of it, quote: "The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park" gets me chills everytime adding this texture of absolute darkness in a magnificent way with a hint of calm with those acoustic guitars. That's why i believe lyrics and music goes hand in hand, so next time keep it close so you can understand how the dynamics between lyrics and music flows as one. And i think, for us metal fans, its of massive importance.
    Even if I have 2 absolute favorite records from them, this record will forever be in my top 3. It's special and i hold it close to my heart forever. Sorry for the typos or grammatical mistakes and for the long ass writing.
    I enjoy your videos a lot, Doug. Greetings!

  • @lalligood
    @lalligood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those moments that cause Doug to stop mid-syllable with that surprised look on his face? Priceless. Best part of his reactions.

  • @MichaAdamczyk_Rav
    @MichaAdamczyk_Rav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you like anniversaries really go for "The Last Baron". Mastodon recently turned 21, and the song is bonkers.

  • @cameronburnett9679
    @cameronburnett9679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think their Damnation album is one of my top 10 of all time. It's all clean vocals, super mellow, and only light distortion on the leads. Try Windowpane. The beauty of his PRS guitars really come through too.

  • @Faethordz
    @Faethordz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doug, Good reaction. Love Opeth. This era of their catalog is heavy on growl and double bass drum but still very creative arrangements with heavy and acoustic sections. Their album Damnation release shortly after the album Black Water Park, is predominantly acoustic based songs. Windowpane, In my Time of Need and others are fan favorites. Really great tunes, and no double bass drums. Later albums are varied, with clean vocal, prog rock vibes, and much experimentation. Heritage & Pale Communion have some really great music that is very versatile with great vocal arrangements. Songs of note, The Devils Orchard, I feel the Dark, Famine, Voice of Treason, River, Moon Above Sun Below...so many great offerings. You can't go wrong. Cheers.

  • @shanekelley3064
    @shanekelley3064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Opeth are great. The entire Blackwater album is fantastic. Got me through some tough times after the passing of my father. Favorite song on the album being "Harvest".

  • @fabiotramontini3434
    @fabiotramontini3434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    classic song, great band, tnks from brazil

  • @robertfarrior7275
    @robertfarrior7275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please react to the official video for Eluveitie's Rebirth. Eluveitie is a Swiss Folk Metal band that blends metal guitars, drum and vocals with folk instruments like bagpipes, whistles, mandola, hurdy gurdy, fiddle and harps.

    • @robertfarrior7275
      @robertfarrior7275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have done multiple songs from some bands, but if you really want to react to or analyze something unique, Eluveitie's Rebirth is it. In one of your videos, you commented on drumming as "doesnt anybody do something more interesting than 16th notes", or something similar. This drummer does. It is an amazing mix of metal and folk music. I saw them live in 2019 and it blew me away. Please react to Rebirth (the official video). If you can, pay attention to the harsh lyrics, which are incongruous with the image the music projects.

  • @cezarybartkowiak5779
    @cezarybartkowiak5779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big request : Opeth - The Drapery Falls (album version)

  • @mattyackey9654
    @mattyackey9654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blackwater Park, Deliverance and Damnation, the two following albums were all produced by Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree), that was the real secret to these albums...

  • @PhilBot4OOO
    @PhilBot4OOO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Symphony X - The Odyssey. Absolutely phenomenal long symphonic metal piece that really takes you through the paces!
    First video of yours and enjoyed it!

  • @TheArcticFoxxo
    @TheArcticFoxxo ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fun to see a guy that's entirely into music theory..
    Judge an artist that makes his songs without any.
    It's interesting to see the thought process of "wow this progression is really great and sounds unbelievable" then Mikael is just in the studio going "no wait this sounds better" going note by note.

  • @TheOrthoglyph
    @TheOrthoglyph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Opeth - Moon Above, Sun Below would be a great song for you.
    Additionally... as stated before Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope (live in Colorado) is an absolute must as it's a composer's wet dream and their most iconic song.

  • @KenoxProductions
    @KenoxProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    12:09 - Not far off from the lyrical theme, actually. The song is about a village ravaged by disease from a perspective of a still healthy villager, who then gets infected and eventually dies, right around the time you pointed that out.
    EDIT: Ah, should've watched before commenting. Oops. And yes, it is a metaphor for society and it's eventual demise, or so I've heard. The societies obsession with morbidity and evil, to be more precise.

  • @marc_randrianarison
    @marc_randrianarison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best reacting channel on TH-cam

  • @danielloiselle7553
    @danielloiselle7553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really fascinating hearing you break down songs in a way that's beyond my understanding. I think you would appreciate how Snarky Puppy composees their music. Check out the song "Lingus" if you do.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really like their music...Lingus is amazing.

    • @danielloiselle7553
      @danielloiselle7553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Doug.Helvering haha I can't say that I'm surprised that you've heard them already

    • @777malkavian
      @777malkavian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Doug.Helvering I’m sure many people would love the musical analysis of Lingus, even if you’ve seen it before!

  • @charlespeter5610
    @charlespeter5610 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Opeth is one of the tightest bands I've seen musically. Everything sounded *perfect* when I saw them. What a great band.

  • @vitman4414
    @vitman4414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rock on Doug! :)

  • @luliby2309
    @luliby2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disagreed on the double kick drumming. It adds so much intensity and heaviness that helps add to the build up in the song. Everything comes to a head after so much epic build up. It's great. Nice to see an Opeth analysis from someone so knowledgeable about music. Good luck man.

  • @abhimanyusingh6481
    @abhimanyusingh6481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job mate. I hate people doing just 'darn they're good'.. your reaction makes sense. Danke

  • @claytonperrin4972
    @claytonperrin4972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do Serenity Painted Death next from the Still Life(Remastered) Album. It’s a Masterpiece as well. 🤘🏼

  • @metalman1a
    @metalman1a 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sun sets forever over blackwater park.... gets me every time

  • @jacksmith4460
    @jacksmith4460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This track does not demonstrate his awesome clean vocals, believe it or not he sings like an angel (in between the growling lool)

  • @josuevillarreal4007
    @josuevillarreal4007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your reactions; Opeth is one of my favorites bands ever; you should react to eternal rains will come; some of the new stuff. Saludos desde Costa Rica 🇨🇷

  • @mvunit3
    @mvunit3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Former member "Per Wiberg" supplying that high note with the keyboards (awfully funny guy with a dry wit) who also does backing vocals. He is in the band "Spiritual Beggars" (which ironically Opeth sounds like for the last 4 albums, and a bit of Uriah Heep/Deep Purple/Dio era-Rainbow).
    Again Doug, the double-bass is _indicative_ of the Death Metal genre (and Thrash), it wouldn't be what it is without certain elements (i.e. It wouldn't be Death Metal without the Grunting/Guttural/"Cookie Monster" vocals). It's part of the Voracity of the music that helps make it "Brutal", but also remember what he is playing at the same time with the other drums and cymbals (note: can a "Classical" Percussionist do that, and track after track for a 2-3 hour live performance? Unless he/she is into "Metal" as well ;).
    For the melodic & guttural voices, try the track: "The Moor" from the same venue, or from the "Lamentations" Video, where they play tracks from the ALL melodic vocal album "Damnation".
    Btw - You can always find their Lyrics on-line (Darklyrics dot com), and look at it as your "Libretto" :). Edit: Your translation of the lyrics is right on, the line/verse;
    "Mob round the dead
    Point fingers at the details
    Probing vomits for more
    Caught in unbridled suspense"
    Much like those that are morbidly curious or the "media" that need that curiosity to get views, or from those that enjoy probing, bullying, antagonizing others, yet THEY are the villains . . .
    "We have all lost it now
    Catching the flakes of dismay
    Born the travesty of man
    Regular pulse midst pandemonium
    You're plucked to the mass
    Parched with thirst for the wicked"
    . . . sounds like the world we live in :(.
    - Thanks again for your musical insights maestro Helvering!

  • @DaniDogenigt
    @DaniDogenigt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Doug, love your analyses!
    I myself was trained under the Royal Academy of Music in Denmark and I like metal and symphonic music and of course the obvious choice for your to react to next is Dimmu Borgir - Gateways (Live at Forces of The Northern Night) but a track I'd personally like to see you react to is by my all-time favourite band, "Godspeed You Black Emperor - Rockets Fall on Rocket Falls". It's post-rock. Best regards, Døgenigt

  • @emmalinn
    @emmalinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not a concept album but you could say that there is a link between the songs because they all pretty much deal with the same kind of subject. The albums Still Life and My Arms, Your Hearse are concept albums. Great reaction as always! Would love to see more reactions to Opeth!

  • @declan4456
    @declan4456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you hate standard double bass parts as much as you do then dude, wait until you hear blast beats!! 😆
    You should check out a track called Sancta Terra by Epica.
    Particularly their live performance of it with Floor Jansen (Nightwish). It has a full live Choir and Orchestra plus the band and is mixed beautifully. I really think you’ll enjoy it!!

  • @haezeematera7671
    @haezeematera7671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This album is so awesome and Mikeal is simply a genius in my opinion !!! The whole album could be adapted in a classical master piece just for people to understand and feel how deep it is !!! It is all about (dark) emotions ...

  • @rickardlinde4936
    @rickardlinde4936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see a video when you compose something with that progression.

  • @jonathanhenderson9422
    @jonathanhenderson9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to believe this is 20 years old... I discovered them around the time this album came out when I was 15. I suddenly feel old now...

  • @xetus5227
    @xetus5227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dunno if you'll even see this with how late my comment is on the video, but fun fact: that high note you mentioned in the beginning was added by Steven Wilson who also produced on the Blackwater Park album. He also does vocals in Bleak.

  • @adelsaleh938
    @adelsaleh938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Opeth always liked to experiment with progressions and key changes. Examples are Face of Melinda, Bleak, Harvest, Hessian Peel, Folklore, and even more so in older albums with songs such as The Night and the Silent Water and Black Rose Immortal.