You guys need to make another park with updated dinosaurs so we can look back at it in about 150 years and see how inacurate we were at this point in time.
I happened to end up in Crystal Palace last year when visiting London with a friend. We sat in that park drinking beer and got locked in, because we did not realise there were actual gates and opening hours. That's not common in Sweden.
If you are referring to birds, they didn't know birds were dinosaurs. In fact, dinosaur means terrible lizard, so they got their ideas from modern lizards , which is why they look so lizard like there.
I made a list with all buildings that aren't on any lists. Luckily erasing something from it is a bit faster than adding new stuff, or it would be a hassle to keep it up.
Don't you have to erase something from it as soon as you add it and add it as soon as you erase it? I feel like speed would have no bearing on an infinite loop.
@@Mythraen Gotta just treat it as a convergent series and the problem resolves to 0.5 of each building not on any lists being added to this list. This allows each object in the set to self-satisfy its own infinite loop. At any given time 0.5 of each building on this list will be on a list and 0.5 will not be on a list.
I'm sure you get this all the time Tom, but I not only love the subjects you cover, I also really love the words you choose and the order you put them in.
not very strange at all! sciences are all very flexible, and the nature of science is the continuous change of our trying to understand the world. whenever i hear the words "scientific fact" i can't help but giggle because i too think about the impermanence of sciences as we know them (especially ife science! i think thats what makes it so exciting)
It's really quite interesting how much we can change our views of the sciences. However, there are always going to be people who try to support theories that shouldn't be around anymore...
Your channel is on of those rare reliable channels that don't have a single uninteresting or lacking video. Every single thing you upload is worth watching.
I have fond memories of the dinosaurs in Crystal Palace park as I was born just around the corner in Penge in the 1960s and was often taken to see them as a small child.
your understanding of dinosaurs was disproven years ago. Lizards are ectothermic (Cold blooded). Dinosaurs (including birds) are the only clad aside from mammals that are Endothermic (warm blooded). It is now generally accepted that the Tyranosaurs Rex and its relatives had feathers, along with many other "classic" dinosaurs. It's also accepted the T-rex's closest living relative is the chicken. Are you going to tell me a T-rex is not a true dinosaur?
"There is a list of buildings that have special protection under the law. Buildings on that list are called listed buildings because they are on the list of buildings."
I remember a few years back i compiled my own "7 Wonders of the World". And these plastic dinosaurs were on the list. I was born in Croydon and the 4 year old me bloody loved these. And i seem to remember some made noises. I just wonder if the rumours will come true about a Chinese zillionaire wanting to rebuild the Crystal Palace in all its glory.. That would be really really splendid. If not a little strange..
Hmmm I always thought they were some sort of plastic too. In fact I vaguely remember (from when I was a kid, probably nearly 30 years ago) one of them having a hole in it, and that definitely looked like broken plastic (and hollow inside)
@@EdwardMillen According to Wikipedia, the exteriors are clay, from what I skimmed. Bakelite, the precursor to plastic, was invented long after these were made.
They're brilliant. I visited them as a little boy. I love that they were preserved. They may not be accurate depictions of specific dinosaurs, but they're certainly dinosauresque in scale and appearance, and they're still a source of fascination and wonder.
Something about the old designs of Dinosaurs in books made them feel more mysterious and terrifying, they seem to have lost some of that with the more scientifically accurate models. Nowadays they just feel like big chickens instead of giant lizard monsters, but I guess that is for the best.
Wow, I remember going to that park at least twenty times when I was in primary school. Now I live far away, but I'm glad to see it mentioned on this channel!
One of my favourite things is the clip from the making of Walking with Dinosaurs where a paleontologist talks about how inaccurate they are, and then later they talk about all the things we now know are inaccurate from that show
There are some creationists that believe in evolution that believe that god created single cell organisms initially and then everything evolved from them, I used to work with a lady like that. It's very weird.
Yet, they still naively think they are believers of Christ, when in fact they made up an entirely new branch of religion without even knowing it. Funny, that? Cognitive dissonance is a wonderfully fascinating human flaw.
I thought creationism was invented as anti American propaganda to make them look stupid. I didn't think any modern country would put up with that sort of crap.
Me at the start: Here we go silly laws and burecratics again (I sort of guessed some of the stuff he was gonna say). Me at the end: Waoh thats actually a good point (even if Tom would be tottaly in the right to say he didnt make any points or claims). Thanks Tom.
A reality that few will admit is that every rule exists because someone thought that it was important. Hand-waving bureaucracy as a reason to ignore rules system is dangerous.
@@roguishpaladin Haha I concede a point to you sir. Am reminded how so me view philosophy and likewise subjects at uni as useless, but I think they do add value to our society.
+Tom Scott Gabrielle Brace Stevenson wrote a really good article on this: theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/england/london/articles/the-crystal-palace-dinosaurs-very-victorian-prehistory/
+Steve Brace A very good read :D I didn't know this place was even still open till this video, I definitely plan to visit. Just one thing, in the (conserving historic monuments) chapter it says "some dominate the vista visible from several feet away" in my head this is an oxymoron, as being visible from several feel would insinuate the item is small, I may be the only one to see it this way but it just stuck out to me
Keeping this location preserved seems like a wonderful thing. Is it open to the public to browse from where you are standing? I could find value in taking a class there to see how Dinosaurs were once thought to look like, compared to what we think of today. To not only teach how awesome Dinosaurs are but how the sciences work.
"In England, there is a list of buildings that have special protection under the law. Buildings on that list are called ... listed buildings. Because they’re on the list. Of buildings." I found this much funnier than it had any right to be.
I used to work (occasionally) at the railway station near here. Never got round to walking over to have a look at the dinos, now live 200 miles away and unlikely to get back anytime soon...
+Henry Brewster I really didn't want to go into the bureaucratic details of the system (particularly as it's different in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)!
It would be great if you went into more detail about these places. Maybe make 2 videos, one that's a TLDW version at 2 minutes and an extended version at 10 minutes? You're taking the time to go to all these interesting places. A 2 minute video seems so short for such an investment.
That would constitute materially changing the display and would not be allowed under legislation. However, you could put up a notice board or boards in front of the fencing around the display noting the history of the site and how the dinosaurs are inaccurate. Depending on whether the entire Park is listed and what grade, you may or may not be able to consider a temporary, semi-permanent or permanent display near the original display that is updated. NB: did some digging. The entire Park is Grade II* Listed. This is the second highest tier in England and only 5.5% of listed buildings are this grade. By comparison 92% are grade II and 2.5% are grade I. No new permanent displays are likely to go up in Crystal Palace Park any time soon short of restoring Crystal Palace (which some companies have expressed interest and submitted plans to do; most recently a Chinese developer).
+George Laidlaw I know it would classify as a change, I just ment it would be cool to see old and new renditions of them :) good idea about the signs though
I went there a few years ago. If I recall correctly a sign somewhere does mention that the statues are not accurate. But the whole display is tucked away in an obscure corner of the park, so not many people see it unless they specifically seek it out.
0:35 The subtle movements of the camera made me think the not-dino between the branches was moving for a second. 1:20 Those are just cows with scales... Some of these models were _really_ inaccurate.
Well new found fossils provide evidence for feathery dinosaurs, including a feathery and vibrantly colourful T-rexes. If anything it goes to show how little we know even now.
Not all the creatures in the Crystal Palace are actually supposed to be dinosaurs, specifically, despite being called the Crystal Palace dinosaurs. The creatures at 1:20 aren't supposed to be dinosaurs, but instead an anoplotherium herd. Anoplotherium is actually an extinct genus of mammal. The statues don't actually have scales, it seems to just be moss+the stony texture.
@@BonaparteBardithion there are. The how thing is now a semi-guided walk through time comparing modern scientific understanding to that of Richard Owen's time.
One of the buildings in my secondary school (in Dublin, Ireland) was a listed building and it was hoooooooooooribble. Cold, draughty, mould on the roof of most of the rooms, and every time a train went by I swear your could feel the building sway a little bit because it was so close to the tracks. There was even scaffolding put up around the outside in the last year or two that I was there for, just to make sure the whole thing didn't come down into crumbling dust and bricks killing any unfortunate girls or teachers in or near it. Most of the classrooms were still used in it, because it included the very old gym, a meditation room (best classes ever, especially during exam times) and the music room, and walking from any of the newer buildings into that one was like walking in and out of different decades!
While the history is interesting and important, I think they would also be important to preserve as art pieces as well, because they really are wonderful pieces of art.
There were replicas of the crystal palace dinosaurs in Porthcawl when I was little (long time, early eighties) but when I went back about 10 years ago the place where I thought they stood had been cleared and there is nothing left any more.
Live nearby to them and as a kid I always looked forward to going here and seeing them even though I couldn’t work out what species they were from my books other than water reptiles and stuff
I am consistently amazed at the quality of your videos. Plus all these really interesting things about the world that, frankly, would be hard to hear about almost anywhere else. Thank you!
That's interesting and all but omg the Crystal Palace, When Tom flashed a picture of it I couldn't believe it, I'd never heard of it before. After some searching, mostly sorting through some leather ball kicking people, I found what it was and the history of it, them. . Really interesting, both of them (the palaces not the sports team)
I remember last year there was a grade 2 listed plant in a grade 2 listed greenhouse. The plant started to grow because of its germination period but because they were both in the same grade they couldn't move the plant to save the greenhouse and you couldn't brake the top part of the greenhouse to save the plant
My friend has a small flat, it was listed, which meant he wasn't allowed to upgrade the internet because they'd need to drill through the walls or something for the cables. He moved out of that flat.
Good. Better to move than cause damage. There are plenty of ways he could have got a cable in though, maybe through an air brick or under a roof tile. Listed buildings officers are not unreasonable, they appreciate small, reversible changes are sometimes required.
Great video, not sure about the 200 year grade 1 listing though. Plenty of cottages and houses in rural areas (at least in the north of England, but likely throughout) are several hundred years old and completely unlisted. The one my parents live in is at least 350 years old, (makes insulating a pain because the walls are solid stone,) but it isn't listed because it's not architecturally significant - it looks like all the other equally old and unlisted buildings in the village.
For people who don't know what's so wrong about these "dinosaurs", the horned "dinosaur" was Iguanodon, they thought that famous thumb spike was it's horn and it walked on all fours. That "mosasaur" is actually an ichthyosaur, a dolphin like marine reptile that doesn't go on land and most likely has a dorsal fin, also the bony structures around its eyes and fins are supposed to be under the skin.
I always thought listed buildings were on some sort of list. Who knew it was a list of buildings?! the mind truly boggles :D I wonder if they'll come a time when structures in Minecraft become listed?
Fun fact: The dinosaur to the very right of Tom is facing away from the viewing area. That is intentional because it doesn't have a face due to not knowing what its head looked like when it was built.
Not true. It's Hylaeosaurus, and it does have a head and a face. Its not an accurate one, and afaik no skull has since been found for this chap either.
You guys need to make another park with updated dinosaurs so we can look back at it in about 150 years and see how inacurate we were at this point in time.
Feathers would require a lot of work.
They tried that like three times, but they keep getting loose and eating people.
+Joshua Pearce Four times...
+Joshua Pearce nice one :)
Jurassic Park?
I happened to end up in Crystal Palace last year when visiting London with a friend. We sat in that park drinking beer and got locked in, because we did not realise there were actual gates and opening hours. That's not common in Sweden.
plenty of holes in the fence on the east side (tramps and drunks go to drink at night)
Sounds like a jolly good time.
That is because during much of the year, sunlight isn't common is Sweden.
@@lohphat to be fair here in the UK it can get dark at like 4pm in the winter so it's not like sunlight is our bff either
Parks don't usually close in America either. It's a wired concept honestly.
At 1:26 there's footage of an actual dinosaur walking among the inaccurate fake ones.
Haha! Well done noticing!
I've just scrolled down to type this comment :D
This is not so much a joke as some might think!
Sid Grim
Which is one of the closest relatives of T-Rex you can find on earth today. Seriously not joking. Birds and dinosaurs are closely related.
Zardo Dhieldor You probably descend from amoebas. Does that make you an amoeba?
"They are called listed buildings because they are on the list... of buildings"
~ Tom Scott 2016
Yearbook quote.
How brilliantly named.
The floor is made of floor
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mojo jojo vibes
They're more like art sculptures now. Their value is different, but still just as valuable.
"These dinosaurs are over 150 years old," well youre not wrong
Surely 150 years ago they could just have had a look at the dinosaurs still roaming around?
If you are referring to birds, they didn't know birds were dinosaurs. In fact, dinosaur means terrible lizard, so they got their ideas from modern lizards , which is why they look so lizard like there.
Not sure if religious creatard, or a follower of Science that's fuckin' with us.
YourNansA Nonce : surely you actually do have sense of humour?
charlie hill surely you have a sense of humor
To all of you wonderful people in the replies, I think it's called a joke.
The best channel on TH-cam. Cheers for your hard work, Tom.
My man
Lookin' good
you definitely are the best Adam #WCPW
ADAM!
Blampied is better than you.
I made a list with all buildings that aren't on any lists.
Luckily erasing something from it is a bit faster than adding new stuff, or it would be a hassle to keep it up.
Don't you have to erase something from it as soon as you add it and add it as soon as you erase it?
I feel like speed would have no bearing on an infinite loop.
@@Mythraen Gotta just treat it as a convergent series and the problem resolves to 0.5 of each building not on any lists being added to this list. This allows each object in the set to self-satisfy its own infinite loop.
At any given time 0.5 of each building on this list will be on a list and 0.5 will not be on a list.
"Buildings on that list are called 'listed buildings' because they're on the list... of buildings"
-Tom Scott
I sometimes wish there's a very physical and permanent representation of past scientific theories, because past, discarded theories sure sounds fun.
You mean like bottles with phlogiston and aether?
And carefully balanced trays of phlegms and humours.
Yeah, it would be amusing if there were evolutionary tables of our beliefs about the world, just like there are about our evolution from zilch to us.
+Mat Broomfield Reading through medical discoveries on the times history pages is super cool
I'm surprised Out-Dated Theories isn't a degree from some fancy college.
You make incredible content.
Very high density, lots of awesome per second. Stuff most people wouldn't think of. Great job, as ever.
this was a short video full of....1 fact
I'm sure you get this all the time Tom, but I not only love the subjects you cover, I also really love the words you choose and the order you put them in.
It is strange to think of how what we say is fact now might be seen in 10 or 100 years
not very strange at all! sciences are all very flexible, and the nature of science is the continuous change of our trying to understand the world. whenever i hear the words "scientific fact" i can't help but giggle because i too think about the impermanence of sciences as we know them (especially ife science! i think thats what makes it so exciting)
It's really quite interesting how much we can change our views of the sciences. However, there are always going to be people who try to support theories that shouldn't be around anymore...
hare666 I agree but what is taught in schools is considered "fact" that may all change..
Your channel is on of those rare reliable channels that don't have a single uninteresting or lacking video. Every single thing you upload is worth watching.
I have fond memories of the dinosaurs in Crystal Palace park as I was born just around the corner in Penge in the 1960s and was often taken to see them as a small child.
well, there was one accurate dinosaur in this video.
the mighty mallard.
I don't get it.
Oh is it a train?
Birds are Dinosaurs.
your understanding of dinosaurs was disproven years ago.
Lizards are ectothermic (Cold blooded). Dinosaurs (including birds) are the only clad aside from mammals that are Endothermic (warm blooded).
It is now generally accepted that the Tyranosaurs Rex and its relatives had feathers, along with many other "classic" dinosaurs. It's also accepted the T-rex's closest living relative is the chicken. Are you going to tell me a T-rex is not a true dinosaur?
+metropod Being "generally accepted" doesn't mean it's true. The theory that dinosaurs were warm blooded is still that, a theory.
They SHOULD always stay that way, too. I think it's fascinating to see how our knowledge of the primordial world has advanced in just 150 years or so.
"There is a list of buildings that have special protection under the law. Buildings on that list are called listed buildings because they are on the list of buildings."
+Lord Darryll Duskwoody IV Same
***** But why did he say the "because they are on the list" part and then the "of buildings" at the end makes it even weirder
It's to point out the absurdity of what he was saying. But it's all true.
thats it, Im killing myself
Well, now we all want to know. Are you still around?
I remember a few years back i compiled my own "7 Wonders of the World". And these plastic dinosaurs were on the list.
I was born in Croydon and the 4 year old me bloody loved these. And i seem to remember some made noises.
I just wonder if the rumours will come true about a Chinese zillionaire wanting to rebuild the Crystal Palace in all its glory.. That would be really really splendid. If not a little strange..
Not plastic- since when did they have concrete 150 years ago? They are cast concrete.
Hmmm I always thought they were some sort of plastic too. In fact I vaguely remember (from when I was a kid, probably nearly 30 years ago) one of them having a hole in it, and that definitely looked like broken plastic (and hollow inside)
@@EdwardMillen According to Wikipedia, the exteriors are clay, from what I skimmed.
Bakelite, the precursor to plastic, was invented long after these were made.
Born and still live in Beckenham, I used to want ti swim the the water and stand next to them
I remember being really giddy and excited every time I went to crystal palace park to see the dinosaurs, thanks for bringing back a few memories.
there models of Iguanodons aren't they? As a kid I read the story of how wrong scientist were about them.
They're brilliant. I visited them as a little boy. I love that they were preserved. They may not be accurate depictions of specific dinosaurs, but they're certainly dinosauresque in scale and appearance, and they're still a source of fascination and wonder.
This is fantastic. I am so glad that something from the Crystal Palace survives.
THANK YOU for pointing out that the history of science is just as important as science itself.
Something about the old designs of Dinosaurs in books made them feel more mysterious and terrifying, they seem to have lost some of that with the more scientifically accurate models. Nowadays they just feel like big chickens instead of giant lizard monsters, but I guess that is for the best.
Awesome as always, Tom :)
Wow, I remember going to that park at least twenty times when I was in primary school. Now I live far away, but I'm glad to see it mentioned on this channel!
Ironically there is no crystal palace (anymore).
well they still in premier league, thats just plain rude to call em that.
1:39 PLUS IT JUST LOOKS COOL
One of my favourite things is the clip from the making of Walking with Dinosaurs where a paleontologist talks about how inaccurate they are, and then later they talk about all the things we now know are inaccurate from that show
It's incredible how prevalent creationism is in the U.S.A whilst in the U.K has model dinosaurs so old, they are preserved as artefacts.
The UK is also significantly older than the USA...so that also has something to do with it
There are some creationists that believe in evolution that believe that god created single cell organisms initially and then everything evolved from them, I used to work with a lady like that. It's very weird.
Yet, they still naively think they are believers of Christ, when in fact they made up an entirely new branch of religion without even knowing it. Funny, that? Cognitive dissonance is a wonderfully fascinating human flaw.
That's called agnostic.
I thought creationism was invented as anti American propaganda to make them look stupid. I didn't think any modern country would put up with that sort of crap.
Fantastic video. Short, yet filled with so much information. Well done!
This is an exceptional channel
Bird at 1:28: casually walking and offended by the statues
I want a movie with those Dinosaurs in it. Those exact models/designs back there need to be on film somehow.
It’s great looking at comments from 3 years ago and seeing + instead of @
Me at the start: Here we go silly laws and burecratics again (I sort of guessed some of the stuff he was gonna say).
Me at the end: Waoh thats actually a good point (even if Tom would be tottaly in the right to say he didnt make any points or claims). Thanks Tom.
The red shirt saves the day again.
A reality that few will admit is that every rule exists because someone thought that it was important. Hand-waving bureaucracy as a reason to ignore rules system is dangerous.
@@roguishpaladin Haha I concede a point to you sir. Am reminded how so me view philosophy and likewise subjects at uni as useless, but I think they do add value to our society.
Imagine after spending decades of your life in scientific research only for your work to be a historical testament to how wrong we were.
The scientist would understand that this is the natural progression of scientific discovery
@@andersonrobotics5608 ...and they would still be dissapointed, as scientists are human too.
Who else wanted to see that bird squeeze through that fence? 1:27
The buildings on that list are called Listed Buildings because they are on the list of buildings.
Damn Tom i never understood why until now. Thanks!
+Tom Scott Gabrielle Brace Stevenson wrote a really good article on this:
theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/england/london/articles/the-crystal-palace-dinosaurs-very-victorian-prehistory/
Declaration of interest: She's my daughter.
I detect more than interest, theres positive whiffs of pride there dad!
+Steve Brace A very good read :D I didn't know this place was even still open till this video, I definitely plan to visit.
Just one thing, in the (conserving historic monuments) chapter it says "some dominate the vista visible from several feet away" in my head this is an oxymoron, as being visible from several feel would insinuate the item is small, I may be the only one to see it this way but it just stuck out to me
+plantpot shoes I didn't know it existed until the kid wrote that article!
+plantpot shoes She actually said yards, not feet, but I see what you mean... You'd have to ask her about that :)
"Things you might not know" and "Amazing places" needs to happen more often....
Keeping this location preserved seems like a wonderful thing. Is it open to the public to browse from where you are standing? I could find value in taking a class there to see how Dinosaurs were once thought to look like, compared to what we think of today. To not only teach how awesome Dinosaurs are but how the sciences work.
Yes it is, its a public park.
I love how short and to the point this video is.
0:32 Advanced comedy. I lost it!
Inaccurate or not, doesn't matter. These sculptures are timeless masterpieces
"In England, there is a list of buildings that have special protection under the law. Buildings on that list are called ... listed buildings. Because they’re on the list. Of buildings." I found this much funnier than it had any right to be.
Accurate and life-like dinosaur display at 1:27.
1:26 an accurate dinosaur walks into frame
I used to work (occasionally) at the railway station near here. Never got round to walking over to have a look at the dinos, now live 200 miles away and unlikely to get back anytime soon...
What about grade II*?
+Henry Brewster I really didn't want to go into the bureaucratic details of the system (particularly as it's different in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)!
+Tom Scott you should totally go into it, it sounds pretty interesting. isn't Abbey Road Studios on the list?
Abbey Road Studio is Grade II, as is the famous zebra crossing outside it. you can search the list here - historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/
The video is short enough to include such interesting details(not that its bad being this short, but still... would be nice)
It would be great if you went into more detail about these places. Maybe make 2 videos, one that's a TLDW version at 2 minutes and an extended version at 10 minutes? You're taking the time to go to all these interesting places. A 2 minute video seems so short for such an investment.
Wasn't expecting to have a *Los Campesinos!* song explained to me in a Tom Scott video, but here we are.
In Boston, MA, USA, the Museum of Science has a '1960s accurate' T-Rex statue in front of it. They have a '2000s accurate' statue inside the museum.
We have Heritage Listed Buildings in Australia. :)
It would be cool if they put more accurate versions of them next to them/near to reflect the changes in understanding
That would constitute materially changing the display and would not be allowed under legislation. However, you could put up a notice board or boards in front of the fencing around the display noting the history of the site and how the dinosaurs are inaccurate. Depending on whether the entire Park is listed and what grade, you may or may not be able to consider a temporary, semi-permanent or permanent display near the original display that is updated.
NB: did some digging. The entire Park is Grade II* Listed. This is the second highest tier in England and only 5.5% of listed buildings are this grade. By comparison 92% are grade II and 2.5% are grade I. No new permanent displays are likely to go up in Crystal Palace Park any time soon short of restoring Crystal Palace (which some companies have expressed interest and submitted plans to do; most recently a Chinese developer).
+George Laidlaw I know it would classify as a change, I just ment it would be cool to see old and new renditions of them :)
good idea about the signs though
I went there a few years ago. If I recall correctly a sign somewhere does mention that the statues are not accurate. But the whole display is tucked away in an obscure corner of the park, so not many people see it unless they specifically seek it out.
The statues would change constantly then.
Watched the Null island video... Was nice and your style too...
I go to this park all the time and I never knew that! But it's kind of obvious now that you've mentioned it. Cool video
Love it! It's like a museum of a museum! I approve!
1:03 a thing starts floating in the water. i dunno why i pointed it out
Great video Tom.
0:35 The subtle movements of the camera made me think the not-dino between the branches was moving for a second.
1:20 Those are just cows with scales... Some of these models were _really_ inaccurate.
Well new found fossils provide evidence for feathery dinosaurs, including a feathery and vibrantly colourful T-rexes.
If anything it goes to show how little we know even now.
Not all the creatures in the Crystal Palace are actually supposed to be dinosaurs, specifically, despite being called the Crystal Palace dinosaurs. The creatures at 1:20 aren't supposed to be dinosaurs, but instead an anoplotherium herd. Anoplotherium is actually an extinct genus of mammal. The statues don't actually have scales, it seems to just be moss+the stony texture.
great video. you are a talented writer tom
I still can't believe they pulled down the original Crystal Palace. Absolutely and utterly bewildering.
They didn’t purposefully pull it down - It burnt down, literally self destructed. It would be a heath and safety hazard
Somebody should make a 2D pr 3D illustrated mockup of all the dinosaurs in the same places but accurate for comparison purposes.
That would actually be really cool.
They do have signage with drawings reflecting current knowledge, and discussion of how depictions change as we learn more.
I wonder if they could just put a new, accurate model of a dinosaur near these as a comparison or if their proximity also can't be changed
Was wondering the whole time if there's an educational plaque nearby.
@@BonaparteBardithion there are. The how thing is now a semi-guided walk through time comparing modern scientific understanding to that of Richard Owen's time.
One of the buildings in my secondary school (in Dublin, Ireland) was a listed building and it was hoooooooooooribble. Cold, draughty, mould on the roof of most of the rooms, and every time a train went by I swear your could feel the building sway a little bit because it was so close to the tracks. There was even scaffolding put up around the outside in the last year or two that I was there for, just to make sure the whole thing didn't come down into crumbling dust and bricks killing any unfortunate girls or teachers in or near it. Most of the classrooms were still used in it, because it included the very old gym, a meditation room (best classes ever, especially during exam times) and the music room, and walking from any of the newer buildings into that one was like walking in and out of different decades!
I don't care if they are inaccurate, they are still magnificent!
While the history is interesting and important, I think they would also be important to preserve as art pieces as well, because they really are wonderful pieces of art.
I love it. Thanks for sharing!
For a moment, I thought you were going to make fun of it, which would have been OK, I guess. This turned out much much better.
One of my earliest memories is visiting these dinos.
There were replicas of the crystal palace dinosaurs in Porthcawl when I was little (long time, early eighties) but when I went back about 10 years ago the place where I thought they stood had been cleared and there is nothing left any more.
Great video as usual
finally someone classified dinosaur sculptures as buildings. wonder why it took us so long to notice the obvious.
Thank you for a beautifully explained reminder that we humans are still constantly learning.
Live nearby to them and as a kid I always looked forward to going here and seeing them even though I couldn’t work out what species they were from my books other than water reptiles and stuff
The UK should get Chris Jericho to deliver historic building designation notices for them.
"You just made The List!"
I am consistently amazed at the quality of your videos. Plus all these really interesting things about the world that, frankly, would be hard to hear about almost anywhere else. Thank you!
Went there on a school trip which must have been about 40 years ago, and in my mind they were then more colorful - acid rain?
They're usually green, it looks like the paint has faded a bit
That's interesting and all but omg the Crystal Palace, When Tom flashed a picture of it I couldn't believe it, I'd never heard of it before. After some searching, mostly sorting through some leather ball kicking people, I found what it was and the history of it, them. . Really interesting, both of them (the palaces not the sports team)
Just finished a class called Dinosaurs. Had to read about this exhibit, and it was mentioned in *several* lectures. Funny that.
Don't worry, I imagine all dinosaur statues over 10 years old are full of inaccuracies by modern standards, such as not showing feathers
I remember last year there was a grade 2 listed plant in a grade 2 listed greenhouse. The plant started to grow because of its germination period but because they were both in the same grade they couldn't move the plant to save the greenhouse and you couldn't brake the top part of the greenhouse to save the plant
I wish Tom would narrate audiobooks!
I've always wanted to go see these
Awesome episode
My friend has a small flat, it was listed, which meant he wasn't allowed to upgrade the internet because they'd need to drill through the walls or something for the cables. He moved out of that flat.
Good. Better to move than cause damage. There are plenty of ways he could have got a cable in though, maybe through an air brick or under a roof tile. Listed buildings officers are not unreasonable, they appreciate small, reversible changes are sometimes required.
I was quite surprised when I tapped the Null Island annotation on my iPhone and it brought me to the video!
Incorrect dinosaur statues... YOU JUST MADE THE LIST
of buildings.
Great video, not sure about the 200 year grade 1 listing though. Plenty of cottages and houses in rural areas (at least in the north of England, but likely throughout) are several hundred years old and completely unlisted. The one my parents live in is at least 350 years old, (makes insulating a pain because the walls are solid stone,) but it isn't listed because it's not architecturally significant - it looks like all the other equally old and unlisted buildings in the village.
For people who don't know what's so wrong about these "dinosaurs", the horned "dinosaur" was Iguanodon, they thought that famous thumb spike was it's horn and it walked on all fours.
That "mosasaur" is actually an ichthyosaur, a dolphin like marine reptile that doesn't go on land and most likely has a dorsal fin, also the bony structures around its eyes and fins are supposed to be under the skin.
Anyone from Atlantic Canada remember Crystal Palace in Moncton which is now a bass pro shop?
I always thought listed buildings were on some sort of list. Who knew it was a list of buildings?! the mind truly boggles :D
I wonder if they'll come a time when structures in Minecraft become listed?
Most of my school is listed. It was founded in 1893, but one of the buildings was built in the 18th century.
Fun fact: The dinosaur to the very right of Tom is facing away from the viewing area. That is intentional because it doesn't have a face due to not knowing what its head looked like when it was built.
Not true. It's Hylaeosaurus, and it does have a head and a face. Its not an accurate one, and afaik no skull has since been found for this chap either.
I bet that's how Jurassic World tried to explain their featherless giant _Velociraptor._
You can come to Kentucky to see recently constructed inaccurate animatronic dinosaurs that are being ridden by animatronic people.
0:40 thanks Tom
It's England, they could have asked the Queen what dinosaurs actually looked like.