Howard Webb confirms that ex-players CANNOT be used as VAR officials right now 🔥
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- PGMOL chief Howard Webb joined Jim White and Simon Jordan on talkSPORT this afternoon.
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VAR = Very Annoying Refereeing
Howard Webb is an undeniably impressive individual. I think more transparency is what's required to restore trust in refereeing, and these behind the scenes audio recordings are a great start.
Go lick his boots
Unless they are live then it's pointless.
They've just shown you non contentious decisions that have already been explained and everyone has fell for it. Why not come out and explain the ones they got wrong and why they got it wrong, like the deliberate handball by Lindelof against West Ham.
@@darreno2428 and it has to be live. If it isn't live they can 'prepare' an explanation by listening to media, fans and planning. It has to be in the moment so we know exactly why they take a certain decision.
@@ThatGuy-tx4vm my reply was to the original poster mate. I agree, it's pointless releasing audio after the event. Like you say they can edit, cut or just add bits after.
Going over the Havertz incident again? Nobody disputed this.
Ask him about Brighton at Spurs or forgetting to draw the lines at Arsenal.
Exactly or the rodri handball last year
City going after Utd 3peat
Howard Webb returns as Chief Ref
Rashford Offside goal given Vs City
FA Cup Winner decided,no?😂
Listen here you! Don't you know this is about getting some good PR for VAR.
Not about explaining why they go the most obvious decisions completely wrong then said "whoops" and moved on. Why are you being do mean?
Should be a statue of Howard Webb at Old Trafford, he did so much for that club.
Dry your eyes mate!
To go next to one of Mike Riley?
always find it funny when fans of all teams claim bias for other clubs but never there own
Miss Howard Webb cracking talent....saw him have some great performances for Man United..
Mrs Howard Webb, he's married
Dry your eyes mate he's been retired nearly 10 years, you need to let it go.
City going for Utd 3peat
Howard Webb made Chief Ref
Rashford Offside goal given Vs City
FA Cup Winner already decided,no?😂
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings agreed sir … That goal was a joke 🫨… Come on City 💙
@@Timmeh551 wasn’t a joke though was it because it was given and city’s defence just stopped. Play to the whistle
If you think ref have biases, ex players would be 10X worse as the wear there loyalties on their sleeves.
I totally agree, imagine Danny Murphy on the VAR for a Liverpool vs united game or Cundy for a Chelsea spurs game!!
At least some of the smaller clubs might get a bit of bias every now and again rather than the same select few every season.
Brilliant stuff, Man United Legend Howard Webb in the studio.
Get over it
These guys are either incompetent or corrupt. A guy gets punched in the face and his nose broke, var reviewed it, and somehow they can't see what everyone can see.
Both
Good to see one of the greatest Man utd legends Mr Howard Webb
Pretty sure he has the most assisted goals for Man U as well. Proper legend there
Yeah good to hear from legendary ex-referee Neil Webb😂
Of course. Imagine the scenes if Roy Keane in VAR awards a penalty against Arsenal 😂
Refs also support football teams
@Alta How do you know the ref behind VAR is not 100% for whatever team? Just because you don't know the who is behind the VAR decisions, doesn't mean they are correct.
When you have zoom and views from every imaginable angle it's almost impossible for a professional to make a wrong call, there are only so many rules and it's not complicated at all. One of the biggest problems is that absolute majority of the fans were brainwashed to believe the opposite.
@@josephstalin4906 And yet with all this technology and zoom and views from every angle, the refs continue to issue apologies to clubs for making wrong calls. That's not on the technology, that's on the refs and it's called incompetence.
City going after Utd 3peat
Howard Webb made Chief Referee
Rashford Offside given Vs City
FA Cup Winner already decided,no?🤔
The diligence weren’t there in the Arsenal v Brentford game where they “forgot” too draw the lines in toneys offside equaliser
Odeguards goal at OT / penalty at Soton.. rough year for Arsenal
Simon looking as sharp as ever with the sky blue blazer. Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber
Sir Michael T = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
bring in japanese officials for var. i watched a couple of j league games free on their youtube channel recently and their games are so clean. no var drama no bs. call it as it is. no protecting certain players like they do in this country with kane and saka everytime they screamed they got freekicks and penalties
Japanese and the word honour are one.
Webb keeps placing emphasis on clear errors, but if VAR is taking up to five minutes to look at 'clear' errors with several people viewing an incident with all the possible angles and then sending the ref over to the monitor, how can they be deemed clear errors?
Bias/Corruption/Badge.
I don’t get why Refs even have to look at the monitor, when clowns in the booth all agree it looks a goal or penalty. Utter nonsense
'Clear error' means the ref made the wrong decision. It doesn't mean 'aww diddiums it was difficult to spot that in real time so even though it was wrong we won't correct it'.
Doesn't matter if only 1 camera angle out of 10 captures a ball hitting someone's hand and the other 9 miss it, handball is handball.
@@TKGriffiths Firstly, you say ‘handball is handball’ but handball wasn’t given against Thiago against West Ham when it was evidently handball, so it isn’t as simple as that, same with offsides they’ve got those decisions wrong despite having the line tech. Secondly, even if they got all handballs and offside right, where a factual decision can be made, the same system system doesn’t work for 50/50 fouls that are still ultimately being determined by a human after minutes worth of viewings on several angles. My point is, at what point are they looking for something wrong instead of it being clear and obvious?
Mic up the ref for 2023-2024 season please!🙏
Tbh, this is some great content from the talksport lads as opposed to the easy to absorb, hyperbolic and incredibly fun takes we usually see. Having more discussion on the game and its transition to mediate technology, social media discourse and the ACTUAL game is very insightful,. I would like to think more of the same would be great but thats not what football is about. I get that from The Athletic. But it's nice to hear the lads have a proper conversation on the matters we care about every weekend (if it affects out team) as opposed to conjecture and media grabs. Salut!
I`d love to hear the discussion when Diogo Jota recklessly studded Oliver Skipp in the face and was let off a clear red card, or when Konate rugby tackled Richarlison in the penalty area and was let off with conceding a clear penalty, or when Fabinho deliberately elbowed Heung Min Son in the face last season and was let off a clear red card, or when Alexander-Arnold shoved Sessegnon to the ground from behind in the penalty area at White Hart Lane and was let off a clear red card and conceding a penalty, etc etc, there is a bit of pattern emerging here.
What an insanely biased comment
Jim and Simon are not the best duo to give this interviewing opportunity to.
He puched him and they still got it wrong, it was so blatant
Absolutely preposterous that ex pros are NOT currently allowed in the VAR studio.....so you have refs on the pitch who haven't played the game to a decent level getting a decision wrong because they haven't experienced the challenge at speed in their life, transferring to another person in the VAR studio who also has no experience of that challenge at speed & at a level. It's ludicrous.
Get an ex player to review every VAR decision and you will not have any confusion because you guessed it…..they have made that tackle, been on the end of that tackle, made that block, been on the end of an elbow etc etc etc
Think its defo good to hear the thought process on decisions
There was one incident at the beginning of the season with VAR incorrectly ruling out a good goal for Juventus and by the next round of games they had introduced semi automated offside across Serie A. Zero BS. Full accountability.
British refereeing is rotten to the core and all VAR has done is shine an extra bright light on it.
Look, they did one thing well. Don't let bias cloud your judgement. Italy did calciopoli. Competence is not the problem with refs, honesty is.
italian referees are brilliant! calciopoli and all
exactly that.
I think its convenient that the examples they show are of correct decisions rather incorrect
Exactly that.
Would be great to see/hear when Man City handled the ball at Everton last season whereby that possibly changed where the title went to, they will never ever show that one, it’s clear the officials were either incompetent or bias
City going after Utd 3peat
Howard Webb made Chief Referee
Rashford Offside goal given Vs City
FA Cup Winner already decided,no?😂
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Utter nonsense pal. If they were trying to rig it so that City do not win 3 in a row then they are doing a piss poor job of it, wouldn't you say ? Simple fact is the referees in England, compared to all other major leagues in Europe, are utterly incompetent. No other League which uses Var have anywhere near the controversy that you see in England and it boils down to ridiculously poor referees refing the English game.
@@michaelohara49
UEFA banned City on 0 proof
Real VARdrid conspired Super League
Carvajal,Kroos escaped Red Cards
CL Winner already decided,no?🤔
@@michaelohara49 How do you make the English top league the most competitive league in the world ?
Stop Liverpool and Arsenal winning it all the time
That's all the Refs need to do
A few dodgy penalties to Manure Chelsea and other
Blatant penalties not given to Arsenal and Liverpool and you have a 18 point swing ,
every single season
Its the "anybody but Liverpool and Arsenal Premier league"
Its been fixed since its inception
Money Money Money
@@michaelohara49 Europe uses the VAR, used at the World Cup. So much easier. No drawing the lines or cross wires, going frame by frame. Best league in the world Prem, but worst refs and out of date VAR system
"VAR isn't like it is on tv" you's are trained, experienced referees who should know what is handball or offside. All I hear are excuses for a flawed system. And it annoys me when people say "they're only human" yeah very trained humans who shouldn't be refereeing at the top level if they can't get basic decisions right. Some of the refs in the PL should be demoted to lower leagues.
"But...but....but the level of scrutiny is too high. We just made a few mistakes and then carried on as if nothing happened. Why is everyone being so mean when we miss a handball or penalty decision. We're only human 😞" - PGMOL
they should never get offside wrong as it either is or isn,t.but handball and fouls in box are judgement calls and often hard to call
If they are proved to be incompetent on the football pitch, they get moved into the VAR box. Their decisions are just as useless but nobody can shout at them and hurt their feelings. VAR should be totally separate from the on pitch referees. The people who do the VAR should be despised by the referees, or they are not doing the job properly!
How about playing us the conversation from one of the ones VAR got wrong! And how did VAR miss Anderson punching Lerma on the nose? That was CLEARLY WRONG. Punching a guy on the nose is a matter of fact, not a judgement call.
My issue with it is similar to the NFL it seems to be used to make a game more dramatic for the audience, if you ever watch the replays in the last 5 mins of an NFL game if they can keep the game to one score they will use as much of the cameras they need for the desired outcome.
My 2nd issue is with these offsides, one you do not know the precise time the ball is released, 2nd we need to changed the rule to foot position not shoulder or head, the World Cup drove me crazy, if in doubt its onside and we are doing millimetres when we don’t do the release of the pass perfectly.
Finally,
some clarity!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course. Imagine Shearer in VAR on that penalty decision against Arsenal!👍
Get it right going forward! The mistakes were far too frequent this season, and teams don’t want to hear sorry and we all move in. There’s too much at stake.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
The biggest issue with VAR is not the tech itself but the subjectivity of the referee operating it. The best way to sort that is have the searchable rule book next to the screen and do a search of the key word of the type of incident taking place at the pitch. That way no referee is interpreting their own version of rules. If there is even a mistake due to a crappy rule, it's on the rule at that point and at the very least it's consistent in every game.
Or use people who ever played the game and understand what’s what. Not these refs who have never played the game
Some of the rules though require the referees own opinion though which is think is part of the problem
You don't need a rule book to know if something is a foul or offside.
And just how long would checking a rule book for every offence take? VAR is for 'clear and obvious' offences. So if a VAR needs a rule book check for that, then we are really in deep trouble.
@@glyntaylor-williams3593 fouls are judgement calls,some easy some not
Great topic lads 👌
Man U legend without kicking a ball
Good info and great POV from the Ref...If Danny Murphy and the all ex players that think are better than the current VAR guys, then maybe the compromise would be a fast-track course/training for VAR Assistant for former PL/EFL Players..just like they do with their Coaching Badges.
Howard should accept the challenge! Let Danny do a non competative game and see how he does.
Referees have been officiating since their teens and have to retire at 45. A player retires from football at the same age a professional Referee is at their peak.
You can’t just give them a multiple choice questionnaire and issue them a license.
Danny Murphy would make no right decisions because he wouldn’t have a clue what the rules are - he would referee based his flawed understanding of the rules from 1993
Referees and VAR officials must start to come out after a match an explain themselves just like managers and players and when they've made a big mistake they should pay for it with a demotion, like clubs do when they dont perform they drop down a league, players loose money if they drop a division so should ref's.
Referees are not media trained. Managers and players only turn up due to the sponsorship and there clubs getting fined otherwise.
@@philipjones9793 referees are paid so they are proffesional's , if they are not media savvy its up to the FA to equip them , rugby refs are not media trained but i can hear every word they say .
@@garryellison rugby refs are microphoned up during the game but do not come post-match, this is not wanted in football because it exposes what footballers say on the pitch. Perhaps you are right that the FA could train them, the issue is the media will ask provocative questions because that's their job and referees will not answer them because they cannot for instance on a red card as this could go to a disciplinary hearing and anything said would be used as evidence. I can guarantee that you will still be frustrated on the matter and all that will happen is a referee integrity will get battered and people will get frustrated at referees having a personality.
@@philipjones9793 Perhaps that is so , but the current system where they do not have accountability isn't good enough.
If VAR needs more than 1 minute to reach a conclusion then the on-field decision should stand - whether it's ultimately right or wrong - as it patently can't have been a clear and obvious error.
There is something in this but it assumes somehow they can rewind and see the exact camera angle required to make the perfect decision in 60 seconds. It’s a good idea but maybe just adds to the pressure and assumes perfect tech
Explain why Danny Ings goal was ruled out this weekend just gone. The decusions have unconscious bias.
the handball rule needs serious revision
If they don't want to release the Transcripts between the VAR Operator and the Refs, they should at least release them to the teams so that they can listen to what was said at a decisive point in the game. I bet that if they did release some from this season, they would make interesting listening.
Kane was offside where is the lines shown to public. Corruption at its finest
VAR needs to be televised, as part of the game, so we can see and hear the process AND be staffed by ex-players. I'm amazed by the lack of understanding that the current people have.
As for the Linesmen (Assistant Referees)... what is their point? They don't flag for offside any more, or they get it wrong. I was all for goal-line technology but VAR delays and decisions are ruining the game.
Very impressed with how Howard Webb has come across there. Very open, very honest and concise with his answers.
Honest 😂 yeah tell your wife I’ll be round for 6 for our out of work drinks.
VAR is ruining the game.
It’s nothing to do with the rules, it’s interpretation by whoever.
Howard how did Willock get pushed from a Palace player into his own keeper and the goal was disallowed explain how that wasnt giving
'Now we've got these tools we can use' at Stockley park
Excellent interview with Howard Webb and the first time I’ve ever seen Simon Jordan not interrupt.
As an up and coming ref i agree with this totally, football has always been a closed shop in every department its hard enough to get to the top if you dont have the connections
Danny Murphy going full on Yer Da mode at the end there.
Why does it take all bloody day to make the decision and don’t start me on drawing lines 🙈🙈
Jim was so soft with Howard here … hypocrisy
Finally some transparency from Webb and var it’s been a very long time coming, hope changes continue in a positive direction, some of the decisions have been completed blunders, I agree the level of quality needs to be higher in refs working in Var chair
Explaining the obvious and easy to explain decisions isn't transparency, it's called sugar coating for the gullible to believe. Why not explain the ones they got wrong and why they got it wrong or any of the dozens upon dozens of double standard decisions the give for certain clubs. That would be proper transparency.
There's not a chance in hell that Murphy knows the laws of the game better than anyone manning VAR 😂
They don't need ex players. Every knowledgeable football fan can see that some of the rules need changing and the var lines should be made even bigger while they're at it. Sometimes even the ex pros make mistakes when judging what should be a handball or red card. They constantly disagree with each other anyway so it wouldn't matter
I agree, the rules are flawed as is the system. However some of the refs in the PL are not good enough and need re-trained or demoted. These experienced refs who have been doing it for years should know what handball and offside is as well as interpretating the law properly.
Who would do the job given the ridiculous levels of abuse from thousands of half wits who think a decision is wrong cause it goes against them.
Why not let us hear the VAR conversations when they get it badly wrong !!!! Of course you wont...cant have the public venting their disgust can you !!!...very poor Jim...Very poor.
I was shocked to hear Howard Webb is not trained to operate VAR. He knows the system inside-out but can't operate it...
I wish they would have asked him about the official who forgot to draw the VAR line which lost Arsenal 3 points earlier on in the year. I agree with a set number (2 or 3) challenges per match; when a referee refuses to check VAR- a captain should be able to force a check.
They should've came up with all this before bringing it in 😂
I guarantee he knew what they were going to ask him before he went on, to prepare every single answer and tell them that they can't ask this or that ect.
How long until we get jury panel watching replays and provide anonymous vote result?
I remember when American football started using replays in the 80s. Eventually even they got rid of it because it slowed the game down too much, and didn't always guarantee a yes no answer. They did bring it back in later, but even with a ton more cameras and officials than this game uses, they still don't have a perfect system. Peoples expectations are too high.
Expecting them not to be incompetent is not too much to ask. There are some of these refs that make REPEATED clangers n that is the problem.
How can it slow American football down when it is already stop start? I am just curious
@@gunner4life568 The breaks in play were lasting several minutes long, and ultimately too difficult for the tv companies to slot the right amount of ads in.
Why do dodgy Var decisions almost always favour certain clubs and never cost them? The same top 6 bias that referees have, VAR officials also have. No surprise there!
Alot of respect for howard but its EXTREMELY worrying that he can sit there and say that "VAR has improved the game". It just hasent
The only way VAR is going to work is by VAR being in place at every stadium live game with the 4th reg on the panel instead of VAR covering all game via a building miles away from the game.
Also refs and VAR need to start giving post match interviews after every game too
Var should shown on the Stadium big screen not a little tv monitor all secretive and dont replay it for 20 different angles do as the rule states Clear and obvious and dont take 5mins it works in Rugby Union !!!
People want consistency. If you're going to scrutinize the build up to a goal for one team, then you better do it to every goal for every team.
How can the VAR officials take time to analyse whether it’s a penalty or not then get it wrong, as a West Ham fan there has been 7 incidents that where wrong and cost us valuable points and then after the game the officials apologise and say we got that wrong but that doesn’t help get the points back.
how about the handball pass you guys got against Chelsea?
@@CtrlDGame Soucek got away with an awful handball. How was it not a penalty? But the most amateurish decision this season was the disallowing of Cornet goal v Chelsea. That’s where VAR should never get it wrong. Oh and what about the handball by ManU from Benny last week.
@@mercedessl8718 my point being decisions go both ways and over the course of a season/couple of seasons, ends up averaging out.
@@CtrlDGame my point being VAR should never get it wrong
Let’s listen to a few where you got it completely wrong. There should be plenty
Choosing to release the ones that work
If you cannot use people WHO KNOW THE GAME, how can you continue to use people WHO HAVEN'T A CLUE ? The Incompetence shown week in, week out in "The Worlds Best League" is unreal. Best League, Worst referee's. They are atrocious. the decisions they make are diabolical. When the PGMOL make an apology to a team because of this decision or that decision, I think a team should be compensated.... with points. If a Penalty that should have been given, wasn't, that Penalty should be given post match, and the goal stand against the result, if it means it becomes a draw, it is counted as a draw with both teams getting a point, if it becomes a win, that team is given the 3 points. I also think some referees and VAR officials who constantly make these catastrophic decisions, need to be stood down.
There is concern I understand, with grass roots referees, quitting the game, well, if you had these incompetent morons to look upto.... you'd change your profession as well.
I use the game Man City 1 Leeds 2 as a example of the incompetence in the referees. Liam Cooper, sent off for a serious foul play, for a high tackle on Gabriel Jesus, who afterwards got up and continued to play the game (I don't recall if he completed the game or was substituted later). In the same game, Fernandinho, assaults Raphinha in the second half, Raphinha was IMMEDIATELY substituted, because he could not continue and later that week it was revealed Raphinha had career saving surgery to remove a blood clot in his leg, from that incident..... Did VAR make a decision on that tackle.... NO, it wasn't even looked at. Someones career may have been ended, ENDED.... and the player who did it, was able to continue playing.
There are many many more incidents of incompetence, it NEEDS TO STOP.....
Here in Australia we had a case a few years ago in the final game for the league (we have a play-off system) which my team Newcastle Jets had the final at our home stadium, the opposition Melbourne score a goal from a free kick which was clearly offside, however VAR went offline somehow for those 30 seconds. The goal was given even though the screen replays at the stadium showed the offside. The goal stood and we ultimately lost 1-0. Absolute farce, you couldn't make it up.
We see the bias of ex players in the media world, would not trust them to be impartial with Var, let alone the ones that are gamblers.
Interesting+
Made "some" errors, it's amazing how many of those decisions have been made in a way to benefit the "top 6" clubs and against those who aren't, it's almost like there's a bias going on.
Webb laughing at Danny Murphy when he says he’s more intelligent is hilarious!
Only insecure people say they are more intelligent. And because he watched more football then anyone. That’s like saying you’d be a better Poker player from watching it on TV! Or a better police officer because you watch Cops! 😂😂😂
There are no repercussions for officials making clearly bad decisions. Harry Kanes dubious penalty against Villa at the weekend. He was offside when the move started, so the penalty decision should not even have been considered in the first place. Why didn't VAR pick that up?
Did not take any further action from sat against Anderson on little jab put on lerma saying it was not a swinging arm this is why var is not fit for purpose
The problem isn't var is the fact that every referee interprets the rules differently.
Especially when it comes to fouls/yellows etc too. The inconsistency is ridiculous
Exactly. They need to try to simplify the rules so the margins for interpretation is less
@Mike Treneere-Kernow Its also biased towards shorter players. Imagine you have Kante and Crouch directly in line with each other as they are sprinting - bodies,head in line, yet because Crouchy would have a larger stride length and longer arms he would be deemed offside even though he is technically level with Kante. It doesn't work, there needs to be clear space between attacking player and defensive player.
That's because the laws are open to interpretation, what do people not get about this.
With subjective laws, you are going to get different refs seeing things differently
You forgot to add.... 'depending on who the decision is being made for or against'...... At the end.
Pointless, get rid of VAR. Sort the woeful officials first and foremost
I can see why fifa don't allow it but every ref or var assistant will also support a team too.
Howard is a quality individual.
As fans we just want consistency.
good luck getting that in a sport that has outcomes and infractions based on opinions
Who the hell wants ex players with all their biases involved in refereeing?
I am very very surprised that interpretation of the law wasn’t asked. Interpretation by referees and their decisions are what makes VAR seem inferior. Why did referees interpret that Rashford wasn’t offside when he clearly was interfering? What did referees interpret that the West Ham player fouled Kepa when Kepa fouled the player and ended up disallowing a perfect goal?
The only was VAR will ever work is if the officials in the VAR room can make their decisions not knowing which team is which. Whether that technology - to turn the players into blocks of colour, perhaps one team is red, one is green - is actually available is another matter, but if not and if it continues as it is, then they'll always have their bias.
Interesting that Howard Webb’s first comment is to talk about getting it right for the big teams. A tacit confession that VAR is about the big teams. In the PL all of the teams are big teams and all of the games are big games. Its not more important to get it right for Chelsea or Man Utd.
They should have asked him why is VAR biased towards man city
The answer is very simple, just hand it over to AI. It will not be biased. ChatGPT could literally do the job of TalkSport so don't tell me that it can't happen.
Just do away with it. You could live with a ref making a mistake in real time. But it's infuriating that they still make a mistake when they have video evidence to review.
Give this man time, he will bring something new. and I think he will do the job with passion, but he will better the standards, guaranteed. no X players should be allowed on refereeing duties at all. referees are being trained for that, let them do their job. x players must stop abuse referees. NOT X PLAYERS PLEASE< THEY WILL F UP EVERYTHING. danny is dreaming. he will make a mockery of football.
I think VAR reviews should only be at the request of the ref on the pitch. If he's happy with his decision then VAR shouldn't be involved. As for linesmen there should be four of them, one for each half on either side of the pitch. At the moment they do bugger all except leave their job up to VAR.
How can an arm out & its offside its football with feet not arms
Hooper played for Swindon until 16. He is definitely one of the best ones.
If there’s that much discussion for a var call how could all of them not draw the offside lines on arsenal Brentford game discrace
slow motion needs to stop, it makes all tackles look bad
dead right,it makes every foul look deliberate,var should only check fouls in real time. but handball needs slowmo in order to be sure
Jim White bottled it! Anderson DID pinch Lermer on the nose, he didn’t “appear to” do so!!
What about when Romero pulled Cucu’s hair? That’s nonsense, they picked what made them look good.
Still seems very corrupt. So many apologies. I think Brighton have been ripped off this season.
Why did VAR not pick up on Pickfords blatant foul on Haaland in the second half during Sundays game.. reply's showed the foul clearly, yet no action taken..with plenty of time for VAR to rectify
It’s no good Danny Murphy doing it. There is already a massive bias towards Liverpool😂
Why are the examples given ones which didn't take 4 minutes or more then the ref had to still have a look is not clear and obvious. It is clearly looking for a reason to change to change. If a decision takes that long it is not clear ir obvious.
Football officiating will always have a subjective aspect. VAR cannot eliminate that! It can only confirm/ rule out the more obvious objective calls. It was never made to make referring a perfect science.
Wonder what VAR would have made of the de Jong decision in the world cup final. Wouldn't be surprised if it was deemed not clear and obvious.