This video was really helpfull! Thank you so much for making this video. I was cleaning the brewgroup for the first time (my husband usually does that), but I couldn't get the brewgroup to get back in the machine. After I saw your video and watcht it again step by step I managed to do it. Now I didn't have to make a fool out of myself by asking my husband to help me. He'll be really surprised I didn't just clean it, but that I'd even greased the components.
Thank you for taking the time to really walk through the steps & show all of the angles. I am a sanitizing feign, but ai didn’t know you could take the machine apart like this! 🙈 Going to clean my machine now!
Thank you so much for this! I was given a Saeco Talea Giro Plus from a friend that NEVER cleaned or lubed it. I don't know how old this machine is, but he used it daily and WOW was it gross! I can't believe it still works. 😆 I cleaned it with you and the lube is on order! Thanks again!!
Thank you, so happy to see this. The condition of the is brew group is like my brew group. I’ve followed the manufacturer cleaning instructions to just rinse the brew group. I was shocked to how the coffee built up in the factory grease and then the instructions say to add grease every few months🤯 So I didn’t grease it didn’t make sense for the amount of coffee build up after having a manual coffee machine. Now I feel confident I can clean all that build up and re greasing now makes sense. I had been worried that the manufacture felt maybe properly cleaning would damage stuff and I was trusting the manufacturers instructions. Your video makes sense to me in the knowledge of having worked professionally with coffee and coffee machines both as a job and in my home. Time to give the brew group a detail clean🤩👍
In the instruction booklet it explicitly states not to use soap or any kind of detergent on the brew group... well at least in my Saeco XSmall manual it does
When you're doing a weekly rinse, you use cold water and no soap to keep the grease in place. When you are going to do a full clean and re-grease, then using hot water / brush / a little soap helps get rid of the crusted coffee grinds. (Soap might not be great for the rubber. I only grease mine 3-4 times a year so a little soap then won't kill it.)
I tried, but the manual did not show clearly what and where to lubricate. The video did 😆I watched it this morning and now I have a well cleaned and well lubricated brew unit, thank you so much!!
Thank you for this helpful video. I watched several videos prior to yours, thanks for finding you! my brew stacked and I learned that all I have to do is to push the yellow thing down - and WALLA - everything is working. Also, I used toothbrush to clean deeply the brew after watching you doing it with no fear at all. and finally I even greased it. where can I purchase your grease?
Hello, and thank you for watching. This is exactly what we like to hear: people getting great help from our video. Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment, and we hope you keep the household well-caffeinated.
Interesting, I use hot water, but have been reluctant to use soap because I've been concerned about fully rinsing it off. I'll try that on the next go around. I set reminders for myself for weekly rinse, monthly de-oil, bimonthly re-greasing.
do you have a video on how to descale the same machine? I tried on mine and when it started the descale process the lower tray was filled with water, per manual I couldn't let the water with the solution do it's thing for 10 minutes before letting the water out.
Does only original lubricant have to be used, e.g. PHILIPS HD5061, or can it be any of those offered by coffee machine stores or possibly another? Alternatively, can you specify what other lubricant would be suitable? The original one is expensive and there is very little of it in the package. If I drink, for example, 4 coffees a day, and the brewing block says lubrication every 500 coffees, it turns out that I should lubricate it approximately every 4 months. Will the period between lubrication be too long? Please reply.
Very informative. Great instructional video. I have an older model than this and I can't make the arrows line up. Mine is all gray, no yellow. I have been avoiding it for so long because I was afraid of this. Now I won't be able to make coffee tomorrow 😪.
We use "Petrol Gel" a food base equipment grease from Amazon...it's cheap and works great. Comes in a pack of 2 and should last a lifetime, it doesn't take much to lube brew unit.
Good video, thanks for showing the motion of the unit. I've been wondering how that works for a long time. I haven't added grease since I brought the Saeco machine 7 years ago. About 4 to 6 cups of coffee per day. I use fairly oily coffee though, so it may add its own lubrication. I also don't use detergent when rinsing as instructed by the manual, so this probably has served to preserve the manufacturers grease, and the natural oils from the bean as lubricants. I also think the need for grease is probably over stated by Saeco as another warranty voiding claim they can make. It's a fairly heavy grease, and this isn't a spinning mechanical which would require heavier greases. But after a good scrubbing clean like yours with detergent, I would still add the grease as you show. But I don't think it's required every month. Maybe ever 3 months to 1 year if overly worried about it. My oily coffee may have killed the original bean grinding unit, but the replacement grinder has been working fine for the last 4 years with the same oily bean. If I'm going to have a machine like this, Im not going to go settle for only brands that have dry beans like the manual requires. I imagine a lot of the flavour comes from the oil in those beans as well.
Thank you for this. My grinder works fine on my Saeco Incanto de luxe, but the beans are not going down into automatically and it keeps thinking it is out of beans. So I have to use a knife or something to feed the beans down into the grinder for it to work. Can you help with this issue please?
@@blioncorp That isn't true, you need degreaser or dish soup to dissolve the grease. Also in the manual says you don't need to regrease if u just wash it with cold water
Please help , I followed the instructions as shown. Still the coffee is not strong and comes just out of 1 hole, insteat out of both. What can I do? Greetings from The Netherlands
I keep getting the warning light which is the triangle with the red dot. I have followed the steps you showed in the last 50 seconds but no matter what I do, my unit is not functional. Its one years old and this dreaded light doesn't go away even thought everything is in right position and the door closes fine. Any ideas?
Hi there, There are different reasons why the machine may be leaking, Some of the main ones are a broken boiler connector or a gasket that need replacement. causing contactingdirectservice We also have parts available if you detect the problem and would like to repair it yourself. Please visit our website: geniusequipment.com or email us at info@geniusequipment.com Cheers,
Sometimes the drain gets clogged. To check if this is the case on your machine remove the brew unit, you should see a piston with 2 orange o-rings inside of an opening in the main part of the machine. In that opening (bottom left corner, towards front) there's a hole that drains into the drip tray (front of machine). Use your finger initially to feel inside the opening at the bottom left corner. If there's coffee sludge or build up this will cause water to leak under the machine and sometimes inside the brew unit tray. Simply remove the build up using pipe cleaner, toothpick etc. Rinse repeatedly with water until drain opening is clear. This should probably be checked monthly depending in usage. Hope this helps.
Hi Sputnik, Yes, you can use Puly Caff Powder, make sure to use it in small quantities with a quick wash. If you are looking to remove oils you can also consider the oil remover from Saeco. Please find link below: www.geniusequipment.com/collections/deals/products/saeco-cleaner Cheers,
I have an old Saeco Primea Ring and I notice sometimes when I brew, like on strong brew or normal the motor slows right down sometimes to an almost stall. Or when it does stall it goes into cycle interrupted and dumps the coffee.
Hi there, Saeco made few models using a newer version of the brew unit (the one on the right) then went back to the one that was used in most of their machines. All new machines use the older version of the brew unit, which does a great job!
Hi there, You can check out the grease that we used in the video on our website - www.geniusequipment.com/products/saeco-grease?_pos=1&_sid=3e70c9060&_ss=r Thanks so much! Cheers
We use "Petrol Gel" a food base equipment grease from Amazon...it's cheap and works great. Comes in a pack of 2 and should last a lifetime, it doesn't take much to lube brew unit.
That was very informative, thanks. But my problem is that I cannot get the brew group out of my Saeco Inculto Deluxe. I followed the Saeco Troubleshooting video, which was basically switch the machine off... switch back on and remove the brew group. Rubbish! The brew group remains stuck in the machine. May I suggest that would be a cool video for you to produce. Cheers.
For the plastic it's probably fine. I wash my rinse trays in the dishwasher all the time. It's the rubber seal that you might have issue with. Also, you would have to grease it thoroughly every time after the dishwasher I would imagine.
Always important to lube if you want to avoid plastic wear. Grease is cheap... A brew group is not. If the brew group does not move smoothly, it could block the machine in a position where you could not remove the brew group easily. And believe me, you don't want to try that !
my brewing unit is accumulating mold even in the brewing equip! and I do the basic cleaning stuff weekly.. anyhow, is this mold thing a normal condition for this saeco machine? is it a common problem on all similar machines? (I believe not, it seems the saeco design is poor in this area and allows water accumulation in multiple points which then leads to mold :( sad! I feel like returning my equipment.
I’m not sure washing with soap is a good idea. The brew unit gets clean but the taste of your coffee will be altered by the soap. I will also use a toothbrush.
I'm sorry but this is a dumb video. No one is going to spend 20 minutes scrubbing down the brew group like that every week. The manual indicates cleaning it under water every week and greasing it every 2 months, so probably a good scrubbing and greasing it once a month would be more than good enough. Using q-tips to apply grease so vigorously will probably also leave some fibers along the tracks that get lubricated for movement, not a good thing I would guess.
This video was really helpfull! Thank you so much for making this video. I was cleaning the brewgroup for the first time (my husband usually does that), but I couldn't get the brewgroup to get back in the machine. After I saw your video and watcht it again step by step I managed to do it. Now I didn't have to make a fool out of myself by asking my husband to help me. He'll be really surprised I didn't just clean it, but that I'd even greased the components.
Bingo! I was in the same position
At last a detailed how to, have been cleaning and greasing my Saeco now for a few years - correctly i thought - until now. Many thanks 😀
Glad it helped... thank you for watching 😉
Thank you for taking the time to really walk through the steps & show all of the angles. I am a sanitizing feign, but ai didn’t know you could take the machine apart like this! 🙈 Going to clean my machine now!
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. My brew unit is now nicely maintained!
This was the best detailed video I’ve found. Thank you !
Thank you so much for this! I was given a Saeco Talea Giro Plus from a friend that NEVER cleaned or lubed it. I don't know how old this machine is, but he used it daily and WOW was it gross! I can't believe it still works. 😆 I cleaned it with you and the lube is on order! Thanks again!!
PHILIPS EP3362 Brewing group Clean / Maintenance th-cam.com/video/CwbgNoZQaew/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, so happy to see this. The condition of the is brew group is like my brew group. I’ve followed the manufacturer cleaning instructions to just rinse the brew group. I was shocked to how the coffee built up in the factory grease and then the instructions say to add grease every few months🤯 So I didn’t grease it didn’t make sense for the amount of coffee build up after having a manual coffee machine. Now I feel confident I can clean all that build up and re greasing now makes sense. I had been worried that the manufacture felt maybe properly cleaning would damage stuff and I was trusting the manufacturers instructions. Your video makes sense to me in the knowledge of having worked professionally with coffee and coffee machines both as a job and in my home. Time to give the brew group a detail clean🤩👍
I properly greased my brew group after hmmm 4 years ? Wonder it's still working ... so thank you very much :))
Super helpful, thanks so much. Nicely paced, good patience, lighting was good enough to see what needs lubrication. Thanks!
In the instruction booklet it explicitly states not to use soap or any kind of detergent on the brew group... well at least in my Saeco XSmall manual it does
same here
Same here and in addition it says only to leave the water drop on it....so no scrubbing.. I wonder why ...
Yeah he does exactly the opposite of what's said in the instructions...I'm confused.
It’s because he’s re-lubing it very frequently compared to the lube interval suggested in the instructions
When you're doing a weekly rinse, you use cold water and no soap to keep the grease in place. When you are going to do a full clean and re-grease, then using hot water / brush / a little soap helps get rid of the crusted coffee grinds. (Soap might not be great for the rubber. I only grease mine 3-4 times a year so a little soap then won't kill it.)
this is the best cleaning video and decreasing as well. Thank you very much indeed.
I tried, but the manual did not show clearly what and where to lubricate. The video did 😆I watched it this morning and now I have a well cleaned and well lubricated brew unit, thank you so much!!
Thank you for this helpful video. I watched several videos prior to yours, thanks for finding you! my brew stacked and I learned that all I have to do is to push the yellow thing down - and WALLA - everything is working. Also, I used toothbrush to clean deeply the brew after watching you doing it with no fear at all. and finally I even greased it. where can I purchase your grease?
Hello, and thank you for watching. This is exactly what we like to hear: people getting great help from our video. Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment, and we hope you keep the household well-caffeinated.
Thanks for this video. The manual recommendations for cleaning and it doesn’t need to be cleaned weekly unless you’re making 10+ cups a day.
Absolutely excellent video! My hat off to you sir!
Interesting, I use hot water, but have been reluctant to use soap because I've been concerned about fully rinsing it off. I'll try that on the next go around. I set reminders for myself for weekly rinse, monthly de-oil, bimonthly re-greasing.
Thank you, this is extremely helpful!
Once a week!? manufacturer says once every 6 months. I clean it every time I change the water filter.
I recommend once a month PHILIPS EP3362 Brewing group Clean / Maintenance th-cam.com/video/CwbgNoZQaew/w-d-xo.html
do you have a video on how to descale the same machine? I tried on mine and when it started the descale process the lower tray was filled with water, per manual I couldn't let the water with the solution do it's thing for 10 minutes before letting the water out.
Does only original lubricant have to be used, e.g. PHILIPS HD5061, or can it be any of those offered by coffee machine stores or possibly another? Alternatively, can you specify what other lubricant would be suitable? The original one is expensive and there is very little of it in the package.
If I drink, for example, 4 coffees a day, and the brewing block says lubrication every 500 coffees, it turns out that I should lubricate it approximately every 4 months. Will the period between lubrication be too long?
Please reply.
Very informative. Great instructional video. I have an older model than this and I can't make the arrows line up. Mine is all gray, no yellow. I have been avoiding it for so long because I was afraid of this. Now I won't be able to make coffee tomorrow 😪.
Can a person use coconut oil vs. the paying for these little tubes?
I just bought the Saeco Xelsis Supreme and also had the brew system on the left? That can be the old system right, it’s their latest model?
so what type of grease can be used in the brew unit. I cannot find any official grease in my place. Will it be NSF H1 or 3H?
We use "Petrol Gel" a food base equipment grease from Amazon...it's cheap and works great. Comes in a pack of 2 and should last a lifetime, it doesn't take much to lube brew unit.
Good video, thanks for showing the motion of the unit. I've been wondering how that works for a long time.
I haven't added grease since I brought the Saeco machine 7 years ago. About 4 to 6 cups of coffee per day. I use fairly oily coffee though, so it may add its own lubrication. I also don't use detergent when rinsing as instructed by the manual, so this probably has served to preserve the manufacturers grease, and the natural oils from the bean as lubricants. I also think the need for grease is probably over stated by Saeco as another warranty voiding claim they can make. It's a fairly heavy grease, and this isn't a spinning mechanical which would require heavier greases. But after a good scrubbing clean like yours with detergent, I would still add the grease as you show. But I don't think it's required every month. Maybe ever 3 months to 1 year if overly worried about it.
My oily coffee may have killed the original bean grinding unit, but the replacement grinder has been working fine for the last 4 years with the same oily bean. If I'm going to have a machine like this, Im not going to go settle for only brands that have dry beans like the manual requires. I imagine a lot of the flavour comes from the oil in those beans as well.
Wouldn you mind telling me what unit you are using?
did you repair/ replace the internal grinder of your unit? how did you go about doing that?
What do you use to grease it
White Silicon grease for food contact.
Thank you for this.
My grinder works fine on my Saeco Incanto de luxe, but the beans are not going down into automatically and it keeps thinking it is out of beans.
So I have to use a knife or something to feed the beans down into the grinder for it to work.
Can you help with this issue please?
Use brush only if u going to regrease it otherwise once a week wash have to be done only with water
COLD water as WARM water will dissolve the grease.
@@blioncorp That isn't true, you need degreaser or dish soup to dissolve the grease. Also in the manual says you don't need to regrease if u just wash it with cold water
can't find lubricane grease, what can you recommend to replace?. Thank you
Did he answer you?
What if you dont have a brush? Would dish soap and hot water be fine? Nice video btw
Buy one? :)
Please help , I followed the instructions as shown. Still the coffee is not strong and comes just out of 1 hole, insteat out of both. What can I do? Greetings from The Netherlands
03:27 Wouldn't that make the grease to get rubbed on the entire brew group ? Or, it could remove it completely from where it should exist.
I keep getting the warning light which is the triangle with the red dot. I have followed the steps you showed in the last 50 seconds but no matter what I do, my unit is not functional. Its one years old and this dreaded light doesn't go away even thought everything is in right position and the door closes fine. Any ideas?
I have same issue 😞 can you help
Could we wash it?
Hello MrMrtydn, yes, you can wash the whole brew unit. If you have grease on hand, I usually suggest to using hot water.
What grease we can buy?
what can cause water leakage from under the bottom of the Saeco Incanto deluxe machine? (clean water)
Hi there,
There are different reasons why the machine may be leaking,
Some of the main ones are a broken boiler connector or a gasket that need replacement.
causing
contactingdirectservice
We also have parts available if you detect the problem and would like to repair it yourself. Please visit our website: geniusequipment.com or email us at info@geniusequipment.com
Cheers,
Sometimes the drain gets clogged. To check if this is the case on your machine remove the brew unit, you should see a piston with 2 orange o-rings inside of an opening in the main part of the machine. In that opening (bottom left corner, towards front) there's a hole that drains into the drip tray (front of machine). Use your finger initially to feel inside the opening at the bottom left corner. If there's coffee sludge or build up this will cause water to leak under the machine and sometimes inside the brew unit tray. Simply remove the build up using pipe cleaner, toothpick etc. Rinse repeatedly with water until drain opening is clear. This should probably be checked monthly depending in usage. Hope this helps.
Thank you for this! Philips it's own instructions were... very minimal to say the least.
PHILIPS EP3362 Brewing group Clean / Maintenance th-cam.com/video/CwbgNoZQaew/w-d-xo.html
Is it safe to wash also rubber seals in Puly Caff Powder solution(or whatever cleaning powder) together with the Brew Unit?
Hi Sputnik,
Yes, you can use Puly Caff Powder, make sure to use it in small quantities with a quick wash. If you are looking to remove oils you can also consider the oil remover from Saeco. Please find link below:
www.geniusequipment.com/collections/deals/products/saeco-cleaner
Cheers,
How often should we clean & lubricate the brew unit ?
I have an old Saeco Primea Ring and I notice sometimes when I brew, like on strong brew or normal the motor slows right down sometimes to an almost stall. Or when it does stall it goes into cycle interrupted and dumps the coffee.
This is the old unit? I just got my 2200 series, i thought its new lol
Hi there,
Saeco made few models using a newer version of the brew unit (the one on the right) then went back to the one that was used in most of their machines. All new machines use the older version of the brew unit, which does a great job!
What kind of grease do you use??
Hi there,
You can check out the grease that we used in the video on our website - www.geniusequipment.com/products/saeco-grease?_pos=1&_sid=3e70c9060&_ss=r
Thanks so much!
Cheers
We use "Petrol Gel" a food base equipment grease from Amazon...it's cheap and works great. Comes in a pack of 2 and should last a lifetime, it doesn't take much to lube brew unit.
hi, anyone know where the saeco foot goes (small rubber cylinder) came out of machine. Thanks
That was very informative, thanks. But my problem is that I cannot get the brew group out of my Saeco Inculto Deluxe. I followed the Saeco Troubleshooting video, which was basically switch the machine off... switch back on and remove the brew group. Rubbish! The brew group remains stuck in the machine. May I suggest that would be a cool video for you to produce. Cheers.
I notice when I clean a lot of areas where there is manufacturer grease, im worried to disturb that when washing..
Wow that’s aggressive. Will the paper Tower Fiber cause problem?
Thanks.
Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to clean it in the dishwasher at 45 degrees or so. What do you think?
I think it's a bad idea, read it somewhere once
For the plastic it's probably fine. I wash my rinse trays in the dishwasher all the time. It's the rubber seal that you might have issue with. Also, you would have to grease it thoroughly every time after the dishwasher I would imagine.
thanks!
Not sure how important the greasing is….. I had mine since 2015 and never greased it….. but I just ordered some grease.
Always important to lube if you want to avoid plastic wear. Grease is cheap... A brew group is not.
If the brew group does not move smoothly, it could block the machine in a position where you could not remove the brew group easily. And believe me, you don't want to try that !
my brewing unit is accumulating mold even in the brewing equip! and I do the basic cleaning stuff weekly..
anyhow, is this mold thing a normal condition for this saeco machine? is it a common problem on all similar machines? (I believe not, it seems the saeco design is poor in this area and allows water accumulation in multiple points which then leads to mold :( sad! I feel like returning my equipment.
very helpful
Спасибо, все понятно, хотя без перевода. А что за смазка в круглой коробочке? А то уж очень маленький тюбик в наборе и купить его проблематично
I’m not sure washing with soap is a good idea. The brew unit gets clean but the taste of your coffee will be altered by the soap. I will also use a toothbrush.
!!! the best
I'm sorry but this is a dumb video. No one is going to spend 20 minutes scrubbing down the brew group like that every week. The manual indicates cleaning it under water every week and greasing it every 2 months, so probably a good scrubbing and greasing it once a month would be more than good enough. Using q-tips to apply grease so vigorously will probably also leave some fibers along the tracks that get lubricated for movement, not a good thing I would guess.
exactly my thinking, should not use those q-tips. even on the video there is a massive fibre left in there if I recall correctly
But once a month it's ok to clean th-cam.com/video/CwbgNoZQaew/w-d-xo.html
just throw this garbage machine away and buy a proper one
This is a very bad video that can damage the brew unit. Move on folks!
You're wasting too much water, do the same thing with a sink stopper and hot water!
What kind of grease have you used?