Upgrade your Creality K1 or K1 Max with Micro-Swiss FlowTech Hotend
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2023
- Chuck shows you how to install a Micro-Swiss FlowTech HotEnd upgrade for your Creality K1 or K1 Max. He explains the differences between the original Creality version that can leak and the Flowtech version. Then he runs some prints to see how well it works. Check it out on this week's Filament Friday.
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Another great video showing lots of detail and great expaination! Just got my K1 Max today, wow what a nice machine! It came w the new “red” hot end installed plus an extra.
Hi chep. I have a tip for removing silicone glue. Apply a little isopropyl alcohol around the glue, wait about 5 seconds and the glue will come off very easily.
The FlowTech Hotend requires a specialized nozzle, but Micro Swiss only sells a copper-plated version (the same one included with their Hot End). It's supposed to be wear-resistant. I wonder how fast it'll wear out when printing carbon fiber and other more abrasive filaments.
I just did this upgrade on Wednesday. Working good so far.
Just did this upgrade today, following your video. Getting that braided connector back on was a PITA especially with my bad eyes and fat fingers, but persistence paid off! Thanks Chuck! 😁👍🏼
What a great moment today. I was lucky enough to run into to Chuck in the wild. Such a wonderful conversation about printers and filaments and help another person buy a nee printer. Keep up the amazing work.
It was great to meet you too.
I installed a Revo on my Ender, and I love the peace of mind of not worrying about hotend leak disasters. The price for this upgrade seems well worth it to me, so long as nozzles are readily available and reasonably priced.
Great details on the Micro-Swiss FlowTech and installation. I was wondering what the advantages would be and I am impressed. Great to see third-party products being developed for the K1 and MAX. Glad Creality has an open architecture to enable this.
Thanks a lot!
Most videos do not show the cables view or even where the screws go. This was amazing!
Hey, will you be making K1 and K1 max profiles for creality print slicer? It always helps out so much when you make a profile
I took off the PCB board to easier be able to remove the connectors from the old hot end and to add the ones from the new one. Made it a ton easier and it's only three extra screws. That also made it easy to clean the fan in there while doing it. The FlowTech wires are longer, too. All around a much easier to use / remove / install. Worth the cost I paid on Black Friday. Arrived just in time as I had the same error show up on my K1 as in the beginning of the video and that hot end was only about a month old. Best upgrade I've done my K1 so far.
Thank you. Right in time ;D I was just thinking of purchasing this hotend.
So, I bought this Micro Swiss Flow Tech hot end, and I have to say I like it.... the prints so far have been beautiful. BUT.... changing out the hot end that came installed on the printer was a bit of a pain. My particular problem was that the two hot end connectors that need to be removed were GLUED in place and didn't come out easily. After yanking on them for a while with needle-nosed pliers they finally loosened, but in the process the wire leads inside those receptacles got bent. Thankfully I noticed all that before I tried to plug in the Flow Tech.... if I had tried to plug in the Flow Tech with those bent connectors I would not have made proper contact and I probably would not have known later what went wrong. I actually had to turn the printer on its side to make those delicate fixes... which turned out to be a wise step because the rest of the installation process was a lot easier without having to stoop down while bending your neck and working upwards. My arms couldn't take it!
I'm not really a fan of having another standard of nozzle. what manufacturers are going to make compatible nozzles for this? when will we get the Diamondback version? a CHT version? who knows.
I also recognize that this is probably a marked upgrade compared to stock. Definitely use what works best for you.
Thank you! I will test this hotend. I hope, they bring us also a hardend nozzle soon?!
They have one actually it's brass with a zircon something metal tip with a non stick coating, it's supposed to last really long but i dunno
Danke für die tolle Beschreibung :-) ich hab ein Hotend für meinen K1 Max vor einer Woche bestellt leider wurde er noch nicht geliefert.
I wasn't sure which K1 Max I had so I had a look at the spare hot end that it came with and I confirmed it was the v1 hot end. I did have a bit of a scare when it wasn't detecting a sensor but it was simply not connected. Other than that it is working great.
Great instructions dude... 🙂
This will help, (I'm disabled and need that extra something something) to get a clear visual and hands on access to the underside of the hot end task.
Turn the KI Max upside down on the work bench. Have a sheep skin of beach towel as a bench cover to rest the inverted printer on. Makes this task a pleasant one.... (not so easy with the smaller K1 without masking taping a square roasting tray onto the top of the printer first... haha. been there, done that!)
is the creality replacement kit you mentioned at the beginning of the video still available? if so how do you claim?
the rubber band hack is genius.
What about nozzles?? Looks like u have to get special nozzles if you ever need to replace... Or it's it a type of harden steel?
I wish you’d do a detailed guide to how to install root access to the K-1 and K-max. I watched the “Official” Guide, it’s very good, but at the end, while they were using Putty to assign the port, and adding the Mainsail-Camera fix, the guide became confusing. I’m sure you could improve on the Root Access install. That would be a great video!
Nice video again 👍🏻
It’s barely a video it’s a slideshow with commendation that’s barely different than the included instructions lol
The photos might as well be the same too barely any detail was shown
@@youtubecontrols Try to be more of a jerk next time, I really feel like you didn't leave it all on the field and give it your all. Oh, yeah and "commendation"? I think you mean "commentary", you illiterate dewsh.
plenty of details to install the hotend @@youtubecontrols
@youtubecontrols - Interesting. Wonder your thoughts on Ken Burns award winning Civil War series of videos.
@@FilamentFriday Your videos are always useful and pleasantly concise! Ken Burns slide show documentaries, however, are great for provoking unexpected naps
So i did this upgrade and upon restarting the machine i unfortunately got a Key:2092 error. It is thermister related is the only info i van find. Any thoughts on this. Checked in creality print and it is saying the temp is 580c. Well after viewing your video again it turned out i had the cables crossed, lol. Any plans on a .6mm profile?
Are you developing profiles for the K1?
A lot of people seem to be upgrading the K1 to the Micro-Swiss FlowTech.
Does this upgrade make printing with tpu more reliable?
When plugging in the connectors one of the white wires came out of the connector. It didn't have the shrink wrap over it like yours did... :(
Thank you. 👍🏻
Got mine in two days ago (regular K1). I was actually curious what the process would be for replacing the hot end on one of these so this was super helpful.
Any plans to make Cura profiles for these? I’ve just been using the default profiles on Creality Slicer for the few prints I’ve done so far.
ORCASlicer so far good. it in profile
Hey Chuck, I need some help. Yesterday I installed the microswiss hotend and everything was fine, until it didn't. My printer seemed to get stuck, and I eventually found out that a piece of filament has been squished between the two gears in the extruder motor. I fixed the issue and it worked fine again. However, the exact same thing happened today. Any idea what may be causing this?
isnt there going to be galvanic corrosion between the copper and aluminum?
So after replacing it you’ll have to buy nozzles from microswiss and I can’t upgrade to a diamond nozzle?
Chuck, Have you had problem with the K1s jamming up. I've been using the recommended setting for generic PLA and I believe that my machine suffers from heat creep and the filament is melting way up in the heat break. With the old hot end it would jammed during the first layer of a very large print and after I clear the jam, it will finish the print with no problems. I installed the Microswiss this weekend and all three attempts to print it jammed at different stages of the print, but not on the first layer, it did it once the printer was at full speed.
Check your fan to see if it’s working or possible restricted.
Hope you can help i changed to this hot end and now i get error key 2111 unknown exception any idea
I have had my k1 max now for a week and every day, when I go to print something, the filament will not go in all the way and the gears skip. I have to take the nozzle off and sometimes the extruder and get basically force out the mess inside. So this hot end should eliminate this?
Also struggled with this initially. When I changed my extruder to the newer creaility one I moved the ptfe exit further back in the chain to give it more of a gentle curve into the extruder. Also make sure to "unlock" the extruder before loading filament, and then lock it back before printing
Thermal paste is not required or recommended for a new hot end reinstall?
Not for this one model no.
did you change any settings ? i have stringing and under-extrusion after changing to swiss hotend
maybe check your volumetric flow rate for your material in you slicer?
Nice, thank you as always
Would this work on the CR-10 SE ?
any upgrades to make it quieter? its too loud for me. I have completely stock K1
Print at 200mm/s with 50% cooling on all fans, turn off the back fan if you don't need it
threaded parts tend to losen as they heat up so its bet to follow the instructions and tourqe the nozzel
It’s such a lot torque it doesn’t matter. And because the design doesn’t need to stay tight to a heat break, it doesn’t have to be super tight. My finger tightening worked great.
Nice , do you worked with 5 axis 3D printer?
Nope.
Mr. Chuck - I know I'd butcher your last name.
When you were putting the hotend and connectors back together, I noticed that @ 4:44 , the female side was either partially melted or chewed up from taking the Creality hot end off. Your thoughts? Or did you see any issues?
When I load the 0.28 project file I get a similar print time compared to the 0.20 project files.
It also names the profile the same as the 0.20 profile, could you please check the files?
Other than that the 0.32 Hyper Fast profile is awesome, just printed a part in 1h 36m instead of 6+ hours
Thanks for the awesome profiles! (Using an Ender 3 Max Neo)
Edit: The ver3.2 files seem to be fine, ver3.3 is not.
hey chep ! what 's your choice between creality k1 and bambu p1s?
K1. Easy. Bambu printers require bambu slicer and they stream camera and microphone data to CCP in China. Creepy stuff. There's no need for a mic on a 3d printer. Just get the k1, 379 at micro center or 449 online.
I prefer the open source K1 vs closed Electronics/Firmware of P1S. But buy what works for you. They both work well. My favorite is K1 Max larger size bed. Microcenter has them for $699. Same price as P1S.
@@FilamentFriday i hope that is more reliable than ender3...bambu has the ams and creality have nothing.. is a nice feature
@@cgwworldministries83 is simple to cover camera ... but you can disable camera and microphone
Hi,
Can the Micro-swiss Flow Tech Hotend also be used on the Ender V3 KE?
I'm interested in this too, is it the same hotend?
they have a ender 3 ke heat break. the difference is that the guide doest have a lip and the screws are shorter. i am getting a the K1 version for my ke because i can't get the ke one in australia (can order it from the states but will take a month to get here and my hot end is broken )@@Murgoh
@@ropes83 Did you end up doing this upgrade, and if so how did the install go? And how are the results?
@@Lon1001 I installed the k1 hot end on the KE. I had to sand off the brim on the throat and use the old screws from the previous hot end. It solved all my problems. The nozzles are good and I had a big problem with the ceramic on the standard one braking. There is a metal cover on the micro Swiss so that’s not a problem. The cold change nozzle works when so easy to take off and on. It’s definitely worth it.
@@ropes83 thanks for the reply, it's good info to know, I ordered the OEM hotend for my KE but it was hard to find one in stock so was considering upgrading to the flowtech but again can only get them in Canada for the K1 configuration. I wasn't sure if the wires would be long enough, plus my 2 little assembly screws are stripped out and I am hoping the creality hotend includes new ones. If this one gives me trouble again I'll be finally doing the microswiss upgrade on it.
You da man!
you have the old type extruder
Why do you say that?
What do you see?
@@FilamentFriday newest extruder has a spring inside and white bowden tube conector I think you have v2 not v3 i have 4 of the k1 max
👍❤
Really interesting indeed! Thanks a bunch for the tutorial, Chuck! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Good review though it looks like a pain to remove and install.
My k1 extruder came with metal gearing. The one thing I learned early on is the k1's hotend is actually perfect. I have 4 k1s and a mk4 and 4 mk3s all going in my fleet. I tried upgrading to this hotend and at best I saw no improvements. It clogged about 60 or so hours in, slapped the original creality one back in place and just ordered replacements for backups. The microswiss was an upgrade for the ender 3, 5, and 6 but it's a downgrade on the k1 and newer ender 3v3.
Possibly stupid question... Creality says to remove the lid when printing PLA to prevent clogs. The design of the Micro Swiss should help prevent clogs. So could we leave the lid on permanently? 🤷♂
I leave it on without any issues so far.
@@FilamentFriday is that with the stock hot end or the micro swiss?
The Lid thing was because sometimes the bowden tube would bend at a weird angle when it went to the far front on the left corner and cause problems feeding the filament I removed the last plastic clip holding it to the chain and solved that issue.
@@AlbertoMartinez765 the reason I ask is because keeping the lid open makes the carbon filter somewhat useless
I printed a riser with vents that can be closed for my k1 max. There is plenty of clearance for the bowden tube, and I leave the vents open for PLA and PETG, and closed for ABS.
If it's not compatible with a Diamondback nozzle, it's a deal-breaker for me. 😪
Same.
If they made a Neptune 4 Max hotend it would be the perfect solution. I love my Max but the only problem with it is the hotend. I've already had Elegoo replace it twice for free because it's badly designed and creates a blob of death that catastrophically destroys the wiring.
i guess yours doesn't have a lidar...
I prefer it when someone flat out says the video was paid for by the company... Honestly can't trust anything he says it all may be true but it isn't reliable because of where the money is coming from.
It does not fit in the new K1 max. The copper thermal adapter is too big. It does not fit. Frustrating.
Also there is no screw on the back of the cooling block anymore. Ugh
I ordered creality's official kit and found the same issue.
Fits mine no issue and I definitely have the grub screw at the back. Bought the printer 3 weeks ago.
As far as i know, there are two versions of Creality heatspreaders and micro swiss offers also two different hotends matching the creality heatspreader versions.
So glad I bought a bambu lab, need none off this stuff.
Probably paid a lot more too.
BL printer nozzles are crimped into the hotends and sold as a complete package. Over on Reddit people talk about needing to buy 5 at once to ensure they have enough spare nozzles/hotends because of semi-frequent nozzle clogs that they're unable to clear. Are you seriously celebrating being locked into an ecosystem with no aftermarket and minimally user-serviceable parts?
@@FilamentFriday For sure! But after years of "tinkering" with enders it's pretty awesome to just hit print on a Bambu lab and it prints. No more crazy profiles, no workarounds, no buying 3d party nozzles to fix something that should work. :) Once you get an AMS and starting printing multicolor and multimaterial you can never go back to old school 3d printing. Wait till you try printing support interfaces with PETG while printing PLA..
Creality selling poor quality 3D Printers Spool trapped on the back ,etc Filament Tube scarting the top lid, etc
Does not matter if the hot end system is better one if the cost is above what most users can afford?
The Printer even now with all the price drops is still a premium pricey printer which is above most users budget.
So expecting them to then pay out double the already pricey hot end cost for a fancy high end higher cost hot end replacement is too much.
Some better off users can't seem to understand why most of the lower paid hobby users in 3D printing can't just go out and buy this or that fancy very pricey part!
And I am sure like allot of users I like others get annoyed by the better off lot telling us "oh but that part is only $$$$ so why not but that?"
There is a two tier of users in any hobby, there is the I can buy anything and upgrade it without caring about prices!
And the rest who not so lucky and often have to stick to a low amount of spare funds and get the lower end in the hobby and the parts. And has to save up for stuff.
But still we hear fro those lucky to spend big, that we all should just get it because it is better!
I work a very hard job and pay for all my bills and have a low wage. I have to save up a long time to buy any 3D printer or upgrade.
and it does for me like others, get up nose how the well off lot with the money to buy over $1500 or more 3D printers
still even now berate us online for not getting what they see as good high end stuff?
No one is saying you have to buy it. Just move along.
After what I’ve seen people spend to upgrade their $200 Ender 3, a K1 on sale for under $400 is actually a better deal.
@@FilamentFriday just replacing the nozzle on some hot end that doesn't leak, versus having to replace a whole hot end that does a bunch of times will pay for itself over time
So this is an ad? A video sponsored by the company that makes the product that is featured.
What rock have you been living under?
@@graphguy clearly someone living in a delusional mess.
No bro...🤦
He literally says as much in the first 30 seconds of the video...
@@alexg8406 he said he was paid but the video is not marked as an ad.