This era of post harcore music just hit different man, I can't explain it... I wish we could go back. I'm proud to own this record on vinyl TC has one of my favorite vocalist since Woe days. Michael Bohn never really got the credit he deserved neither he was a unit as a screamer.
I really can’t tell if it was because he hated the music he made and wanted to go back to more melodic roots but Issues was just a less hardcore r&b band with meshuggah chugs
This song just kicked way to much ass.. Back then they were real and just so good.. I miss this so much. Wish I could go to at least one of the shows with all original members.
This is not vengeance whatsoever. Vengeance was written without/after Tyler carter basically slamming him for leaving the band. Listen to the lyrics, it’s their Vengance against him, get it?
so what they played was basically just the instrumental, if you listen to vengeance you'll hear the guitars play the same exact riff. music is written over a prolonged period. what happened was they probably wrote the instrumental or just that part of vengeance, just used it as an intro for fame over demise, and after tyler left which was VERY close to the time of this video, they finished the song and wrote lyrics which were against tyler hope this helps :)
You need to be looking more in depth musically. Play vengeance please and replay this intro. It is not at all the same, just maybe a little similar. “I WILL LIVE FOREVERRR” & then bam vengeance starts with a breakdown. That entire breakdown drum track in the beginning/end of vengeance which is what you guys are referring to/are seeing the similarities from, is simply not this. Not the same, not related, maybe just a little bit coincidentally similar. While many breakdowns do sound similar, you need to be able to dissect the drum pattern so you know what’s exactly what. Give me one of your phone numbers I’ll send you a video of the differences
Yes, they backtracked the lead parts. They weren't able to find a lead guitarist before Warped. So they backtracked the lead and Kevin played his parts.
@MatthewBurditt1 @AlexalikesNutella bands always do this. Abandon all ships used to use the last breakdown of the song "Shake your AAS" as their intro.
Uh did they just back track lead guitar? I dont see tim sherrills replacement. :P lol it sucks that kevin hanson is the only one left. Haha and he's rythym guitar
Completely off topic from Tyler leaving and the recording time but.. Did amusing else notice the chick in the trucker hat infront of the guy recording this..?
Who is the dude in the basketball jersey? I don't think I recognize him.. lol but tyler is fucking amazing his cover of someone like you is better than adelle could ever be
That Cover wasint bad. But adele oviously is better than tyler. Is that even a question? Tyler is Amazing Live and in general. But he is in no form better than adele in her OWN song at that.
Adele is trash in my opinion. Don't like a single one of her songs. Tyler can out sing her any day. You're right. It isn't even a question. He did her song better than her & not that this should count towards who the better singer is but I lost all respect for her the moment she was asked during an interview on a talk show about if she was familiar with this kind of music. The interviewer was going on to say that they have made metal covers of her song. She made a stink face when asked the question, implying that she thinks this kind of music is trash & isn't real music, which pissed me the fuck off. A simple, "yes I am familiar with that genre of music" would have sufficed. This music is better than all others in my opinion & again, I do NOT like a single one of her songs nor do I care for her voice, her appearance, anything. In no way, shape or form, do I find her appealing. when she disrespected Metal, I wanted to punch her in her british fucking teeth. Now obviously, you think she is better than Tyler. You are entitled to your opinion & all but bro, just no. Tyler will always go down in history as the greatest singer, past, present & future in my book. Number[S] is tattooed on my arm & in my opinion will always be the best fucking album ever made in the history of ever. Yes, clearly I am an original Woe, Is Me fanboy & Tyler Carter dick rider & I am damn proud of it! that's all I have to say about that lol.
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Original Woe is Me was the best Live, sounded so clean.
This era of post harcore music just hit different man, I can't explain it... I wish we could go back. I'm proud to own this record on vinyl TC has one of my favorite vocalist since Woe days. Michael Bohn never really got the credit he deserved neither he was a unit as a screamer.
It's weird that Tyler Carter left 10 days later
I really can’t tell if it was because he hated the music he made and wanted to go back to more melodic roots but Issues was just a less hardcore r&b band with meshuggah chugs
I miss this old woe is me:( the lyrics had so much more feeling! And such great voice talent! They sound amazing live!!!
Tyler wrote part of vengeance before he left and they took his part and turned into what he didn't want
This song just kicked way to much ass.. Back then they were real and just so good.. I miss this so much. Wish I could go to at least one of the shows with all original members.
fucking same man.
OMG Tylers voice is amazing.
Tyler Sounds PERFECT live.
They use to play vengeance as the intro to fame over demise?
Ya Qwaynza Maddox that's not vengeance that's just some intro they came up with
definetley an early version of vengeance
This is not vengeance whatsoever. Vengeance was written without/after Tyler carter basically slamming him for leaving the band. Listen to the lyrics, it’s their Vengance against him, get it?
so what they played was basically just the instrumental, if you listen to vengeance you'll hear the guitars play the same exact riff. music is written over a prolonged period. what happened was they probably wrote the instrumental or just that part of vengeance, just used it as an intro for fame over demise, and after tyler left which was VERY close to the time of this video, they finished the song and wrote lyrics which were against tyler
hope this helps :)
You need to be looking more in depth musically. Play vengeance please and replay this intro. It is not at all the same, just maybe a little similar. “I WILL LIVE FOREVERRR” & then bam vengeance starts with a breakdown. That entire breakdown drum track in the beginning/end of vengeance which is what you guys are referring to/are seeing the similarities from, is simply not this. Not the same, not related, maybe just a little bit coincidentally similar. While many breakdowns do sound similar, you need to be able to dissect the drum pattern so you know what’s exactly what. Give me one of your phone numbers I’ll send you a video of the differences
I agree with you one hundred fucking percent... Woe, Is Me would have been huge if they kept their sound...
Without a doubt. Fame > demise was on a whole new level. It was scary good
No one can touch Tyler
Yes, they backtracked the lead parts. They weren't able to find a lead guitarist before Warped. So they backtracked the lead and Kevin played his parts.
it's so funny seeing them live when they look all badass and stuff, then when I met them they were soo sweet ... especially Ben who was just so shy xd
@piercemydollface shuut up. Theyre amazing on stage AND in the studio ! Have you ever seen them live!?
Is that guest vocals from the screamer in I see stars? The dude in the jersey
Tyler Carter, one of the only actual good clean vocalist on warped
And Jonny Craig!
Vincent on the side of the stage!
They probably already had the song written and just used the beginning of it as an "intro" that would lead into Fame Over Demise.
Awesome high quality vid right here your camera is mint
Damnnnn I miss this. Fuck issues & the woe, is me that formed after Tyler left. ); wish they would go back
there so good live
Wow they sounded so tight
@MaficEffect a Nikon L120 :D
Very good video man! \m/
@MatthewBurditt1 @AlexalikesNutella bands always do this. Abandon all ships used to use the last breakdown of the song "Shake your AAS" as their intro.
oh btw tyler wrote part of vengeance :o they were writing while on tour :)
WRATH TO THE INDUSTRY!
@damissingframe ADTR didnt play till 6 something. WIM played at like 4:20
Yeah!!!!!
@MusicLoversLife yea the crowd was moving on the side of me, it was a small pit -_-
@Hardc0reAcoustic i think your forgetting Shayley from OM&M
AGREED!!!!!!! tyler can sing for real
wheres time sherrill?? :((
such a bangin video what kind of camera is this??
Is Vincent Bennet in the background?
Uh did they just back track lead guitar? I dont see tim sherrills replacement. :P lol it sucks that kevin hanson is the only one left. Haha and he's rythym guitar
lol the truth
How can people think hence is better live? He's not a bad singer but Tyler blows him away.
Tyler is really accurate live. I approve. haha!
i can see myself in the front! haha i was going crazy.
honestly i cant tell if tyler sounds better live or not :\ hes soooo good, im still mad hes not in the band anymore
Excision Intro!
fuck, i kinda miss this era.
@AlexalikesNutella i guess they made that into a song after Tyler left.
Completely off topic from Tyler leaving and the recording time but.. Did amusing else notice the chick in the trucker hat infront of the guy recording this..?
I'd pay anything for vocal lessons from Tyler.
I met Austin! :D
0:34 Vengeance ??? wait that song wasn't recorded until tyler left and they found hance
They already had that song recorded. They just never out lyrics over it until tyler left.
@rfthc408 its probably cause iwas the only one that uploaded a good video when Warped Tour started cause Las Cruces was the 4th date.
@piercemydollface Well have you ever even ACTUALLY seen them live?!?
Tyler helped write the song it just wasn't done until his departure.
@damissingframe haha if that was in stl i left adtr after hearing all the songs i wanted to hear and came to watch woe
Am I the only one who cracked up at Ben's head banging in the beginning of the video?
Woe, Is Me is not the same without Tyler Carter.:/ but i they still rock out pretty hard:D
@ 3:26 that guy behind Tyler is the guy who plays acoustic guitar in side to side for Tyler mind fuck!!! :O
could michael's jeans get any tighter
3:28 Was that guy sniffin his arm? O.o
One of the few days that they were a six-piece!
Only a better view.
@TheCamisado14 thats should be called the hardcore arm swing
@Hardc0reAcoustic WHAT ABOUT FUCKING SHAYLEY BOURGET FROM OF MICE & MEN?!
@ibarraai22 It suprised me since I live in wack Maryland but our crowd was prettty liveee.
Who is the dude in the basketball jersey? I don't think I recognize him.. lol but tyler is fucking amazing his cover of someone like you is better than adelle could ever be
Vincent from TAS is in the back XD
..where the fuck is the mosh pit?
good quailty huh lies i just watched it
Bassist at 2:35
whos the second screamer here, the guy with long hair? I cant place a name to him, its fucking annoying me.
Krystall Alice its Ben Ferris
That is Ben Ferris
0:21 What Ben doing? lol i like it
Fuck yeah! Michael Bohn fo life. ;)
Hance*
@ibarraai22 lol I'm gonna soooo start using that line! XD
Gotta love ben at 0:20 (:
But they still rock out pretty hard*
all i have to say is 37 seconds... did anyone notice that they sounded like KORN lol
@ibarraai22 someone who's mom didnt let them go to warped tour hahaha
@Hardc0reAcoustic ennnnnggg! WRONG! Jonny fucking Craig
I jam with austin all the time
that would be correct
The crowd was lame, they had such a small stage and they played at the same time as ADTR
fuck ! i was there too but i was late :(
1:50 dat hat....
@xaxsimplexescapex all of woe, is me crowds are lame due to all the fangirls who are in love with tyler carter
That intro is sexy
hey, he doesn't look like Draco Malfoy anymore. nice.
It sucked for me because WIM played on the smallest stage and at the same time as ADTR >.>
who the titty fuck disliked?! D:
lol DGK shirt is win
aren't those cleans beautiful...
My video has way less views and way better sound/view -____-
#Issues
This crowd is fucking dead
weak crowd?
Tyler lol
:'c
good video! No offense but your crowd was weakkk
That Cover wasint bad. But adele oviously is better than tyler. Is that even a question? Tyler is Amazing Live and in general. But he is in no form better than adele in her OWN song at that.
Adele is trash in my opinion. Don't like a single one of her songs. Tyler can out sing her any day. You're right. It isn't even a question. He did her song better than her & not that this should count towards who the better singer is but I lost all respect for her the moment she was asked during an interview on a talk show about if she was familiar with this kind of music. The interviewer was going on to say that they have made metal covers of her song. She made a stink face when asked the question, implying that she thinks this kind of music is trash & isn't real music, which pissed me the fuck off. A simple, "yes I am familiar with that genre of music" would have sufficed. This music is better than all others in my opinion & again, I do NOT like a single one of her songs nor do I care for her voice, her appearance, anything. In no way, shape or form, do I find her appealing. when she disrespected Metal, I wanted to punch her in her british fucking teeth. Now obviously, you think she is better than Tyler. You are entitled to your opinion & all but bro, just no. Tyler will always go down in history as the greatest singer, past, present & future in my book. Number[S] is tattooed on my arm & in my opinion will always be the best fucking album ever made in the history of ever. Yes, clearly I am an original Woe, Is Me fanboy & Tyler Carter dick rider & I am damn proud of it! that's all I have to say about that lol.
@piercemydollface Im a girl, hahaha
Geez guys... eat some meat or go to the gym or something..... haha