It Cost £10,000 To Fix My 'Cheap' 911!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Well it's fair to say I didn't see this coming! When buying my 911 40th Anniversary, I knew it needed some work, but once we started to peel back the layers and do all the work on the car I wanted to do, costs started to climb.
Huge thanks to Weissach UK for their help along the way. If you have any Porsche servicing needs, get in touch with them and make sure you told them I sent you:
www.weissachuk.com/ - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Tom just smashed it, brilliant to listen to, super interesting.
Glad you found him as great as I have
@@seenthroughglass Definitely, I've got a lot of respect for how you've transformed your channel/filming/etc over the last two years. It would be great to get together at some point next year and produce something with our cars!
@@GeeMilner Need to make a Seen Through Glass Dream Build happen.
there are lots of guys beeing into mtb aswell as porsches so you two would fit perfekt @SeenThroughGlass
Tom seems to be a natural in front of the camera and can really make the mundane interesting. Definitely have him on screen for your 996 work!
Now you can understand why I used them!
Really great voice as well!
Steady on Hoovie
Lol
@@seenthroughglass hehe. It’s great content 👍🏻
Remember Apollo 911 and the LS3 swap? Classic Hoovie and Car Wizard.
Wasnt that a huge fuck up?
If I had a Porsche, I’d take it to this guy - really natural
Glad everyone is understanding why I chose them
I swear I can hear Tony laughing really hard right now!
Haha you can only imagine the Whatsapp messages he's been sending me all week
@@seenthroughglass Tony is gonna be like "I'll give you a tenner for that".
but thanks for this content sam, love it. when is the Abarth's turn?
I swear I can hear the £50 notes being burnt
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have been thinking about tony's reaction all the time ✌🏼🤣
Great public information film. Now we know where NOT to go and be fleeced by a salesman disguised as a mechanic........
Love that guy! Seems so knowledgeable and very good in front of the camera :)
Totally!
one of the most expensive phrases in the auto repair world "while we're at it...."
Very much on board for Tom on the podcast!
Will set it up!
It would be great to get a Porsche podcast with the man from the garage
He's probably on in yacht in Portafino
You know what they say: a cheap Porsche is the most expensive car
Haha that is what I'm learning
They are great cars but there's an awful lot of 'badge' going on with them.
please sell it...it's like our Mustang LX stateside....a blivet, a blight an eyesore...disappointment to its mother...
@C J B literally nothing is more expensive than an aging gt-r. So i call Bullshit.
Parts are cheap and they are easy to work on... just do it yourself.
Most of the items can be seen as normal service items for a 18 year old car. Just show me an 18yr old car that doesn’t need brakes, hoses, ball joints exhaust etc, if you do it just means they have been done already.
All those saying money pit and get Jap... are sitting in their mums lounge typing before doing their home work. They have never owned or have a clue about cars.
Beautiful Car, Sam. I hope this 996 gives you many adventures that we, the viewers, can come along and enjoy them too.
I hope so too!
@@seenthroughglass with the EU denying us the freedom to travel, perhaps you could do a Tour Vlog of Britain. Show off the beautiful driving roads and places this Island has to offer. 🇬🇧👍
Agree with the person who said get him on the podcast, I think that's a good shout. Will help balance out Tony's hatred of anything that hasn't just left the factory ten minutes ago. 😀
I think you’ve done exactly the right thing, (given the age of the car). There’s a big safety aspect involved, when fully exploiting the performance, of a fast car! Keep up the good work, very informative!
Thanks bud!
17:18 - Such a great, anxious sentiment I know so well.. When I first purchased my 40 Jahre back in June, after years of always being "1 day late" locating the right one, I did a similar baseline major service with many of the same points you did... Refused to REALLY drive it until after my local Porsche specialist was able to complete the work. I was so excited for that first drive once I picked it up... And it did not disappoint. Such connection with the car. I've owned as well as driven Porsches covering the gamut over the years, but the 40 Jahre is the happy medium I had been searching for all along. Us 40 Anniversary owners are really enjoying your spotlight series of a true hidden-gem underdog. You're truly honoring one of Porsche's greats!
Well deserved, Tom. From seeing you start this business down the road from me to this great break, top man.
Thanks dude
Would really like to hear him on the podcast.
For spending £10,000 everyone sounds relatively calm, even relaxed. 🤑
I'm a Porsche enthusiast. Owned two - a 1962 356b super 90 and a 1980, 911targa, in another life when I was cat. Regret ever selling them. Your video was interesting, informative and really enhanced with Tom's contribution, thank you.
And now you have a proper 911!😉😍
So excited for adventures in 2021
@@seenthroughglass Oh yes and now you really have two absolutely gorgeous cars!
Really loved hearing about the technical details of this car. Having gone through some of this myself, I was smiling at the list. Congrats on the car and I look forward to what's ahead with it!
Tom makes boring stuff quite exciting
Ha, he's an on camera natural!
Superb video Sam! Thanks for just letting Tom speak in detail. It gives a very good insight into what is involved in the maintenance aspects of owning such a car.
Hello from New York Sam ! Love your channel. Tom is very knowledgeable and was spot on, keep up the good work, Cheers!
Awesome video, good shout on bringing that gentlemen into the Podcast. I would listen to him for days.
Fantastic video. Enjoyed the content. You are fortunate to have such a cool/knowledgeable technician. I purchased mine new in the summer of ‘04. I recall how special the seats were; unique color and perforation. The wheels were unique too with a unique paint/patina. The Turbo side sills and front fascia were unique to the car too, not to mention the X51? engine performance enhancements. What a car! Traded it in on a competitor a few years later. Regretted it. It was a significant improvement over my previously new ‘99 996. Kept the luggage set & the wallet. I use the wallet today... My first mod was a muffler bypass. It was mega loud. Can’t wait to hear the Dansk. This car deserves more recognition! The 50 Year Anniversary always gets significantly more admiration & recognition... GL & enjoy! Cheers, B
This was the most sensible way forward on this project. You will end up with what is considered one of the sweetest cars to drive in the whole catalog of Porsches. Great Video.
So much for full Porsche service history🤦🏽♂️Did it just have an oil change and the book stamped? That’s a lot of deferred maintenance 😱
Tom looks after a couple of cars for me which are both daily drivers, his service levels are second to none, and he always always always spends time with me working out the best way to address any work to be done. I cannot recommend him highly enough!
Excellent video, and what a great explanation by a knowledgeable technician.
Your unique approach to car content really is enjoyable. Seeing these modern classics 360 Modena & 911 being taken care of, improved & used is so interesting & it makes me aspire to do the same at some point in the next 5 years or so. These are the cars I was dreaming about in my teenage years, I hope we'll be able to enjoy them for a long time still (because regulations, petrol ban & whatnot make it uncertain) and given how modern sportscars are becoming too big & too fast.
These cars just make me so much more excited and passionate than so many modern ones. Yes they have costs associated and need looking after but thats part of the experience!
Very informative and interesting video to watch, thanks Tom being very good in front of the camera. True professional.
Cracking, informative video Sam. Tom certainly knows his stuff. Keep up the great work.
Just wanted to say i started listening to your podcast last week and i absolutely love it! never was a podcast fan but yours just is so addicting, i hope youre gonna talk more about this car and the plans on the podcast :)
Sam Moore’s podcast is great btw. And the Car throttle one aswell
Wow, thank you!
Great, honest assessment of the situation. No artificial panic making and no playing down where stuff needs to be done. These guys (I like the name...) seem to know what they are doing. Please make this a mini series, where you let them do things, and report on the results (breaks, for example)
I plan to get my first Porsche (a 996) alongside my upcoming Audi e-tron S Sportback. These videos are an immense help for me trying to understand what I'm about to purchase. Been following you since the TT-S days; You never disappoint!!
Wicked! That was the hope / idea. I really do recommend speaking to Weissach UK (or a local specialist) for advice when you start finding cars. SO much to understand about these cars
Great video - Tom was excellent! Love the channel. I've got a 991.2 and am looking for the 2nd 911 ... My thoughts are heading towards a 993 ... we'll see!
Seems that these guys are Porsche specialists, with that in mind i'm sure it was in great hands.. but can understand your feelings on the bill. Tom knows his stuff, these guys are the VF of Porsche to you now, going over everything and improving where needed. (Like the braided brake hoses) Love the honesty on here Sam, always documenting the ups and downs of owning these cars, makes for great videos!
A really fabulous video. Rarely does someone sell a car privately that is 110% serviced and ready to go. Most are selling to avoid the bills ahead ! But at least you know the work has been done and you have peace of mind and lots of fun miles ahead.
Tom put his knowledge across in a easy to understand and succinct way, very good orator that would be super interesting on your podcast. If I was in the market for a cheap 996, he would definitely be my first port of this call afterwards, and seeing what you can buy them for, I’d have no problem giving him £10-£15 after, knowing that it’d be properly sorted
Excellent video, love the detail. And such a lovely car. Looking forward to seeing it back together.
This guy is very good, knows his stuff inside and out.
Really enjoyable video Sam, more of these mechanical focused ones please. Weissach seem like a good find in the world of 'specialists'.
Cheers.
Great bloke, honest about what did and didn't need to be done. If I had a Porsche, I'd be using him to service it. But I don't, I have a Renault, which is why I watch your channel!
Keep it up Sam.
What a fantastic talk through/presentation. really enjoyed that
Great videos Sam, new to your youtube channel and looking forward to seeing more on your 40th Anniversary. Great cars, drove one last year but in the end didn't pull the trigger on it. The search continues...
Fellow 40th Anniversary owner here. If it makes you feel any better I too have spent over £10k getting mine up to spec! Totally worth it though and very satisfying. I too have the Dansk sports silencers and think they sound great. Enjoy driving the car Sam! :-)
Awesome to hear! And reassuring too haha
Very good insight into how it is to own a 16yr old Porsche! Very good guy at the garage, like to see him on podcast or the channel again!
My 'cheap' 993 C2 also set me back a chunk of change to get fully sorted and modernized, even more than this. Zero regrets though. Great video!
Excellent presentation by Tom, well done on the video! And yes to a podcast with Tom talking through his experience with Porsche, good and bad.
Also, following this video, I'd strongly consider using Weissach UK should my 997 need serious work.👍
This guy is a natural. Really good communicator.
Tom shot his shot reaching out and it was well worth it. Win-win for both of you, great fellow!
Very interesting, great video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Good video and very enjoyable to listen to. The shop guy was very informative and explained things very well. I appreciate the information.
.....and yes, it's easy to get a surprise bill when you add just a little here....just a little there. I paid $18,000 USD for the clutch change on my Murcielago Roadster because....while we're in there lol
as soon as I read the title of the video I head Tony's voice saying "I told you so". Very informative video.
Great episode..... it says a lot when 1. They reach out to you with free, friendly information and 2. When they mention their a fan of your channel....great decision to work together, you guys are a great fit !!!
Super happy to have them on board !
Still a 10k bill
@@jamesg1769 every used performance car has that bill, what matters is "who" will do that work and these guys seem on the up-n-up. ...
And the end of this you’ll have a rock solid car to enjoy. You’re not having to trust that the previous owner did all the necessary jobs, now you know what’s done and it’s done right. This crew at Weissach UK seem to know their stuff, behind that they also seem passionate about it.
Cheers Sam! Love to see you and refreshed 911 on the Nürburgring in 2021 :)
Haha not sure that's gonna happen but I will happily drive it there and watch other people doing laps
@@seenthroughglass As I live just a few minutes away from the Ring I´ll happily come along with my Brewster-green 991 and watch the others destroying their cars on track as well. I simply had to save the money for my Porsche, so I prefer driving it on the roads around the Ring instead of sharing the space with tons of lunatics on the racetrack, including motorbikes (which are the worst if you ask me).
One of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time. Especially since a 996 is on my list.
I bought one in July absolutely love it
Tom is such a nice guy, definitely need to do more with him 👍🏼
For the naysayers here...I have three BMWs, an F30, an e37, and an E89, all out of warranty. I do my own wrenching. If you want to drive a fine, rewarding automobile, it can be expensive. If I drove a Nissan or Honda or Toyota, it’d be much cheaper. And I’d feel dead inside. I’m thrilled to see the rejuvenation of this fine Porsche. It will bring joy.
Love the car Sam ..... Look after it and it will look after you ..... Best car TH-camr by a country mile .... You genuinely love your cars
Rally interesting to hear this stuff from a Porsche specialist, hope to hear more in the Podcast. As a future possible Porsche owner lots of things to bear in mind if getting a cheaper Porsche.
Hi Sam, great video, lovely car, looking forward to getting my one sometime soon. I have been researching them for a few years now and I know there's an awful lot of bad press on the Internet, but I'm still not put off. Having been a motorcycle mechanic previously, I love finding out the reasons behind the problems that the 996 / 997.1 engines suffered from. One of the main one's (there are a few) is over heating of cylinder bank 2, with cylinder 6 being the worst affected. Long story short, one of the ways to try and minimise bore scoring, is to fit a cooler running thermostat.
Also if you want to read up on it from one of the country's leading authorities on porsche engine building, Hartech Engineering.
Just do a Google search for Hartech pdf. And download the Hartech engine rebuilds (interim) .
Quite a long read, but very informative. Hope this helps and enjoy your 996 👍
That was nice quality content again! Great and very detailed Video!
Congrats on the New/Old Porsche! We love the Porsche Content!
Good review. I'd be quite happy paying that bill and knowing that these cars are very likely to appreciate in value, and if so you'd get that money back in no time if you decide to sell in the future.
I’ve just been doing the same things to my 996 C4S. Brake lines, RMS/IMS and clutch, suspension arms all round. It was expensive but it was so worth it... I’ve now got a car that feels like new.
Looking forward to Tom and the team at Weissach UK sorting out mine, maybe we should do another before, during and after Vlog?👍🏻
My 996 had pretty much the same list of faults. I'm slowly getting round to fixing all the little things after doing the main issues. It sort of fun, in a stupidly expensive way. :-) Look forward to more updates
Blimey Sam, chin up and carry on mate. I just bought a 996. I think they are they are just great. I have a similar inspection booked in for Friday, think I need a drink now, lol. Keep up the quality vids 👌
it will make the car a lot nicer to drive having those parts replaced, but the piece of mind itself will make it more enjoyable. I love the 40th anniversary car. wish i could afford one. I'm glad you're taking the time to set it up well before driving it around. thanks for sharing. edit to say I agree with the others that Tom is quite interesting and easy to listen to.
That's the plan!
Good video. Well thought out and presented. Thank you. It would be interesting to see a comparison of an Official Porsche Centre operating the Porsche Classic scheme versus an Independent Specialist in regard to inspection list and proposed cost for the job. For me buying a complete car ready to go from a recognised dealer in these cars may be the best route. Quite right to get everything done on yours and fingers crossed the car came to you at a good price. Great choice of car. Wishing you many miles of happy motoring.
Just did all the above to my wife’s 2002 3.6 996 c4 cabriolet, well worth doing , amazing car
Brilliant vid. I've got an early 99 car (1st production month for USA 996s), so I love any content on these "unloved" 911s.
Best one to get, double row IMS bearing and different cylinder bore coating means much less chance of bore scoring.
Great vids & you tell it as it is - no nonesense have a great New Year!
Sam, also check the following: Water pump, engine mounts, AOS, air box filter, shocks and struts, coolant tank update to stronger plastic, serpentine belt, thermostat. Best of luck, reach out if you have any questions.
Is this the 911 anniversary that I saw advertised at Sarah Cox Cars a few months ago? I took a look at this and was lamenting not purchasing but perhaps my pockets wouldn't have done it justice considering the repairs - massive respect to you for keeping this car beautiful and sound, and doing the work needed.
Nah the car wasn’t advertised anywhere. Was sourced privately through a few connections
Been Through Cash. Great vid Sam. I too thought Tom was great. You now have a sorted 360 and a sorted 911. I'll write that again. You now have a sorted 360 and a sorted 911. Have your left hand give your right hand a high five.
Positive: Worth noting that if you took apart any 16-20yr old car and looked to replace parts in this way. You'd run up a list at least this long on (name your favourite dull 'my cars never needed anything but an mot' reliable car). This is the kind of work people do because these cars are worth keeping on the road another 20 yrs. Hats off to you for saving this one well done.
Negative: Very sorry to hear about your bore scoring. I've personally bore scoped three M96 engines for myself/friends, and by fluke they make useful data points, a 60k mile car (3.6ltr) a 124k mile example (3.6ltr) and a 181k mile example (3.4ltr). The 181k mile car was the only car with any visible marking and probably similar to yours, they were only very faint lines (cyl 6) in the direction of piston travel. I'm convinced from my own experience that this is due to history and maintenance more than anything to do with age, use or mileage related wear.
These cars tend to be used infrequently and can go 4-5 years without an oil change even with a full history (on mileage). Oil is hydroscopic 'attracts and absorbs water' and water in the oil means that it cannot support high loads without the oil film breaking down and letting metal on metal contact occur. Changing oil on time as well as mileage is critical to look for in a car's history if you want to guarantee a healthy engine.
Secondly, the cooling circuits are by their nature longer, more complex and further from the warmth of the engine than on most cars (opposite end to the engine). This means that they are more prone to corrosion and leaks. Running a car with a leaky cooling system means the coolant isn't pressurised and can boil at a lower temperature. This means in the hottest parts of the engine (like around cylinder 6 where it exits) it can locally boil and get air bubbles, which cause hot spots/overheating. Very bad for an engine.
Summary: I believe that the M96/M97 (near identical engine) in the 996/997 cars is a tough mother of an engine. I drove my high milage 996 like it was stolen daily and took it to track/on tour without even a hint of concern, overheating or trouble. I highly suspect that now these cars are getting older and garages/owners are getting wiser to how to maintain the water cooled cars, the ones that are left, particularly ones looked after as you are with this car, will prove to be very reliable cars in the long run. They're not afraid of hard work or proper use, they'll out lap your favourite Japanese car on any track day. They only die of neglect and ignorance.
Brilliant video- if I had a Porsche I would definitely entrust it to the guys at Weissach UK who are clearly Porsche fanatics rather than a main dealer who just “goes through the motions” then stamps the book!
After hearing his assessment, it looks like it is a good find to me. Enjoy the new 911 !!
Thanks mate. Can’t wait to put some miles on it
Well done you are responsible and doing right, u gonna enjoy it later :)
The car is going to be running so well! 👍🏼
Great vid very informative & interesting keep us updated please good luck..
This 911 makes me want a 996 so bad! Literally watching your videos on this car one day is going to get me into trouble 👀
Mechanic at their best! This guy should be your technical host.
With the reliability and cost I'm blown away that anyone would buy a Porsche that isn't covered by warranty .
I bought a 2005 Boxster a few years ago, took it to a specialist, came back with 2 pages of issues... so yours doesn't seem so bad!
Didn't have a problem with my IMS in over 2 years of everyday driving. I wish the same could be said of the A.O separator which had 2 in no time at all. Regarding the exhaust I had a Dansk Sports fitted which sounded so much better than the OEM part. Enjoy fella. Yours is only going 1 way value wise..👍👍
Excellent video! Very informative. That 996 Anniversary looks so clean too.
But I would have expected a 911 with full Porsche service history to be flawless mechanically. Doesn't seem worth the cost to maintain the dealer service history when they manage to miss all the stuff on inspection.
Natural in front of the camera this guy, nice video!
Going through similar with my 996 C2 at the moment. Great mechanics take the stress out of it.
What a great guy Tom is, steeped in Porsche Knowledge....also, if I'm not mistaken, what sounds quite like a Potteries accent. (I was brought up there)
thanks for your Video, would be interesting to hear total parts cost vs labour cost if you would be willing to share?
Super interesting video for anyone looking into buying 996!
You might need an alignment doing after all that suspension work! :D My 40 Jahre was transformed after a proper Hunter 4 wheel job.
Often when these performance cars become affordable, they are bought by new owners who can afford to buy them but not properly fix or run them. I was in this situation with a 2006 Audi S4 a few years ago. Buying it was no issue, but afterwards I racked up repair bills of £3k for stuff ignored by the previous owner. I learnt that although I'd bought an £8k car, actually I was buying an £11k car! At Sam's level it's a £35k car which is actually a £45k car. Still, far more original and nicer choice than other YT'ers out there. He has excellent motoring taste.
Tony laughing his ass off right now
Great car. It’s lucky you found it.😅... I’ve bought, 996, M3, minis in the past... same thing. the issue is usually past owners who either don’t care or can’t afford appropriate high-end maintenance.
🤘🏽🤘🏽
Really interesting video. Surprised that with Porsche service history the brake fluid and spark plugs have not been done. Shown that full OPC history can mean nothing and what were the previous owners thinking? Skipping brake fluid is bonkers! The workshop looked a good set up and solid advice from Tom. I have a 996 turbo videos like this really help.
I think the previous owner was a bit of a home mechanic and probably told them to leave some jobs he thought he could do himself and never got round to