As You probably can hear the difference between these two is very narrow. I would say it is as narrow as between two pairs of the same model, which is negliable to say the least. Just choose the ones which are cheaper or the ones which have the features you need ;) Cheers!
Hi I am into purchase a 2.1 speaker system. I shortlisted Klipsch Promedia 2.1BT, Edifier S350DB. But after seeing this video I am again confused! I know these are 2.0 speakers but I notieced that the Edfier 1850DB has this sub woofer out option so if I add a nice Yamaha NS-SW100(10 inch 100 watt) or Yamaha NS-SW050 to it what will be the result. is it outperform the Klipsch Promedia 2.1BT and Edifier S350DB. Please help me out from this issue. by the way I am from India and in my area I cant find any help for this issue.My main preference is the sound!.I need well pronounced "treble" and sharp punch of "low".Hope you will understand my issues. thanks
Manoj Madhavan I'd say you're better off getting these (Edifier 1850db) and adding a sub if you have the money, but if you're on a tight budget get the pro media's.
1700BTS and 1855 bought and placed next to each other play completely differently! the main difference is the vocals, here the difference is surprisingly the largest. The human voice in 1700bts is clearer and more pleasant. In 1855, the human sound is "flattened", it sounds more artificial, but still nice and some people may like this format more. The bass in the 1700bts is 15% smaller and more compact and dynamic than in the 1855. After connecting the Klipsch subwoofer, I noticed that the 1700bts sends a slightly stronger signal to the external woofer. Bass control is similar. The 1000hz synthetic test shows noise in the 1855 that was not experienced in the 1700bts, regardless of the use of TOSLINK or RCA. I spent a lot of time choosing which speakers would go to the TV and which ones I would leave on the desk. I decided that the 1700bts would be a nicer set, while the 1855 would go to the living room next to the TV. I would like to add that the tests were carried out on the ASUS XONAR DGX card without additional equalizer improvements. I hope this will help someone choose :)
As a matter of background information, I'm currently using the R1280DB's, the R1700BT's, the R1850DB's, the R2000DB's, and the S350DB's (2.1 system). In each case, the sound quality go's up a notch or two as you climb the model ladder. Starting off with the R1280'DB's, you'll find that they are nice (especially for the money), but they are a bit boxy sounding on some material. When you then jump to the 1700BT speakers, the sound becomes a bit more open (and yes, just a tad brighter if you want to use that term - but still nicely balanced). I've got several DAC's (that I switch back and forth via a switcher) and you should hear the unbelievable high-end sounds coming out of the R1700BT's when compared with a DAC like the iFi ZenDAC - just remarkable and breath-taking. - and same scenario with the R1850DB's, but even more so. Now if you jump up to the RR1850DB's, you will begin to really notice a difference as the speakers are even more dynamic, have more bass and are even more open - more so than "next step up" R2000DB's above them. The Edifier line of speakers are surprisingly superb for the money and if you are careful with your other gear and accessories (such as using upgraded RCA cables, a great DAC, upgraded USB cables to connect to a PC for instance, etc.), the Edifiers then become audiophile quality transducers to be sure. The only issue I have with the majority of Edifier speakers is that they use these old fashioned PC type of cables to connect the speakers and they are almost impossible to find anywhere if you desire shorter lengths (or upgraded audiophile quality versions). And the lengths of these cables are ridiculous - I believe Edifier provides you with 15-16 foot lengths. Since many of us these Edifier speakers are often used in a near-field environment by our desktop PC's (or laptops), having that long of a cumbersome PC style of speaker cable is ridiculous. Both the R1700BT's and the R1850DB's use the same type of 4-pin cable. I actually found a vendor on eBay that sells 53" versions of these cables - which comes to around 4.5 feet, which is ideal for a PC setup. Here is the direct link to that cable. I've already ordered 3 sets of these cables - they are quality using belden cable. The link is (just cut in paste if the link doesn't allow you to click on it): www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-MOLEX-4-Pin-53-High-Quality-Speaker-Cable-for-Edifier-R1700BT-R1850DB/333630116398?epid=1953258580&hash=item4dade7922e:g:JlUAAOSwB4Je7QyY Only the 1280DB's allow for conventional speaker wire to be used. and I use a better grade 14 gauge variety. On all of the others they use either 4-pin or 5-pin old fashioned DIN cables - which are almost impossible to find anywhere. However, I've managed to crack the code and I've had Blue Jeans Cables map out these cables and they made me some nice audiophile versions of these cables (5-pin) for the R2000DB and the R350's and they sound wonderful. Have a great day! Ben Herrmann Fuquay Varina, NC
Hey there! Thanks so much for your detailed reply. Just wanted to know what are your thoughts on the Edifier E25HD Luna Eclipse compared to the R1700BT and the R2000DB? When I was studying abroad a few years back I managed to pick up the R1280DBs for cheap and they served me well, but I had to resell them once I moved back. Now, I'm facing a dilemma on which speakers to upgrade to as I know for a fact that R1700BTs are much better than my previous R1280DB, and the pricing right now is just right. But I'm wondering if I should fork out a bit extra for the Luna Eclipse E25HD or the R2000DB (both priced almost the same, but the R1700BT are much cheaper than these)?
@@arieltakom Great hearing from you! OK - where to begin: 1. As I mentioned, with each upgrade, you begin to notice improvements in the sound chain - it's a given - but there are a few Edifiers that null and void that assumption. One of them is the diminutive e10 that looks like something from outer space. That small speaker has imaging capabilities that shock you. Yes, it has a smallish 3" woofer, along with a passive radiator, but the balance is really nice. 2. That brings me to the e25HD - a speaker that I've been eyeing also. From what I've seen and heard, it is a superb sounding speaker also - but I would use it in situations/scenarios where space is of a premium. In each instance - from the R1280's all the way up the chain (remember, the e10 and e25 is part of the computer line), the bass is superior due to larger volumes in the enclosures and larger woofers. 3. Two speakers I highly recommend is both the R1700BT and R1850DB - and they are sized almost the same. If you are considering between these two, I'd opt for the R1850DB because I noticed an improvement in the overall audio - subtle, but noticeable to trained ears. 4. The R2000DB's begin to put you in a bigger league with a larger 5" woofer, giving you better bass capabilities, and it has a somewhat larger and heavier cabinet. As I mentioned, I have all of these speakers - but not the e25 - because at this point, I don't need the e25. So my suggestion would be: If you are just thinking a incremental upgrade due to price factors, get the R1700BT. If you can afford $25 - $50 more, strongly consider the R1850's. And if you can go a bit higher, the R2000DB's will give you quite a bit more. Decisions, decisions, decisions - don't ya hate that!!!! In all cases though, whatever Edifier speaker you settle on, rest assured that if you do everything right, meaning upgrading the connecting cables (RCA's), using a DAC (this results in the biggest improvements) - rather than just plugging a cable into a sound card - you will have a huge smile on your face as you kick back and listen. DAC's are all the rage now-a-days, and DAC's that once cost as much as $5000 just 5 years ago, are now in the pricepoint of $70 to $150 - can you believe that. And finally - I have found the Edifier line of speakers to be exceptionally reliable and all the ones I own have never had problems, functioning perfectly right out of the box. Ben
@@MrBenherrmann Hey Ben! Thank you so much for taking your time to write out a very detailed reply and for your suggestions. I really appreciate that! I'd just like to point out that I'm from outside the US (Malaysia, to be specific), and from browsing the online shopping page here, my upgrade choices would be the R1700BT (about $112), the E25 Luna Eclipse ($175), and the R2000DB ($187). Unfortunately, there are no more stocks for the R1850DB that you suggested. Judging from this Digital Stereophony channel, I'd personally say the R1850DBs are more or less the same with the E25, except that in terms of clarity and 'musicality', if you will, the R1850DBs are certainly better, while the E25 has better, fuller low-ends, and as it is smaller in size, has a minimalistic feel to it and would certainly cost less desk space for me. And seeing as the price difference is not that much, I'm confused as to whether I should just get the R2000DBs instead of the E25 since they're obviously much, much better overall. As you said, choices choices. Sigh.. Anyway, (if you don't mind) since you mentioned about budget DACs, can you recommend any good entry level DACs? I might consider going the R1700BT+DAC as it'll be more cost efficient for me that way. Thanks once again, Ben! And I hope you stay safe during these unusual times. - Ariel
@@arieltakom Actually the 1850 has much better (deeper) bass extension than the e25 - by a long shot. OK now on to the DAC scenario. You can spend far less than $100 USD and get one of the following to begin with - those being: FX-Audio DAC-X6 (Chinese made) or the... SABAJ D3 (Chinese made) or the... Schiit Modi 3 (US made - California, and yes, the name is "Schiit," and they love to advertise along the lines of , "Boy, do we have some great Schiit to show you). I love their products - very dynamic and clean sounding. Another one - around $129 USD is the new Soundavo HP-DAC1. All of these were found on Amazon US, so I don't know if Amazon in your area carries them. By the way, I was originally born in Germany and we emigrated to the US in the mid 1950's. Ben (my full name is Bernd Werner Herrmann) - but people have always called me by "Ben."
Hello Bernd Herrmann can you please tell me your opinion about which is the best between Edifier R2000DB and R1850DB with the sub, whether from Edifier or another brand. Personally I mainly listen to music at home at night at low volumes but I like the presence of the bass. Are the R2000DB sufficient for this purpose? Or I have to keep the option with subwoofer: I currently have a Logitech Z 680 system working with only 2 speakers and the subwwofer and I am satisfied but I want to improve the bass that are too boomy (even at the minimum...!!!) And thanks in advance for your explanation about Edifier loudspeakers. I am from Portugal and there are no stores to hear the different proposals of this brand. There is almost no one selling this brand around here. !!!! And thanks also for the excellent comparisons to Digital Stereophony. My choice would be the S1000db but they are very expensive for my budget at the moment.
@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews man get any edifier. dont worry about bass lol you will not be able to tolarate bass. I am hating edifer for its extra bass it is not natural.
@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews oMG how much do you need. I cant even bear the bass of 2000db so i tuned the bass lower. Well the bass is boomy but punchy bass is always welcomed and more fun. Also forgot to mention I found the 2000db darker sounding . voice is not open. My ear is too sensitive. I am thinking of buying q acustics 3020i
I watched this video almost 3-4 years back, and even purchased the R1700BT, and now for some reason this is recommended to me again after such a long time. I just clicked on it for the nostalgia.
@Digital Stereophony - many thanks for all your efforts with these comparisons. Got my R1700BTs today. Man, they sound really good and helped me through this home office day (covid-19) Without your vids I would have struggled to decide which new setup I should get for my desk!!
2022 I finally bought this awesome r1700bt + T5 its mind blowing combination on music and movies the best so far for me becoz its a budget speaker but great quality sound
The difference is indeed very narrow. I prefer 1850 as it sounds more elegant and effortless. 1700 is also nice, but it sounds to me a bit coarse because its bass is wider and goes closer to medium, while on 1850 the bass is there on its own. I am listening to it in my sennheiser headphones.
Thanks for your great reviews. Really useful in helping me choose new bookshelf speakers. I went for the Edifier R1850DB in the end and they sound great. Cheers ;)
I bought the r1850db thanks to you. I must say the difference between analog jack and optical is NIGHT AND DAY on my pc (realtek ALC 892). So I suggest everyone to consider this: optical means this model has a DAC. If you don’t have one, you have to include it in the price difference to really make them the same!
This video and all of the other comparisons are fantastic. Just a word of caution to those interested... both of these speakers use a proprietary speaker cable to connect the L & R speakers. Amazon description states a 16ft/5m cable is included, though some Q&A responses say 8ft. Sadly, I need more than 16ft, which will be another $50+ purchase from Edifier online store. Probably doesn't affect 99% of people, but I was literally about to pull the trigger on the purchase for my garage until I saw that...
Came to say thank You for Your work! Just got my Edifier speakers and love them! Your channel helped a lot in choosing process. Those companies should pay You :D
Very nice and setup demo, many thanks. My feeling is that sound R1700BT is slightly crispy than R1850DB and it sound deeper in bass. All good. I think 1700 is good enough for me. Thanks.
The people saying here that the 1850 is just a sub out version of the 1700 and sound the same are wrong. You either have wet ears or your equipment isnt up to par. The 1850 clearly has a wider soundstage, and separation between instruments are clearer. The highs are also not as jarring as the as the 1700, which can sometimes lead to hollowness and boxiness in the upper regions. Also, bass on the 1850 is more mellow as its meant to go with a sub, they tuned the 1700 to be a little more prominent in the bass department. Frequency response charts would show these. The 1700 is known for its harsh treble and scooped lower mids, the 1850 somewhat rectifies this by a bit by making it sound more balanced and less V shaped. Anything scooped will nearly always give an impression of false clarity but it wont fool trained ears. The 1700 also has that cheap boxed up hollow hissy treble, the 1850 has that under control, listen at 10:40 onwards to spot this. 1850 is the way to go, even better the 1855.
@@hodongkang6511 yes, the 1855 sounds slightly different than the 1850 in terms of soundstage and instrument separation. You have to put it side by side to hear the difference. Not to mention the 1855 has BT5.0 and a way better remote control. Definitely get the 1855 if you had the choice.
@@AbsoluteFidelity i have 1700bts and 1 thing that annoying me most is 'S' sound when watching movie. too much sharp hissing sound when the person in the movies said 'S' words..is 1855 also like that?? i hope u know what i mean since im not good in english.
@@hodongkang6511 i understand you perfectly... :) yes, the 1700 has a sibilance problem, the 1855 too but not as much. Way lower on the 1855. Sibilance lies mostly in the 5khz - 10khz range, especially in the 6khz - 8khz range. What you can do is try to make the 1700 as flat as possible with the tone controls. After looking at the frequency response chart of the 1700 and what the tone controls do, -3 treble and -4 bass (you can try -2 treble and -3 bass too) will make it as flat as it will possibly go with the tone controls. That should help things out. Let me know if it works for you!
@@AbsoluteFidelity i tried that before. even try until -6 for bass and treble. it makes the speaker less bright but no effect in 's' sound at all, still the same hissing. i tries eq setting also and the speaker getting much warmer but also decrease in sound quality.. i think i just replace this with 1855(no warranty) since its cheaper than 1700bts in my country.
I just go these 1850's for nearfield desk set up, the bass sounds better than my bigger polk s20 6.5" bookshelf and seperate amplifier power. I has a more defined kick and it was fast. It shook my desk, something the polk's never did. I'm really lost. I thought bigger and more powerful would be better.
Buying my first bookshelf speakers which are the 1850db and I can't wait! I'm done buying headsets for my pc lol. Everyone in my house shall hear my music from now on.
Thank you! I have been waiting for this one! I will get the 1850db for the sub option but I still think the 1700bt is the bang for you buck out there...
@@ICCUWANSIUT how would I use a sub with the 1700? I have a Yamaha home theater sub lying around so I will buy the 1700 if they can be used... How would I do it?
The bass sounds a little bit dry (not so deep) on the R1700BT. The mids sound very close between the two, but the R1850DB sound more open. The cymbals sound more real on the R1850DB. These two are VERY close to each other.
I have just bought the R1700DB and the seperation is really good and the base is great no need for a subwoofer addition. And I can't tell the difference here. But their must be a difference, in specs. So it comes down to your budget. For me I just went with the reviews.
Thank you for your comparative tests, this allowed me to buy the right speakers for me. 300 square feet pieces, I bought the Edifier 1850DB and i am very satisfied again THANK YO U
To me the the R1700bt sound better, its more clearer and with better detail to the instruments and vocals... it also sounded wider. As for the R1850 they sound more narrow and the bass kinda tinded out the details to everything else. Vocals also sounded a bit louder... I really want the R1700BT but there's is no optical in and R1850 does. I really don't know what to do at this point.
Appreciate the review, DSAUDIO. Personally, there is a slight difference in the mids. Both sounds great, I think buyers should just choose it as a 'taste preference' thing. As a guitarist, these 2 speakers would be akin to comparing a Vox guitar amplifier (known for it's mids) , and a Fender (known for it's scooped -ids) guitar amplifier's sound. The R1850DB is the Vox , the R1700BT is the Fender . : ) I went for the R1850DB for my living room's entertainment speakers. 😁
Yester I got the R1855DB which I suppose a just R1850DB with improved remote, Bluetooth 5 and I am OK with the speakers for the most part. I used to have for short time R1600TIII ( should be a lite version of R1700BT) which for some reason I remember had a bit better highs and mids. Is it normal for these speaker to make a popping noise when you turn them on ? I remember I had similar small issue with the previous Edifiers, it's not a bit deal at all, just want to know if it's normal.
I'm not an audiophile, so excuse my bad explanation, but I feel like there's better separation between mod and low range sounds on the 1700 compared to the 1850. The 1850 just seems a little too boomy on the bass, and it drowns out the other ranges.
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These sound so close to the same I'm not sure I can distinguish any difference. The 1850 maybe slightly more airy. They both sound bright with that female singer @3:15. I believe these have a pretty substantial peak in the high range and the low mids upper bass sounds boomy / oversaturated / colored / boxy. Swan mkiii, I believe, are better than any edifiers.
The vocals are more clear and open on the 1700, bass is stronger/louder on the 1850 with slightly muddy vocals. I would buy the 1700. Thanks for an excellent comparison. Edit: New Orleans Jazz is not the best style for these speakers. But 'Deep' is!
im sure ure right about the vocals. but with the 1850 we can connect a subwoofer, connect optical cable, have better bass, and the 5.0 bluetooth, not the 4.o right?
R1700bt is sold at only $80 or even $74 if you are an online store member (all-inclusive, free-shipping) in mainland China. I feel we are still ripped off.
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hi, anyone has an opinion about logitech z533 2.1 and how these can compare with 1700bt's and the 1850db's?I know these 2 are bigger speakers so they will have more open sound, and they have tweeters too..but i wonder if they can compare.
You can add a sub to any 2.0 PC speakers through a 3,5mm splitter. I have cheap Creative Pebble 2.0 speakers now hooked up with a 8" powered subwoofer and it sounds amazing. I even ditched my Creative Katana soundbar cause the difference isn't that big. And you'll be surprised how good these cheapo speakers are for only 20 bucks lol.
i have a pair of R1850db they go down to about 70 hz -3db after that a realy steep roleoff so i would put the subwoofer crossover between 60/70 hz depending on your room.
Edifier website says 1700 has DSP and DRC. But does 1850 has Dsp and Drc?? We heard through this video recording. But in reality is the audio quality difference clearly noticible with Dsp and Drc ??
Edifier 1700 is cleaner on mid and high's ... a great comparison....would be nice to play some lunatic fringe on these or Exit Light for the rocker folks
I have both these hooked up tp my PC and go back and forth between the 2 to hear difference and the R1850db sound much better to me, the R 1700bt have high midrange sound kinda like music in a box but its only my opinion and i am no audiophile. plus the R1850s have optical input and the 1700s dont so to me its an easy choice witch ones to keep. I sent back a pair of the Klipsch R-41PM because the R1850db had a much wider sound stage and overall better sound to my ears. great job on your comparisons by the way love your channel!
1. Can we use these as Proper speakers with home theater system for 230sqft of room.? 2. Does these speakers will sounds good with additional external woofer?
I have a sub-woofer with three, 6 inch drivers. It's a Creative GigaWorks T3 SLAM. I broke the satellite speakers that come with that 2.1 set, so I bought the R1850DB to replace the satellites I dropped. Will this work?
Did you connect a subwoofer to the R1850DB or is this purely a 2.0 comparison? What subwoofer dou recommend to pair with the R1850DB? I can get the R1700 for €149,95 and the R1850DB for €169,- Is the R1850DB the far better choice if I add a subwoofer to it?
I'm on the same boat. Right now on EdifierUSA site (might not work for you) they have a valentine's day sale and with a promo code I ended up buying the 1850db's for $160 shipped! They're $200 on amazon right now. So if I decide to add a sub I'll only be in it about $260 for one hell of a 2.1 setup for my PC. That's $40 cheaper than the S350db's and I think the 1850's with a decent 10" sub are superior.
Here i am once again, got a question for you. I might be able to sell my current Microlab Solo 6C (New) for about 150 euros, the reason for selling them is their size, i've been living with them for the last 4 years or so, i love them, but they're big, too big for a computer use. My target would be the S350DB but for now i wouldn't be able to reach that price tag, therefore i have to get something cheaper. Logitech isn't on my list although their Z623 model is within my range at about 160 euros. I know i'd get a reduction in sound definition and quality, but i'd also get a smaller footprint satellites with the addition of a loud subwoofer that i might or might not enjoy (not into boomy bass). So if i want something small and powerful, logitech checks the marks for that. If i want audio quality, i'd probably have to revert to use an EQ and squeeze everything i can out from it. Would i be better off going for a R1850DB instead, and if i ever want a subwoofer, just add one to the sub out of the r1850db? In the end, getting a decent subwoofer to the r1850db might actually give a better sound quality than the s350db, or am i mistaken? Thanks!
R1855db/1850 have only sbc bt codec, Amplifier TAS 5707, Dont have subsonic filter on sub out, Sub out port - 0-100 hz, r1855db when connecting a subwoofer does not cut the signal on the woofer of the speakers themselves, 70w rms. R1700bts have sbc, aptx, aptx hd codec (aptx hd working 24 bit), Have sub sonic filter, Sub out port up to 2 khz. Amplifier TAS5805, 66w rms, 1700bts, when connecting a subwoofer, slightly unloads the woofers of the speakers themselves, thereby creating a more even frequency response and the bass controls on the speaker affect the subwoofer output port.
I bought the Fluance Ai40s and I'm experiencing a hissing/humming noise coming from them at all times so I think I'm just going to replace them. Would either of these be a good competitor? Could anyone give any input? :)
Go for slightly bigger R2000DB for similar to Fluance's woofer setup (both have 5 inch woofers, where R1700BT have 4inch woofers)). R1700BT, R1800DB and R2000DB all have no issueas with hissing or humming
I wonder if those new ones are only different in used finish. Plano black is that expensive? :)
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I was trying to decide between these 2 and as far as I see there is no big difference in sound quality but R1850 DB has a sub out and that's a big deal. Also there is a big price difference somehow (at least in my country). I really don't know if that extra price will worth it. I mean R1850DB is almost twice the price of R1700 BT's. Think about it.
Hi, If I get the r1700BT is there any way of connecting them to my AMP? Because right now I have a JVC VN-300 AMP (with an EQ) and two pretty good and medium-big sized speakers. It sounds very good to me and I use it for gaming and listening to music. Btw the AMP has a speaker wire output. Or do you know a different set of speakers (passive) that I can hook up to my AMP. I want to be able to put them on my desk, I have a black/white/RGB themed setup. Or could I take an output from the active speakers (r1700BT for example) and connect that to my AMP?. Do you think the r1700BT sounds good? I know, I have a lot of questions but all I want is some speakers I can put on my desk that sound very good (my default speakers have a great bass already) but I can not find the perfect speakers. Maybe some speakers that will compliment my current rig? But if I can connect the r1700BT to my AMP it would be great because then I always have the option to hook them up to my TV (at the other side of my bedroom). Thanks
I think that R1700BT sounds very good when we consider the price. Regarding connection with Your JVC amp, I am afraid there is no way to connect it with R1700BT, as Edifier is an active system that accepts only low level signal (I may be wrong about it though). You actually can connect R1700BT to Your TV without external amp (it has amps built in). There is also no way to connect Your amp to R1700BT without tearing the speakers apart. I do not deal with passive speakers so I will not give You any revcommendations in this area.
The 1850 is the only one that gives me the option to connect my Velodyne DPS-10 that's just collecting dust right now, so that is probably the way to go. Or I might just keep using the Sony 2.1 sound bar that I have right now it does sound quite good, but the bass of course is not Velodyne levels of good....ahh decisions...
Спасибо хороший обзор, я на стороне Edifier R1700BT, более музыкальнее. База немного шире вEdifier R1850DB, но Edifier R1700BT показались более правильнее по звуку.
Thank you, so much, for the brief explanation, and various samplings you have provided. I listened to your comparisons between the R1700, R1800, R1280, R2000, Eris E4.5, E3.5 and the Creative T40. So, a lot of sampling. After going through all of them, I ended up choosing the R1700, their new model with Bluetooth 5.0. Listening to your videos over a soundbar, doesn't do them justice. They sound awesome in comparison, and much richer than the soundbar I was using for my computer speaker under the monitor. Thank you very much for helping me decide on these. They are a fantastic upgrade, and I thought their foot print would be bigger, they are actually quite nice, and smaller than I was expecting!
@@eddiehoang7066 There shouldn't be a difference in sound quality. But the difference comes in transmission range. 5.0 has double the transmission range and double the bandwidth to transmit. So overall a better connection.
Have you use rca or coax or spdif ? Little info for one who need it. DAC in r1850 onlye go to 48khz. I got r1850 to and super to bad DAC onlye go 48khz when set up with my asus strix raid DLX sound card. So i use RCA 192khz 24bit and then no problem
Hello! :)) So I have creative xi fi HD (usb external soundblaster) , is it better to get 1850 and connect with optical to creative xi fi or get 1750 and connect RCA to creative xi fi, would there be any difference for me? Thank you!
As You probably can hear the difference between these two is very narrow. I would say it is as narrow as between two pairs of the same model, which is negliable to say the least. Just choose the ones which are cheaper or the ones which have the features you need ;) Cheers!
Hi I am into purchase a 2.1 speaker system. I shortlisted Klipsch Promedia 2.1BT, Edifier S350DB. But after seeing this video I am again confused! I know these are 2.0 speakers but I notieced that the Edfier 1850DB has this sub woofer out option so if I add a nice Yamaha NS-SW100(10 inch 100 watt) or Yamaha NS-SW050 to it what will be the result. is it outperform the Klipsch Promedia 2.1BT and Edifier S350DB. Please help me out from this issue. by the way I am from India and in my area I cant find any help for this issue.My main preference is the sound!.I need well pronounced "treble" and sharp punch of "low".Hope you will understand my issues. thanks
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I'm sorry but I am not familiar with either S350DB nor Promedia speakers
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Manoj Madhavan I'd say you're better off getting these (Edifier 1850db) and adding a sub if you have the money, but if you're on a tight budget get the pro media's.
1700BTS and 1855 bought and placed next to each other play completely differently! the main difference is the vocals, here the difference is surprisingly the largest. The human voice in 1700bts is clearer and more pleasant. In 1855, the human sound is "flattened", it sounds more artificial, but still nice and some people may like this format more. The bass in the 1700bts is 15% smaller and more compact and dynamic than in the 1855. After connecting the Klipsch subwoofer, I noticed that the 1700bts sends a slightly stronger signal to the external woofer. Bass control is similar. The 1000hz synthetic test shows noise in the 1855 that was not experienced in the 1700bts, regardless of the use of TOSLINK or RCA. I spent a lot of time choosing which speakers would go to the TV and which ones I would leave on the desk. I decided that the 1700bts would be a nicer set, while the 1855 would go to the living room next to the TV. I would like to add that the tests were carried out on the ASUS XONAR DGX card without additional equalizer improvements. I hope this will help someone choose :)
As a matter of background information, I'm currently using the R1280DB's, the R1700BT's, the R1850DB's, the R2000DB's, and the S350DB's (2.1 system). In each case, the sound quality go's up a notch or two as you climb the model ladder. Starting off with the R1280'DB's, you'll find that they are nice (especially for the money), but they are a bit boxy sounding on some material. When you then jump to the 1700BT speakers, the sound becomes a bit more open (and yes, just a tad brighter if you want to use that term - but still nicely balanced). I've got several DAC's (that I switch back and forth via a switcher) and you should hear the unbelievable high-end sounds coming out of the R1700BT's when compared with a DAC like the iFi ZenDAC - just remarkable and breath-taking. - and same scenario with the R1850DB's, but even more so.
Now if you jump up to the RR1850DB's, you will begin to really notice a difference as the speakers are even more dynamic, have more bass and are even more open - more so than "next step up" R2000DB's above them. The Edifier line of speakers are surprisingly superb for the money and if you are careful with your other gear and accessories (such as using upgraded RCA cables, a great DAC, upgraded USB cables to connect to a PC for instance, etc.), the Edifiers then become audiophile quality transducers to be sure.
The only issue I have with the majority of Edifier speakers is that they use these old fashioned PC type of cables to connect the speakers and they are almost impossible to find anywhere if you desire shorter lengths (or upgraded audiophile quality versions). And the lengths of these cables are ridiculous - I believe Edifier provides you with 15-16 foot lengths. Since many of us these Edifier speakers are often used in a near-field environment by our desktop PC's (or laptops), having that long of a cumbersome PC style of speaker cable is ridiculous. Both the R1700BT's and the R1850DB's use the same type of 4-pin cable. I actually found a vendor on eBay that sells 53" versions of these cables - which comes to around 4.5 feet, which is ideal for a PC setup. Here is the direct link to that cable. I've already ordered 3 sets of these cables - they are quality using belden cable. The link is (just cut in paste if the link doesn't allow you to click on it):
www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-MOLEX-4-Pin-53-High-Quality-Speaker-Cable-for-Edifier-R1700BT-R1850DB/333630116398?epid=1953258580&hash=item4dade7922e:g:JlUAAOSwB4Je7QyY
Only the 1280DB's allow for conventional speaker wire to be used. and I use a better grade 14 gauge variety. On all of the others they use either 4-pin or 5-pin old fashioned DIN cables - which are almost impossible to find anywhere. However, I've managed to crack the code and I've had Blue Jeans Cables map out these cables and they made me some nice audiophile versions of these cables (5-pin) for the R2000DB and the R350's and they sound wonderful.
Have a great day!
Ben Herrmann
Fuquay Varina, NC
Hey there! Thanks so much for your detailed reply. Just wanted to know what are your thoughts on the Edifier E25HD Luna Eclipse compared to the R1700BT and the R2000DB? When I was studying abroad a few years back I managed to pick up the R1280DBs for cheap and they served me well, but I had to resell them once I moved back. Now, I'm facing a dilemma on which speakers to upgrade to as I know for a fact that R1700BTs are much better than my previous R1280DB, and the pricing right now is just right. But I'm wondering if I should fork out a bit extra for the Luna Eclipse E25HD or the R2000DB (both priced almost the same, but the R1700BT are much cheaper than these)?
@@arieltakom Great hearing from you! OK - where to begin:
1. As I mentioned, with each upgrade, you begin to notice improvements in the sound chain - it's a given - but there are a few Edifiers that null and void that assumption. One of them is the diminutive e10 that looks like something from outer space. That small speaker has imaging capabilities that shock you. Yes, it has a smallish 3" woofer, along with a passive radiator, but the balance is really nice.
2. That brings me to the e25HD - a speaker that I've been eyeing also. From what I've seen and heard, it is a superb sounding speaker also - but I would use it in situations/scenarios where space is of a premium. In each instance - from the R1280's all the way up the chain (remember, the e10 and e25 is part of the computer line), the bass is superior due to larger volumes in the enclosures and larger woofers.
3. Two speakers I highly recommend is both the R1700BT and R1850DB - and they are sized almost the same. If you are considering between these two, I'd opt for the R1850DB because I noticed an improvement in the overall audio - subtle, but noticeable to trained ears.
4. The R2000DB's begin to put you in a bigger league with a larger 5" woofer, giving you better bass capabilities, and it has a somewhat larger and heavier cabinet. As I mentioned, I have all of these speakers - but not the e25 - because at this point, I don't need the e25.
So my suggestion would be:
If you are just thinking a incremental upgrade due to price factors, get the R1700BT. If you can afford $25 - $50 more, strongly consider the R1850's. And if you can go a bit higher, the R2000DB's will give you quite a bit more.
Decisions, decisions, decisions - don't ya hate that!!!! In all cases though, whatever Edifier speaker you settle on, rest assured that if you do everything right, meaning upgrading the connecting cables (RCA's), using a DAC (this results in the biggest improvements) - rather than just plugging a cable into a sound card - you will have a huge smile on your face as you kick back and listen. DAC's are all the rage now-a-days, and DAC's that once cost as much as $5000 just 5 years ago, are now in the pricepoint of $70 to $150 - can you believe that.
And finally - I have found the Edifier line of speakers to be exceptionally reliable and all the ones I own have never had problems, functioning perfectly right out of the box.
Ben
@@MrBenherrmann Hey Ben! Thank you so much for taking your time to write out a very detailed reply and for your suggestions. I really appreciate that!
I'd just like to point out that I'm from outside the US (Malaysia, to be specific), and from browsing the online shopping page here, my upgrade choices would be the R1700BT (about $112), the E25 Luna Eclipse ($175), and the R2000DB ($187). Unfortunately, there are no more stocks for the R1850DB that you suggested.
Judging from this Digital Stereophony channel, I'd personally say the R1850DBs are more or less the same with the E25, except that in terms of clarity and 'musicality', if you will, the R1850DBs are certainly better, while the E25 has better, fuller low-ends, and as it is smaller in size, has a minimalistic feel to it and would certainly cost less desk space for me.
And seeing as the price difference is not that much, I'm confused as to whether I should just get the R2000DBs instead of the E25 since they're obviously much, much better overall. As you said, choices choices. Sigh..
Anyway, (if you don't mind) since you mentioned about budget DACs, can you recommend any good entry level DACs? I might consider going the R1700BT+DAC as it'll be more cost efficient for me that way.
Thanks once again, Ben! And I hope you stay safe during these unusual times.
- Ariel
@@arieltakom Actually the 1850 has much better (deeper) bass extension than the e25 - by a long shot. OK now on to the DAC scenario. You can spend far less than $100 USD and get one of the following to begin with - those being:
FX-Audio DAC-X6 (Chinese made)
or the...
SABAJ D3 (Chinese made)
or the...
Schiit Modi 3 (US made - California, and yes, the name is "Schiit," and they love to advertise along the lines of , "Boy, do we have some great Schiit to show you). I love their products - very dynamic and clean sounding.
Another one - around $129 USD is the new Soundavo HP-DAC1.
All of these were found on Amazon US, so I don't know if Amazon in your area carries them.
By the way, I was originally born in Germany and we emigrated to the US in the mid 1950's.
Ben (my full name is Bernd Werner Herrmann) - but people have always called me by "Ben."
Hello Bernd Herrmann can you please tell me your opinion about which is the best between Edifier R2000DB and R1850DB with the sub, whether from Edifier or another brand.
Personally I mainly listen to music at home at night at low volumes but I like the presence of the bass.
Are the R2000DB sufficient for this purpose?
Or I have to keep the option with subwoofer:
I currently have a Logitech Z 680 system working with only 2 speakers and the subwwofer and I am satisfied but I want to improve the bass that are too boomy (even at the minimum...!!!)
And thanks in advance for your explanation about Edifier loudspeakers.
I am from Portugal and there are no stores to hear the different proposals of this brand.
There is almost no one selling this brand around here. !!!!
And thanks also for the excellent comparisons to
Digital Stereophony.
My choice would be the S1000db but they are very expensive for my budget at the moment.
Enjoying my r1850dbs. I've never actually had "good" speakers before now. I'm loving them.
@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews man get any edifier. dont worry about bass lol you will not be able to tolarate bass. I am hating edifer for its extra bass it is not natural.
@The dhgate 1:1 Replica reviews oMG how much do you need. I cant even bear the bass of 2000db so i tuned the bass lower. Well the bass is boomy but punchy bass is always welcomed and more fun. Also forgot to mention I found the 2000db darker sounding . voice is not open. My ear is too sensitive. I am thinking of buying q acustics 3020i
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same here these model is the best yet i had ever had
Got my r1850db's yesterday. Sound is mind blowing! This video helped alot thanks very much :))
I watched this video almost 3-4 years back, and even purchased the R1700BT, and now for some reason this is recommended to me again after such a long time. I just clicked on it for the nostalgia.
Thanks, now im 100% about which one should I buy, R1700 for sure!
Quality review! - I just ordered the Edifier R1700BT. Cant wait to get them for my PC setup.
The 1700 has a slightly more open or airy sound; the 1850 has some tuning that doesn’t make it stand out any better than the first.
@Digital Stereophony - many thanks for all your efforts with these comparisons. Got my R1700BTs today. Man, they sound really good and helped me through this home office day (covid-19) Without your vids I would have struggled to decide which new setup I should get for my desk!!
A clear difference is noticed at 9:20 track Deep. 1700 is giving guitar more pronounced than 1850
2022 I finally bought this awesome r1700bt + T5 its mind blowing combination on music and movies the best so far for me becoz its a budget speaker but great quality sound
Hi, how did you connect t5 to r1700bt?
The difference is indeed very narrow. I prefer 1850 as it sounds more elegant and effortless. 1700 is also nice, but it sounds to me a bit coarse because its bass is wider and goes closer to medium, while on 1850 the bass is there on its own. I am listening to it in my sennheiser headphones.
Was the R1850DB connected via RCA? If so, would the optical connection make a bigger difference?
Any ideas? :(
Thanks for your great reviews. Really useful in helping me choose new bookshelf speakers. I went for the Edifier R1850DB in the end and they sound great. Cheers ;)
I bought the r1850db thanks to you. I must say the difference between analog jack and optical is NIGHT AND DAY on my pc (realtek ALC 892).
So I suggest everyone to consider this: optical means this model has a DAC. If you don’t have one, you have to include it in the price difference to really make them the same!
which sound better, digital or analog? I bought the R1850DB and I will plug them to the optical output of my TV
plug them both. You will hear the difference!
Fizniperal my TV doesn't have RCA or headphone output, only Bluetooth and optical output
quite strange! but I can assure you that opt-in is the best after hdmi for audio
Digital is better if you don't have a good DAC
I really love this channel, straight to the point. Greetings from Germany
This video and all of the other comparisons are fantastic. Just a word of caution to those interested... both of these speakers use a proprietary speaker cable to connect the L & R speakers. Amazon description states a 16ft/5m cable is included, though some Q&A responses say 8ft. Sadly, I need more than 16ft, which will be another $50+ purchase from Edifier online store.
Probably doesn't affect 99% of people, but I was literally about to pull the trigger on the purchase for my garage until I saw that...
Thanks for this video! Its realy helps to choose new speakers. r1850db has more surrounded sound
Came to say thank You for Your work! Just got my Edifier speakers and love them! Your channel helped a lot in choosing process. Those companies should pay You :D
Very nice and setup demo, many thanks. My feeling is that sound R1700BT is slightly crispy than R1850DB and it sound deeper in bass. All good. I think 1700 is good enough for me. Thanks.
The people saying here that the 1850 is just a sub out version of the 1700 and sound the same are wrong. You either have wet ears or your equipment isnt up to par. The 1850 clearly has a wider soundstage, and separation between instruments are clearer. The highs are also not as jarring as the as the 1700, which can sometimes lead to hollowness and boxiness in the upper regions. Also, bass on the 1850 is more mellow as its meant to go with a sub, they tuned the 1700 to be a little more prominent in the bass department. Frequency response charts would show these. The 1700 is known for its harsh treble and scooped lower mids, the 1850 somewhat rectifies this by a bit by making it sound more balanced and less V shaped. Anything scooped will nearly always give an impression of false clarity but it wont fool trained ears. The 1700 also has that cheap boxed up hollow hissy treble, the 1850 has that under control, listen at 10:40 onwards to spot this. 1850 is the way to go, even better the 1855.
why u said 1855 better than 1850? are they sound difference?
@@hodongkang6511 yes, the 1855 sounds slightly different than the 1850 in terms of soundstage and instrument separation. You have to put it side by side to hear the difference. Not to mention the 1855 has BT5.0 and a way better remote control. Definitely get the 1855 if you had the choice.
@@AbsoluteFidelity i have 1700bts and 1 thing that annoying me most is 'S' sound when watching movie. too much sharp hissing sound when the person in the movies said 'S' words..is 1855 also like that?? i hope u know what i mean since im not good in english.
@@hodongkang6511 i understand you perfectly... :) yes, the 1700 has a sibilance problem, the 1855 too but not as much. Way lower on the 1855. Sibilance lies mostly in the 5khz - 10khz range, especially in the 6khz - 8khz range.
What you can do is try to make the 1700 as flat as possible with the tone controls. After looking at the frequency response chart of the 1700 and what the tone controls do, -3 treble and -4 bass (you can try -2 treble and -3 bass too) will make it as flat as it will possibly go with the tone controls. That should help things out. Let me know if it works for you!
@@AbsoluteFidelity i tried that before. even try until -6 for bass and treble. it makes the speaker less bright but no effect in 's' sound at all, still the same hissing. i tries eq setting also and the speaker getting much warmer but also decrease in sound quality.. i think i just replace this with 1855(no warranty) since its cheaper than 1700bts in my country.
I just go these 1850's for nearfield desk set up, the bass sounds better than my bigger polk s20 6.5" bookshelf and seperate amplifier power. I has a more defined kick and it was fast. It shook my desk, something the polk's never did. I'm really lost. I thought bigger and more powerful would be better.
Buying my first bookshelf speakers which are the 1850db and I can't wait! I'm done buying headsets for my pc lol. Everyone in my house shall hear my music from now on.
Prog Rock though the line in connection from a record turntable sounds magnificent on the R1700BT's!
You would mainly get the 1850DB as opposed to the 1700 because the 1850 has a subwoofer input
So does 1700 too please check it.
Thank you! I have been waiting for this one! I will get the 1850db for the sub option but I still think the 1700bt is the bang for you buck out there...
David O could have just done a splitter from the source imo.
@@ICCUWANSIUT how would I use a sub with the 1700? I have a Yamaha home theater sub lying around so I will buy the 1700 if they can be used... How would I do it?
The bass sounds a little bit dry (not so deep) on the R1700BT. The mids sound very close between the two, but the R1850DB sound more open.
The cymbals sound more real on the R1850DB. These two are VERY close to each other.
Die 1700 sind zu aufdringlich! Die R1855DB klingen entspannt, besser sortiert und Formen die Bühne ohne lästig aufdringlich zu wirken.
I watched this video for years ago but the 1850s and never looked back they’ve served me well even bought a new controller for them
Edifier 1700Bt sounds a little boxy to me.....on the other hand 1850Db sounds more natural. So for studio monitor purposes go for the 1850DB
i love your channel you really helped in me deciding what monitor speakers to get!!!! THANKYOU :)
I have just bought the R1700DB and the seperation is really good and the base is great no need for a subwoofer addition. And I can't tell the difference here. But their must be a difference, in specs. So it comes down to your budget. For me I just went with the reviews.
Thank you for your comparative tests, this allowed me to buy the right speakers for me. 300 square feet pieces, I bought the Edifier 1850DB and i am very satisfied again THANK YO
U
One of these or klipsch r-15pm? I have a klipsch sw-350 I may use with them
To me the the R1700bt sound better, its more clearer and with better detail to the instruments and vocals... it also sounded wider. As for the R1850 they sound more narrow and the bass kinda tinded out the details to everything else. Vocals also sounded a bit louder... I really want the R1700BT but there's is no optical in and R1850 does. I really don't know what to do at this point.
I concur. *Smokes his pipe listening to **5:50*
Appreciate the review, DSAUDIO. Personally, there is a slight difference in the mids. Both sounds great, I think buyers should just choose it as a 'taste preference' thing.
As a guitarist, these 2 speakers would be akin to comparing a Vox guitar amplifier (known for it's mids) , and a Fender (known for it's scooped -ids) guitar amplifier's sound.
The R1850DB is the Vox , the R1700BT is the Fender . : )
I went for the R1850DB for my living room's entertainment speakers. 😁
Depending on the music, the 1850 sounds Fuller/richer. Listening on my Sph9500.
I can't spot the difference lol. 1850 might be a little bit warmer and wider sound stage.
Yester I got the R1855DB which I suppose a just R1850DB with improved remote, Bluetooth 5 and I am OK with the speakers for the most part. I used to have for short time R1600TIII ( should be a lite version of R1700BT) which for some reason I remember had a bit better highs and mids. Is it normal for these speaker to make a popping noise when you turn them on ? I remember I had similar small issue with the previous Edifiers, it's not a bit deal at all, just want to know if it's normal.
I'm not an audiophile, so excuse my bad explanation, but I feel like there's better separation between mod and low range sounds on the 1700 compared to the 1850. The 1850 just seems a little too boomy on the bass, and it drowns out the other ranges.
The 1700 and 1850 are the same speakers with different features
@@lol-nl9vg and yet they sound differently somehow
I can't find "long drive" song, can someone get the link for this song? Thanks
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When switching from example A to example B, change the color of the speaker text font to signal a definite shift in moving from example A to example B. This would help focus the attention of the listener.
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These sound so close to the same I'm not sure I can distinguish any difference. The 1850 maybe slightly more airy. They both sound bright with that female singer @3:15. I believe these have a pretty substantial peak in the high range and the low mids upper bass sounds boomy / oversaturated / colored / boxy. Swan mkiii, I believe, are better than any edifiers.
The vocals are more clear and open on the 1700, bass is stronger/louder on the 1850 with slightly muddy vocals. I would buy the 1700. Thanks for an excellent comparison. Edit: New Orleans Jazz is not the best style for these speakers. But 'Deep' is!
im sure ure right about the vocals. but with the 1850 we can connect a subwoofer, connect optical cable, have better bass, and the 5.0 bluetooth, not the 4.o right?
R1700bt is sold at only $80 or even $74 if you are an online store member (all-inclusive, free-shipping) in mainland China. I feel we are still ripped off.
Its interesting when I listen to the test of R1700BT on my pair of R1700BT, it sounds exactly the same.
In my opinion, richer bass for 1850db
1700 are more musical then 1850, voices are clearer, middle/bass tones more balanced, it would have been perfect adding a sub out to 1700!
Well, Edifier has now released "R1700BTs" which come with a sub out.
@@c0ncaf where link plz can't find it
@@vforvendetta937 www.edifier.com/us/en/speakers/r1700bts-bluetooth-bookshelf-speakers
I think the biggest different between the 2 is the connections, 1850 has more, but also cost more:))
There is a difference that is worth it indeed! I'm going for the R1850DB. Thanks!
Does anyone have the name of the artist for the song that starts at 6:17? Searching youtube for "Dream a dream" returns 100 other songs...
Expand the description under the movie "Show more" This way you will find a list of songs played in this movie. You will find more information in the description of the song you are interested in.
I like the bolder mids of the R1850DB.
7:53. 8:04
How would these fare when coupled with a Sound Blaster X AE-5 (ESS SABRE32 Ultra) DAC?
hi, anyone has an opinion about logitech z533 2.1 and how these can compare with 1700bt's and the 1850db's?I know these 2 are bigger speakers so they will have more open sound, and they have tweeters too..but i wonder if they can compare.
They're almost the same.. The diffirence is only in a few things, that don't affect the sound in any way.
Major difference is 1850 has more input probabilities
The Sound stage is similar with both models. I like that Optical output thou.
Sound of both speakers is very similar. I think r1850db is a better option to someoe can add a subwoofer, otherwise, i think r1700bt has better price.
You can add a sub to any 2.0 PC speakers through a 3,5mm splitter. I have cheap Creative Pebble 2.0 speakers now hooked up with a 8" powered subwoofer and it sounds amazing. I even ditched my Creative Katana soundbar cause the difference isn't that big. And you'll be surprised how good these cheapo speakers are for only 20 bucks lol.
In Europe, R1700BT is more expensive than R1850DB by a 20 eur.
@@MindaugasSnegirevas how did you do it? Could you send a link of the product? Thanks
depend by the store where you purchase it
Would you recommend the Rockville 5w v2
who did the Dream A Dream song, I can't find it on Shazam!
i have a pair of R1850db they go down to about 70 hz -3db after that a realy steep roleoff so i would put the subwoofer crossover between 60/70 hz depending on your room.
so which ones are better?? Both on my speakers sounds the same :D
What would you recommend for a record player ?
Hi. Does anyone know what is the difference between these R1850DB and the new R1855DB?
The 55 have a new remote.
Edifier website says 1700 has DSP and DRC. But does 1850 has Dsp and Drc??
We heard through this video recording. But in reality is the audio quality difference clearly noticible with Dsp and Drc ??
Edifier 1700 is cleaner on mid and high's ... a great comparison....would be nice to play some lunatic fringe on these or Exit Light for the rocker folks
I have both these hooked up tp my PC and go back and forth between the 2 to hear difference and the R1850db sound much better to me, the R 1700bt have high midrange sound kinda like music in a box but its only my opinion and i am no audiophile. plus the R1850s have optical input and the 1700s dont so to me its an easy choice witch ones to keep. I sent back a pair of the Klipsch R-41PM because the R1850db had a much wider sound stage and overall better sound to my ears. great job on your comparisons by the way love your channel!
Thank for all the video. I have watch several. Have decided on 1700BT
1. Can we use these as Proper speakers with home theater system for 230sqft of room.?
2. Does these speakers will sounds good with additional external woofer?
Do you recommend the 1850 as a home studio monitor? Tks.
I have a sub-woofer with three, 6 inch drivers. It's a Creative GigaWorks T3 SLAM. I broke the satellite speakers that come with that 2.1 set, so I bought the R1850DB to replace the satellites I dropped. Will this work?
Did you connect a subwoofer to the R1850DB or is this purely a 2.0 comparison?
What subwoofer dou recommend to pair with the R1850DB?
I can get the R1700 for €149,95 and the R1850DB for €169,-
Is the R1850DB the far better choice if I add a subwoofer to it?
I'm on the same boat. Right now on EdifierUSA site (might not work for you) they have a valentine's day sale and with a promo code I ended up buying the 1850db's for $160 shipped! They're $200 on amazon right now. So if I decide to add a sub I'll only be in it about $260 for one hell of a 2.1 setup for my PC. That's $40 cheaper than the S350db's and I think the 1850's with a decent 10" sub are superior.
This vs presonus e4.5 or better? Woukd presonus mop the floor with the edifiers?
1850 DB's win you have to fork out extra money for the 1700 BT's to work on a TV since no optical cable support.
Here i am once again, got a question for you. I might be able to sell my current Microlab Solo 6C (New) for about 150 euros, the reason for selling them is their size, i've been living with them for the last 4 years or so, i love them, but they're big, too big for a computer use. My target would be the S350DB but for now i wouldn't be able to reach that price tag, therefore i have to get something cheaper. Logitech isn't on my list although their Z623 model is within my range at about 160 euros. I know i'd get a reduction in sound definition and quality, but i'd also get a smaller footprint satellites with the addition of a loud subwoofer that i might or might not enjoy (not into boomy bass). So if i want something small and powerful, logitech checks the marks for that. If i want audio quality, i'd probably have to revert to use an EQ and squeeze everything i can out from it.
Would i be better off going for a R1850DB instead, and if i ever want a subwoofer, just add one to the sub out of the r1850db? In the end, getting a decent subwoofer to the r1850db might actually give a better sound quality than the s350db, or am i mistaken? Thanks!
R1855db/1850 have only sbc bt codec, Amplifier TAS 5707, Dont have subsonic filter on sub out, Sub out port - 0-100 hz, r1855db when connecting a subwoofer does not cut the signal on the woofer of the speakers themselves, 70w rms. R1700bts have sbc, aptx, aptx hd codec (aptx hd working 24 bit), Have sub sonic filter, Sub out port up to 2 khz. Amplifier TAS5805, 66w rms, 1700bts, when connecting a subwoofer, slightly unloads the woofers of the speakers themselves, thereby creating a more even frequency response and the bass controls on the speaker affect the subwoofer output port.
if price same, which one to choose ?
I bought the Fluance Ai40s and I'm experiencing a hissing/humming noise coming from them at all times so I think I'm just going to replace them. Would either of these be a good competitor? Could anyone give any input? :)
Go for slightly bigger R2000DB for similar to Fluance's woofer setup (both have 5 inch woofers, where R1700BT have 4inch woofers)). R1700BT, R1800DB and R2000DB all have no issueas with hissing or humming
Great guide, tnx to you i buyed R1850BT and must say the are superb :D tnx much
I wonder if those new ones are only different in used finish. Plano black is that expensive? :)
I was trying to decide between these 2 and as far as I see there is no big difference in sound quality but R1850 DB has a sub out and that's a big deal. Also there is a big price difference somehow (at least in my country). I really don't know if that extra price will worth it. I mean R1850DB is almost twice the price of R1700 BT's. Think about it.
@Digital Stereophony great job but I couldn't hear much difference on my NEW Transparent Zero .. ;-(
Hi, If I get the r1700BT is there any way of connecting them to my AMP? Because right now I have a JVC VN-300 AMP (with an EQ) and two pretty good and medium-big sized speakers. It sounds very good to me and I use it for gaming and listening to music. Btw the AMP has a speaker wire output. Or do you know a different set of speakers (passive) that I can hook up to my AMP. I want to be able to put them on my desk, I have a black/white/RGB themed setup. Or could I take an output from the active speakers (r1700BT for example) and connect that to my AMP?. Do you think the r1700BT sounds good?
I know, I have a lot of questions but all I want is some speakers I can put on my desk that sound very good (my default speakers have a great bass already) but I can not find the perfect speakers. Maybe some speakers that will compliment my current rig? But if I can connect the r1700BT to my AMP it would be great because then I always have the option to hook them up to my TV (at the other side of my bedroom).
Thanks
I think that R1700BT sounds very good when we consider the price. Regarding connection with Your JVC amp, I am afraid there is no way to connect it with R1700BT, as Edifier is an active system that accepts only low level signal (I may be wrong about it though). You actually can connect R1700BT to Your TV without external amp (it has amps built in). There is also no way to connect Your amp to R1700BT without tearing the speakers apart. I do not deal with passive speakers so I will not give You any revcommendations in this area.
Which cable type use for connecting at sub out port of R1850DB to subwoofer active speaker, is it Aux 3.5 mm to RCA?
Is there is any differences in sound quality while using opt input vs normal rca connection?
The 1850 is the only one that gives me the option to connect my Velodyne DPS-10 that's just collecting dust right now, so that is probably the way to go. Or I might just keep using the Sony 2.1 sound bar that I have right now it does sound quite good, but the bass of course is not Velodyne levels of good....ahh decisions...
I was wondering if I could connect a sub to the r1850db's with rca to audio jack cable..can anyone help me;
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I could not hear much difference. The thing I can picture is that r17 got more mids and highs. The black speakers did not sound better somehow
They do sound almost the same compared side by side
It seems R1850DB reproduce wider frecuencies, or at least remark frecuencies the R1700BT does not.
the remote on the r1850db feels light and cheap but you can point it any direction and the speaker gets the signal
The ability to attach T5 sub to 1850DB makes the difference.
Pretty sure they're the same speaker.
The 1850 just has optical and a sub out added.
1850 has a bit more high end and the 1700 has a bit more mid range, i can tell when they change when i close my eyes so no they're not identical
Спасибо хороший обзор, я на стороне Edifier R1700BT, более музыкальнее. База немного шире вEdifier R1850DB, но Edifier R1700BT показались более правильнее по звуку.
I have 1855db.They are wonderful!
Скажите в r1700BT есть выход на сабвуфер, как в 1850db ???
Thank you, so much, for the brief explanation, and various samplings you have provided. I listened to your comparisons between the R1700, R1800, R1280, R2000, Eris E4.5, E3.5 and the Creative T40. So, a lot of sampling. After going through all of them, I ended up choosing the R1700, their new model with Bluetooth 5.0. Listening to your videos over a soundbar, doesn't do them justice. They sound awesome in comparison, and much richer than the soundbar I was using for my computer speaker under the monitor. Thank you very much for helping me decide on these. They are a fantastic upgrade, and I thought their foot print would be bigger, they are actually quite nice, and smaller than I was expecting!
Is there a difference in sound quality going with Bluetooth 5.0? I just ordered a renewed one on Amazon that isn't the 5.0
@@eddiehoang7066 There shouldn't be a difference in sound quality. But the difference comes in transmission range. 5.0 has double the transmission range and double the bandwidth to transmit. So overall a better connection.
@@nathanielgeorge1398 awesome! I'm going to be using them mainly as a PC speaker so I should be good. Cheers to the both of us
Have you use rca or coax or spdif ?
Little info for one who need it. DAC in r1850 onlye go to 48khz. I got r1850 to and super to bad DAC onlye go 48khz when set up with my asus strix raid DLX sound card. So i use RCA 192khz 24bit and then no problem
Both RCA
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Hello! :)) So I have creative xi fi HD (usb external soundblaster) , is it better to get 1850 and connect with optical to creative xi fi or get 1750 and connect RCA to creative xi fi, would there be any difference for me? Thank you!
Per una stanza di 12 mq ,va bene questo o il 2750
that is good but eddifier needs to create another one bigger , a bigger speakers line
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